This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
G'day Gents!
Here's one from way back - Page 150 of the Original Thread, Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 30 Oct 2005! We should call this ENCORE! "From The Legion of the Lost!"
Okay pictures for this week. As always I shall try to produce a couple of shots that will coincide with my classic juice posts from this week. So with Ted's approval I'll post a couple shoys of the museum's Witt's one large and one small. I don't have any shot's of traditional nearside cars but a couple of the museums "clones" will be posted in their stead. This is a large Toronto TTC Witt from the first 1921 order,built by Canadian Car and Foundry of Montreal ( cancar ) Bertha or the "beer" car 2424 This is small Witt 2786 from the 1922 order built also by Cancar. sister car 2766 is still owned a run by the TTC. It is available for charter work and once in a while it and TTC two PCC's also used for charter work will get the occational running time on the Harbour front line during the summer. This is a shot of small Witt 2894. This is from the last Witt order in 1923. This car was built by the Ottawa car company. 2894 is the backbone of our operating fleet. It is used daily during our operating season.She replaced 2786 as the go to car 10 years ago. 2786 is waiting for some restoration time. Next year 2894 will get a bit of a beak as 2424 will be back in the regular rotation. This is a shot of TR car 1326. This car was built in 1910 by the Toronto Railway Company in their own Witchwood shops. She is one of over 400 double truck TR's built between 1903 and 1911. An all wood car it was built originally before the PAYE system of fare collecting occured. This car was rebuilt in 1919 as a PAYE car following the lead of the nearside cars. 1326 is also the museum's reason for being.The saving from scrap of this car was what prompted the founders to start the museum. Rob
Enjoy!
Tom
And one more ENCORE! "From the Legion of the Lost!"
This was Posted by ftwNSengineer Red P back on Page 182, 04 Dec 2005:
Nick - I dont have a regular run. Regular runs are locals and rostabouts. Im a road engineer and we work in pool rotation. If my spot is 10 times out, then I will get the 10th. train to be called. And it doesnt matter what time of day it is. It could be during the day or the middle of the night. P I also want to submit my contribution for sunday picture day. PC 9046 at Anderson,IN March 1972 PRR 9121 at Fort Wayne March 1969
We miss seeing our "irregular" customer, Red P, and wish him well wherever along those tracks he happens to be!
Hi Tom and all.
Well CINDY a pint of Holden's Mild would go down a treat as I have been doing some ‘honey-dos' and it is quite hot out.
I though I would drop these photos off while having a break and hopefully be back later to comment on the fine posts we have had.
This weeks photos from Alan are from Ireland in May this year.
The location for the pics is at Limerick Junction. The railtour Alan was on involed diesels one way and steam the other from Dublin. These diesel locomotives are I believe being phased out farily soon
They are General Motors Irish Rail class 181 Bo-Bo of 1,100 HP built in 1966 at La Grange Illinois
The steam locomotive is a class WT 2-6-4 tank engine built in Derby(England) in 1947 for the LMS(Northern Counties Comittee) in Northern Ireland.
The photos should enlarge.
Well CINDY back to work for me for a while then I should be able to enjoy a few drinks at Our Place.
Pete.
Good afternoon Tom, Cindy and all fellow travelers. Libation of choice all around. The family got together last night to celebrate my wife's 59th birthday. To tell the truth, she doesn't look a day over 58.
Tom: Glad to hear you are having good weather in Mo. If you were where I am, you would have allergy problems, since it's been raining CATS and dogs and is forecasted for the entire week. Maybe I better get started on building that ark. The pics of the caboose brought back childhood memories of going through a parked caboose and stealing fusees and track torpedoes. What I did with those torpedoes is another story. I just hope there are no ex-railway police on this site.
Mike: Thanks for the DD-1 links. Too bad someone has never thought of attaching a big beak to the front of that engine. It looks like a huge owl coming down on you at 80mph. I'm glad they still have one preserved in a museum. What's a former traction engineer doing in Az?
EricAllan: Have you heard of fireless boiler engines? They are engines with a large insulated tank where the boiler would be. They were used here on industrial rail lines. The engine would fill up with steam from a stationary boiler and then go to work switching cars around the facility. When it ran out of steam, it would go back to the boiler for a refill. I mention this because I know that NZ has lots of geo-thermal energy that is used to run power generating facilities. Could or has this source of geo-thermal power ever been used to power a locomotive?
I'll see you guys Monday. Have a good'un
Good day all, in honor of our founding I proclaim the 12th of each month free drinks for all who attend courtesy of the Sacred order of the grey beards, forward all bar and entertainment tabs as necessary to either Shane or myself. Uh oh, this can't be good, Boris must be responsible for compressing Frostbite into Lar's favorite wine bucket. That's gotta hurt Round of Pale Ale while I commusrate as to recent activity..
Tom, yet one more year under the belt, I must inquire as to all those lovely maidens.Don't believe I have been properly introduced. I truly enjoy being a grey beard, sure beats what the wife called me the other night On a more personal level I wish to think all who attended to make our 3rd anniversary spectacular. A special job well done to Sir Lars and Capt Tom.
Ok here we go:
DD1;
Indeed Dunsmuir is today a ghost of its former self, it featured a full roundhouse, turntable, machine shop and mallet shed. It was the winter headquarters for snowfighting and the summer headquarters for fire trains. It was the spot to add/remove/service helpers for the 2.2% grade up the sacramento River to cantera It was the spot that trains were reblocked to comply with tonnage restrictions. It was but a small but vital cog in the quest for efficient operation.
Pwolf,
Great material in the last couple of days, let me revisit a comment you forwarded regarding SP chime whistles, indeed these were unique and thus quite collectable. SP designed and manfactured each unit, thus no two have the same tone, and thus carry serial numbers denoting the shop, foundry and construction date. They were available in five and six chime versions, SP large power began recieving these in the twenties, in cases where they could be manually manipulated by a skilled engineer they could emit a most haunting sound throughout the octave range, to me this is the true SP, the era of the Sacramento headlight and chime whistles.
