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650 cheyenne coaling tower

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650 cheyenne coaling tower
Posted by thomas81z on Friday, November 30, 2012 5:23 PM

hey guys .

ok i had the IHC coaling  tower that i built for my union pacific layout ,well as it happens in life , a divorce ,sold house &a move later i pulled out my tower from the box & shall we say its ahhhh in sad shape Sad  i want to rebuild it & i wanna know do they make detail kits for this coaling dock??? cause its mostly intact just the details like stairs & chute & things like that, i know i will most likely scratch build the details outta balsa but i figured i would put this out there , so if anybody knows of a details kit for this baby let me know , thanksWink

 

 

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Posted by maxman on Friday, November 30, 2012 6:40 PM

Tichy makes a 400 ton coaling tower kit: http://www.tichytraingroup.com/index.php?page=view_product.php&id=196&category=Structures.

They also sell a bunch of parts that look like they come from that kit: http://www.tichytraingroup.com/index.php?page=view_category.php&category=Structure+Parts&offset=0

Maybe you can use some of their items.

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Posted by farrellaa on Saturday, December 1, 2012 12:30 AM

This is the Life Like coaling tower with Tichy coal chute and weathered finish. Makes a nice detailed model out of  a plain kit.

   -Bob

Life is what happens while you are making other plans!

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Posted by Ole-Tom on Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:28 PM

thomas81z

hey guys .

ok i had the IHC coaling  tower that i built for my union pacific layout ,well as it happens in life , a divorce ,sold house &a move later i pulled out my tower from the box & shall we say its ahhhh in sad shape Sad  i want to rebuild it & i wanna know do they make detail kits for this coaling dock??? cause its mostly intact just the details like stairs & chute & things like that, i know i will most likely scratch build the details outta balsa but i figured i would put this out there , so if anybody knows of a details kit for this baby let me know , thanksWink

I built an HO model of the IHC 650 ton coal Bunker, Since lost, I used the tichie coal shoots and Ladder, lader cages and some of the Mesh decks hand rails. I scraped the kit hand rails and stait rails to thin them and remove curved and angled parts. iuse my hobby knife held at 90 degres back and fourth, left and right to put squarn edges  on the  guard  rails.  

    I'm off in th 'N' land now, if my eyes and hands permit, and I have an 'N' 650 ton kit I hope to build. I have some tiny white LEDs to use and I solder so may use brass guard rails and ladder if I can't find where to get etched parts. 

     I am seeking to find how the coal dump and ash clean out pits where located there had to have been a lot of underground machinery to supply, I asume, chain lifts at each end of the structure. 

    Dose anyone know of any U.P. plans of the coal bunker?

thanks

Ol-Tom

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:28 PM

Ole-Tom
I am seeking to find how the coal dump and ash clean out pits

Welcome to the forum

Ressurecting old threads is rarely worthwhile as people get distracted by comments of members that are no longer here, photos don't work, etc

Walthers has a cinder conveyor, no idea if UP used them

https://www.walthers.com/cinder-conveyor-ash-pit-kit

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:00 PM

Ole-Tom
Dose anyone know of any U.P. plans of the coal bunker?

One of the best sites for UP and related railroad information is a site called Utah Rails. You might find what you neet there. He does have drawings of the Provo coaling wharf and perhaps if you dig deeper there may be Cheyene info there, too.

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Provo-Coaling-Station/

Perhaps an email to Don Strack the owner of the site, might find some information?

There's an out of print book called The History of the Union Pacific in Cheyenne which has shop drawings and track diagrams but the last time I checked copies were going for $200-$300.

I posted a drawing for a generic wood coal wharf a while back:

 coal_wood by Edmund, on Flickr

or a concrete style:

 coal_concrete_0001 by Edmund, on Flickr

Maybe it would be useful for you (click the image to make it larger). Of course the Cheyenne tower was a steel structure but you can at least get an idea of the mechanics of these things.

Welcome Hope that helps, Ed

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:22 PM

As has been mentioned, Tichy offered many of the details of their large coaling tower as separate items.  Here's a link to their catalogue.

I used Tichy parts, left-over after building two Tichy coaling towers, to detail Walthers small concrete coaling tower, the only one which would fit in the limited space available...

Details from Tichy include the stairways and platforms, coal chute and associated hardware,  sand spouts, and the ladders and safety cages.  The sand house and sand storage and delivery tank were scratchbuilt.

