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Posted by pennytrains on Friday, May 27, 2022 9:04 AM

"I don't know who said 'A little knowledge is a dangerous thing'" said Red Green!  But I'm sure they were a toy train collector!  Laugh

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, May 27, 2022 10:59 AM

pennytrains

OK.  I'm even more confused now!  I pulled out Doyle's Standard Catalog and both the 675 and 2025 were 2-6-2's when they had Baldwin drivers.  Both got sintered iron wheels in 52 when they became 2-6-4's.  So, now I think someone did exactly what I would like to do.  They switched the drivers for the better looking wheels!  Is anything magnetized?  That should cinch it.

 

That's a good question!  But I won't be checking for magnetized wheels anytime soon, as of this time (11:55 AM) it's deluging outside and I can't get to the Chugger Barn without getting drownded!  Lightning

Swapping the drivers seems to me like it'd be more trouble than it's worth but you never know, do you? 

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Posted by Swiss-Colorado-Lines on Friday, May 27, 2022 11:06 AM

Many times people have trouble discerning when I'm joking, and when I'm serious....

I could never be a Serious train collector Clown

but seriously folks....

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, May 27, 2022 5:51 PM

OK, more on the continuing saga of my Blockbuster 2035.

No Magne-Traction on this one.  So, I'm wondering if I've got a rare variation (unlikely) OR if someone in the past did a motor and driver assembly swap, which is more likely.   Hmm

Doesn't matter to me at any rate, it's a good runner and puller and I'm more than happy with it!  And that's all that matters, right?

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Posted by pennytrains on Friday, May 27, 2022 6:41 PM

Swiss-Colorado-Lines

Many times people have trouble discerning when I'm joking, and when I'm serious....

I could never be a Serious train collector Clown

but seriously folks....

 

I know what you mean.  When I referred to knowledge being dangerous I was referring to myself.  Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Swiss-Colorado-Lines on Friday, May 27, 2022 9:47 PM

Flint,

I have 2 2025's('47 version), and 2 2035's. They are all great pullers! The '35's have more bite on steel tubular track, but stainless I imagine they would be identical. These engines are so similar,I imagine someone just swapped out the entire motor, doesn't seem like it would be any trouble at all.

 You're very lucky: you've got a 2035 with a nice set of custom rims.....

Paul

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Posted by Swiss-Colorado-Lines on Friday, May 27, 2022 9:52 PM

Becky,

people that know me sometimes don't believe me when I'm playing it straight. Although my daughter can always sus it out when I'm joking by the mischievous twinkle in my eye....

 I can't make it stop....

Paul

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Posted by Leverettrailfan on Friday, May 27, 2022 11:16 PM

 My dad has been doing well, teaching me the ropes of being silly. I can't turn it off either...

I couldn't post last time I wanted, but the 681 is up and running, and she runs beautifully! I'm still working out the smoker, I need some different wire I think, the wire I have doesn't seem to want to heat up in the pellet unit, even with barely any turns, I think I need a heavier gauge wire. Anyone know what it should be? I think I can probably find and measure some original wire, in theory... I tried to patch the unit up by pulling apart the element of a trashed 6110 but that hasn't panned out. Still, smoker aside she's in great shape. I put her through some paces entertaining my little cousins earlier tonight and everything seemed to go well. I have a feeling that I may have just found myself my new favorite engine to run Big Smile
At least my favorite steamer. I really love my 2321 FM, that thing's a real pleasure for the sheer pulling power it has, combined with the cool, quiet ease with which it just walks away with anything I put behind it. But the 681? It's got the same wow-factor for me. It doesn't growl like a monster, and yet it doesn't mess around, it really can pull. No slouch for a single-motor loco. The rumors were true!

-Ellie

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, May 28, 2022 8:46 AM

Leverettrailfan
I'm still working out the smoker, I need some different wire I think, the wire I have doesn't seem to want to heat up in the pellet unit,

Just a couple of quick checks Ellie.  First off, make sure the lead wire to the smoke units heating element is connected to where the wire from the pick-up rollers connects to the e-unit. If it's on the wrong side it won't get enough voltage to heat up properly.  I made that mistake myself, and you don't know who's been inside your 681 in the past and what they might have done in there.

Second, make sure the heating element's grounded properly. If there's corrosion or gunk build-up in the smoke unit pot where the copper grounding tab meets the pot that'll cause the heating element to fail to heat up, I've seen that too. 

