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Old O27 track fasten down
Posted by usher40351 on Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:15 PM

Someone from model railroad forum  suggest i come here to ask my qustion. They said i could use # 4  wood screws. i want  to use philp flathead screws or should i use nails instead and what size nails should i use.     Gary

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Posted by wyomingscout on Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:28 PM

Gary, I used #4x3/4 pan head Phillips going through foam road bed into plywood.  They work well.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:45 PM

Definately screws.  Brads, tacks etc. tend to work themselves loose over time on sectional track, especially if the track is not ballasted.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:13 PM

I also use number-4 pan-head Phillips screws, but 1/2-inch rather than 3/4, which would come out the bottom of the 1/2-inch (actually 15/32) plywood that I use.  I pre-drill the holes to 3/32-inch with a Yankee drill dedicated to that task.

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Posted by sir james I on Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:04 PM

Screws for sure. Nails if pounded down can draw the rail out of alignment. Also hard to remove without damaging the track.

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Posted by Firesteel on Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:52 PM

lionelsoni

 I pre-drill the holes to 3/32-inch with a Yankee drill dedicated to that task.

I don't mean to go off topic, but I thought I was the only person who still used a Yankee drill.

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Posted by fifedog on Friday, November 12, 2010 7:47 AM

I favor #6 Trim Head Square Drive screws.  They won't strip when you have to make adjustments, and actually have a track bolt appearance.

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Friday, November 12, 2010 8:29 AM

Firesteel

 

 lionelsoni:

 

 I pre-drill the holes to 3/32-inch with a Yankee drill dedicated to that task.

 

 

I don't mean to go off topic, but I thought I was the only person who still used a Yankee drill.

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Posted by smokymtguy on Friday, November 12, 2010 10:39 AM

I use plastic cable zip ties.   I drill one hole beside the tie strip and another hole in the tie or on opposite side of tie.  Then run the zip tie up from under the layout over or throught the tie and back down under the layout, then zip it in place.  I read about this is a back issuse of either CTT or Model Railroader, for quiet running trains.  Trains do run quieter without running screws through the cork roadbed and into the plywood.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Friday, November 12, 2010 1:31 PM

Cork?  Roadbed?  Real men don't eat quiche, and they screw their track right onto the plywood.  If the noise is too loud, blow the whistle to drown it out....;-)

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Posted by hscsltb on Friday, November 12, 2010 4:19 PM

lionelsoni

Cork?  Roadbed?  Real men don't eat quiche, and they screw their track right onto the plywood.  If the noise is too loud, blow the whistle to drown it out....;-)

You tell them Bob

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, November 12, 2010 5:11 PM

hscsltb

 lionelsoni:

Cork?  Roadbed?  Real men don't eat quiche, and they screw their track right onto the plywood.  If the noise is too loud, blow the whistle to drown it out....;-)

 

You tell them Bob

I thought you were supposed to screw them into the hardwood floor in the apartment. Wink

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Posted by Penny Trains on Friday, November 12, 2010 7:00 PM

Northwoods Flyer

 hscsltb:

 lionelsoni:

Cork?  Roadbed?  Real men don't eat quiche, and they screw their track right onto the plywood.  If the noise is too loud, blow the whistle to drown it out....;-)

 

You tell them Bob

 

I thought you were supposed to screw them into the hardwood floor in the apartment. Wink

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Posted by balidas on Friday, November 12, 2010 7:29 PM

LOL!

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Posted by POTRZBE on Friday, November 12, 2010 8:32 PM

I've got a yankee push drill that I treasure.  Got it for a quarter at a yard sale.  I tried to find one for my son.  Not made any more.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, November 12, 2010 8:54 PM

Penny Trains

 Northwoods Flyer:

 hscsltb:

 lionelsoni:

Cork?  Roadbed?  Real men don't eat quiche, and they screw their track right onto the plywood.  If the noise is too loud, blow the whistle to drown it out....;-)

 

You tell them Bob

 

I thought you were supposed to screw them into the hardwood floor in the apartment. Wink

Northwoods Flyer

 

Only if your magna-traction is too wimpy to handle running on the drywall!  lol

Ahhh, now I see my problem.  I only run PreWar American Flyer. Who ever heard of Magna-traction.  We Flyer folks have learned to do things with rubber bands most folks have never heard of.

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Posted by jwse30 on Saturday, November 13, 2010 7:01 AM

smokymtguy

I use plastic cable zip ties.   I drill one hole beside the tie strip and another hole in the tie or on opposite side of tie.  Then run the zip tie up from under the layout over or throught the tie and back down under the layout, then zip it in place.  I read about this is a back issuse of either CTT or Model Railroader, for quiet running trains.  Trains do run quieter without running screws through the cork roadbed and into the plywood.

 

I also use cable ties. I install mine a bit different than Smokymtguy though. I drill a hole through the plywood and roadbed beneath the hole in the tie and feed a cable tie through it. Then I use a second cable tie to cinch it in place under the table. I've also used this method to secure street lights and an animated billboard (that wanted to "walk" all over the place when running).

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Posted by Shoal Creek on Saturday, November 13, 2010 4:34 PM

Hi all,just a thought on quiet running from a newbie.New layout presently under constructon,L shape 16' X 12'.I found that using sill seal under the track eliminates the high pitch rail noise on lionel 3 rail track.I purchase it at the local building supply store for about $5.00 for a fifty foot roll.It can be cut to half it's width to create 100 feet of sound proofing material.It can also be painted and has it's own pebble like texture.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:51 PM

Shoal Creek

Hi all,just a thought on quiet running from a newbie.New layout presently under constructon,L shape 16' X 12'.I found that using sill seal under the track eliminates the high pitch rail noise on lionel 3 rail track.I purchase it at the local building supply store for about $5.00 for a fifty foot roll.It can be cut to half it's width to create 100 feet of sound proofing material.It can also be painted and has it's own pebble like texture.

That sounds interresting, I've been looking for an inexpensive roadbed material for my small S-gauge Flyer oval.  How wide does it come?  And is it easy to cut/bevel?

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Posted by Shoal Creek on Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:11 AM

This product comes rolled up, 5 1/2" wide, about 1/8" thick and can easily be cut with a utility knife.It's intended to be used as a seal against drafts in new construction.It would be placed between the floor and the bottom plate on the outside walls when framing a new home.It looks a lot like foam packing material.The pebble looking texture is just what this particular product reminds me of.I am not quite to the track laying stage yet to know what method I will use to adhere this product to my subroadbed.I have done a mock-up test and was impressed by how effective just one thin layer of this product quieted everything down.I would ask for it in the building materials section at a Lowes,Home Depot or other supply outlet.It's refered to as" sill seal " and is probably made by several different manufactures.Let me know how this works for you,Shoal Creek RR.

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Posted by HighPlains on Monday, November 15, 2010 10:15 PM

POTRZBE

I've got a yankee push drill that I treasure.  Got it for a quarter at a yard sale.  I tried to find one for my son.  Not made any more.

Just ran across this:  http://www.garrettwade.com/garrettwade-push-drill/p/69P01.01/

A little expensive but there they are.

 

Mike

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