QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole The Southern Pacific used to run what they called an "Oil Can" train of something like 76 tank cars that were permanently connected to each other through a large hose so they could be filled or emptied from one connection. Two trains ran daily, one loaded and one empty, between the port and a refinery. I think a pipeline has replaced the train now.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole The Southern Pacific used to run what they called an "Oil Can" train of something like 76 tank cars that were permanently connected to each other through a large hose so they could be filled or emptied from one connection. Two trains ran daily, one loaded and one empty, between the port and a refinery. I think a pipeline has replaced the train now. Didnt SP also run a similar train for LPG using similar tank cars? I remember seeing trains like this but they were clearly labeled as LPG tankers. Just wondering.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by train-me is there many RR run just tank cars? i run 16-19 behind my f3's i like tank cars just wondered if they run like that in real life? any help or pic's! thanks in advance.
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole The Southern Pacific used to run what they called an "Oil Can" train of something like 76 tank cars that were permanently connected to each other through a large hose so they could be filled or emptied from one connection. Two trains ran daily, one loaded and one empty, between the port and a refinery. I think a pipeline has replaced the train now. Didnt SP also run a similar train for LPG using similar tank cars? I remember seeing trains like this but they were clearly labeled as LPG tankers. Just wondering. These crude oil trains that SP ran/UP runs go from oil fields to oil refinery. They did not/do not go to a port. The original one was from Bakersfield to the Shell refinery at Carson, CA. Shell closed that refinery in 1992, then Unocal started using these. In 1996 the oil was sent from Bakersfield to Mojave via pipeline. Then in 1999, a new pipeline was built from Bakersfield to somewhere in the LA area that allowed the oil to make an all pipeline journey. Sometime in the late 1990s, Mobil started shipping crude oil via rail from Aera Energy LLC San Ardo, CA area oil fields (http://www.aeraenergy.com/WhereWeOperate/caoperations-SanArdo-wwo.htm) to its refinery at Torrance, CA. This is still unloaded in Carson and sent via pipeline to Torrance. This train still operates. With the Coast Line temporarily closed, it is detouring through here. The August 1994 issue of Trains had an article about the Bakersfield to Dolores train (BKDOU). (http://index.mrmag.com/tm.exe?opt=I&MAG=TRN&MO=8&YR=1994 http://store.yahoo.net/kalmbachcatalog/trn940801.html) Did the LPG tankcars have hoses between them? Many LPG tankcars look similar to the Oil Cans, however they have different appliances up top, are larger, and have no hoses (except for the air for brakes) between cars. I once saw a BNSF train that was composed almost entirely of LPG tankcars, about 75. However, they were just normal tankcars.
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole The Southern Pacific used to run what they called an "Oil Can" train of something like 76 tank cars that were permanently connected to each other through a large hose so they could be filled or emptied from one connection. Two trains ran daily, one loaded and one empty, between the port and a refinery. I think a pipeline has replaced the train now. Didnt SP also run a similar train for LPG using similar tank cars? I remember seeing trains like this but they were clearly labeled as LPG tankers. Just wondering. These crude oil trains that SP ran/UP runs go from oil fields to oil refinery. They did not/do not go to a port. The original one was from Bakersfield to the Shell refinery at Carson, CA. Shell closed that refinery in 1992, then Unocal started using these. In 1996 the oil was sent from Bakersfield to Mojave via pipeline. Then in 1999, a new pipeline was built from Bakersfield to somewhere in the LA area that allowed the oil to make an all pipeline journey. Sometime in the late 1990s, Mobil started shipping crude oil via rail from Aera Energy LLC San Ardo, CA area oil fields (http://www.aeraenergy.com/WhereWeOperate/caoperations-SanArdo-wwo.htm) to its refinery at Torrance, CA. This is still unloaded in Carson and sent via pipeline to Torrance. This train still operates. With the Coast Line temporarily closed, it is detouring through here. The August 1994 issue of Trains had an article about the Bakersfield to Dolores train (BKDOU). (http://index.mrmag.com/tm.exe?opt=I&MAG=TRN&MO=8&YR=1994 http://store.yahoo.net/kalmbachcatalog/trn940801.html) Did the LPG tankcars have hoses between them? Many LPG tankcars look similar to the Oil Cans, however they have different appliances up top, are larger, and have no hoses (except for the air for brakes) between cars. I once saw a BNSF train that was composed almost entirely of LPG tankcars, about 75. However, they were just normal tankcars. I remember there being a pipe-like fitting between them but I remember the cars had distict labels on the side stating "warning: liquified petrolium gas only" This was several years ago, it was not a flexable hose, but made up of rigid pipe sections with flexible joints. there was an elbow joint at the top of the tank at each end, that elbow then had a pipe esction that connected each car to the other. I always thought it was so the cars could be loaded and unloaded shipside from an LPG tanker in one go and to allow pressure to be equalized over the lenth of the train. I'm not an expert on these types of trains, maybe I'm confusing them with something else. Is it possible I'm confusung LPG with a Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) train?
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith Eric, those are not the ones I saw.
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