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Posted by AF53 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:38 AM

Good Morning All!

Cloudy and a 50% chance of something, just don't know what yet. My guess is a mix.

Kev - Don't mess around with what the doctors recommend. They know more than you or me. Just be glad you're ok.

As I type it just started to snow so, HudsonJohn, I hope you serviced that splitter by now, or you're in the garage.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:24 AM

Redfires197,

 

Man, where to start?

Well, when I push down on the whistle button on my RW, it starts to work, but then everything just kinda quits. After that, I don't get any kind of response from the tender, locomotive, cars if I have passenger cars, and the transformer's light comes on. I'm thinking that there might be a short somewhere in the system, and don't feel comfortable rebuilding the relay. It is a 6466W, my 6466WX and 2466WX work well with the RW.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:47 AM

Lehigh Valley 2089
I don't get any kind of response from the tender, locomotive, cars if I have passenger cars, and the transformer's light comes on. I'm thinking that there might be a short somewhere in the system, and don't feel comfortable rebuilding the relay.

From what you describe I wouldn't be at all surprised if the relay IS what's shorting out and tripping your overload/short indicator. One of my friends had a similar problem with a Lionel whistling tender. He decided he could live without the whistle and pulled the relay and other pieces out and that was the end of that.

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Posted by KRM on Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:54 AM

Jake with my old RW you had to find the sweet spot on the botton of it to work.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:21 PM

Well this morning I got decoder in the CN C420 changed out. It now has a Digitrax DZ125. This loco is one of my Frankenlocos and as such it's an unusual looking thing. It's a Lima C420 body on a Stewart AS16 frame resting on Proto 2000 FA1 trucks that have Athearn blue box worms and shaft couplings. It's powered by an Athearn motor with hex flywheels. I made the drive shafts by gluing pieces of hex shafts into pieces of blue box shafts. Originally the steps of the Lima loco were part of the trucks. I cut them off of the trucks and super glued them to the bottom of the body shell. So looking at the front and rear of the loco there's no pilot facings, just the coupler with the steps to either side.

As an additional project I installed body mounted Kadee 148 couplers on a metal framed Mantua tank car.



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Posted by Hudson#685 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:26 PM

Good Afternoon! A mix of snow and rain here, like the Chief said, black ice later.

AF53, Ray, I just started to uncover it when it started snowing. Tomorrow or Monday is another day. So I cleaned the turtle tank in the rec room, stoked the fire and had lunch, left over Trenton style pizza from the Shady Rest! Playing with , umm I mean working on my trains. I may work on the inventory or just have fun! I decided to work on Doray to make the 646 and passenger cars a birthday present, after I check them out throughly. I started on her this morning before she left to open the store. We have to take a ride down there in the near future.

Jake: I have had problems with the whistles/horns with my Lionels since I could remember. There are many factors and I found that one may work well with a particular transformer and another will not. Sometimes on a layout you have to do like Kevin said, to find the sweet spot. Push the button a little at a time until the whistle sounds. I found that sometimes pushing it all the way will do like you described. I found that with my RW, LW, 1033, TW and ZW Transformers and different layouts and track, Diesel Engines and tenders. Good luck.

Enjoy the afternoon!

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Posted by Hudson#685 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:30 PM

Jake, I missed the part where the transformer light comes on. Sometimes mine will either speed up or the E unit will shift to neutral. I would check it out deeper like Jim said. Let us know how you make out.

John

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Posted by KRM on Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:42 PM

Hudson#685

Jake, I missed the part where the transformer light comes on. Sometimes mine will either speed up or the E unit will shift to neutral. I would check it out deeper like Jim said. Let us know how you make out.

John

 LV Jake, Like John I too missed the part where the light comes on. Now that is a problem.Bang Head Hmm

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Posted by RedfireS197 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:52 PM

Jake,

           That's a tough one.  I think we can rule out the whistle controller in your RW since other whistles work with it.  The first thing I would do at this point is to test the whistle by itself.  Disconnect the one wire from the field to the relay and connect it to one transformer post, then connect the wire from the other transformer post to the terminal on the brushplate where the wires to the rollers are soldered. Those wires can be left alone for this test.  If the motor runs, we can turn to the relay next.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:05 PM

RedfireS197

Jake,

           That's a tough one.  I think we can rule out the whistle controller in your RW since other whistles work with it.  The first thing I would do at this point is to test the whistle by itself.  Disconnect the one wire from the field to the relay and connect it to one transformer post, then connect the wire from the other transformer post to the terminal on the brushplate where the wires to the rollers are soldered. Those wires can be left alone for this test.  If the motor runs, we can turn to the relay next.

