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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by Marty Cozad I remember way back hearing of this "outdoor" trains. even saw a LGB loop in a yard cutting through the grass. Wondered,,WHY on earth ,so- so forth. Anyway i think you smaller loco guys are wise, I always owe on my cards. I'm so tempted by these new "monster" engines that i lust after them. (for lack of a better word) The the whole reason i even look at trains is ,,,,THE POWER,,,,, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, brut force. Even when i tell folks will limited space to run only 4 axle engines and 40ft cars so they look good. I would never live by that. Even if i could not run the engine ,I'd buy it and put it on a siding. When visitors come over the rush for me is (not their oh and ahs) its when those -9s pull the slack out of the Kadee #830s on a long heavy train ,and they strain to get the load rolling. I remember the first time I pulled 60 cars, I was sitting by the engines and you could see them squat down, bow the couplers and slip alittle,,,then move the load. MAN, this ain't NO girlly man hobby.!!!! [/quote] I too, enjoy the power of locos pulling miles of train, don't get me wrong. My dad has a sizable ranch (though moderate), if he ever gives me the go ahead, we will charter the Carrales Industrial Railroad (CIRR) and my first purchase will be a Dash-9. It will be a modern layout, while the N&MRR will be more of the steam era. You and I can laugh all the way to the poor house! [:D] But at least we will be railroad tycoons (eat your hear out, Sid Meier![:p]) Capt Carrales
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