Here are some photos of the Tichy coaling tower - the design of the kit allows the modeller to place the details wherever they wish, so it can be suited to the site you have available.  When I built it, I had no place for it on the layout, hence the improvised photo location...

When I finally got around to adding the long-planned partial second level to my layout, I finally had a home for the Tichy coaling tower...

Wayne

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Posted by railandsail on Monday, October 21, 2019 6:32 PM

You do such beautiful work doctorwayne Yes

BTW, I discovered a way to put your photos into my photo editing software and save them as a jpeg imagine in case Photobucket pulls another fast one. And your images are always worth saving!

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, October 21, 2019 8:55 PM

I appreciate your kind words, Brian.

I've also copied some of my photos from photobucket, when my old computer "ate" about 1200 photos off a flash drive.

Wayne

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Posted by KiwiTommo on Friday, July 3, 2020 12:58 AM

This is an elevation of the Cheyenne coaling dock. The left track under the structure was for coaling, hoppers would have been unloaded here. There is an elevator system to get coal up into the bunker. Ash is dumped from the ash pan into the pit, I have a photo which shows a small trolley on rails running the length of the pit. The ash was then also sent to an elevator to be raised into the cinder hopper which occupies left side of structure, this was dumped into hoppers or gondolas (via chutes) sitting on rail to the left.

All this was discovered when researching for my own coaling dock. Having sat in it’s box for the past quarter of a century, I am finally assembling it. The kit is not very well designed, parts don’t mate up easily.

Would you like me to post some photos of my model as well?

 Cheyenne coal dock elevation by andrew thompson, on Flickr

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Posted by KiwiTommo on Friday, July 3, 2020 7:05 AM

This is the plan view of the Cheyenne coaling dock and associated track work. The rectangles on the tracks just to the east of the coal dock are the concrete pads associated with the wash racks. The ash/inspection   pits seem to be locted between the dock and wash racks from what I can gather by looking at photos. I have seen a few people paint the dock a grey colour, photos taken when it was still new show that it was painted black.

 Cheyenne coal dock track plan by andrew thompson, on Flickr

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Posted by railandsail on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:04 AM

BigDaddy
Ressurecting old threads is rarely worthwhile as people get distracted by comments of members that are no longer here, photos don't work, etc

Look what wonderful postings were brought up after this old tread was ressurected. I believe in it as there is much to be learned from the past.

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Posted by SouthPenn on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 3:29 PM

This is what the coaling station looked like 'out of the box' almost. I think I remember painting the steel work black becaues they were red. I built this almost 30 years ago so my memory is a little iffy.

 

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Posted by KiwiTommo on Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:57 AM

This is how the model looks at present. I have applied some weathering to define the individual corrugated metal sheets, but I think it is a bit too defined and needs toning down. The tower is hopefully going to be the centre piece of a new diorame I am slowly building for taking photos of my locos outdoors. There is another foam board which adjoins the end of the tracks visible.

 Coaling dock C by andrew thompson, on Flickr

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Posted by thomas81z on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 8:33 PM

KiwiTommo

This is how the model looks at present. I have applied some weathering to define the individual corrugated metal sheets, but I think it is a bit too defined and needs toning down. The tower is hopefully going to be the centre piece of a new diorame I am slowly building for taking photos of my locos outdoors. There is another foam board which adjoins the end of the tracks visible.

 Coaling dock C by andrew thompson, on Flickr

 

necroposting my old thread but wow that is awesome work on 

that 650 coaling tower. I might do  the same thing a diorama

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Posted by KiwiTommo on Friday, April 16, 2021 12:48 AM

The track has all been laid, and ballast/ground cover added. Lots of small details to still add, but this gives an idea of some of the photo opportunities:
 Pennsy M1a & T1 with coaling dock by andrew thompson, on Flickr

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, April 16, 2021 12:40 PM

That is a beautiful achievement! Bow Bow Bow

When I see PRR locomotives gathered at the "feeding trough" I'm reminded of the huge PRR coaling facility at Denholm,  or Thorndale, Pa..

Very nice work and a beautiful photo Yes Thanks for sharing!

Regards, Ed

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Posted by thomas81z on Saturday, April 24, 2021 10:16 AM

KiwiTommo

The track has all been laid, and ballast/ground cover added. Lots of small details to still add, but this gives an idea of some of the photo opportunities:
 Pennsy M1a & T1 with coaling dock by andrew thompson, on Flickr

 

wow is that awesome !!!

i finally rebuilt mine

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