Eric;
Alas 4294 is the only extent Cab Forward, if not for a personal plea to JD. Russel, President of the SP at the time ,there would no preserved example period. JD will forever be remembered for his banishment of all steam in particular and a seething dislike of passenger operations in general..
Trainyard;
Good to see a left coaster among us, nope didn't get the oppertunity to chase up Cajon, heck didn't find out about it till after it occured!!!
Barndad:
What a fantastic write up, brings to mind the Cisco fire of 1960 that destroyed the snow sheds at Norden and all together eleven miles of sheds over Donner. In a twist of fate only the hand of nature and man can provide, SP had retired the last fire trains the previous year.
DL;
Ok I got it, I thought you were a Dave, seems I had partaken of a wee bit too much Boris juice during the celebration while typing in front of a mirror
Couldn't let the day pass without something SP: In 1951, the Los Angeles passenger and Operating Department decided to assign cab forwards to the San Joaquin in leiu of the normal double headed MT class 4-8-2's. This would reduce crew cost and fuel/water so reasoned the SP. The experiment was short lived when the cab forwards proved unable to maintain time between Palmdale and Mojave prompting the Passenger Department to insist that the Operating Department return their MT's!!!..
A hearty hello to all I have failed to mention, you know who you are, well my glass is dry and duty calls, back to the chain gang
Dave
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!
Not a bad Saturday - not the most active, but still not bad . . . Good to see Lars - Pete - Ron (DD1) 'n Dave! Specific comments on Monday . . .
For Dave: No, no, no, Mate! We celebrated our 27th MONTH Anniversary. The 3rd YEAR comes on April 12th, 2008!! <geesh> Details, details - trained investigators don't need 'em, eh <yikes>
HOWEVER, we'll hold you to the free drinks on the 12th of every MONTH!
And now . . .
Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . July 15th thru 21st: Brief Encounter (1946) Starring: Celia Johnson, Trevor Howard, Stanley Holloway, Joyce Carey & Cyril Raymond - and - Wind (1992) Starring: Matthew Modine, Jennifer Grey, Cliff Robertson, Jack Thompson & Stellan Skarsgård. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Some More of Samoa (1941).
Brief Encounter (1946)
PLOT SUMMARY:
It so happens that their schedules coincide at the train station every Thursday, and their casual attraction grows, through quiet conversation and longing expressions, into the desperate recognition of mutual love. From this point forward, Lean turns this utterly precise, 85-minute film into a bracing study of romantic suspense, leading inevitably, and with the paranoid, furtive glances of a spy thriller, to the moment when this brief encounter must be consummated or abandoned altogether. Decades later, the outcome of this affair--both agonizing and rapturous--is subtle and yet powerful enough to draw tears from the numbest of souls, and spark debate regarding the tragedy or virtue of the choices made. A truly universal film, with meticulously controlled emotions revealed through the flawless performances of Howard and Johnson, and an enduring masterpiece that continued Lean on his course to cinematic greatness. --Jeff Shannon
from: amazon.com
Wind (1992)
As he proved with The Black Stallion, Never Cry Wolf, and Fly Away Home, director Carroll Ballard has a gift for creating exhilarating movie experiences. And although Wind received only mixed reviews when released in 1992, it's a technically astonishing film that does for yacht racing what The Black Stallion did for horse racing--it puts you right into the action with breathtaking camerawork and gripping excitement. Matthew Modine and Jennifer Grey star as experienced sailors determined to win the prestigious America's Cup yacht race. Their love for each other is put to the test when she's removed from the crew and joins up with a maverick designer (Stellan Skarsgård) whose new boat design represents the cutting edge of sailing competition. Eventually Modine leaves his millionaire sponsor (Cliff Robertson) and reunites with Grey, and their race against the Australian World's Cup champion leads to a thrilling climax on the high sea. Cinematographer John Toll (who later won back-to-back Oscars for Legends of the Fall and Braveheart) takes his cameras where no sailing movie had ever gone before, and the results are nothing less than spectacular. --Jeff Shannon
SHORT: Some More of Samoa (1941)PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly
An ailing eccentric millionaire hires three tree surgeons - guess who - to get a mate for his puckerless persimmon tree, which can only be found on the island of Rhum Boogie. The Stooges wind up on the cannibals' menu when Curly refuses to marry the chieftain's sister.
from: threestooges.net
Enjoy! Tom
Details Tom, about time to replace my Myan callender, I got dibs on the middle row seats at the Mentor Theater for Sunday.
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Leon, now it is time for my favorite, Rumpsteak Café de Paris! Medium. Yeah, I'll have a Keith's.
Back with some pictures for this Saturday. Randomly picked, but some of them have kind of a connection to what we discussed lately.
Mike – Thanks for the info on the SP Cab Forward! It is probably not in operating condition. And more pictures! Not to forget William H. Rehnquist remarks! Interesting!Tom – No problem to stay up late when I can sleep in the following morning! I am going to have a second look at those 20 dollar bills to see if I can find another #10. Looking forward to see more of your pix!Thanks for the Cast of Characters! I haven’t seen Inspector Clueless for a long time! Vacation?An old “new” post from Rob. Thanks for posting it again! I never saw that one before. Same about Red P’s post! I don’t think he has visited the Bar since last fall.Just found your post about the movies for next week! Brief encounter, is really a classic one in my mind. I saw it once, maybe 50 years ago and don’t remember too much except that I liked it! Wind, didn’t know much about it but I found a Swedish actor in it, Stellan Skarsgård, so I’ll take that one too. And the Stooges of course!Lars – You are correct about the medical world being involved in a guessing game. That is why I have to go through that stuff on Wednesday, they are about to find out the hard facts! And we can’t live without them, that’s for sure. Quite a few name trains operated by NYC!Pete – Nice photos from Alan! I really don’t know much about the Irish railroads except they are broad gauge.DD1 – I actually remember one of those fireless boiler engines from when I was a kid. I wonder how soon the steam pressure went down due to temperature drop after they had been charged? Dave – I was afraid that 4294 was the only surviving Cab Forward. At least I know now!
