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Your use of words like bias personalize an argument, focusing off the topic.  Lets talk about foam, not your bias towards my conculsions, which is where the real bias is.Umm, Joe. Would you care to go back and see which of us used the term bias first? My results with foam were typical and predictable based upon most the results I see from others.Joe, you're seeing what you want to see. I see lots of good foam scenery and lots of good chicken-wire scenery. I see lots of bad foam scenery and lots of bad chicken-wire scenery. Guess what? It isn't the material to blame for the bad scenery, it's the skill of the builder with the materials used.And throwing plaster cloth or sculptamold and plaster rock castings on foam?  Well that about sums it up.Sums up what? That I use a variety of established techniques to finish my scenery? Thank you. Bare plywood doesn't make good scenery and neither does bare foam. It's the foundation, not the end.I use foam to create a giant "topo map" on my layout. That way I can actually see what the major land forms are going to look like, where buildings will fit, rough cut in rivers, etc.  I can do this easily and quickly with foam, changing things that don't look right before committing them to permanency. It also gives me something three dimensional to run through that's more fun until I can get to the actual scenery.I went to your website, http://www.ironpeng.com I liked the cear pictures of the electronic signs, the best pictures of those products I've seen.  Looked for pictures of your layout, must have missed the link.Thank you. I thought I was going to change web servers last month and took down all the mrr  stuff in preparation. Now it looks like I'm not going to change so I'll have to put it back up. In fact, I'll go do that right now...Later...OK here's two links, one to my old layout with the WS plaster how-to: <a href="http://www.ironpeng.com/scenery/srr_Nscale.htm">http://www.ironpeng.com/scenery/srr_Nscale.htm</a>The other to my new layout in a different house. I've done more work on it, but haven't posted any new pics for a while.<a href="http://www.ironpeng.com/Nscale/nscalemain.html">http://www.ironpeng.com/Nscale/nscalemain.html</a>
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