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182 Magnetic Crane Postwar!!!

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182 Magnetic Crane Postwar!!!
Posted by lionel2 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:18 AM

How do you repair the cloth that is covering the wire that goes from the crane to the magnet??  It is frayed in 3 spots and I would like to know how you fix this?  Any way to detatch the wire and put on a new cloth?  Is there a part number for this cloth or what can I use instead?  And is this wire supposed to be in the boom of the crane or just dangling?  Thanks.

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Posted by Serows1 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:18 PM

 I believe that you will have to replace the wire with new rubber sheathed wire, they don't make wire with cloth sheathing anymore, that I am aware of.  If it doesn't look too bad then maybe you can try a little needle and thread to gathering back together the ends if they are coming apart.  Good luck. :)

 

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Posted by lionel2 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:42 PM

I would have to look at it again to see if I can do that.  I think there are two wires there.  Not sure.  How do you disconnect that wire if I were to find some cloth sheathing for it?  I am going to add this to my layout, where is a good place to place this 182 crane?? Should it be in a freight yard with track running in front of it, so it can unload of course?  I am not guessing on the main line, maybe on a siding or something.  Oh yeah, by the way, how much is this 182 crane worth?  Mine is in excellent condition, with controller, and perfect working order. But, no box.  I was guessing maybe $200 or maybe less.  Its a C-7.  Oh yeah, and what is the little steel peices is supposed to pick up with the magnet??  Is there a part number for them? If so, where can I find them??  Parts dealers?  Thanks.

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Posted by kpolak on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:24 PM

Hi lionel2,

There are 2-wires for the magnet.  Remove the cab on the crane and the wires are attached there.  There are 2-screws under the rear of the cab.  The front of the cab is slotted to allow the cab to slide back from the 2-additional screws in the front.

If your crane is origional, and in the shape you say, I'd believe it's in the right place.  The front does flop around.

Try Jeff at the Train Tender http://www.ttender.com/index.htm he may have the cloth to cover the wires.  I recommend calling him.

Depending on your layout, you can locate this anywhere.  I have mine between 2-sidings servicing a scrap yard.  I can load and unload from both tracks.

Price sounds about right.

Origional scrap steel pieces are difficult to find, but are small diamond shaped pieces of steel.  You can use anything that a magnet will pick-up as a load, from track to ties to wheels.

Kurt

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Posted by lionel2 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:01 PM

Cool, thanks a lot.  I will look for that cloth peice for the wire.  I have no scrap steel.  182-22 is the part number for that i think.  Might have to look for some of them.  Thanks.

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Posted by strogey on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:11 PM

In answer to your question regarding the wire. I can think of 2 options for you. The first is if you watch EBay Lionel auctions you can sometimes find auctions for cloth wire. Have never persued any so I am not sure if it is the same stuff or even the proper gauge. The other option is if you check some of the electronic/electrical suppliers, many of them will have "Mesh Sleeving". It comes in various diameters and is expandable. You will want to obtain the non-fraying variety. It won't come unravelled when you cut it. It is mostly available in black. In fact, I have never seen it in any color other than black. Good luck with your project!

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Posted by lionel2 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:33 PM

Thanks, I will check a local electrical store.  I mean the frayed cloth does not effect operation.  It just looks messy.  I look at my options.  Thanks again.

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Posted by arkady on Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:30 AM
I have never dealt with this company, so I can't tell you anything about them. But they do advertise cloth-covered wire for sale: http://www.oldphoneworks.com/
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Posted by lionel2 on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:54 PM

Ok, thank you.  My local hobby shop has some original stamped steel things, that the 182 picks up with its magnet.  They are in a little bag like the 207 coal.  Its pretty expensive though.  I guess its hard to find.  I am not sure if I will setup my layout in the summer time to make sure all these new additions to my layout all work well.  I have only designed it all on paper, not actually set it all up to see if it all fits.  But, I am just adding a 3x4 piece of wood, to accomadate some more accessories, such as my 182 crane, 462 derrick platform, 114, 118, 128 newsstands, 455 oil derrick, 2 more pairs of 022 switches.  That is pretty much all that will be on this 3x4 piece added to the layout.  A Z will power these new accessories.  My control panel is gonna look full, with 7 transformers.  Wiring will be a pain, thats why I wanted to set it up in the summer, when i have the most time, and predrill all the holes for the new accessories, lights for house, 71 lamp posts, etc.  Then when I set it up in October during colombus day weekend, it will be much easier.  But, one problem.  I have to get some stuff outta my basement and that stuff wont be gone til july 5th.  So looks like i have to wait.  Oh yeah, one question: Is $225 too much to pay for a 282 gantry crane in excellent condition with no box?? My books say $150 to $180.  Thanks.

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Posted by rlplionel on Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:30 PM

The 182 is a versatile accessory when it comes to layout placement. For example, it can be located on a curved section of track to unload metal scrap from one gondola to another on the same track.

 

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Posted by lionel2 on Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:42 PM

How many volts should it take to operate the 182 crane.  I do not want to over power it.  Oh yeah,  I have not wired this thing up in a while, How does it wire up??  Should I oil and lube it before operation??  If so, where??  Thanks.

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Posted by kpolak on Friday, June 12, 2009 8:40 AM

The ground post is nearest the corner of the base.

14v should work fine.

Turn it over, and add a small amount of grease to the worm gears.  On top, add a small amount of grease to the gear on the base of the crane on top.

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Posted by lionel2 on Friday, June 12, 2009 2:40 PM

Well, I got the metal load pieces.  They were $10 for a whole bag of them.  I should be working on my 182 by friday to oil and lube it.  Let you guys know if I have any problems.  Thanks.

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Posted by lionel2 on Monday, June 15, 2009 10:02 PM

So the nut closest to the corner is the ground nut.  And the other is the power nut.  Connect to A, B, C, or D on my Z transformer.  Got it.  Thanks.

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Posted by lionel2 on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:51 PM

Well, I got my 182 fired up.  It works great.  Little bit jerky when moving left and right, other than that, great!!  The magnet is not a strong as it was before.  But, on higher voltage it picks up metal great.  But, i was just using a 1032 controller, 75 watts.  And it worked great.  I will try it on my Z at 12 - 14 volts and see what happens there.  Maybe better clean power will do the trick.  Thanks.

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