I think that the problem is actually very simple for some reason. I just tested the 6466W alone, and it worked well. However, I found that it seemed to work too well, since the whistle didn't go quiet after I released the whistle button. However, it stopped a second after I released the button. I then put on the work bench to see what the heck was happening, and the relay switch seemed to like to "hang in there" or just not move up and complete the circuit, causing what I described earlier. So lack of cleaning and lubing appears to be the reason why it isn't always working. I've already cleaned the motor, so I know that wasn't it.

Sometimes it bothers like I explained, sometimes it works perfectly. Maybe there's an intermittent short somewhere in the tender. I haven't found one, but will keep looking.

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Posted by jonadel on Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:08 PM

Pat -- I just got home and saw your current post re: Reverse Mortgages.  I'll try and reply tomorrow, not promising, and if I don't it will be Tuesday, super busy time of year for me and I don't want to give you just a Readers Digest answer.  It can be a many faceted option and I just don't want to spew out generalities.  Would you want me to just send a PM when I get a chance?  The answer to your question will come from an expert who has seen both sides and will provide objective answers.

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Posted by wrconstruction on Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:33 PM

Hudson John, those stories about your friends and retirement are sad. 

And John, if you ever get over "this way" It would be a pleasure for my wife and I meet you and your wife at Shady Maple. 

Kev, I have Family in South Carolina, and when they get 1" of snow., it really is an all out state wide emergency. 

spent the afternoon at my LHS did some trading, my woodland scenic's bike shop finally came in, I traded a ton of William's stuff from a auction I went to for different William's stuff.   

Also stayed and BS'd over a sixer of Beer  I LOVE my LHS   where else can you shop and drink Beer other than the internet ?   (all the owner asks is when a customer with kids comes in you go to the back with your Beer

Wife and neighbor ladies went to BINGO, not sure what to do tonight, we had a MASSIVE crash on the layout sending a trailer train and William's loco to the concrete floor. I think it's ok.

spent the Am painting, almost done (one color just doesn't seem to want cover the other on the trim , so I decided on a third coat. I want it right, as this is it for 10 to 15 years)

That's all for now

Ryan

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Posted by rtraincollector on Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:33 PM

Well came home early again had the stomach problems again but by the events of today I would of anyway as about 3 the wife discovers we have no heat ( worked great this am) Bang Head of coarse it was in the 70's the other day tonight going to be around 28 lucky I had one electric heater went and got another for tonight and tomorrow. Angry

Not much else going on there might be some good out of all this and that being ( depending on the cost) having a duct run into the den which has no heat or air except the electric heater I had and a window A/C unit I put in and out daily. be a back saver and it would give me the ability to do a full 8' X 16' layout had to cut 2 1/2 feet of the length because of putting A/C in and out.

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Posted by sir james I on Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:07 PM

Temp is 23 and some lite snow showers this afternoon caused accidents all over the freeways. Most said the road was clear and then they drove into a snow squall. Granny is bowling so I get to watch over two grandsons till she gets home tonight. Everything should be OK as I have plenty of duct tape. Heck I might even share some banilla with them...S.J.

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Posted by SPMan on Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:33 PM

Lazy Saturday here.  Went for a walk earlier since it's still nice and warm  Ran trains after that for about an hour and played some music in the train room.  On one of my traditional jazz records there is a song called "Hey engineer".  I get a kick out of it with lyrics like" Hey engineer is this train going South, then for God's sake turn it around."  Must have been written by some Yankee no doubt.  However there is also a line in there about "singing songs about Jersey where the big fat tomatoes grow."

I have been musing over what to do with my MTH bad order ACL E6 A-B-A units if I don't want to fix them up.  I think I could sell them for maybe a couple hundred bucks to someone who wants to put in new boards or whatever it needs.  The B units were not sold as a separate item so that alone ought to be worth that much to someone who wants to make an A-B-B-A.  The units have four motors, two in each A unit and a dummy B.  I think I paid around $699 for these when they were new.

RT, hope your stomach ache is better.

Got news yesterday that a lady we know in church social group age 90 had a stroke yesterday.  Her daughter found her on the floor at home in the morning.  She is in the hospital now and is paralyzed according to her close friend and next door neighbor.  No visitors now.  Does not sound good.  We just had dinner with her and our group on Tuesday and saw her at church on Ash Wednesday the day before the stroke.  She had a less severe stroke a while back and she told her frineds that she was ready to go whenever it came.  She does not want any extraordinary measures to keep her alive. Sad!

Got a call from a sister in Virginia yesterday.  She has a cancerous obstruction in the colon which they are trying to shrink with chemo and radiation.  She is going to have a consultation with the surgeon soon.  Sister in North Carolina is still doing good with cancer in remission still after 16 months.  She has benefited from a lot of prayer.  Thank you all for that.  She is still enjoying a good quality of life.

