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Absolutley right Walt, absolutely and lets not forget about the same problem on curves, the overhang problem shoud not be underestimated. i could tell you a story about my area 1 that defies logic, really. Having an ok overhang going forward and the same loco had an overhang that wasn't so good going in reverse and I had to relay the whole section again; it was hitting against the down pipe of my house. <br /> <br /> <br />Regards Ian
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