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Posted by Dr. John on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:45 PM
I am still a member of the OGR forum and have always been treated warmly and with respect even though I am a toy train "low-railer". Sure, there were occasional flames, but often they were self-inflicted.
I joined this forum to interact with more O gaugers and because I am undecided on whether or not I will pay the $18.00 OGR forum fee. But then, that's ANOTHER story!
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Posted by MartyE on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:43 PM
I feel welcomed now.[%-)] I say tounge in cheek.

I model or try to anyways both. My layout contains the whimsical Lionel Gateman to trying Hi Rail looks as well. Why can't both be discussed here?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:36 PM
THOR--Of course you didn't have problems with OGR---you were not an outcast! Neil has gotten a letter from me about these new arrivals. We don't need problems here. This is a family friendly site and a TOY TRAIN forum! If you only like prototypical scale modeling, please go elsewhere because the trains we run here have Clifford the Big Red Dog on them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:28 PM
Can't we all just get along in this hobby?? I'm tired of hearing all the complaints about the different manufacturers and people's preferences of different gauges. We're all in it just to have fun and help eachother in solving problems, and sharing ideas. Let's not criticize eachother for their preferences, whether G gauge to Z gauge. If you enjoy what you run, that's all that counts.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:02 PM
Give it a rest, this is a GREAT FORUM WITH GREAT MEMBERS!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:52 PM
To quote a famous OGR member, "After all, they're only toys!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:35 PM
Well, I haven't seen any of that here and I hope that I never will! I'm glad to see all the new members coming here from the OGR forums. I'm sure many of them will become active members and make important contributions. I myself am a collector of prewar and postwar toy trains of all different manufacturers (both American and foreign) and run a layout that is built in the classic tinplate style. I don't have any problem at all with the hirail, scale, TMCC or DCS guys. I enjoy the diversity that there is in the toy train hobby.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:01 PM
All I can say is I think you're wrong, Martin. I have found no evidence of that attitude on the OGR forum. And it saddens me that someone would actually post something like that about other people.

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Posted by FJ and G on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:32 PM
Ooops. Forgot to mention. I'm Dave Vergun
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Posted by FJ and G on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:31 PM
I haven't really seen much of a problem on any train forum anyplace; and if so, it is very rare.

I think it is kinda cool to get into some passionate arguments about trains as long as you are not bashing the person. I'm pretty laid back myself and don't get too passionate about anything except for my beer and women.
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Posted by cnw1995 on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:26 PM
I must say I never have experienced that sort of reaction on OGR's forum; and I'm a relative newbie with an 027 train set and a love for old Lionel and Marx.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:20 PM
Utterly ridiculous!

I do not own TMCC or DCS (tried the, hated them), I don't do hi-rail, I run Postwar and I collect pre-1975 Marx

No problems on OGR.

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Posted by lionel2341 on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:32 PM
"If you dont own TMCC or DCS........... you an outcast!
If you like toy trains on Lionel track....your an outcast!
If you dont need electronics in your engines...your an outcast!
If you buy a $1000 + engine that doesn't work and you cant take it apart and fix it yourself....your an outcast!
If you like Lionel post war stuff...your an outcast!
If you own and operate standard gauge....your an outcast!"

There is not a bit of truth in this statement. It's nice to see people come to another Forum and badmouth another one.[:(][:(]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:26 AM
Geez Martini, talk about a flame. Lean down and let me bru***hat chip off your shoulder. It sounds like over-generalization to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:01 AM
I just want to have fun with my trains. I let my kids and their friends run them whenever they want to. I have no bias against 2 rail, hi-rail or any other kind of rail.
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Posted by bowlerp on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:01 AM
I think tolerance is still listed as a virtue by most all cultures of the world, and the hobby should be no exception. Personally, I enjoy all aspects of the hobby, from tin litho to 3-rail scale high rail. My own interests matter not to anyone else, and I make no judgments about anyone else's interests. There is something to be learned from each niche of the hobby and no one should close their minds simply because it doesn't fit their own world view.
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Posted by Phil1361 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 11:34 PM
I agree with Martin that there are some people on the OGR forum that were like that. There is the other side of the coin. I was a Hi-Railer and now I am a 2-Railer and I how many times have I heard, "rivet counter" which I'm not and I readily admit I don't know that much about the prototype, or when an interesting discussion is going someone jumps in and says,"There just toys". All I am trying to say is it swings both ways.

