Loud fastrack video!!!!!!!!

[magicman710]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSNOy2qUZ6Q

 

Listen to how loud that fastrack is! You cant even here that horn hardly, however, it appears the layout is on plain green plywood, raising the volume..........

 

Grayson

[njalb1]

Your right about the plywood not helping along with 4 sets of trains moving at the same time.

    Also they are just toys with people having fun !

[Brutus]

Man, I hope they are wearing hearing protection!  OSHA will get 'em for sure!

[Anonymous]

   

 

very funny...

 yeah a little padding would help for sure. 

[Anonymous]

 

Question?

What is normally used to support your layout? 

What type and thickness of plywood or other product which would dampen that loud sound and give it the support it needs?

Do your tracks always need extras like the cork bed?

Thanks,

Wayray 

[Anonymous]

well thats the fast (loud) track stuff there. So youd definatly need some extra padding, foam or thick roadbed  i am assuming. As far as wood i was told no thinner the 1/2 03 3/4 or else it will a. not support the wieght or b. start to curl...atleast thats  what i can remember...

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks.

Wayray 

[Anonymous]

Best way to quiet down that layout is right here!

[EIS2]

I thought it was a very nice video.  The noise of Lionel trains is part of the nostalgia, like ozone and milk containers being shot across the layout.  Running multiple trains at high speed is going to be noisy on any track system.

My FasTrack layout is loud when I run postwar trains at the higher speeds that is typical of postwar engines.  When I run modern trains with speed control at the slower speeds, the track noise is hardly noticeable.

Earl

[dwiemer]

Way louder than it has to be.  Even with tubular track mounted on plywood would give a loud layout.  For Fastrack, it is only made more so.  For either I would start with 1/2 to 5/8" plywood with 3/4" extruded foam attached to the top.  For Fastrack, I would use sill seal under it.  For either, you should screw into the foam, but not into the plywood.  From my experience, doing this with the sill seal for Fastrack makes it much quieter.  If you run any train at rocket speed, it will be loud.

Dennis

[EIS2]

There is another post on this forum with a YouTube video showing trains running on tubular track.  The trains sound just as loud to me.

http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1147326/ShowPost.aspx

Judging sound levels from videos can be very misleading because the sensitivity and placement of the microphone is a very large contributing factor.

Earl

[Anonymous]

There is another post on this forum with a YouTube video showing trains running on tubular track.  The trains sound just as loud to me.

http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1147326/ShowPost.aspx

Judging sound levels from videos can be very misleading because the sensitivity and placement of the microphone is a very large contributing factor.

Earl

Speaking from my own experience when I moved my train off the Fastrack and put it on my tubular the very first thing that I noticed was the huge reduction in noise.  I never thought it would be that drastic of a difference, and as someone who liked the ease of Fastrack the noise level alone nearly completely sold me on tubular.  BTW, the while I agree that different videos and microphones work differently, to me there is no debate about how much louder the Fastrack is, but hey to each his own.

[magicman710]

Actually, I linked that video to show you just how loud something can be, running around six trains, on plywood. I myself have already decided I would go with fastrack, so I really have nothing against it.

However, in Savannah, every year, there is a train show put on at an National Gaurd Armory. I go every year, and when your about 50ft. from the door of it, you hear a noise just like the noise on the video, when you get inside, you see THREE lionel trains running on tubular track! THREE! Making that much noise! On a layout about 25ft. x 10ft, going almost full speed, but THREE! Tubular can get REAL loud.

 

Grayson

[magicman710]

There is another post on this forum with a YouTube video showing trains running on tubular track.  The trains sound just as loud to me.

http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1147326/ShowPost.aspx

Judging sound levels from videos can be very misleading because the sensitivity and placement of the microphone is a very large contributing factor.

