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Version 5 of The CB&Q in Wyoming

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, March 29, 2021 9:13 PM

Glad I could be of service, DaveAngry

Yes, I did tint the plaster, using tempera paint pigments. I did that before and it worked fine. I didn't try spreading the plaster on latex paint, though. 

Yeah, I'll start a separate thread.

Scott, wetting the paint is something I was thinking might help. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll do that next time for sure.

On a happier note, the reballasting of Casper yard seems to be going well. I've applied new ballast in the section I honked-up way back when, and it's looking much better. It's not glued down yet, but right now it's looking pretty okay, I think. Tomorrow I'll glue it down, and then we'll know for sure.

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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:16 AM

I just posted my latest update video:

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Posted by "JaBear" on Monday, April 5, 2021 4:14 PM
Gidday Mark, thanks for the latest update. As I’ve said before, Her-in-doors and I both joy your presentation style, but while it would not be Fun for you to report on your trials and tribulations, I appreciate your honesty, and also hope that I’m learning and will not repeat the mistakes. (Possibly highly unlikely!!Sigh)
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, April 5, 2021 10:16 PM

I'm with Bear, Mark. I appreciate your openness. I will face the same issue about how to add a bit of texture to pink foam so I'm certainly glad to learn what works and what doesn't work.

Dave

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, April 6, 2021 6:40 AM

I watched the entire video, paying close attention to the failed road aspect of the project.

It seems to me that plaster of paris is not the answer. If Hydrocal were available, I would use that. Otherwise, I would go with pre-mixed joint compound.

If adherence to the smooth pink foam doesn't work, and if roughing up the pink foam doesn't work, I wonder if a layer of screening nailed over the pink foam would provide better adherence when the plaster is applied. The screening would act like rebar when pouring concrete. Just a thought.

Rich

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Posted by Pruitt on Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:31 PM

Thanks for the kind words, Bear and Dave (I hope I don't have too many "opportunities" to show you what doesn't work!).

Rich, I'm thinking you meant the failed plaster aspect. Otherwise, I guess I know what you think of the road!

Anyway, about that plaster faux pas...

11 April 2021

I stripped the entire area back down to bare styrofoam (I mentioned that in my "Plaster Disaster" thread), and started over.

I roughed up the surface of all the styrofoam, then used paper drywall tape to cover the gaps between subroadbed and styrofoam.Then I applied plaster again over most of the area. It worked great! It's well stuck down to everything (except the masking tape over the track, I hope!).

I sanded it lightly to remove sharp little peaks, and had this:

So today I applied some of my tempera / plaster dirt mix in the back corner. It needs a second layer, and in this picture it's still wet, but scenery is once again progressing (I was beginning to wonder if it ever would)!

On April 1st I also got a Topside Creeper (no, really!). After assembly, I posed it over Casper yard (with me on top, hamming it up for my wife - sorry):

Having this thing will allow me to postition Casper permanently back in the corner right after I get the backdrop finished. That, in turn, will allow me to extend the mainline both directions out of Casper much sooner than I would have otherwise, since I can easily do scenery work from the creeper.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, April 12, 2021 12:22 AM

Hi Mark,

I'm glad that you have finally solved the problems with the plaster. I have learned a lot from your experiences. I'm sure that others have too.

I am curious to find out how long you can actually lean on the Topside Creeper before it starts to get uncomfortable. Before I came up with the concept of having my layout rotate I had seriously considered using a Topside Creeper to solve the reach in challenges with my layout. I can't remember exactly how I tested the concept, but I do remember finding that leaning on my chest was extremely uncomfortable. Both my chest and my back protested loudly! Given all the back problems and other issues that I have suffered, I wasn't surprised that the creeper concept was uncomfortable. I dearly hope that it works for you!

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, April 12, 2021 5:51 AM

Pruitt

Rich, I'm thinking you meant the failed plaster aspect. Otherwise, I guess I know what you think of the road!

Yes, that is correct.

Glad to learn that you got that plaster to work.

Rich

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, April 12, 2021 5:54 AM

Pruitt

Mark, I am having a difficult time determining whether that is your normal relaxation position or your lean-to position when working over the layout.

Which is it?  Smile, Wink & Grin

Rich

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:42 PM

richhotrain
Mark, I am having a difficult time determining whether that is your normal relaxation position or your lean-to position when working over the layout.

