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I've used them extensivley on my "N" scale outlet. I used the starters as is from the box. I bought Starters in 2-3 & 4 % and then used combos of them plus the risers from .5" through 4" to make the grades I needed. At the transistion from grade to flat I used my Stanley shaper to ease the transistion. If there was a problem at the begining I let the track go where it wanted and then slid thin cardboard, thin foam or even paper to ease the transistion. Either way I find them much easier than the cookie cutter way. Glad to try and answer any questions. Dave
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