Earl

Speaking from my own experience when I moved my train off the Fastrack and put it on my tubular the very first thing that I noticed was the huge reduction in noise.  I never thought it would be that drastic of a difference, and as someone who liked the ease of Fastrack the noise level alone nearly completely sold me on tubular.  BTW, the while I agree that different videos and microphones work differently, to me there is no debate about how much louder the Fastrack is, but hey to each his own.

 

 

Ummm, 4th generation lioenl collector(ATSJer), your picture shows 2 kids playing with a train on FASTRACK and a Berkshire on FASTRACK. 

 

Grayson

[EIS2]

Speaking from my own experience when I moved my train off the Fastrack and put it on my tubular the very first thing that I noticed was the huge reduction in noise.  I never thought it would be that drastic of a difference, and as someone who liked the ease of Fastrack the noise level alone nearly completely sold me on tubular.  BTW, the while I agree that different videos and microphones work differently, to me there is no debate about how much louder the Fastrack is, but hey to each his own.

I think FasTrack is somewhat louder then tubular.  The reason I switched from tubular to FasTrack was the switches.  I had a lot of trouble with Lionel and K-Line switches with both shorting and derailments.  I have one Lionel 2-8-0 with a long wheelbase that shorts every time it goes through the curved section of a FasTrack switch.  None of my other engines (aprox 25 prewar, postwar, and modern) has ever had any shorts or derailments passing through FasTrack switches in any direction at any speed.  I was having constant problems with both shorts and derailments with my tubular track switches. 

The louder FasTrack noise is a non-issue for me.  Eliminating derailments and shorting has greatly increased my enjoyment of operating the trains.

Earl

[Anonymous]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSNOy2qUZ6Q

 

Listen to how loud that fastrack is! You cant even here that horn hardly, however, it appears the layout is on plain green plywood, raising the volume..........

 

Grayson

There are a number of things contributing to the HIGH noise level...

1. The room is an unfinished basement, so you have concrete walls, floors, etc.  No carpeting on the floor, no drywall or insulation on the walls, etc.  All that is happening is the noise is reflecting off all the walls and just reverberating all over the place.

2. The layout is open frame plywood with the track attached directly to the plywood.

3. There are 4 trains running a VERY high speeds.

All of this would result in the same insanely high noise level, no matter what track system you are using.

When you build your train room you should really finish the walls, using insulation between the studs, and some form of sound deadening material on the walls.  You could simply stretch fabric over the drywall and that will deaden the sound.  Best bet is to use a sound deadening wall board (homasote).  Then pad and carpet the floor.  Use dropped ceiling tiles on the ceiling.  This will reduce the amount of reverberation off the walls, floor and ceiling.

Then when you build your subframe, use 2 x 4s for the legs and framing.  Then for your sub roadbed use at least 1/2 inch plywood with either homasote or foam insulating board (3/4 -  2 inch thick).  Attach the track to the foam board and NOT to the plywood.  Then use additional homasote for the layout 'skirt', this deadens any sound transferred from the track to the 'open drum' area under the layout.

[magicman710]

Earl, thats why I choosed to go with fastrack (mainly) because of the switches. Its a realistic switchlamp and base, and all my trains run smoothly through them. You dont even see a shake of any engine or car with those switches.

 

Grayson 

[magicman710]

Um, where are you people?! I may me nearsightedm but i can easily see 6 trains running, not just 4........

Grayson 

[Anonymous]

Ummm, 4th generation lioenl collector(ATSJer), your picture shows 2 kids playing with a train on FASTRACK and a Berkshire on FASTRACK.  Grayson

That's just the track that came with the starter set.  This is what its running on now.  The Fastrack is now only for under the Christmas tree.

[alexweiihman]

About the sound you have to take the train car's noise of rolling into consideration.

[Jumijo]

Here's some of my trains running on FasTrack:

 

Polar Express

 

Santa Fes

Not much louder than tubular, but light years better looking and operating. 

[alexweiihman]

Nice layout!  Seems like you are a big fan of the warbonnet F series diesels.