A West Coast picture.
For DD1, a Bi-Polar Milwaukee electric (for DD1).
Easy to figure out what this is.
Eastbound freight west of Flagstaff, AZ.
Orange Empire Railway Museum (for Per).
X2000 cab car without the plastic nose (for Tom). Photo: Christer Sjöborg.
Have a nice weekend!
Eric
Good Evening everybody present and Happy Bastille Day!
Cindy, please a round for everybody and a GlenDronach for me. No, no ice, I help myself to a little bit of water over here. Tonight is steak dinner night, right? I’ll find myself a table after I finished the malt and enjoy the good steak!
As usual it has been a busy week around here. I’m trying to keep up during the week, but I hope my boss doesn’t find out about what I’m typing.
Tom, thank you for the customer list in chronological order. I especially liked the flags! That’s a nice touch!
Orders, eh! Yes those are to be followed. Even though I am a civilian, I was hit be something similar which caused me to move to Dallas. If I wanted to continue to work for the company, I better show up for work in Dallas on the 1st! The family wasn’t too happy about Texas, my wife is after all, a California girl, so they stayed behind and I did a monthly commute. This December will be my last commute and I will finally be moving back!
Demography says it all for our rail traffic! Except for the east coast, there aren’t many places where the population density can support rail traffic, unfortunately. It’s good to have in an emergency. The big quake we had north of LA in the late 90’s or early 2000’s (I forget what) caused a major freeway to be shut down. Metrolink stepped up to the plate and started to run trains even though one of the lines wasn’t really opened yet!
Is that “Iron Horse” Bar and Grill still in the North Station, do you know? I may have to pay it a visit next time I’m in Boston.
Your pictures from ExpoRail continue to amaze me. That must be some place to visit! The wooden caboose looked very neat and clean, but looking at the ceiling of the cupola, there isn’t much structure to protect the crew if the helper engine hooks up a little too hard, is there? I guess that’s why the wooden cabeese were phased out. They have a lot of romance connected to them, though. My wife has always wanted one but we have no place to park it.
The John Molson 2-2-2 is just about as small as they get, isn’t it? A 0-2-2 or a 2-2-0 may work, but hardly a 0-2-0. There was an 0-4-0, Y class, and a 2-2-0, Yb class, in Sweden but none of those are preserved. I looked for a picture of any of them but I can’t find one.
Have you heard any rumors in either direction about the future of the VIA Rail’s Canadian? It’s one of those trains I have heard about since the 60’s and I would really like to ride it, but it is not possible right now.
It was some very nice pictures of some really classic looking trolleys you dug up from Rob’s collection. They remind me a bit of the Melbourne and Ballarat trolleys “down under”. I wonder if Allan has some pictures of those to share. Have you been over there lately, Allan, and can tell us something about what it looks like nowadays?
The last car brings back memories from when I was visiting my Aunt in Helsingborg (opposite Helsingor = Elsinore, Hamlet’s place). They had 4-wheel, Berlin-built trams in those days. Wooden benches, of course, why couldn’t I get away from them? Back in those days I had no camera, and I would probably not have taken any pictures of them even if I had had a camera.
These all-black switchers (SW-something, right?) in the pictures of your Red P encore post stand for a very black time in American railroad history in my mind. I guess PC was the best they could do under the circumstances, but…)
I think I will try to see both movies this week at the theater. Both of them sounds interesting and I haven’t seen any of them.
Ron, I saw that Chinese steamer when I visited the CRVR back in the 80’s. An interesting engine in that it did not have a flange on one of the drivers. I haven’t seen that so often, although I realize it is not uncommon. The whole family was on vacation in the great state of Connecticut and we did some train fanning, both the CRVR and the trolley museum were on the agenda. I had seen the Gillette Castle at an earlier visit and since the time was running out we skipped that this time.
You know, that town of Burney sounds just like a place for me. A little bit off the beaten path, and I presume, lots of hills, trees and pastures. That’s something that is very difficult to find in Southern California. The fact that there is a railroad close by doesn’t make thing worse, quite contrary! Dunsmuir has quite a railroad history in itself if I remember correctly. I saw Dave wrote about it in a post today. I think one of the PBS train programs had a bit on Dunsmuir in it, I can’t recall which program it was, though.
You and I must have been hit by the same storms. I would say it’s been raining lions and Saint Bernards here this week.
I have seen pictures of those fireless steam engines. Did you know about the electric engines with batteries so they could travel on lines without overhead wires! There were a few of those also.
DL, that coding problem is something I read about in another forum. It shows up every now and then. I just noticed if I make a copy of a posting using Internet Explorer I don’t get any of the smiley figures, but if I take a copy using FireFox, I get the text and code for every little smiley there is.
Pete, please follow the Captain’s recommendation (order) and always save you work when you leave one program! I have been fiddling with these computers since the first PC came out in 1981 and it was really necessary back then, but it is still needed now.
I liked the picture of the 2-6-4 WT class tank engine. It is, may I say, very British looking. The rear-end shot shows a very unusual tender configuration, doesn’t it? The diesels are also very interesting looking and very unique.
Allan<
A pint of Holden's Golden Glow please LEON.
DOUG Many thanks for the Fire in Tunnel #9 It seems these things happen when the railroad was at its busiest time, with trains being diverted due to problems on other lines.
Even nature was against the firefighters with the wind unfavorably changing direction.
The joke made me Do I need help, do you think.
DL I seem to remember reading a long time ago that the unions only allowed the fireman to work on the Leader as it was on trials, and if it was put into normal service the conditions for the fireman would have had to be greatly improved. I think I read somewhere that the temperature where the fireman was 120F.
Paul Theroux Kingdom by the Sea book looks like one to look out for, and thanks Tom for the covers of his books. I think the campaign to save the Settle and Carlisle line was a watershed in the British railway line closures.
Congratulations PER for finding the ten differences on the Twenty Dollar notes, I had the 5 M636C had and 4 others so 1 to go.
