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Yes gentlemen this is a worthwhile subject and matybe even the coffee shop boys might contribute. Tom your thing sounds terrific and well planned and executed I don't think I would have the patience to do all that and Doreen certainly wouldn't; we do all our stuff together The products the other guys mentioned sound really good but I don't know if i can get them here in the tropics. However I still have the problem of suiting my tunnel portals which are hard to get in concrete (cement) which is the theme of my layout! My tunnel is now working perfectly with only a 225 mm or 9 " pipe and the onlyreason it acted up was through me not doing it properly to start with. Rgds Ian.
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