Have to figure out what to cook for dinner tonight.  Might go for ham and eggs.  We have some smoked ham slices from Costco and some extra large eggs.  Might go good with some home fries.

Note to the Chief, I found some water ground corn meal out here recently which is hard to find in California.  Good stuff for fried cornbread, hush puppies and breading fish etc.  We used to get some from Rocky Mount, North Carolina in the old days made by Webb's Mill in New Hope.  Wonder if they are still around?

Sleep tight, don't bite the bed bugs or something like that.

Ray

 

 

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Posted by Hudson#685 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:34 PM

Good Evening all:

Started inventory of steamers and tenders this afternoon. I would run and check it over. I had 2 crates as I would wrap them and put them into a repair/service crate if any work had to be done and the other if all was fine. I started this book with service dates, condition and if any repairs are needed. I actually had a 6026W tender start smoking when I attempted to sound the whistle. I purchased this one with a 665 very reasonable. The 665 has a gear problem that I knew about when I bought it. I have a "few spare reconditioned units"  that I intended to install when I bought it. This unit must have been rode hard and put back wet a number of times, but there is not a mark in either body. Good lousy weather project.

LV, Jake, glad that you found the problem. I thought about you as I was working on mine.

Ryan: We do get out your way every so often. My son and I go to the events at the Rough and Tumble Museum in Kinzers and of course Strassburg. My wife comes out with us in July during John Deere Days at the R&T, for she goes to a scrapbook convention in Lancaster. We also take day trips out there. We will be glad to meet up with you. I like your LHS. That story about Gene is unbelievable. I knew him for 39 years and nothing he did surprised me. He loved showing off and being a victim of his own stupidity and looking for sympathy. He was very jealous of the other guys.

RT: I hope you get well soon and your heat/cooling problem is solved. 

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Posted by Hudson#685 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:43 PM

SJ: Watch out for the grandsons may sneak up on you and eat all of the banilla!

SPMan, Ray prayers for your sisters and the 90 year ols stroke victim. Add hush puppies with the ham and eggs and I may join you for dinner. Dinner

John

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Posted by rtraincollector on Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:02 PM

Forgot to mention the food service Chief has decided we don't need to serve grits anymore ( now remember I'm in the heart of the south and thats the main staple down here) fellow workers are having a fit saying the patients will go Thur the roof your in the south here.

Chief you may need to come down here and straighten this matter out.

Buckeye and blue berry I did my part getting rid of the grits here

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Posted by wrconstruction on Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:37 PM

How do you southerners eat your grits? salt and butter?

up north here, we put sugar or maple syrup on them, its my understanding you'll get your butt kicked if you do that down south?

we don't eat boiled peanuts either

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:47 PM

wrconstruction
How do you southerners eat your grits? salt and butter?

My father likes his with honey and butter. I can't stand 'em no matter how they're prepared.

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Well if you recall about a month back I dropped my Nikon L20 camera and broke the battery door latch. Obviously this presented a problem as the door wouldn't stay closed. A temporary solution was to use a piece of tape to hold it closed. This worked short term as the adhesive wouldn't hold for long and the tape had to be changed anyway when the SD card was inserted or removed. I toyed with several ideas on how to fix this inexpensively (as in as close to $0 as possible) but they all required tools I don't possess. Well being the ingenious redneck that I am I continued to mull over the problem and today I came up with a solution that would work, didn't cost anything and was so simple I don't know why I didn't think of it before. I cut the handle off an old spoon and made a clamp. It just slides on and off the end of the camera, doesn't require adhesives and it doesn't get in the way.



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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:49 PM

Jeff: Genius! I have a Game Boy Advance from Nintendo that has a broken battery hatch. Been using masking tape on it for years............that piece of tape may be 5 years old.

Getting late. Had too many mega stuffed Oreos. Feeling a little sick right now. Ick!

Night everyone.

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Posted by submmbob on Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:56 PM

Hello all

Went down to the 'big city' today (Safford) to get some groceries. Also picked up a waffle maker from WallyWorld. Going to try making them instead of just toasting frozen ones.

Absolutely no action on the Arizona Eastern today. Not even a maintenance of way car. Not surprising though as they only have a few trains thru a week. I think their main yard is up the road in Globe.

Kev - glad your back in the swing of things.

Jake - I have a spare whistle motor and relay if you need it. It works but the relay bracket is broken. Perhaps you could make one good one out of two?

SPRay - thoughts and prayers for your sister and friend

RT - try and stay warm. Hope the train room 'addition' works out for you

Buckeye - direct hit! Fire for effect!!