In England the Hogshead was mainly known as a measure of ale, from the size of the barrel. A hogshead held 54 gallons (almost enough for a Friday night at Our Place). I believe the Railwayman's Arms on the Severn Valley Railway at Bridgnorth had the Bathams in hogsheads.
You are right about the finances, in the British Railway magazines this month there is a big commemoration of the last main line steam engines into London 40 years ago, still being at school I had not the money to go down to see them.
Many thanks for that very interesting and enjoyable post tonight. I will take Tom and your advice and save before coping my post.
The coal bunker on the Irish tank engine looks to have been extended at some time, I wonder if this was done during its working days or after the loco was preserved. I will try to find some photos of the locos in their working days, but sometimes it is hard to find photos of tank engines taken from the back.
RON The Connecticut River Valley Railway is the only line I have had a ride behind steam yet in the States, when we visited a couple of years a go (in fact it was a CRVR cap I wore during the Our Place rendezvous). It was a very enjoyable day. This is a photo of the engine that hauled our train.
I am glad you are enjoying Our Place and I'm sure Tom will be able to stock a good single malt Scotch at the bar.
I hope you liked the photos of the Irish engines and I hope your bride had an enjoyable birthday.
That is very interesting about the Fireless locomotives, it will be interesting to find out they are being used in NZ today
ALLAN Thanks for the links to the NZ railways. They were very interesting English Electric diesels Nos GG 770 and 791 at the Weka Pass Railway. This year is the 50th anniversary of EE's first main line diesels for British Railways, I see the diesels in the link were introduced a year earlier in 1956. Although the cab windows are of a different arrangement there a familiarity in the front end with the EE class 37s and 40s.
The good thing about Our Place is the learning of new stuff. I did not know the O.V.S. Bullied was born in New Zealand. He was probably the last engineer in England to try to develop a radical change to the steam locomotive. I heard it said that the boilers on his pacifics were some of the best steamers in Britain, and I believe he worked under Sir Nigel Gresley at Doncaster Works on the LNER before joining the Southern railway. With this being the 40th anniversary of the end of Southern steam his pacifics are getting a lot of attention at the minute.
ERIC The one you marked on the 20 Dollar puzzle is the one I did not get.
There is a Swedish 2-6-4 tank engine No 1928 for sale in England, unfortunately it is in a dismantled state.
Thanks for those interesting and varied photos. Yes the gauge in Ireland is 5' 3" .
I hope you are getting some good rest in.
MIKE Thanks for the great links, those DD1s have an interesting look about them, great WP diesels in color.
The Glasgow trains the first one showing a Virgin Pendelino is good but it is the second one I find intriguing as I did not know that the class 322 units were being used on the Glasgow services, perhaps DL can shed some light on this. It is a great photo it looks like the dri
Good Afternoon all (In absentia) - Have returned from the frozen north (with the shiny side up!) - will try to resume posting on Tuesday as they already have me covered up for tomorrow.
work safe
2007 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST
(rev. July 15th)
January 14th (Eric - 64)
OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone.
March 5th (Nick - 47)
March 13th (Doug - 51)
BOLL WEEVIL (Feb 20 - March 20) You have an overwhelming curiosity. You're unsatisfied with the surface of things, and you feel the need to bore deep into the interior of everything. Needless to say, you are very intense and driven as if you had some inner hunger. You love to stay busy and tend to work too much. Nobody in their right mind is going to marry you, so don't worry about it.
March 31st (Lars - 67)
MOON PIE (March 21 - April 20) You're the type that spends a lot of time on the front porch. A cinch to recognize the physical appearance of Moon Pies. Big and round are the key words here. You should marry anybody who you can get remotely interested in the idea. A Chitlin would be a good mate but it's not going to be easy. You always have a big smile and are happy. This might be the year to think about aerobics. Maybe not.
May 18th (Tom - 69)
POSSUM (April 21 - May 21) When confronted with life's difficulties, possums have a marked tendency to withdraw and develop a don't-bother-me-about- it attitude. Sometimes you become so withdrawn, people actually think you're dead. This strategy is probably not psychologically healthy but seems to work for you. You are a rare breed. Most folks love to watch you work and play. You are a night person and mind your own business. You should definitely marry an Armadillo.
May 27th (Dave - 48)
CRAWFISH (May 22 - June 21) Crawfish is a water sign. If you work in an office, you're hanging around the water cooler. Crawfish prefer the beach to the mountains, the pool to the golf course, and the bathtub to the living room. You tend not to be particularly attractive physically but have a good heart.
August 11th (Pete - 56)
CATFISH (July 24 - Aug 23) Catfish are traditionalists in matters of the heart, although one's whiskers may cause problems for loved ones. You Catfish are never easy people to understand. You run fast. You work and play hard. Even though you prefer the muddy bottoms to the clear surface of life, you are liked by most. Above all else, Catfish should stay away from Moon Pies.
September 11th (Per - 62)
GRITS (Aug 24 - Sept 23) Your highest aim is to be with others like yourself. You like to huddle together with a big crowd of other Grits. You love to travel though, so maybe you should think about joining a club. Where do you like to go? Anywhere they have cheese, gravy, bacon, butter, or eggs and a good time. If you can go somewhere where they have all these things, that serves you well. You are pure in heart.
September 29th (James - 19)
BOILED PEANUTS (Sept 24 - Oct 23) You have a passionate desire to help your fellow man. Unfortunately, those who know you best, your friends and loved ones, may find that your personality is much too salty, and their criticism will affect you deeply because you are really much softer than you appear. You should go right ahead and marry anybody you want to because in a certain way, yours is a charmed life. On the road of life, you can be sure that people will always pull over and stop for you.
December 29th (CM3 - 61)
Not on the list Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year) Corrections too!
Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
Rush, rush, rush. Hmm, here it is. Push it in through the slot and I am on my way!
A warm day here in the Southwest, 111°F.
