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DISNEYLAND PHASE II

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, May 7, 2012 7:35 PM

POTC is structurally complete:

And a strange shaped building it is!

Becky

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Posted by rtraincollector on Sunday, May 6, 2012 10:02 PM

Looking great as normal

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:37 PM

Here's the Enchanted Tiki Room:

Also moving right along is the Pirates of the Carribean building:

The POTC will be an odd one.  It will back up to the base of the Christmas tree so it will have a very complicated profile beyond the tower and the 2 walls shown here.  The roof will come up and over the tree stand and the 2 "walls" at the corners of the curve will follow the profile of the stand.  Not a good stand alone structure to say the least!  Smile, Wink & Grin

More to come!

Becky

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Posted by Penny Trains on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:58 PM

I did some doodling today

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Some new buildings for Tomorrowland.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:52 PM

looking good Penny enjoy looking at all your post and work. thanks for sharing

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, April 23, 2012 7:40 PM

TESTING DAY AT LAST!!!  [:D]

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Today I wrapped up the process of manufacturing the "add-on" parts, so it was time to see how she would fly!

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As you might imagine, the first thing she actually did was derail!  Laugh  But the problem was easy to diagnose.  She's just too light.  So with the addition of some washers one at a time at key points, I finally got the weight right.

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Now that she's holding the rail decently, I'll weigh up the washers, sinkers and other bits I used today on a postage scale and get some proper weights.

I also came up with a short list of proposed projects for this year:

  1. Monorail
  2. Disneyland Hotel
  3. New station for Frontierland
  4. Better Tomorrowland buildings
  5. Better Fantasyland buildings
  6. Matterhorn Bobsleds
  7. Skyway
  8. Parking lot tram
  9. Big Thunder Mountain station
  10. Keel boat for the Rivers of America
  11. Liberty Square
  12. Small World improvements
  13. More gardens and topiaries
  14. Enchanted Tiki Room
  15. Pirates of the Carribean
  16. Pavement
  17. More lighting

And something I never heard of till late last year.  #18. There was a tram/bus styled like a San Francisco cable car that ran between Disneyland and the Howard Johnson's Motor Lodge.  So I bought a Testors 1:48 cable car kit on Ebay and I'm going to recreate this little known piece of Disneyland history too!  Big Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 23, 2012 6:45 PM

Becky,

              This is very impressive.  I really like how you've thought out all the details instead of using my approach and just digging into the project.Smile  I can't wait to see the end result.

As for filling the gaps, auto body filler would be my first choice.  Keep each coat of filler thin though.  If it is applied too thick, it will crack and fall away.  It is easy to work with.  The filler can be used to fill in areas that have been pitted by rust once the rust is removed.

 

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Posted by 8ntruck on Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:21 PM

Looking good.

Going to be impressive when it is done.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:17 PM

Thanks guys!  Big Smile

Today I added the rest of the "trucks" and did most of the metalwork for car #5, the caboose or tail car.

QUESTION:  Because of my construction techniques, .019 sheet aluminum with strips of coca cola can hot glued to the seams from the rear, some small gaps will need to be filled.  What should I use?  Some of the gaps will be between the aluminum and the original steel carbody, but they'll be the minority, most of the gaps are just hairlines between the seams on the aluminum parts.  Would modelers contour putty hold?  Or should I use an automotive body filler?  I've never used either, so any suggestions and guidance would be most welcome!  Big Smile

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Posted by rtraincollector on Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:31 PM

looking great to me thanks for sharing

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:20 PM

More construction photos:

All 5 of the cars had issues from fatal dents to fatal rusting.

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The best car (not shown) is the locomotive shell while the worst (on the bottom and most heavily dented) will be the caboose.  Car #2 is on top here and will receive the circuit board.  Also, the top and bottom cars in the pile have the brass "trucks" I'm making to replace the original wheels.  These are fast axles with their points ground off.  The Marx axles went through the sides of the car so I had to remove them anyways in order to install the skirting.

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Some of the nose was a bit too complex for me to fold in .019 aluminum, so I baked in some Sculpey instead.  This is the nose of the caboose which I worked on today.