Rich

Rich, It's so comfortable I've taken to sleeping up there! Sleep

hon30critter
I am curious to find out how long you can actually lean on the Topside Creeper before it starts to get uncomfortable. 

Dave

Dave, the creeper is not very comfortable from the git-go, but part of that is probably because it feels a bit precarious to be up on it. That will pass as I use it, but I don't think it will ever be my choice for relaxing while watching TV! But I think 15 minutes at a stretch working on the layout will be fine. We'll see.

20 April 2021

I spent this past weekend at the North Platte Nebraska train show with a few members of the Central Wyoming Model Railroad Association (the Casper Train Club). I made several hundred dollars selling stuff I bought years ago and now won't ever use, then spent most of it on a new locomotive - a BLI Consolidation in Chicago and North Western livery.

Meanwhile, I've resumed ballasting Casper yard, finishing up the second section today. The ballast is still wet on the inside tracks.

I did the track with the turnout before I went to North Platte, and I'm pleased to be able to report, with the ballast fully dried, it still works! Will wonders never cease!

I've also continued to add dirt in the area east of Hudson, but I don't have a shot of that. Maybe in a few days.

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 12:17 AM

Pruitt
then spent most of it on a new locomotive - a BLI Consolidation in Chicago and North Western livery.

That is a nice locomotive!

Dave

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:29 PM

Thanks, Dave! After it's been run in a bit I'll ask a guy at the club to weather it for me (I'm a bit reluctant to tackle that myself).

27 April 2021

I've been working on completing scenery into the corner on the CNW line over Casper. Track has been ballasted almost to Hudson, and I'm ready to remove the wax paper over the backdrop and begin the final detailed scenery.

This month I've also been building Rocky Mountain Drilling. I'm about half done, I think. Here I've installed half the tarpaper roof.

This is a very old Model Hobbies HO Feed Mill kit.

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Posted by Pruitt on Friday, April 30, 2021 8:43 AM

30 April 2021

I've continued to work on Rocky Mountain Drilling. Here I've set in place temporarily on the layout.

 I still have to add tar to the roof, add the chimney and the loading platforms. I also need to complete the weathering, of course.

Nathan, our local club president, weathered this switcher for me. It came out good! He'll be getting more of my locos to do.

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Posted by selector on Friday, April 30, 2021 11:15 AM

Yes, that is very realistic, Mark.  Nice job. I have thought, once or twice, of very carefully painting over the weathering with some gloss medium to simulate water overflow here and there on both the tender deck and sides, and of course on places on the steamer.  This would require some thought, a careful touch, maybe micro-brushes, and possibly the Mod Podge should be very slightly thinned...I'd have to do a trial.  But, with the fine weathering and some water evaporating still visible on parts of this fine locomotive model, you'd have something truly spectacular.  

Well down the road, of course.  You have miles to go before you begin to think of projects like these.

Still watching... Cool

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Posted by ChrisVA on Friday, April 30, 2021 2:21 PM

Is Rocky Mountain Drilling a kit or scratchbuilt?
Great weathering on the locomotive - any tips on how he does it?
Thanks!

 

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Posted by Lakeshore Sub on Friday, April 30, 2021 3:30 PM

Mark, 

I will also be curious to see how you like the BLI Consolidation.  Been thinking about getting one in CNW livery also.

 

Scott

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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:40 AM

Thanks guys! I'll pass the compliments on the loco on to the guy who did the work.

Selector, the gloss medium is a great idea! I may try a bit of it on the tender to start with.

ChrisVA, Rocky Mountain Drilling is a very old Model Hobbies kit - their HO Feed Mill. It's pretty basic, but I'm adding an interior floor (because I'm leaving one set of warehouse doors open), probably an interior partition or two, and adding lighting to the structure. 

As far as tips on the weathering job goes, all I really know is that he uses an airbrush, and he hates steam locomotives! He's a dyed-in-the-wool diesel fan. But he sure does a great job on the steamers! And he doesn't charge an arm and a leg - he enjoys doing them, so he works for the cost of materials for club members. He's about to get whole pile of locomotives to do Smile, Wink & Grin!

Scott, I'll let you know what I think of it, but it will be awhile. Right now it has almost no place to go except back and forth in the yard or on the CNW track above the yard.

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, May 3, 2021 2:59 PM

I just posted my latest layout update video...

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, May 3, 2021 8:48 PM

Great progress Mark.

Your friend did a magnificent job of weathering the steamer!

Dave

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