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If you want a return loop on a 42" wide shelf, it means 18" radii (snap track - or max 20" with flex). This is tight but not impossible. The main complaint usually being looks rather than functionality. I would suggest instead that you look at doing a switching layout - a yard or industrial district - where you could really put those engines to work. There have been some really great plans in MR for switching and/or industrial layouts in the past several years. This type of layout lends itself to modular construction - 2x4 foot modules with 3x4" plywood frames and styrofoam decks are the (lightweight!) standard at my local modular club (www.hotrak.ca). Now, if you are a "trains running thorough scenery" guy, you will have to work something out with a continuous loop. Andrew
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