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It sounds logical to have the uphill train on the outside of the helix, so I tried rebilding the blueprint to go the other direction. Over all, I would like the trains to go counter-clockwise in this room. [img.nr]http://lefebure.com/trains/layout/layout3.gif[/img.nr] I should first say that I don't like this much. Its just too disorganized for my tastes. This plan would include a over/under type of bridge instead of a true helix so it will be easier to see and access the lower part of the layout. After doing some thinking the past couple days, I'm looking to do a helix the direction like I had in layout #2, but go with several loops, not just 1. I'd either build my own helix or purchase the pre-made pieces from Trainstyles. With their 4.5 turn helix, that should create a difference of 15 to 16 inches - enough to have a fully visable lower level. That would hopefully eliminate some of the hidden track that could cause issue. -Lance
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