Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

The CSX Lowell Subdivision thread (new layout) UPDATED!!!

2161 views
11 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
The CSX Lowell Subdivision thread (new layout) UPDATED!!!
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:15 PM

If any of you remember a long time ago when I talked about building a huge layout that would fill my basement, that plan has been scrapped.  I am now focusing on a smaller, stage-by-stage approach.  My plan for the first phase is a 5x9 area that will encompass the engine service facility, the town of Lowellville, and a small river.  Plans are not yet finalized.  The only thing I see becoming a problem is keeping the tables I made for it flat (they have since warped slightly during the past year.).  Any suggestions?

  • Member since
    August 2004
  • From: Virginia Beach
  • 2,150 posts
Posted by tangerine-jack on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:01 PM

One suggestion, go to your public library and check out a few books on model railroad bench work, home carpentry, and deck building.  Sounds to me like you need a lot more details than can be posted on a forum, you need books, man!  Build strong using tried and true methods.  There is a world of professional carpenters on call 24/7 rain or shine in those books I mentioned should you have a question.  Follow their advice and you will become wise. 

 

The Dixie D Short Line "Lux Lucet In Tenebris Nihil Igitur Mors Est Ad Nos 2001"

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:51 PM
I actually own several books on the subject.  I've determined that I'll have to take off the top sheet and add in some L girders, and then get some nice plywood and make a fascia board and put some better top boards on.
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • 73 posts
Posted by P42 108 on Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:25 AM
I happen to be planning a CSX layout myself. While my home is still under construction from a house fire that destroyed my previous layout that was being built at the time, I still have to decide the specifics on my new layout. I know two things for sure. One, it will have heavy CSX and Amtrak traffic. Two, it will be a shelf layout. Those are the only things I am sure of. Until my house is finished and I know how much space I have to work with, nothing else can be decided. So for now, all I can do is purchase locomotives and rolling stock. Good luck with your layout. Starting off stage by stage is a good idea, especially for sombody like myself who has little carpentry or layout building skills. 
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:33 AM

My condolences on the fire.  Hope nobody got hurt.

I'm going to have some Amtrak traffic on mine as well.  I need to get myself one of those long-hood EMD switchers and a few more frieght cars myself.

  • Member since
    May 2007
  • 73 posts
Posted by P42 108 on Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:52 AM
Thanks for the condolences. Luckily my family and our dog escaped without injury. As of now I have a CSX SD-60, a set of CSX bethgon coalporters, and an Amtrak P42 with a cafe car and amfleet coach. My collection will continue to grow over time. I'm hoping to put some larger locomotives on my line as well. Larger loco's requires broader curves and since I'm not sure where my layout is going, I don't know how much room I have to play with. For now I will buy smaller locos, such as a U23B in CSX paint.
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:28 PM

I've got a CSX U33C, a BNSF GP38-2 which I plan to paint in the new CSX paint scheme, several CSX frieght cars, a bunch of BN and GN stuff, an Amtrak F40PH (scheme III) and three 83' passenger cars.  Not to mention the fairly sizable collection of buildings I have acquired buring the past few years.  I hope to start rebuilding the benchwork soon.

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:42 PM

I found this cool software called XTrackCAD that lets you do all the layout-designing things and even run your trains on it!  This will help me design my layout better.

Check it out!

http://www.xtrkcad.org

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 2, 2007 4:09 PM

It turns out we may be remodeling out basement (to hide the water heaters and AC unit) so it might be a while before I can really begin on the railroad.  But for now, I can continue my track planning and working on the plan for the basement remodel.

Since we haven't ever used our basement for anything except storing junk, we'll have to clean it out.  Then, I'll bring in my uncle (who happens to work in construction and will be able to help with the putting up of walls) and put up the wood framing and drywall.  Then we'll start on the ceiling (probably putting up some soffits around the airconditioner ducts and putting in a semi-drop ceiling (our basement has 8 foot ceilings, but there are ducts and pipes that make the usable ceiling 7 feet) and making the wires (cable coming in from the street, etc) up against the wall).  We'll have to replace the window, put down some outdoor carpeting, and then put in some more lights.  Quite a list when you think about it.  So, I will be posting the progress of that remodel as well.

click picture to enlarge

Our basement is roughly 50 by 25 (the usable part, the section under the laudry room is a crawlspace) and the part that will become the train room is about 10 by 30.  That includes the window and what will become the workbench.  The section on the other side of the new wall will become the "manhole" with TV and couch, and probably a fridge of some type (also doubles as a layout reception room).  All of this will most likely take over a month, and we can't start until the basement is cleaned out.  That's a task in and of itself.  The reason there's so much of the basement going to be lost by the new wall is because I have to have a buffer around the AC and water heaters and there's some extremely low ducts and pipes, and I decided to seal those inside the new wall.  The space inside the new wall will probably become a closet.

  • Member since
    May 2007
  • 73 posts
Posted by P42 108 on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:58 PM
I just purchased a video called "CSX Mountain Sub" from Pentrex. It was a great tape. It had a lot of nice shots of CSX trains grinding their way up steep hills. I liked it, and if you have not seen it, I highly recommend it. Depending on how far you take the hobby, you might be inspired to model scenes from the tape. An interesting twist of events will allow me to begin constructing my layout soon. It will begin on one side of the room and stop at the other, so my Amtrak shuttle trains will have to run from one end of the layout and use a cab car on its way back to the other. As far as CSX goes, I will not have enough room to build a subdivision. Instead I am happy to model a local freight that will switch a few industries along the route and share a yard with Amtrak. I finally decided to use a mix of Atlas Code 100 and 83 track. I was once considering Bachmann EZ Track and Kato Unitrack, but I did not like the idea of attached roadbed.
  • Member since
    May 2005
  • From: Riverside,Ca.
  • 1,127 posts
Posted by spidge on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:36 PM

CSXGUY, thanks for sharing. I do hope you keep this thread updatted for us all to see.

I suggest that you have a humidity problem. There have been many disscusions on this but it seems that one of the best solutions is to simply seal the wood with sealer or paint. I would use paint myself. Don't scrimp on anything, big L-girders at least 4"or 6" inches depending on how far you plan to span to the next support. Joists should be 3"to 4", I used 2" and it was a mistake, still strong but could be better. Put the joists 12" to 16" on center and top with 3/4" subroadbed. This may take a bit of extra effort but you will be able to climb on it and not worry about it.The subroadbed must be very strong or the extra deflexion will cause the track to change characteristics constantly. Imagine a new set of problems every time the weather changes.

I like the sectional aproach. Even a small bedroom layout could turn into a monster so take it a little at a time. This way you can experience every aspect from start to finish detailing.

John

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:08 PM

Actually, I think I'll be able to salvage the existing benchwork by just swapping out the plywood topper.  I used 2x4s for the legs and framing, so I can already walk on it (I've tried and done it).

As far as the basement de-junking, my mom and I cleared out a lot of stuff and found a hidden doorway.  Imagine that.  Now I don't have to worry about the low ducts, because that will be in the area next to the door (which will probably become a closet).  Since that area is directly underneath the downstairs half-bath, we might even be able to put in a small bathroom there.  That would come in quite handy (not to mention raise the value of our house).  That leaves me with more room by my workbench because I won't have to put the door there.

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!