Per – I read your response to Tom and your opinion about population density being too low to support rail traffic. Last week I read about France and their high speed rail service. The first line (very succesful) was between Paris and Lyon, two big cities. But the area between those cities does not have a high population density. Now I remember, it was Don Phillips who wrote about it in his article in the latest Trains (August). Among other things he wrote that France is not like New York City and Connecticut, but more like Illinois and Kansas when it comes to population density. If you get a chance, read his article. Most of the passenger cars in Sweden are now being scrapped in Nykroppa, Värmland. The MoW Dining car is the one below.
The X2000 cab looks like that on all the X2000 trains but it is covered by a much better looking plastic nose. OERM is a nice place and obviously so for your son! The way he learned to add and subtract reminds me how I learned to read. It happened “by accident” and took less than two minutes. I still remember it. Pete – The 2-6-4 tank engine #1928 is built 1952, so it is not that old. Ron/DDi – Budweiser the biggest seller in Ireland (but called Guinness)? Learning something new every day! CM3 – back! Hope your vacation was a good one! Looking forward to see you again soon. Tom – I just noticed that Pete has his birthday the same day as my sister! Thanks for the update!
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A smile to begin the week!
I need to go shopping for clothes to shop in.
<A Yogi-ism!>
It's THAT day again - MONDAY, the start of a new work week <for many>. So, best way to get ‘er goin' is to draw a mug of freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee <unleaded> or <regular> - order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board ‘n while you're waitin' ‘n sample a couple of pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case!
An interesting Saturday at the Saloon by the Siding. For a day pretty much put aside for ENCORE! - and - Photo Posting, we seem to have had quite a bit of "normal" activity at the bar throughout the day ‘n evening. Nice going to all who stopped by!
For the benefit of those who are comparative newcomers, or simply have forgotten - we are CLOSED on Sunday (and Christmas Day) at this establishment in order to give at least one day "off" to those who work so hard to keep this place perking along.
Saturday was set aside for ENCORE! Posts largely due to the slack at the bar on that day. So, repeating some worthy Posts ‘n Pix caught on as a way to keep things movin' forward ‘round here AND of course provide a chance to perhaps catch up on something previously missed.
There's nothing hard ‘n fast in any of this - aside from being CLOSED on Sunday - just the way we do things here.
A thought: With this much activity, PERHAPS we can return to our Tuesday Theme for the Day!
For those who don't know, we used to feature a passenger railroad on Tuesday, then watch for the supporting "stuff" from the guys once the Proprietor or one of the guy's kicked it off. Of course we gave ample notice of what the RR was going to be for those who prefer to do some research in advance. If there's interest, we'll try again . . .
The Birthday Watch List was Posted yesterday to acquaint the new guys with another feature of this bar 'n grill!
Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):
Lars (LoveDomes) at 12:31 PM Saturday - July 14th: Surprised but pleased to see our Manager back "up" at the bar so soon after getting home from Florida. Now there's a man who is THINKING about the bar through "evidence" at Posting!
Quite a Post from the Larsman, covered all the bases ‘n then some! Of course enjoyed viewing that list of named trains from the New York Central. Rounded things out quite nicely, Mate!
You struck a chord with me regarding the "demand" for petrol here in the U.S. - You'd think we would've learned something from the contrived oil shortages back in the 70s. With two to deal with within a few years of one another, there were some efforts made to cut back on fuel use. I recall some "downtown" areas going "dark" and so forth. The "odd-even" license plate idea for getting fill ups ‘n all the rest. So here we are into the 21st century ‘n we're worse than ever regarding dependence on petrol from outside of our borders. <nah> <nah> <nah> We just don't want to conserve much less go "full bore" for the alternatives to fossil fuels. <barf>
Yeah, I noticed that a couple of weeks ago you directed a couple of very nice comments to our youngster James - and he's gone! <grin> Best keep your trap shut, Mate! <uh oh>
I think that Dave Dan (DL-UK) cudda saved us all a bunch of grief by simply changing HIS name! Good thinking!
In giving some thought to what you said about having FIFTEEN of us, I think that's really a misleading number. In taking a look at those who are REGULARS, then subtract out those who haven't been ‘round for a week or more, it's easy to see how the numbers rapidly dwindle. But yes, if we were fortunate enough to ever get 4 or 5 to pick a "slot" for Posting, we'd do just fine. On a bright note, Shane is back!
Seems that the Penthouse Suite has been getting some use over the weekends. Should I bother to inquire??? <uh oh>
Glad to have you back with us - even though it seemed like you never left!
Thanx for the round!
Good Morning All
Figured I'd better make an appearance before Tom sent out the Press Gang... again
BTW loved the pictures of the old TTC Cars a bit before my time but they bring back memories.
Been very busy as of late building a retaining wall in the backyard and seeing the last of the renovations being carried out.
Anyway I must run
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #17
Burlington Route
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 129 of the Original Thread>
Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (CB&Q) Burlington Route
Headquarters: Chicago, IL Mileage: 1950: 11,000 (includes subsidiaries, Fort Worth & Denver and Colorado & Southern) Locomotives in 1963: Steam: 10 Diesel: 691 Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars: 41,099 Passenger cars: 925 Principal lines in 1950: Aurora, IL-Minneapolis, MN via Rochelle, IL Chicago-Omaha-Denver via Lincoln, NE Galesburg, IL-Kansas City & St. Joseph, MO via Quincy, IL Savanna & Rock Island, IL-Paducah, KY Burlington, IA-St. Louis via Quincy Omaha-Kansas City via St. Joseph Napier, MO (St. Joseph)-Oxford,NE Table Rock, NE-Billings, MT via Lincoln Billings-Galveston, TX via Thermopolis & Cheyenne, WY & Denver Ashland, NE-Sioux City, IA Galesburg-Peoria, IL Kansas City-St. Louis (trackage rights on GM&) Kansas City-Mexico, MO) Passenger trains of note: Afternoon Zephyr (Chicago-Twin Cities) Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr (Chicago-Lincoln) American Royal Zephyr (Chicago-Kansas City) Black Hawk (Chicago-Twin Cities California Zephyr (Chicago-Oakland, CA; jointly operated with D&RGW and WP) Denver Zephyr (Chicago-Denver-Colorado Springs Empire Builder (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, jointly operated with GN and SP&S) Exposition Flyer (Chicago-Oakland; jointly operated with DR&GW and WP; replaced by California Zephyr in 1949) Kansas City Zephyr (Chicago-Kansas City) Mainstreeter (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, operated jointly with NP and SP&S) Morning Zephyr (Chicago-Kansas City Nebraska Zephyr (Chicago-Lincoln) North Coast Limited (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, jointly operated with NP and SP&S) Pioneer Zephyr (West Quincy-Hannibal, MO) Sam Houston Zephyr (Dallas-Houston) Texas Zephyr (Denver-Dallas) Western Star (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, jointly operated with GN and SP&S) Zephyr Rocket (Minneapolis-St. Louis; jointly operated with RI)
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Some drumheads of the Burlington Route
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, ‘tis the Larsman ‘n a Monday! I've got a powerful <urge>, so make that a double <jolt> in the mugga Joe! <grin> Let me check out the menu while I munch on a few of those lo-cal pastries! <yeah right!>
Hope everyone enjoyed the week's end ‘n are ready to begin anew. We do this 52 times a year dontchaknow!?!
