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Posted by lifeontheranch on Monday, March 27, 2017 7:27 AM

rrinker

 I don't recall seeing a schematic for the panels (checked the 9 parts of Control Panel), but how would they even get reverse biased unless you hooked up the panel backwards?

                                     --Randy

For each turnout there are two LEDs (red & green or yellow & green) that are wired reverse parallel - DIY bi-color arrangement. One LED of each pair is reverse biased at any given time.

The panel LEDs, diodes, and resistors replace the bi-color LED shown in this schematic:

Originally, I put a single LED current limiting resistor on the Tortoise board intending to use bi-color LEDs in the panels. During the time between building Tortoise boards and building control panels I changed to two individual LEDs for each turnout. Additional resistance was added to greatly lower the LED brightness level.

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Monday, March 27, 2017 7:23 AM

hon30critter

So in other words you are protecting the LEDs from reverse polarity instead of just letting them do it on their own? 

I edited my previous post while you were answering. Where did you get the circuit boards?

Dave

Yes. The LED reverse breakdown voltage is 5 volts. The panels are 12v.

I made the circuit boards. Described midway in this post: http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-vii/

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, March 27, 2017 7:06 AM

 I don't recall seeing a schematic for the panels (checked the 9 parts of Control Panel), but how would they even get reverse biased unless you hooked up the panel backwards?

                                     --Randy

 


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, March 26, 2017 11:01 PM

Hi again Alan:

lifeontheranch
They prevent reverse bias of the LEDs.

So in other words you are protecting the LEDs from reverse polarity instead of just letting them do it on their own? 

I edited my previous post while you were answering. Where did you get the circuit boards?

Dave

I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, March 26, 2017 10:51 PM

They prevent reverse bias of the LEDs.

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, March 26, 2017 10:48 PM

Hi Alan:

Impressive work!

Question: On the circuit boards that are lined up along the inside bottom of the control panel, I think I am seeing a diode beside each resistor. I'm guessing that the resistors are there to limit the current going to the LEDs, but what purpose do the diodes serve, if indeed they are diodes?

Also, did you make those circuit boards? If not, can you tell us your source?

Thanks

Dave

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, March 26, 2017 10:27 PM

Control panel work continues. Got the first two finished. Lots of soldering on the inside.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-ix/

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:48 AM

hon30critter
When you cut them in half they flowed right back together! Yuk! Talk about stomach ache material.

Laugh Self-healing pancakes! So, that's where the idea of the puncture-proof tires came from!

Excellent work here, Alan! Thank you for taking the time to share your progress...

Regards, Ed

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, February 19, 2017 1:00 AM
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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, February 12, 2017 9:44 PM

More progress on control panels. Assembling enclosures.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-vii/

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Monday, January 23, 2017 9:27 AM

Illustrator is primarily for professional users hence the price tag. Generally used in conjunction with the entire Adobe Creative Suite (CS or CC). I believe MRR uses Illustrator for the track plan illustrations. I use Adobe CS in my day job. There are other vector art drawing programs available that would do a fine job on something as simple as a control panel. Inkscape comes to mind. It is free open source.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, January 23, 2017 7:02 AM

lifeontheranch

Adobe Illustrator

 

Ah, that is not a cheap software package - I check and prices seem to range from approx $440 to over a a grand.  Not in the budget for some of us.

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:07 PM

Making wood enclosures for the control panels:

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-vi/

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Friday, December 23, 2016 10:47 PM

Holds the LEDs in place. Otherwise they could be accidently pushed out if someone were to place an errant finger on one.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, December 23, 2016 7:17 PM

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-v/

Made the link clickable.

I may have missed something, but what purpose does the back panel serve? Is it just reinforcement?

Dave

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:07 PM

Step-by-step build of control panel faces

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-v/

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, November 28, 2016 6:10 AM

Really nice work Alan!

By the way, I have never thrown away the first pancake! I would consider myself to be a 'pancake failure' if I had to do that! I do remember some pancakes that I was served in the Enlisted Men's Mess at CFB Trenton when I was an Air Cadet. When you cut them in half they flowed right back together! Yuk! Talk about stomach ache material. Those should have been tossed!

Dave

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Sunday, November 27, 2016 1:04 PM

The first pancake is always a throw away, right?

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-iv/

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:07 AM

Adobe Illustrator

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Posted by rventura on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 3:38 AM
Hi Alan. You may have mentioned this, but what software did you use to do your panel artwork with?
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Posted by lifeontheranch on Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:07 PM

Work continues on the control panels. Resolving engineering challenges one at a time.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-iii/

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:05 PM

That really looks awesome!

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Wednesday, November 9, 2016 7:51 PM

Did some testing this evening with LED colors. Turns out the orange LEDs I planned to use for the turntable are not distinct enough from the red to suit my tastes. Changed the turntable LED color to pink (purple pink). Much better LED color contrast to the red LEDs.

Also added additional track power controls to the service tracks.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-ii/

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 6:13 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys.

I finished the art for all of the panels on the upper deck. Now to get busy actually building them!

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-ii/

Here is panel 11 of 14:

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Posted by CentralGulf on Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:23 AM

Gorgeous artwork. Very impressive. Thumbs Up

CG

 

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Posted by wickman on Wednesday, November 2, 2016 10:45 PM

Very nicely done and nice descriptive write up on your web page . Thanks

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Wednesday, November 2, 2016 7:19 PM

Making control panels. Yard area panels are designed. Many more yet to go.

http://www.lkorailroad.com/control-panels-part-i/

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Posted by lifeontheranch on Monday, October 24, 2016 6:49 PM

Thanks Stu.

Indeed, I am living the dream. What a fantatsic hobby!

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Posted by wickman on Monday, October 24, 2016 10:37 AM

Fantastic, you are living the dream.

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Posted by Rastafarr on Monday, October 24, 2016 10:35 AM

Wow. The kind of workmanship i can only aspire to. Your video gave me the shivers! Bravo!

Stu

Streamlined steam, oh, what a dream!!

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