318X Cars
Recently I spotted the cars below on ebay.
I was a bit puzzled by them because they are the size of the 8 1/4" cars that come in the Potomac set that are rookie tan and green, but they were the colors of the 9 1/4" Golden State set, and included the "Golden State" name boards.
I went to my Greenberg guide and on pages 150 -151 I found the information that cleared up the mystery. The cars are part of a set that was marketed through Montgomery Ward circa 1930. The cars were headed up by a 3116 in matching colors or by a 3191 locomotive.
I have the steam engine that would have headed the set.
And the tender that would have accompanied the engine pulling these cars,
Its nice to find somethiing new in the reference book I thought I knew pretty well.
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
The Northwoods Flyer Collection
of
American Flyer Trains
"The Toy For the Boy"
Northwoods, that is one fine looking set. I have always loved the two tone blues that Flyer used on their trains. I spent the Chrismas holidays finding my prior posting and was able to update all of my photos so they no longer have the photo-bucket water marks. A couple posting back where you are showing the boxes you have collected, is the blue board up and running at your new home?
Hi strainst,
Thanks for the doing the work of restoring your photos. I still need to take on that daunting task for the early part of this thread.
The photos of storage under the Blue Board Central are from the archives. The layout came down 3 years ago. The new layout will be named "The Arrowhead Division of American Flyer Lines". At least it will be when it finally gets built.
The 318X cars are most frequently seen in the Potomac Set
As I posted above the; Montgomery Ward set came in the two tone blue color scheme with Golden State brass name tags on the 318X cars.
And here are the 328X cars in the boxed "The Jeffersonian" set that I have. The set is also in two tone blue.
Now all I need is a Presidents Special in two tone Roles Royce blue
Edit:
The Wide Gauge stock car also came in a two tone blue color scheme.
Somewhere in my collection I also have street lights that are in the same two tone color combination.
Enjoying the World's Greatest Hobby
Interesting. Ward's also had special run blue Lionel 33's with matching 35 and 36 passenger cars. Although the Lionels are usually referred to as "midnight blue". I wonder, was blue a prominent thing with Ward's the way red was with Macy's?
Same me, different spelling!
I, too, like the two-tone blue, but I *really* like the military blue of the Flying Colonel, my Flyer Unicorn-made-of-Unobatnium set.
There is a vey reasonable Persidential Specicial on the Evil auction Site right now.
palallin,
Ah yes the beautiful blue Flying Colonel set. It has been on my list for years; ever since I picked up this orphan from the 1927 lithographed Presidents Special.
I've had to be satisfied with these repainted cars in O gauge (rare birds in my collection) until I find the rest of the family
Northwoods Flyer Now all I need is a Presidents Special in two tone Roles Royce blue Edit: The Wide Gauge stock car also came in a two tone blue color scheme. Somewhere in my collection I also have street lights that are in the same two tone color combination. Enjoying the World's Greatest Hobby Northwoods Flyer
As I was sorting through photos in the archive I came across the #2209 street lights that I mention above that came in the blue color scheme.
January 22, 2008 - January 22, 2023
Celebrating
15
years
Pre War American Flyer Pictures
Each year when this day rolls around I am amazed that I am still making additions to this thread. It has been a great joy to participate in this hobby and to take stock of the friends that I have made because of it. One of the things that I have noticed is that there is much less participation in postings here, as I mentioned last year. It should come as no surprise when I consider that I don't find very many "new" items to add to the collection after 15 years. I have discovered many other sources that have sprung up on the internet that provide photographs and information about Pre War trains and I know that those who used to post here have moved on to those sites. It is still great fun to see the enthusiasim of those of us who participate in The World's Greatest Hobby.
I intend to participate here for as long as I can or for as long as the thread exists answering questions and posting new finds. There is still great stuff to find out there. In honor of year 15 let me post some photos of set #315 from 1939
Cars with 6 wheele trucks
I would have liked to post set No. 15 from 1938 but I don't have the complete set.
At this point I have the cars - 4 wheel trucks. I don't have the engine for them yet. So my quest for the next year is to find the No. 4622-6 locomotive.
See, the quest never ends.
Northwoods Flyer, congrats on 15 years going strong, still the best forum on Pre-war American Flyer Trains.
Americam Flyer Type 5 No. 15(C/D); this loco has the early body (Version C) but the motor has 10 spoke wheels (Version D)
Americam Flyer Type 5 No. 15(D)
Americam Flyer Type X No. 15
Looking forward to 15 more years
strainst
Thanks strains,
That is a beautiful example of a #15 clockwork engine. Its been good to have you on board for this journey through American Flyer Prewar equipment.
2023 has been great for adding to the collection. I have found a #4622-6 to head up the blue cars posted above.
The 4622-6 Locomotive-Tender Combination combines a Type XV Pacific die-cast engine and a 1623 Type XIII tender. It was cataloged in1938.
The engine returned in 1939 - 1940 as the #436
Northwoods - How could you not love that steam engine.
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