Boris, set up the crittAHs with their treats - you should have it "down" by now!<geesh> Bucket of ice cubes for Frostbite the Penguin. Tray of seeds for Awk the Parrot. Saucer of brine for Tex the Armadillo. And of course a chew bone for Juneau, Resident Huskey! Yes, yes - the large jar of pickled pig's feet is right over there - next to the panty hose container. Panty hose??? What in the world is THAT doing behind the bar??? Maybe some things are just bettAH left alone . . .
Hey guyz! What a Saturday with all of those posts. It's a pace that we haven't seen ‘round the bar in some time. Really appreciate the return of enthusiasm to the joint.
Good to see some "memories" for Encore day. Those two were B4 my time, however, I do remember those two customers. Who wouldn't! Rob was a veritable fixture ‘round here ‘n one can only wonder why he chose to simply walk away from it all. But he did and life goes on.
I believe Red P left us for a reason. He was very unhappy with an exchange or two from our teenager. That set him off ‘n away from the bar for keeps. A shame, but I do understand principal over BS. I'm pretty much the same way. However, I think there's plenty of space ‘round here for the two of ‘em. There'll nevAH be another quite like our PC (and I'm NOT speaking of politically correct!) customer called Red P! <grin>
Cudda fooled me with the descriptions of those two switcher engines. Surely look the same to me. See? What do I know!?!?! <grin>
Hey Pete! What do we have to do in order to get your friend to at least make his presence known at the bar??? For cripes sakes, he's provided so many fine pix, at least we'd like to hoist a tankard or two with the man. Anyway, nice stuff, as always.
Appears that you haven't mastered too much over at Molly Throttlebottom's typing ‘n mud wrestling class. So, maybe we should set you up for a WOID course at Vito the Hit's Computer ‘n Chainsaw Emporium. What say you???
R&H? Why, BEER - of course! <grin> And the colder, the bettAH!
But on the serious side, R&H stood for Rubsam & Horrmann Brewing Company and was Staten Island's "claim to fame" when it came to having an operating brewery. Decades past, there were several, but R&H outlived ‘em all. They had a slogan, "The friendliest beer in town." Gotta think about that one, huh?
Check this out:
Hey Dave! You aren't smoking the "funny stuff" are ya?? How in the world could you have missed 27 MONTHS???!!! Nearly ALL of the posts referred to it. Not to mention the e-mails! Anyway, glad you're baaaaaaaaaack ‘n the standing "freebies" will work quite well as the 12th has a habit of arriving once a month! <grin>
Hey Per! Sounds like you are a sucker willing customer to take on some responsibility ‘round here! BettAH be careful, Cap'n Tom reads the woIds!! <grin> Not to worry, he wouldn't "sand bag" you at least ‘til you're settled into your new digs!
That is quite a list of named trains from the NYC ‘n I'm just not sure which RR had the most. Pennsy surely had a "bunch" - perhaps more.
The "source" I used pegged the NYC at 58. And the Pennsy had 78. Those trains were from the year 1948.
Guess it just depends on the "source" used and the time frames involved. Some lists are for periods (ie: 1940s) whereas others appear to be all inclusive (even if not). I just get a kick out of seeing all those names . . . For me, I'd like to see the names of the trains just with dome cars. Now that would be special.
Hey Ron! Check this out!
Yeah, and my Mrs. is 21 going on 21! Got a chuckle out of that comment of yours. <grin>
Hey Shane! Great to see the return of CM3 to the bar. It's been quite a long haul since you graced these premises. Only complaint I have is that the Coal Scuttle is might low on quarters since you made your rather inglorious exit some weeks ago. Sorry, but you'll have to "double down" on those ‘till we catch up! <grin> Lookin' forward to your "report" on Tuesday!
Hey Eric! Stay COOL out there in H!! <ugh>
Hey Fergie! Good to see again - BUT - no greeting for the barkeep ‘n no order?!?! You're flirting with rocks ‘n shoals, mate! <grin> Surely a TWEETING violation on two counts.
Noted our "m
Hello Tom and all in
I'll have some of those bakery products if anything is available, thanks.
I would have gone for the name change but my brother goes by that name so the parents could have got confused!
Good to see Brief Encounter on at the cinema - a film enjoyed by the ladies but with no shortage of classic era steam action!
I wondered if there was enough room for a grounded Caboose body to be lined up outside Our Place? Is that a useful suggestion Tom, or would it just add to the maintenance liability of the place?
Lars - glad you made it home OK.
Mike - really enjoyed those links - some great colour slides there with a superb depth of colour.
To answer Pete's question - I think some of those EMUs were transferred there (or supplied new) to work on the Ayr route - but I'm not too sure
Here's a picture of a Glasgow Electric train in the classic era - very stylish units there were - and they remained in service until the 1990s:
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10324602&wwwflag=3&imagepos=1
Allan - some good links there - interesting web pages from those organisations - and like Pete I did not know of Bullied's NZ origins. I've always liked the design of the un-rebuilt Pacifics with their unique ‘streamlined' design.
