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Backdrop Construction
Posted by BentSpike on Friday, January 15, 2010 1:56 PM

I am working on benchwork for a new layout (my first to be honest) and am wanting to use 1/8" tempered masonite for the backdrop surface.  I am not concerned about fastening it along the bottom, as it will be screwed into the perimeter banding of the benchwork,  I am concerned about vertical support, the overall height is projected to be 24".  Also, what about a support band at the top, or will the material basically support itself.  And if i use vertical supports behind the panel around a corner curve, what is the best way to attach the masonite to the support member, without the use of screws?  Any suggestions appreciated. . . . Thanks

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Posted by HHPATH56 on Friday, January 15, 2010 2:24 PM
My backdrop is made of Luan, and is screwed to the studs of my garage loft HO layout. It seems that if you used carpenter's glue and clamped a continuous strip of the tempered masonite to the top rear, that it would sturdy. One might also glue vertical 1"x3" ,(or masonite strips), behind the joints, and use drywall joint strips to hide the joints. Incidentally, a good way to attain forced perspective on the backdrop is to use 7"x11" SceniKing ,or apply Walther's 24"x155" continuous paroramas. I matched the fairly uniform sky blue top of the paper panorama, electronically, at the paint store, and applied the paint before gluing on the panorama, around the four sides of my 24'x24' "around the room", HO layout Photo shows the slightly raised N scale dogbone, directly behind the HO tracks. .Bob Hahn
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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 15, 2010 4:01 PM

 I used 1/8 masonite for mine. It has been standing straight and tall with no support for a couple of years now. It is attached to the 1 x 4 edge of the benchwork with 10/32 machine screws and t-nuts. If it does need support I would do it by gluing masonite to the back. It holds it the same way as when constructing spline roadbed. In others words if it sags push it straight and clamp a strip on the back. When the glue is dry it will stay straight when you remove the clamps.

I would not waste my time sanding. A good primer coat is all that is needed. (I have done testBig Smile)

 

 

 

On the back of where two pieces were joined I glued a 6" wide strip of masonite down the back with carpenters glue and filled with Dap wall filler.

 

 

 

If you have a curve planned, cut out a piece on the bottom and curve it over the top of the benchwork.

 

 

Good luckSmile

 

                                                            Brent

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Posted by Doc in CT on Friday, January 15, 2010 5:06 PM

 I wouldn't worry about curved corners, the masonite should be self supporting.  You could always build a support framework of 1x2 lumber (flat) to support the long stretches.

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Posted by on30-bug on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:40 PM

Masonite  or  luan 

  Which is most likely not to break trying to bend into a 2 1/2 ft radious corner?

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Posted by E-L man tom on Friday, January 29, 2010 9:36 PM
Dittos on the 1X2's. I used them on both staight and curved areas, just to add some extra rigidity. The supports on the curved portion were used so keep the masonite (1/8" tempered) from "scooting" or getting out of the desired shape of the curve.
Tom Modeling the free-lanced Toledo Erie Central switching layout.
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Posted by gerhard_k on Thursday, February 4, 2010 11:26 PM
on30-bug

Masonite  or  luan 

  Which is most likely not to break trying to bend into a 2 1/2 ft radious corner?

On the layout I am helping on, 1/8" Masonite was bent into tighter than 1 foot radius by spraying it with water until it would bend enough, installing it while moist, then when it dried, it pretty much kept the bent shape. I don't think you'll have any trouble with the easy curve that you're planning.

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Posted by bogp40 on Friday, February 5, 2010 12:18 AM

I agree with Gerhard that the masonite  will bend to a tighter and will provide a self supporting even curve. Luan can sometimes be unpredictable while bending. This is especially true if it is bent horizontally to the outer surface grain. Yes any ply will bend easier with the "grain" vertical but that will give you seams @ 4' instead of 8'. Masonite will bend to a tighter radius and is not affected by any grain orientation. Luan will need additional coats of primer and may grain raise. To stop any potential grain raise, use an Alkyd based primer. Many water based products may be quick dry but could result in some ugly grain showing even after 2-3 coats.Regardless of what wood product you do use, do back prime to help prevent any moisture absorbtion.  

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Friday, February 5, 2010 12:47 AM

on30-bug

Masonite  or  luan 

  Which is most likely not to break trying to bend into a 2 1/2 ft radious corner?

 

 

Without question the luan will not last if you bend it. It will splinter and eventually come apart, ask me how I know after replacing all the luan fascia  on a 50'x100' layout.

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Posted by CascadeBob on Friday, February 5, 2010 5:05 PM

 I have bent hardboard (Masonite) to a 24" radius curve with no problem.  I would guess that you could do the same with luan plywood.  I have read on this forum that you can get hardboard down to a 12" radius curve without problems.  Inside curves are less of a problem than outside curves.  On outside curves you want to be sure that there are no sharp corners behind and in contact with the curve.  These can cause the hardboard to crack at the point of contact between the sharp corner and the back of the hardboard where the hardboard curves.The luan plywood that I've seen in Lowes has a a texture to its surface, whereas hardboard is very smooth.  In preparing hardboard to be painted, I applied two coats of a good quality primer (e.g., Behr brand @ Home Depot) to the surface that will be painted for the actual backdrop.  Two primer coats kills the brown color of the hardboard.  To be sure the hardboard will not pick-up moisture, I apply one primer coat to the back of the hardboard.

 Bob

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