I am wondering if the postwar canisters can be picked up by a 182 or 282 crane?? I mean, do they have a metal piece on the top so the magnetic crane can pick them up with the magnet?? Thanks.
All of the canisters I have are all plastic. No metal.
You could try glueing a steel washer inside the top of the canister.
I know some of them, the red ones, have a small metal ring on the top, as if to hook them onto a crane. Such crane like the 182 and 282. You think gluing a metal washer on the underneath of the canister will work? I wonder if my 182 and 282 crane's magnets are strong enough. I will give it a try on one of them and see if indeed my cranes can pick up the canisters. I just wonder why lionel made the canisters when you have nothing to take them in and out of gondolas. I know there is a derrick platform, the 462, but thats for the gray atomic canisters, not the air ones, white or red ones. Maybe I should buy some more of these canisters and experiment with them. The red and whites ones, are they exactly the same? Except for some have metal hook rings on them. Thanks.
lionel2I am wondering if the postwar canisters can be picked up by a 182 or 282 crane??
No!!!
I seen a video of a postwar 282 gantry crane picking up canisters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XMgh6U3yNM
Here is the video, You can now see I am telling the truth.
lionel2 I seen a video of a postwar 282 gantry crane picking up canisters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XMgh6U3yNM Here is the video, You can now see I am telling the truth.
That's a video of the crane on my layout. I pick up many types of loads with the electromagnet by adding steel washers or strips of steel to the object that I want to lift. It would seem that adding a small steel washer flat on the top of the canister would be the obvious solution but I have found that the magnet will pick up with more power and will always center the canister perfectly if you cut the washer in half and mount it vertically on the top of the canister. This photo shows how I mounted the pieces of steel to various loads. I used hot melt glue to attach the end of the washer to the canisters because hot melt is always easy to remove and won't permanently damage the surface of canister if you decide to remove the washer in the future. Picking up different loads on and off of gondolas and flatcars is a lot more fun and challenging than picking up a pile of scrap metal (which is what most people use the electromagnet for).
If you glue a washer on the bottom of the canister you'll have to pick it up upside down!!!!!!
Back in the day when Lionel brought out a lot of their accessories like cannisters, reel, and crates there was still a lot of play value because children had something which is sadly lacking in a lot of todays youngsters. It's called immagination!!!!!!!!!!!!!
North of the 49th
Your original post stated!!!:
"I am wondering if the postwar canisters can be picked up by a 182 or 282 crane?? "
Seeing as how it included question marks and started "I was wondering", I drew the conclusion it was a question, as in "I don't know if this will do this, does anyone know?
In my experience, the electromagnet in the 182 is weak, hence, my answer is No!!!!
If you believe the answer to be yes, and "has seen" a video, then why ask the question???
It appears you already knows the answer!!!!
Just my observation, but it appears many of your posts ask a question, and then state the answer!!!!
Emphatically, I might add!!!!
What's the point???
Just for clearification. Let's not get so *** about my questions. I can ask whatever I want and if there is someone out there that can help, Great. If you dont like my posts then dont read them and dont post threats or unhelpful remarks.
lionel2I know some of them, the red ones, have a small metal ring on the top, as if to hook them onto a crane.
None of the postwar Lionel round cannisters came with metal rings!!! If you have seen them with rings, they were added outside the factory!!!! The Atomic Energy cannisters that came with the derick platform had wire loops so they could be picked up by the Derick!!!! I don't recall seeing any modern era round cannisters with metal rings either!!!!. The postwar cannisters, and any modern era cannisters are hollow, and have no bottom, so you could glue a metal washer inside, underneath the top!!!. But as already been posted, the electromagent isn't very strong!!! You can run the crane on DC, and the magnet will be stronger!!!. Sometimes the magnet will become magentized!!! A shot of AC will cure that!!. I had mine wired so I could flip a toggle switch to choose between AC and DC!!! This was with a 182 crane!!! It worked great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is a better quality video of my magnetic gantry crane unloading canisters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTq1jivuw4
Dave Smiths idea is good, and neat. Me I just used thumb tacks.
"IT's GOOD TO BE THE KING",by Mel Brooks
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Frank,
Lionel2 is just as entitled to ask questions as the rest of us. I don't see the need to make fun of the style of his posts. That is totally uncalled for. If I can help answer a question for somebody, I do. But, if I can't offer any help, I move on. I don't understand the need to make fun of someone every time they post. The intention of this post isn't to start an arguement, however I think you should cut Lionel2 some slack.
aw shoot Jim, he asked if a magnetic crane will pick up the canister. I have the magnetic crane and mine certainly won't. So my answer was:
No
He then comes back to "prove he is telling the truth" by saying here's a video I seen.
Well - if you seen the video of the crane picking up plastic canisters, then it appears you knew the answer to begin with. Which I pointed out in my last post, where Lionel2 got all bent out of shape - which was totally uncalled for.
I asked why he asks questions for which he already knows the answer.
Do you have any ideas?
As an aside Jim, I don't post all that much, but when I do see a post where I can help someone, I always do - usually with photos, so you might be barking up the wrong tree here.
It just seemed that something negative was being implied by the excessive punctation. I understand about trying to help, but that just seemed a bit much IMHO.
green97probeIt just seemed that something negative was being implied by the excessive punctation.
What's wrong with emphatic puncuation? Lionel2 applies multiple punctuation to every post. Perhaps what "seemed" is an assumption on your part.
green97probeI understand about trying to help, but that just seemed a bit much IMHO
Jim, are you saying help is welcomed, but it has to pass some perception test first? If someone asks a question about something I can help with, should I not offer assistance because of the way my answer might be perceived?
Over the course of the years I have been posting here, I've seen hundreds of questions posted about "How do you do this, or that?" particularly related to layout and scenery building. If you search back, you will find that I post answers - with step by step photos of how to do things. Now granted, my answers aren't ususally peppered with the civil war, grits, banilla, tardis, dam yankees and the like, which usually means my help is unwelcome, but I post it anyway, partially because I try to be helpful to people trying to actually enjoy the train hobby, and partially because I am thick headed and figure someday that help will be welcomed.
Bob Keller
I wouldn't sweat it Bob - although I appreciate the support you extend to folks who like to come here to post about Classic Trains.
I guess it's kind of like an epsiode of "Lost." When an "outsider" makes a post here, some of the "insiders" get all rankered up and then the emails start flying. "so and so posted - IGNORE! IGNORE! IGNORE!. "What's he doing posting here - he must have some ulterior motive!!" Who knows, maybe the outsider is just sharing his enjoyment of the hobby, or giving some advice, or answering a question and has no double secret hidden agenda.
But thanks for your support of postings about o-gauge trains.
Ah, Just forget it Jim. They need to find something better to do with their retirement checks. I can ask any question in any form I want. Since when are you the boss here?? I can answer my own questions if I want to. Its just sometimes I need someone else to convince me that I am right. Got it?? Thanks Jim. Iron Horse was great on saturday and the show today was awesome. Got some more 022 switches and a 118 newsstand with whistle. Also, got some extra postwar trucks for my 6464 boxcars. Lots of people there. Thanks.
lionel2Got it??
Jeez, right after Bob asked you to play nice.
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