DD1 - yes - you can certainly get fed up if you have to make a tight connection on a train and you have luggage now that the railway porter is a facility long gone.
The UK system of a multiplicity of private contractors (who run services to a specified level contracted by the government and receive subsidy to do it) is in my mind a wasteful design of system and has never provided any better quality of service than the system did when wholly run by the state (British Railways) - oh - and the system now costs 5 times the subsidy the old BR costs (at equivalent prices) yet does not deliver significantly more in terms of outputs for the travelling public!
I've never been to Ireland but I think I would enjoy taking the train in that country with its beautiful scenery.
Incidentally - I'm aware of some fireless boiler engines that operated in the UK . Some pics here
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/foxfield/fireless_no_1.htm
And I think one loco is preserved at the Midland Railway centre here in England (formerly from the Boots Chemist company factory site)
DL
G-day Tom and all present!!
Ruth- I can't believe how long I have been gone.... This has never happened before.. Oh well, If you could get me a turkey sandwich and an OJ, that would really help me out. Thanks so much. Keep the change and get a round for the guys. Thanks.
Okay.... Well, I'm not completely sure were to start.. I have been looking over some of the stuff over the last few days as I got the time to look around and I have to say, you guys do an amazing job at keeping this place going. I am getting into the pictures and the information is endless. Just when you think you can't go any further in the subject something new pops up. I am truly amazed. Sorry for not showing up on Thursday. I told Tom that I would and then found myself working the whole day from about 10 am all the way to 10 pm.... But I have to say HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! You guys have brought this place far and it should keep going. Even if my summers are a little harsh, I will still come around and talk. I won't forget.
Now onward to a few acknowledgements.
Tom- I don't know how you can do it, but you do an amazing job at keeping this place up and running. I am impressed with all of the nostalgia. With your piece from Rob, it made me wonder whether he is going to come back. He always had some good articles on trolleys and I had some good conversations with him. I hope he's not lost forever. <sniffle>
And another couple of nice pics from whom I have never met. Red P must have been an engineer just by his sur name. Some neat pics from the pennsy. Thanks
Ah and a birthday list is up. I've always "cracked" up that I'm boiled peanuts. It seems so.. So me..
Now I like the idea of the theme of the day. I have missed that little section of this thread. It always seemed a little lonely without it.
And some more great stuff on the Burlington road. Always a classic railroad to talk about. They certainly had some neat locos and there history is just as fascinating. You can certainly tell that steam was all but eradicated. Only 10 steamers existed and almost 700 diesels were around in 1960s. Thanks for keeping this place going.
Pete- You have so many great photos to go around that there aren't enough compliments to go with them. You have always come up with some nice pictures and these are even better. Alan took some good pics from Ireland..... I wonder what those locos are?? They look similar to the BQ23-7. Something like that. Thanks for the pics.
I really liked the CRVR steamer. When you said that was the only steamer pulled excursion you have ridden in... that may not be the last one either. Here in Duluth we are working on a Steam loco and we want it running by this fall. It's the SOO Line #2719. So if you guys get up here in the next couple of years, I can certainly get you on a steam excursion or any other train ride you want.
I see we have a new comer. DD1 has joined our little tavern by the tracks. Hope you find this place to be of interest to you. I'm 19 years of age and I find absolutely fascinating. There always some neat stuff to go around. Once again Welcome.
Dave- When I read your stuff I am agog of what you know. Some of the guys around here call you the passenger expert and now I can see why. You know a lot about passenger trains, especially the SP. Thanks for your nostalgia. It fits in well here at the little Tavern. I am looking forward to more great info. Thanks
Eric- I am always surprised by the amount of pics you seem to post. And all them are great. That ATSF GP35 war bonnet caught my eye. To find a war bonnet here in Superior, Wisconsin is becoming increasingly rare. So I would get pics of them whenever you can. Thanks for all of the neat pics. That Bipolar is still a cool sight. Thanks again. Also nice picture of the MOW dining car. The MOW equipment has changed drastically over the last few years. The equipment used now is so much more advanced and it makes track work much easier. Have any of you guys seen A MOW train? They are neat!!
Per- You certainly have come to know this place well, I see your still on track with us, which is a good thing. Now I have not asked you before, but do you model any railroad You probably know what I model since I talk about it and it's in my sig too. The Milwaukee Road is my favorite of the bunch. Some nice passenger trains and the greatest and most famous electrics in the United States. I will have to get a few articles going on the railroad. I could talk about the Milwaukee Road for hours... But that can get boring. Thanks for sticking around.
Lars- Good to see you back on the thread. You know, I'm going to spruce this place a little more with my posts. I will be around a couple times today. So It should be a good day here beside the tracks. I see your back with some good stuff for all to view. And see Tom has sparked the Burlington railroad as the featured railroad for the day. And
Good afternoon Tom, Ruth and everyone at the bar. It's lunchtime around here so I won't be long.
Tom: I'm guessing the voices of Burt and Harry were Bob and Ray. Remember the "La Touraine" coffee ads in Boston that used the Muppets in their TV ad? Spent all of Sunday going through boxes of old photos looking for some railroad pics, but haven't come up with any yet, only a pic of a cogway going up a hill in Valparaiso, Chile. It's more of an inclined elevator than a train, so I won't include it
DL: Thanks for the great info on fireless boiler engines. BTW, have you or anyone who has visited the UK ever noticed that all railway structures, including stations, tunnels, embankments and just about everything that has to do with railways, are built from bricks? Even today I think it is still the practice. I'm guessing it's a union thing. It seems it's a labor intensive thing as opposed to concrete and steel construction. While I was in Ireland, I rode a few trains on a broad gauge. Do you know if the Royal Scot train will ever appear in the U.S. again? I didn't get to see it the first time around. I did see the SP, no. 4449 in '76 colors when it was in San Francisco.
