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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by TonyWalsham My Hartland Mack switcher and Woody arrived today. Everything will have to go in the cab....It may be necessary to redo the lights so that the wiring connections go down into the motor block....Constant removal and replacement of the lights lenses may be a long term problem ...The only other problem I foresee is placement of an ON-OFF switch. [/quote] Tony, I missed this reply until today. I hope you haven't gotten to far into it yet! Because I want to suggest that you might be able to avoid all of the issues you're describing, and also avoid "littering" in the cab, by doing the following instead: 1. Pop off one of the two mac engines. 2. Glue one of Hartland's Value Line gondola "wooden crates" (the 4-sided box) where the spare engine used to be. (Each of their mining car kits costs only $7.50 and if you borrow the frame, you still have a flat car kit, so this modification is basically free to the customer.) The crate is roughly 3" X 5"X1.5". The 5" length is a bit too wide and should be trimmed down to 4.25" or so, to look right hanging slightly over the sides of the Woody. That's easy to do. The 3" length juts out behind the woody, but not far enough to look odd nor interfere with coupling. Here are some pictures of the gondola's wooden crate: [url]http://www.h-l-w.com/products/Miniseries/D&RGW-Gondola-web.gif [/url]and [url]http://www.h-l-w.com/products/Miniseries/Hartland-Steel-Gondola-web.gif [/url] 3. Run all necessary wires into the Hartland "crate". 4. Fill the Hartland "crate" with electronics, and then pile the battery packs on top of the electronics. 5. Cover the overfilled box with waterproofed fabric (scale burlap?), and secure it with stained string or velcro. With this approach you'll have the following advantages: (a) Exceedingly easy access to the battery packs (b) Everything on board, no trailing battery car (c) NO modification of the lighting system (d) NO wear-n-tear on the brass lighting rod or cracking-the-roof-off hassles, (e) a completely-empty cab -- ready for the beginner to fill with authentic details like an engineer, a throttle, a lantern, tools, seat, etc. (f) a much simpler overall process for the newbie. (In fact, you could sell newbies the Hartland mining "box" full of all these goodies pre-wired, and just send instructions for running the Mack's leads to the box.) Does this sound right to you? Figure8
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