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Looking for low profile switch motors

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Looking for low profile switch motors
Posted by robkoz on Friday, February 24, 2017 12:06 PM

Since this layout is overhead I'm looking to avoid large boxy switches. So this is part of the main line. Since access is difficult with only 6.5" of clearance I will be building this seperately then replacing the current single track. As you can see the switch motors will be visible so I'm looking for something low profile if it exists. Thanks.

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Posted by cuyama on Friday, February 24, 2017 12:15 PM

Servos can be very compact, but there is also a new generation of traditional stall-type switch motors that are much smaller than the venerable tortoise.

http://www.modelrailroadcontrolsystems.com/mp5-switch-motor/

 

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Posted by robkoz on Friday, February 24, 2017 1:34 PM

Thank you! 
Any tips or website for guidelines?

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Posted by CSX Robert on Friday, February 24, 2017 2:35 PM

If you don't mind "snap-action" swicthes, you can't get much lower profile than Atlas under table switch machines.

 

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, February 24, 2017 2:37 PM

The Atlas switch machine from the middle of the last century is quite compact:

 

 

It's a twin-coil style.  You can move it manually, too, with that little sliding tab over towards the left.  I don't have any, anymore; but I think they're about 3/8" thick and about 4 inches long.  And they're "flat bottomed".

 

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, February 24, 2017 2:39 PM

 Doesn't get much smaller than a 9G servo. Or cheaper - 10 for $20 on Amazon. Of course you do need a driver circuit to control them, but there are several to chose from. Most have both the buttons as well as indicator lights to show you which way it's lined.

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Posted by woodman on Saturday, February 25, 2017 8:35 PM
I have 20 of them mint in box, if you are interested let me know, pay the postage and their yours for free.
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Posted by robkoz on Saturday, February 25, 2017 8:44 PM

woodman
I have 20 of them mint in box, if you are interested let me know, pay the postage and their yours for free.

Thanks! I only need 8. What kind are they?

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Posted by Alantrains on Monday, February 27, 2017 5:35 AM

cuyama

Servos can be very compact, but there is also a new generation of traditional stall-type switch motors that are much smaller than the venerable tortoise.

http://www.modelrailroadcontrolsystems.com/mp5-switch-motor/

 The MP4 is an interesting switch machine Cuyama

Have you used them or bought any?

 

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, February 27, 2017 6:12 AM

 All these new stall motors seem to have the same problem - they draw WAY more current than a Tortoise so you can no longer use the LEDs in series with the motor as indicators, you MUST use the switch machine contacts. At 100ma for this one, it may exceed many DCC stall motor controllers, if you are interested in DCC control of them.

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Posted by Alantrains on Monday, February 27, 2017 7:20 AM

True Randy.

Reading their literature, they use limit switches so there is no stall current which I would find useful. Just wondering if anyone has used them.

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Posted by cuyama on Monday, February 27, 2017 10:38 AM

Alantrains
The MP4 is an interesting switch machine Cuyama

 

Have you used them or bought any?

I have only seen them demonstrated -- the switch points on my own small switching layouts are all hand-thrown.

It would probably be cheap to try one out, since no separate board is needed as is typical for servos (which are also fine).

 

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Posted by Alantrains on Monday, February 27, 2017 5:16 PM

I have several turnouts operated manually, others with twin coils, a few Tortises, some others with relays, one with a servo, and one circitron motor. It would be nice to try the MP4 but postage to Australia would bump the cost considerably.  I might stick with tortises as I still have a box full of them from when the Aussie dollar was worth $1.05US. It's currently about 77cents US which also pushes the price up further. The MP4s are made in the Czech republic in Europe.

Alan Jones in Sunny Queensland (Oz)

 

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Posted by woodman on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:16 PM
They are the Atlas under the turnout mount.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 2, 2017 4:14 PM

What is an acceptable distance sticking down?  I have a mounting method that gets the tortoise down to 2.75".  Is that too much.  If not I have photos.

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