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Special effects
Posted by hwolf on Monday, October 12, 2015 5:45 PM

I am creating I backdrop with a special effect.

 

It will create a scene with Lightning & Thunder. I am working on the design and would like to hear some idea you may have.

Here was what I have already.  The area is about 4' x 1.5' It is at the back of the layout facing you.

On a piece of Plastic 3/32" thick I have put the lightning bolt with White Glue and have primed over the sheet.  I am now going to use an Air Brush to layer the storm sky color.

Hear is where I could use some advice. My plan now is to use a strobe in back of the plastic with a Push Button on my panel. When I hit the button the lightning would flash.

The sound will be a different subject but I already have a Sub Woffer ready to go.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Harold

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, October 12, 2015 6:18 PM

Good luck using plastic as a light tube to create lighting, I give that a shot about 10 years ago and gave up.  There is a club that brings their modular layout to the Kern County yearly train show that has an excellent “storm module”.  They use a mask in front of an xenon strobe that looks terrific.  They also have a twister that comes down out of a nicely painted dark layered storm cloud, the twister is spinning slowly as it descends and accompanied by wonderful sound effects.
 
Here is a link to local TV coverage of the Train show, toward the end of the clip there is a good shot of the Strom Module.
 
I found a picture of the Module
 
 
It's not happening today. this was taken in March.
 
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Posted by rrinker on Monday, October 12, 2015 6:48 PM

 The tornado module is impressive. The silly reporting of those two reporters though, pretty hard to listen to for more than a few seconds.

"Over 90 little trains all hooked together to make one big one"  Really?

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, October 12, 2015 7:14 PM

rrinker

 The tornado module is impressive. The silly reporting of those two reporters though, pretty hard to listen to for more than a few seconds.

"Over 90 little trains all hooked together to make one big one"  Really?

                      --Randy

 

And that my friend is what I have to put up with being trapped in Bakersfield.
 
 
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Posted by hwolf on Monday, October 12, 2015 8:23 PM

Mel

I am not sure what you mean buy a light tube.  Picture clear plastic with a light source behind it.  Now grey out everything except the bolt of lightning. The only thing you will see is the lightning.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, October 12, 2015 8:48 PM

hwolf

Mel

I am not sure what you mean buy a light tube.  Picture clear plastic with a light source behind it.  Now grey out everything except the bolt of lightning. The only thing you will see is the lightning.

Harold

 

I was after a slightly different effect.  I tried to use Acrylic plastic in thin jagged strips that weren’t obvious by eye until illuminated in the open not behind a sheet of plastic, it didn’t work.  I couldn’t concentrate enough light through the sliver of Acrylic to resemble lightning.
 
 
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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Monday, October 12, 2015 9:21 PM

Unless you want the strobe effect of repeated flashes at an exact interval you don't need a strobe light. If you plan on manually pushing a momentary switch button for ever flash any incandescent light will do . If you need to control light spill there is black tin foil designed for use with theatrical lighting to block unwanted stray light.

Instead of using a button, I would buy a light which is sensitive to sound. The sound waves activate the light so that the lightning flashes with the sound of thunder. You can find lights like these in autoparts stores or musical instruments/DJ stores.

For sound effects check out Thunderstorm Sounds, a CD you might be interested in using. This is the last copy of it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161840574209

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, October 12, 2015 9:46 PM

I gave up on that project a long time a go.  I did try several things and learned a lot doing it.  The thing that worked the best for me was multiple clear and blue fiber strands of different lengths.  The problem was always the same, not enough light for what I wanted.
 
I use a lot of fiber optics on my layout for special effects driven mostly by super bright LEDs.  They work great for flickering fire effects and road flares.  I tried red fiber strands for taillights but clear with red die works much better.  With the new super bright RGB LEDs almost anything is possible using fiber strands.
 
 
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Posted by Steven S on Monday, October 12, 2015 10:07 PM

Why model the bolt of lightning?  It's going to be the same shape and in the same spot every time it flashes.  I think I'd eventually get tired of something like that.  Why not just have a hidden light source flash to simulate a nearby, but unseen, lightning strike.

 

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Posted by hwolf on Monday, October 12, 2015 10:37 PM

Not a bad idea steve. I like the lightning for dramatic effect. It is a large area so the flash gets minimized.

Harold 

 

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