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The pinkish track is the projected route for the Monorail.  I decided after much fiddling to stick with O31.  With O42 I could only do a "grand circle tour" following the steam train almost exactly, which would have looked a bit dumb.  O54 and O72 couldn't fit without crossing in front of the castle, which also wouldn't do.  O31 was the only radius I could adequately turn, especially inside Tomorrowland which is where the largest percentage of Monorail track is at Disneyland.  It started there in 1959 after the Viewliner (57 - 58) was removed and was later extended past the Main Street Station to the Disneyland Hotel.  So it made sense to have it pass the main gate (and maybe I'll build the hotel too!  Smile, Wink & Grin)

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The only problem with O31 is with the side skirting.  I'll have to cut it down a bit vertically to keep it above the railhead.  Also, because the motor has a short wheelbase and because it's mounted ahead of center in the lead unit (on the left), there's a much larger gap between it and the rest of the cars on curves.  But hey, that's why I'm working on it in April rather than October!  Smile, Wink & Grin

Well, that's all for today!  One of these days I need to get my Thai layout put together that was supposed to be up by February!  Laugh

Becky

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Posted by wrmcclellan on Friday, April 20, 2012 9:32 PM

Becky,

That is just way too much fun! Looking forward to the finished product!

Regards, Roy

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Posted by KRM on Friday, April 20, 2012 6:15 PM

Becky,

 I can't wait to see it done. SOOOOO Cool!!

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Posted by SantaFe158 on Friday, April 20, 2012 3:10 PM

I'll admit, when you mentioned turning those cars into a "monorail" train, i couldn't picture it.  But you appear to have a great plan and a great start on them :)

Can't wait to see it finished.  It already looks great.

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Posted by Seayakbill on Friday, April 20, 2012 7:26 AM

Very neat project, when finished could be a real conversation piece.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:59 PM

Okay mistro that looks great as usual. all you do is impress us more each time you come and we enjoy it so don't take anything wrong please keep coming with this great work you do.

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DISNEYLAND PHASE II
Posted by Penny Trains on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:27 PM

OK y'all, here we go again!

First up for the 2012 enhancements is the project I most wanted for last year but couldn't finish.  The Monorail system!  Big Smile  OK, it's hard to call one train a system and this one won't be straddling a concrete beam so the term "monorail" isn't accurate either.  But with that out of the way, it's time to have fun!

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After much prototyping, I arrived at a final workable shape which could be translated into 2 dimensional parts.

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Using carbon paper, I transferred the patterns to .016 alluminum sheets from K & S.

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I don't know how to solder, so I used a different method for assembly.  The joints are backed by thin strips of Coca Cola can hot glued accross the joints.  Works well enough.  In this photo you can see the top part of the bulkhead which gives me a large flat surface for gluing the nose section to the Marx carbody.  The bulkhead is made from aluminum and aside from the curved section at the top which helps close the hole left for the pivot point, follows the shape of the carbody rather than that of the nose section.  It's backed by thick styrene and has a hole near the bottom for a screw to the motor.

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The motor is from a Lionel 2-4-0 of the early 90's and is DC.  There is a circuit board that will end up in car #2 and the tether has no problem passing between one car and the next.  The side skirting comes down to just barely above the rim of the wheels though they won't be attached till final assembly after the stripping.  If you look closely at the door, you can see the mounting tabs for the bulkhead.  The front section is permanently mounted to the bulkhead by use of another styrene panel.  On the bottom there's a screw that attaches to the motor through the bulkhead and there's one other screw topside for the motor.

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All cars coupled with the paper protopattern doing the honors of the caboose.  Due to size issues on the layout, and because of the need for wide curvature to keep these articulated cars on the rails, it's doubtful that the train will ever see a straight tangent in regular service.  Ideally I should use O54 but I'm considering O42 which would give me more leeway.  I won't know until I finish rebuilding the RealTrax Railware track diagram I lost in a computer crash back in December.  Of course I'd like to give the train as long a run as possible, but the room is only so big!  Laugh

So what about those rails?  Well, it would be most accurate to call this an elevated track system rather than a monorail.  And here's what I have in mind.

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A flat platform made of luan plywood (it's what I have on hand in a large quantity) screwed into the top of a 3/8" square basswood dowell.  Topside I'll use thin strips of something, maybe styrene, to help conceal the railhead and assist in derail prevention.  My best guess is that this train will need to travel 8 inches off the ground and being a permanently coupled train if one part goes down the whole consist goes down!  Tongue Tied  Not too good when your primary building material is paper!  Tongue Tied  The bases will be covered with simple cardstock triangles but packed with clay to make the pylons as heavy as possible.

Well, that's where we're at at the moment.  I'll be cutting the aluminum soon for the rear end which will need a whole different treatment than the front since that end of the train is round.  Then comes the stripping and fianl assembly before a nice glossy coat of white with a red stripe down the side.

Also on the drawing board are the skyway system, bobsleds for the Matterhorn and better buildings in several key areas.  I also need more people and a rigid base.  Lots to do this summer!

Becky

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