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Williams Electronic E-Unit in a Lionel 2026?

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Williams Electronic E-Unit in a Lionel 2026?
Posted by jjm on Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:55 PM

 Has anyone tried to install a Williams electronic e-unit into a Lionel 2026 steamer (or any Lionel 027 steamer)?  I think the length of 3" prevents it from fitting.

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewProd&productId=2765

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Posted by rtraincollector on Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:30 AM

I'm not sure it would work but if it would you could always put it in the tender with a tether to the engine but it probably have to be an non whistle tender but then you could put Williams Whistle board and speaker in there also and probably would all fit. especially a long tender like a 2046

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:29 AM

Length is only part of the problem.

That unit is for DC motors.

Rob

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Posted by rtraincollector on Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:35 AM

ADCX Rob

Length is only part of the problem.

That unit is for DC motors.

Rob

Thats basicly what I ment when said I don't know if it will work I ment as with a lionel postwar engine.

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Posted by jjm on Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:59 AM

 Other than Dallee, are there any other replacements available?

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Posted by bfskinner on Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:47 AM

A QSI "ACRU-E" may be exactly what you want. They are usually available at:

http://www.the-scaled-tin-rail.com/

Art Boynton is very helpful.

 

 

 

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Posted by jjm on Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:52 AM

 ACRU-E says, "No longer available."  Oh, well.

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Posted by bfskinner on Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:20 AM

jjm

 ACRU-E says, "No longer available."  Oh, well.

I'd still give Art a call. (Note his business hours.) Perhaps he can suggest an alternative. The distinct advantage of the ACRU-E was that it will fit into the space formerly occupied by the original electro-mechanical e-units. However, other ACRU-xx units can be rigged to work. Please report what he advises.

Also, don't toss out your original e-unit. Some parts dealers will not sell a new one if you cannot exchange a repairable old one; which is one reason that I caution against butchering the old ones.

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:21 AM

The fact that the motor is a universal motor is not a show-stopper.  You can easily modify a universal motor to be sensitive to the polarity of the voltage, to emulate the reversing behavior of a permanent-magnet ("can") DC motor.  Wire a bridge rectifier upstream of either the armature or the field winding (not both!).  For example, connect the + and - terminals of the rectifier to the brushes, then wire the ~ terminals of the rectifier in series with the field winding.  Connect the series combination to the reversing board as if it were a can motor.

Of course, the reversing board must be able to supply as much current as the motor draws.  The Bachmann web site does not say how much current it can supply.

Bob Nelson

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