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Redneck read the brief again, this is just what i do not do and will not do.William, that is a brilliant suggestion, however i think i will need to contact a different mob as this is the tropics and things are different here. For a tree to grow to 4 odd metres  and be as full as this one is, with about 20 trunks (4 serious ones) in 4 years, you will understand that the tropics are a source of rapidly growing flora of all types.Robert mate Palms and any tree in Australia have terrific root systems to live; as this is a very dry continent (the driest actually) but that is a very good idea though and although it will be hard; i will look into it.S& G I didn't think much of what you had to say; it is obvious that you havent seen a Queensland golden palm they are absolutely beautiful and very expensive to buy as well. Your attitude is quite parochial and i would suggest that you don't have a very distant horizon in your thinking. What would a spruce, blue or toherwise be doing in the tropics? how would i get such a thing past Australian Quarantine, even if i was silly enough to follow your advice.Keep up the suggestions though gentlemen. thank you.Rgds Ian
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