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Uncoupling magnets vs skewers

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, September 18, 2017 8:56 PM

I have a Rix tool, it seems to work ok on straight track, but mostly use the skewer.

Mike.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, September 18, 2017 10:50 PM

Guys,What sold me on KD couplers way back in the mid 60s was the hands free uncoupling..For around four years I used a small flat tip screwdriver for uncoupling then I return to magnets and haven't looked back..

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:41 AM

Skewers for me. The hassle of adjusting and maintaining couplers on two hundred cars so they will operate with uncouplers is a daunting task.

In addition, the layouts that I have operated on that had uncouplers were plagued by unwanted uncouplings when a train would pause over the uncoupler for some reason other than wanting to uncouple cars.

Your mileage may vary,

 

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Posted by Geared Steam on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 9:35 PM

maxman

 

 
wjstix
Over the years I've gotten in the habit of uncoupling manually. I have relatively long fingers, so just reach around the HO carbody, grab the truck, lift it up and move it to the right, engage the couplers in the 'offset' position, and put it back on the track.

 

Yes, I've also seen it done that way.  Unfortunately I don't like to handle the cars, especially when they get to be detailed and $50 each.  Plus I've seen too many operators with orange Cheeto fingers running around "weathering" equipment.

Less touching the better.

 

Lol madman

Cheeto fingers will be the downfall of the hobby!

Serve tortilla chips instead Smile, Wink & Grin

I like skewers, but use super magnets in a few remote places, both work fine for me.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:45 AM

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Would I be correct in believeing that no one here has any complaints about using the skewer for uncoupling?

There are parts of my layout where using a skewer is awkward, and sometimes it's easier not to have to walk all the way around to the other side.  I left all my magnets in place, but I just find the skewers easier.

If I ever build another layout, I will keep all reaches short and convenient so I won't really need magnets.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:27 PM

Put me down for magnets and magnets only.

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All of my layouts except for one have been built for solo operation. I know where the magnets are, and I do not need to train anyone. I want to touch the equipment as little as possible. I like pushing a sring of cars with the couplers in the delayed position down a spur for a drop off.

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Posted by Peconic1954 on Thursday, September 21, 2017 8:07 PM

I've built two N scale railroads. A 50' around the walls shelf and an NTRAK module with dog bone ends and a timesaver. I used HO under track magnets cut in half and without the metal base plates. They worked beautifully. I painted the end of a tie white to mark the center point Of the magnet. 

One negative is that magnets require a lot of engine movements to get the couplers uncoupled an offset to allow you to push the car into position. I ultimately found this irritating during a long switching session.

The current pipe dream is a small HO shelf with a very simple but somewhat devious track plan. After reading the comments about skewers I think I'll give them a try. They get rid of the unnecessary engine moves and add to the involvement of the crew. 

Thanks to all for your thoughtful comments. 

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Posted by Bernie NYK&W on Friday, September 22, 2017 12:44 AM

restorator

What are you preferences and reasoning on the subject of uncoupling magnets or skewers or other tools? 

 

Both. Each has its time. Each has its place.

Bernie Halloran NYK&W
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Posted by Bigdon on Friday, September 22, 2017 5:09 PM

Would you mind a photo or drawing of it

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Posted by jfb on Friday, September 22, 2017 6:14 PM
how do those magnets work buddy i have about a dozen to be put in.
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Posted by groundeffects on Friday, September 22, 2017 7:46 PM

I like skewers (wood are fine) for two reasons.  I can uncouple cars where I want them, and the skewers also come in handy for cooking shish-kabobs.

Nyuk-nyuk....

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Posted by jfb on Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:44 PM

i have about a dozen magnets that i can install i tried them in the steel area and they seemed to not work. So how do magnets work for operational use?

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Posted by jfb on Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:46 PM

see the lower message i have many of the magnets to be used and installed.

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Posted by hwolf on Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:38 PM

I was thumbing through all these treads and I could not beleive no one as mentioned this.  I think it was in a copy of Model Railroader.

 

I attatched a small flashlight on to the skewer ( Habour Freight free gift ). It make it easy to see even in a night scene.  Works great.

Harold

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Posted by jfb on Monday, October 9, 2017 11:23 AM

what a response to magnets this is. i went to  the train show yesterday and finished my magnet needs. i need realism and now i can acomplish this in all areas of my layout. by the way average cost is 2.75 a magnet.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, October 9, 2017 11:51 PM

I've pretty much completed my conversion of my rolling stock to metal wheels, and this has created a couple of new problems.

The metal wheels roll better, so cars are much more fussy about staying in place on a siding after being spotted if there's the slightest slope.  My solution has been to "plant" tufts of field grass between the ties on sidings.  This will hold he cars just enough to keep them from rolling freely, but not enough to interfere with switching.  The grass near the end of this siding is sufficient to hold the scrap metal gons in place.

I used some Kadee below-the-ties magnets on the newer parts of my layout.  They are very strong, and they actually pull the cars with metal wheels and try to center them on the magnet, sometimes making uncoupling impossible.  This was one of those things that drove me to skewers.

Electromagnets have a problem that is not often mentioned.  They take a lot of power.  When I first installed one, I discovered that pushing the button to energize it caused all the building lights in that part of town to dim, so I found another supply and dedicated it to that one uncoupler.  I got some newer electromagnets to use on main lines on other parts of my layout, and found I needed an even larger supply for those.

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