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Charles Wood Train Enamel?
Posted by mpzpw3 on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:42 PM
Does anyone have any experience using his paint? I have a set of well played with 2400 series passenger cars that I would like to try and touch-up with a brush, not a full repaint. I was told today that this paint is fairly difficult to work with. I would try and mix up my own batch, but I have a 100% failure rate so far (at least I'm consistant!).
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Posted by ogauge on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:31 PM
I've only used his spray cans and they were annoying in that they are expensive  and small.  I will be tempted to have matching colors mixed and then use my airbrush  for my next resto job.
Dennis H. W. Lafayette, IN Too many trains feels just right....
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Posted by georgea on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:33 PM
I use spray cans as his bottle touch up is usually dried out and not worth returning . spray a little into a small cup and then brush on .collers usually match fairlly well .
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Posted by 1688torpedo on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:55 PM

Hello Brian,

Any shop that sells paint should be able to mix & match a batch for you to touch up your Passenger Cars with. Just show them what color you want them to match & this should help out.          P.S....look for a place that sells automotive paint in spray cans. Hope this helps. Take Care.

Keith Woodworth........Seat Belts save lives,Please drive safely.
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Posted by ogauge on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:16 PM
Keith has hit upon what I want to try next.  I guess I want to also make sure I have a good amount of stuff to paint at one time, ie Gunmetal engines and tenders or TT green passenger sets...
Dennis H. W. Lafayette, IN Too many trains feels just right....
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Posted by palallin on Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:08 AM

I have used his paint and find the expense to be worth it--not that it's any more expensive than custom mixes, for they are relatively expensive, too.  His paint is, in my experience with it, excellent quality:  If you know anything at all about application, you aren't likely to mess up the job.

 

YMMV

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Posted by mpzpw3 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:08 AM

Thank You for the reply's! I have had paint mixed at the auto. store, and it works very well. The problem with the 2400's is that there is not enough "area" to get a match. The parts store needs about a square inch of plain green, which between the windows, lettering, yellow stripes, and paint chips, none of the cars have. Might be able to use the inside of the car, but the color is a little different on the inside than the out.

Sounds like my local guys opinion of the paint is mirrored here. Too bad. Looks like this is niche that someone could fill.

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Posted by SPFan on Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:12 AM
Does Charles even offer a match for these cars? AFAIK he only has a couple of colors that match post war items. As for touch up work, it would be difficult to use this paint on anything larger than a pin head chip. The paint does not flow very well with a brush. Good results with an airbrush require a critical amount of thinner. To little and it clogs the brush and too much and it runs. It does look great on the metal pre war stuff once you get the technique down though.

What i do in cases like these is mix my own using Floquil solvent paints. Get a bunch of colors that are close plus some blues and yellows to alter the shade of green. Mix in a drop at a time, apply it to piece of plastic and let it dry as it will change color in drying. Then alter the mix. Tedious but effective if you are patient,

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Posted by ezmike on Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:11 PM

Just my 2 cents.

I wanted to do something similar with a set of tinplate 6442/6443 brown passenger cars. I actually called the gentleman who produces or at least produced paint for this reason (for the life of me I cannot remember his name or the name of the company but he is somewhere in PA, I believe his last name is Henning), anyway, his advice was that unless I was prepared to strip the cars and repaint them using a sprayer my touch-ups would leave the cars looking like they had a case of the chicken pox. He explained that although the paint is an exact match for the original, the 50 - 60 years of dirt and grime now in the pigment would make the fresh paint stick out. I took his advice and am glad I did because the few small areas I did along the roof line are clearly different than the rest of the car.

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Posted by SPFan on Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:20 PM
Mike, would that be Collector Color? Made in Hanover, PA. Can't help with a name though.

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Posted by cjmeyers on Friday, May 23, 2008 7:23 AM

While on the subject, has anyone used Charlie's paint from the bottle / airbrush instead of the rattle can?

I bought a bottle of NYC Gunmetal grey to do a resto on a 221 Dreyfuss later this summer. I'd like to airbrush it with a Badger Crescendo double action. Pretty much my first 'real' job with an airbrush.

Any advice thinning, technique, pressure settings, etc?

Regards,

CJ Meyers

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Posted by ezmike on Friday, May 23, 2008 1:11 PM

SPFan,

Yep that's it, you know, I forgot to check last night but I'm pretty sure the gentleman's last name was Henning. Unfortunately, when I asked him if he had a spray can of the ivory/cream paint for the railings of a post war milk platform he told me he's out of the paint business. Only selling what stock he has left and that was all pint cans. Too bad, he was a wealth of information and very willing and easy to talk with. Asked how I was going to get the old paint off, if I had a glass bead/sand blaster, if not, to boil a gallon of water and once at a boil remove from the heat, mix 2 cups of olf time TIDE powder laundry detergent, mix and soak the piece in it. Let soak for a while and the paint will come off with very little elbow grease.

By the way, I think his name is actually on the can's label.

Mike

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Posted by alexweiihman on Friday, May 23, 2008 7:55 PM

Great product!  I am using his paint to restore a 1688 torpedo.

 

Alex

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Posted by ivesboy on Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:26 AM

 

   Buy some testors model paints and mix it up. Should be close enough. Green, brown, yellow, and black should do it. I would recommend leaving them alone, unless they are the observation and pullman you bought off me on ebay a week or so ago... Anyway i havnt heard much about his stuff except it doesnt match Ives, but then again, nothing does. Good luck.
 

If you are looking for a rare train, ask i might surprise you with an asking price!!! A guy asked if i liked fast track, and i replied i used t-rail. He said eww that old stuff you bolt together???? Ignorance must be bliss!
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Posted by mpzpw3 on Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:15 PM
ivesboy, I'm hoping it wasn't you I bought them from. If so, you state you know nothing about trains, have pretty poor pictures, and a terrible description. Not to mention that you are shipping from California, which seems a little out of your waySmile [:)]. No, I don't think these are the cars you sold me, but since we're on the subject, where are the cars you sold me? I could sure use them!
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Posted by ivesboy on Monday, May 26, 2008 12:54 AM

 

 

      I can't remember where i shipped the ones i sold. O/W. Any luck with the paint yet?

 

 

If you are looking for a rare train, ask i might surprise you with an asking price!!! A guy asked if i liked fast track, and i replied i used t-rail. He said eww that old stuff you bolt together???? Ignorance must be bliss!

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