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Yes gentlemen what i am using is a large diametre plastic pipe and really it is ideal and it wasn't the pipes fault at all that i had trouble after the fact. The problem was me, i did not do the job properly in the first place. If I had of been as careful as I was when redoing the job in the firat place i wouldn't have had to redo it. And i think it is a lesson for life, "do it correctly the first time and there won't be a second time! Tony I have been aware for some time, say 20 years that a new form of discrimination is alive and well and hardly anyone has noticed it but nevertheless it is there and getting more so as the world gets smaller. I am talking about hemispherical discrimination.; we are definitely discriminated against because we live in the southern hemisphere. Even our fair moderator who is a really nice person, blithely talks about spring wnen in most of the world is not in spring. We here in the southern hemisphere are in Autumn (fall) and the entire area of the earth between the tropic of capricorn and the tropic of cancer (about a third of the world) never has spring at all; as in the tropics they only have two seasons per year and neither of them are spring! Well anyway we can put this topic top bed the problemis solved and it is now operating in an exemplary fashion. And thanks fopr everyones input. Rgds Ian
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