Yes, there are some guys without manners who are insensitive to how others might feel but don't stereotype the whole lot of us just because of a few.

Personally, my philosophy on that forum was that if I don't have anything positive to say-say nothing at all and I think I was pretty good at it.

I agree 100% with BrianelO27. There really is no right or wrong way. This happens to be exactly what I said in my first post on this forum.

Happy Railroading
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Posted by brianel027 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 9:44 PM
4567Martin, your comments are very much a part of my disenchantment with the other forum and echo so closely the e-mail letters from others I have received. I always find it interesting that folks want to agree with me in private, but not in public.

The tone here has been much more tolerant. The 3-rail hobby is as diverse as the members here. I know Big_Boy4005 is very much into TMCC. He knows I'm very much into 027 stuff, hi-rail style. There's no problems. We've got some young modelers here which is great! Sask Tinplater is wise beyond his years as far as trains go.

THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY TO RUN TRAINS!! Conventional control is every bit as fun as TMCC - so long if that's what you choose and how you feel!

Demanding Williams would go TMCC is as silly as wishing Atlas or Weaver would start an 027 line. The manufacturers will do as they see fit. And trains run everybit as good on tubular track as they do on other stuff. Really, it's all a matter of choice and preference - what you can afford, and the look you want your layout to have. In other words, we as modelers will also do as we see fit.

Having the charitable nature to agree to disagree is a good start to any discussion. And I'm sure when all the excitement simmers down a little, we'll get back to talking trains more directly as has been happening here for months (albeit at a slower posting pace).

Martin you are more than welcome here... you'll find you are not alone.

brianel, Agent 027

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Posted by cbojanower on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 9:25 PM
Martin, I am sorry you feel that way, but maybe it time for both sides to have an open mind. Stirring up this kind of anomosity before the OGR group gets here certainly desn't help everyone to get along.

Its a big tent with this hobby.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 9:20 PM
Martin, I am a Hi Railer and I do like scale but I do not fit the commet you made. Hey I have pre war Lionel trains that I like to run. I hope this forum will work for all. JIM
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Posted by MartyE on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 9:08 PM
What Martin says is true anywhere but I think it is the minority and not the majority. At least I like to think so. I look forward to all train discussion.

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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 8:58 PM
Flames can and have happened, but not usually here on the sleepy CTT forum. Over on the MR forum, I got into a big one, without even trying. The other guy was making some really outlandish comments after reading my topic, and the rest of the members pummeled him, while I sat back and watched. I haven't seen him back there since.

With the large influx expected, I suspect we will no longer be imune to those problems.

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Posted by nblum on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 8:13 PM
I've been reading this forum off and on for a few years. I don't ever recall anyone getting flamed. And it's not for lack of controversy. Plenty of people with strong opinions here (including me [:)][:)][:)]) , just seems to be more tolerant.


Perhaps it's the CTT "toy train" feel good approach as opposed to the somewhat more obsessive tendencies of some of the OGRR Forum crowd, or more likely, it's just that people have been more laid back here in general.

In any case, I doubt the CTT Forum moderators will tolerate any name calling or flaming. Not good for business. [;)]

So indulge your tastes in standard gauge, non-command, tinplate track. It's all part of our toy train heritage and of interest to most of us.
Neil (not Besougloff or Young) :)
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 7:58 PM
Don't worry Martin, we know how to deal with those issues.[B)][:D][banghead][(-D][(-D][:-^][swg]
I know that I'm up to the challenge. Thanks for the warning.
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CTT Forum members beware ....
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 7:46 PM
I was a member of the O Gauge Magazine railroad forum and posted about 200 times.My interest is in Williams and toy like layouts and standard gauge. There will be a lot of new members joining this forum, many of whom have bashed Classic Toy Trains Magazine and "look down there noses at toy trains and their owners" and anything that is not 100 % scale, in their opinion !
If you dont own TMCC or DCS........... you an outcast!
If you like toy trains on Lionel track....your an outcast!
If you dont need electronics in your engines...your an outcast!
If you buy a $1000 + engine that doesn't work and you cant take it apart and fix it yourself....your an outcast!
If you like Lionel post war stuff...your an outcast!
If you own and operate standard gauge....your an outcast!

So beware if you post anything "they" don't agree with or you'll...be an outcast!

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