 

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Posted by Swiss-Colorado-Lines on Saturday, May 28, 2022 9:02 AM

Ellie,

great news about the 681! That turned out well! Be careful what you wish for:

I had to give it a break. Had all my best smokers running in the train room. It was too much! Put the non smokers out for a while.
Sometimes it is good to have a few engines around that Don't smoke....

Paul

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Posted by pennytrains on Saturday, May 28, 2022 10:15 AM

Swiss-Colorado-Lines

Becky,

people that know me sometimes don't believe me when I'm playing it straight. Although my daughter can always sus it out when I'm joking by the mischievous twinkle in my eye....

 I can't make it stop....

Paul

 

Me neither!  Laugh  I've stuck my foot in it more times than I can remember!  Laugh

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Posted by pennytrains on Saturday, May 28, 2022 10:21 AM

Swiss-Colorado-Lines

Ellie,

great news about the 681! That turned out well! Be careful what you wish for:

I had to give it a break. Had all my best smokers running in the train room. It was too much! Put the non smokers out for a while.
Sometimes it is good to have a few engines around that Don't smoke....

Paul

 

I've got the opposite problem since I moved.  I had 10 and now I only have 3 that are so equipped.  Unless you count my American Flyer 3195.  But if you want to get technical it's not SUPPOSED to smoke...Wink

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, May 28, 2022 11:48 AM

pennytrains
But if you want to get technical it's not SUPPOSED to smoke...

Hmmmm, yeah.  Kind of like when my 736 started smoking out of places it wasn't supposed to!  Surprise

A wacky e-unit problem I was able to fix.  Whew.

About the only time I don't want smoke is under the Christmas tree.  The engines pulling the trains are smoke off, sound off.  I only want the visual dynamics.

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Posted by Leverettrailfan on Saturday, May 28, 2022 5:46 PM

Wayne, using the 40 AWG Nichrome 80 wire I just wasn't getting more than a very meager output of smoke. This was even outside the housing, just connecting leads to either end of the wire and putting a drop of smoke fluid on the element. It just wasn't getting hot enough.

I'm wondering if it's a case of the wire being too small to carry enough current? What's the "correct" stuff anyway... the issue with using the wire from the 6110 was that I couldn't straighten it out enough that it wouldn't present issues, I couldn't get tight, precise turns on it so it was impossible to avoid some of the turns touching eachother. It smoked way too well. Paul, it was too much smoke for me too. I love my flyer locomotives that puff smoke, but they smoke very well so I can't overdo it. Most of my Lionel locomotives with pellet units don't smoke, or smoke poorly. Eventually I'll attend to all of them.

-Ellie

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, May 28, 2022 6:52 PM

Ellie, I can't tell you what kind of nichrome wire to use, I'm at a loss.

However, I've got a spare pellet smoke unit rebuild kit from Henning's, if you'd like it you can have it.  My e-mail's in my profile, just give me an address to send it to. 

I've used the Henning's rebuild kits in the past and they work just fine.  No instructions come with them but they're easy to figure out.

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Posted by Leverettrailfan on Monday, May 30, 2022 7:53 PM

Gosh, that's awful generous of you! I'd happily take you up on the offer. I'll be sure to send a video after all's said and done so you can see it at work Big Smile
I should really buy a few, but I have a lot of locomotives and I have a hard time deciding what to buy first and when. I wish it was possible to buy pellet smokers as "roll your own", but I haven't seen anyone selling just the mica and ceramic parts so I will have to buy kits. 
For me the appeal of not buying assemblies, but just the parts, is that it saves me a few bucks, and I get to enjoy the challenge of putting more stuff together! It's a big win-win for me (Though I will admit that currently, E-Units are still some of my least favorite things to put back together)

-Ellie

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Posted by Swiss-Colorado-Lines on Thursday, June 2, 2022 3:52 PM

Although I have seen a lot of trouble.....

right now I am enjoying the fruits of my labor. Everything running properly. Rotating Lionel engines, running some that haven't been run in quite a while. I have decided that I like the Look of the '47 2025, but like the muscle of the 2035. Rotated cars also. Off with the operating dump and log cars, out with the bright colorful cars.It's a nice change.

I still have more repairs: pick up wires on an N gauge diesel. A broken wire on a Marx searchlight car. Cracked pick up wires on the 2055's tender.

But I have enough stuff running properly to keep me busy...

Paul

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