When I drove to town a young woman came up to me and said "sir? there is something leaking from your truck..." I thanked her and told her it was snow...Big Smile

Ordered a subscription to OGR for a change. Haven't had anything since I moved and am getting bored when I go down to the kitchen to eat. Hope they find my PO box. The last few issues of CTT didn't make it. Better be careful here, if I go a mention a MI railroad my post may get deleted...Whistling

We have 6 people (including me) in the control room right now. Too darn many. Since everybody has a laptop there are ethernet cables everywhere (no wireless at a radio telescope). But they said they'd feed me dinnerDinner

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:03 PM

Bob, will get back to you if I find the need for a new relay. For now, I'll try to see if I can get it to work. Since there's a train show in Scranton soon, I'll check there and see if there's anything. If not, again , I'll get back to you. So far, I think I may be able to get it to work.

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Posted by submmbob on Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:13 PM

Jake

Your welcome to this one if you need it. I'm not really into the sound of the PW whistles so this is one that got pulled from a 2224W.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:15 PM

Got a little cleanup work done on the layout today. I was digging through a box of old stuff today and found a couple of decoders. A DH123 and an old Lenz decoder, model unknown. All it has on it is HND SL1 49/02. I clipped a 9-pin harness on it and tested it and it tests as good. The DH123 was toast. So at this time I have a Bachmann 44913 decoder, two Digitrax decoders (DH123, DZ125) and the unidentified Lenz decoder.

Well it's time to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.



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Posted by Demay on Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:14 AM

Konnichiwa,

Thanks for the well wishes for my kids; they are much better today.  The Princess is still going to remain indoors today to be safe, but the older boy is playing outside full throttle.  We were all well enough to attend Sunday school and church this morning.  We grabbed some McDonald’s for lunch which is always a great treat.  Even folks who don’t like McDonald’s in the U.S. love it here in Japan.  The wife will be home this evening so I will be relaxing by myself this afternoon. 

Dennis – I’m glad to see all is well.  It’s hard to believe it’s already been six months.

Kev – Good for your daughter.  I’m sure you’ll sleep better too. Laugh

John – Did you come back with any new acquisitions?  Your story about saving is so true.   Too many people neglect to use automatic deduction and miss out on a great opportunity to build a nice nest egg without missing those few dollars.  I hear some high schools are providing students basic financial planning courses – that’s a great thing.  My two older kids earn a commission (we don’t like the word allowance) and I immediately deduct a percentage to deposit into their savings accounts; they don’t miss it.  They also have to save a small percentage on their own and give a small percentage to the church.  They can spend whatever is left over after a three-day waiting period.  This may sound ridiculous but we believe we are planting some seeds to teach them to save, give, and to avoid instant gratification.  If only more adults could live by these principals. 

Bob – The wife has been contemplating buying a waffle maker as well.  I’m sure they will taste better than the frozen ones. 

It’s time to read the paper and do the crossword puzzle.

Sayonara,

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Posted by Brutus on Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:37 AM

Today we all went to see movies.  My daughter and her friend went to see Beautiful Creatures, while my son and his friend went with Charlene and I to see the new Die Hard movie.  It was more like a Bourne movie with John McClane added in for comic relief?  It was good, but just not a Die Hard movie.  Later, we watched Iron Fists on bluray, and it was really great but bloody!  Pat - one of my Grandmothers had a reverse mortgage.  I don't really know the details about the money, but I do know that eventually the house was sold and she moved in with my Aunt and Uncle.  TARDIS is ready, so let's go!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:31 AM

Brutus
my son and his friend went with Charlene and I to see the new Die Hard movie.  It was more like a Bourne movie with John McClane added in for comic relief?  It was good, but just not a Die Hard movie.

Yeah. I heard from a friend (a film critic) that it was all action at the beginning then slow thereafter. Definitely not a typical Die-Hard. His advice was to bring your pillow and alarm clock.

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:06 AM

Good Morning from Blueberryhill RR....

It is a cold 18 degrees. Got a little snow last night. Going up to 30 today.  Did anyone else get any snow ??WhistlingSmile, Wink & Grin.

Today is an easy day. I will do a few chores and then I'll spend a few hours in the train room. Run trains and work on a project.  Then, lunch and a nice nap.

Dining car is here with Cheerios for breakfast.

Y'all have a great Sunday.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:22 AM

Good morning. It's 37°F with 81% humidity. It'll be sunny with a high of 65°F.


More layout cleanup on tap assuming I don't get side tracked by something/someone else. I'm also contemplating some light outdoor work. The drawers and other pieces ripped out of my kitchen cabinet last year are still laying out in the yard. Maybe it's high time I get them down to the burn pile. Such things are known to attract scorpions, snakes and any number of pests.


 

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