To all: Is everyone here into model railroads and have layouts? I like everyone else, started out with Lionel or American Flyer, but switched to O or HO after the Christmas tree came down. I was poor, I had a Marx train set, but some Lionel later. I had a pretty extensive HO layout when I was around 14. Remember "Truscale" self-gauging wood roadbed? I was in and out of it after joining the labor force and of course discovering girls. I dabbled in "N" gauge for a while, but settled on "G" gauge due to eye problems. I still build some locomotives and cars in 1-1/2" scale. I tried live steam, but it was too expensive. I have a 4-4-0 camelback that I built from wood and some metals. It is powered by a 12V motor from a sidewalk kids car. It is a cheap way to get into large scale operating trains. I'm also an avid woodworker. The two go hand-in-hand.
I enjoyed all the photos and older posts over the weekend and hope to be able to contribute more as time goes on. Got to go and get ready for a doctor's visit. Nothing serious, just routine. See ya'll later.
Good afternoon Tom and all. After reading the post on the birthdays of the members, it appears, at 72, I'm the oldest of the lot. I hope I can keep up with you young whippersnapers. Later.
P.S. Thanks Mike for the link to the DD-1 photo that I have added as my avitar.
Not bad thus far for a Monday, as we've seen Lars (our Manager), Dan (DL-UK), James (CMSTPP) ‘n two visits from Ron (DD1). Nice going! My comments will be in tomorrow's morning summary . . .
Continuing on with Pix from Day Four: Sunday - May 27th, 2007 - ExpoRail Canadian Railway Museum at Delson/Saint-Constant, Quebec, Canada
Final swing through the grounds (cont'd)
Napierville Junction (NJ #34) Caboose - Built by Delaware &Hudson (1912).
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Stelco #9 - Gas Electric - Built by Porter (1928)
The first functioning loco at ExpoRail -p nicked named "Sans-pareil" <Without Equal> by Museum volunteers
Waiting for the trolley
Last ride of the day!
Next up - VIA Rail to Gaspe, Quebec . . . .
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
RON You are right about the beer you grow up with, although in England in the late 1960s and 1970s a lot of the smaller breweries were taken over and them closed. It seems, sadly, that a similar thing has been happening over the last few years, with breweries from our young days being no longer around.
I think the main reason most of the tunnels and stations in Britain are made of brick is the age of them. The Southern Railway in the 1930s went for concrete in a big way but of course only for new stations or those that needed rebuilding. Concrete was used in the building of the West Highland extension from Fort William to Mallaig in Scotland.
This line which appears in the Harry Potter films, (Apart from the first one) the ‘Hogwart's Express appears on Glenfinnon Viaduct. The line also has a 6 days a week steam special in the summer months.
Although I don't do any modeling myself, yet, I enjoy them greatly.
ERIC. Try to keep cool in that heat 111F.Still love that sign on the corner of the UP MOW Dining Car.
The X2000 cab has little of the look of a BR class 90 electric loco without the plastic nose.
Great sunrise/sunset photo.
FERGIE Good to see in the bar again. Hope the building of your retaining wall is going well, and it is not too hot there for working.
LARS It is great to see RUTH so happy again (I wont say a word about THAT container).
Yes it was great Saturday at the bar.
Thanks for the kind words on Alan's photos I will see if he will call in, but he is not spending much time near his computer lately.
NO I am not doing too well in Molly's Typing and Mud Wrestling class in fact I finished below BORIS. I have heard that you get your Diploma before your take any classes at Vito the Hit's Woid course but later you are liable to get a call in the middle of the night asking for ‘favor'.
Thanks for the R&H beer info, I too wonder what they meant by the ‘Friendliest Beer in Town' slogan, perhaps it did not leave you with a hangover the next day. One British beer slogan I recall, I think for Mackinson, was the "Looks Good, Tastes Good And, By Golly It Does You Good".
Many thanks for the Zephyr and the Burlington Route book covers.
DL I think the small subclass of five 322 units were built for the Stanstead Airport service since these units no longer work these services they must have spread their wings.
Great link to the Scottish ‘Blue Electrics' Terance Cuneo poster. I see it is the one hundred years anniversary this year of Mr. Cuneo's birth. They were stylish units I think a few finished up in the Manchester area.
Thanks for the link to the Fireless locomotives. I remember there used to be one along side the Stafford to Wolverhampton line at a chemical works; it always looked in good condition. I have not heard of it happening, but it must have happened, a fireless loco being stranded from its steam supply, if there was only the one loco, I wonder how they got it back to the steam supply.
JAMES Good to see you at the bar with a great post. Sorry you had to work such a long day on the anniversary, as you see we have some new folks at the bar.
Many thanks for the offer for a trip on Soo Line #2719 hopefully I can get up to Duluth some time. I made a mistake when I said the CRVR was the only steam trip in the U.S so far. What I should have said was only Standard gauge steam trip, as I have been on the marvelous Cumbres & Toltec and the Durango railroads.
Looking forward to your photos.
TOM Enjoyed seeing the Birthday list again it is amazing how my Catfish sign does seem to suit me (apart from the ‘run fast' part), I wonder why it tells me to stay away from ‘M
Leon- Could I get a beef sandwich along with a coffee, thanks. Keep the change.
Okay, I am back with an article that may be of interest around here and a few pics to follow.
The Duluth, Winnipeg and Pacific Railway
The Duluth, Winnipeg and Pacific Railway (DW&P) (AAR reporting marks DWP, DWC) is a subsidiary railroad of Canadian National Railway (CN) operating in northern Minnesota. A CN system-wide rebranding beginning in 1995 has seen the DWP logo and name largely replaced by its parent company. The DWP line serves as CN's connection between International Falls and Duluth, Minnesota, where the railroad connects to a short stretch of the former Duluth, Missabe and Iron Range Railway before following the former Wisconsin Central (both now wholly owned by CN) to Chicago, Illinois.
The Duluth, Virginia and Rainy Lake Railway (DV&RL) started construction at Virginia, Minnesota in 1901, with the line extending to Silver Lake, Minnesota when the company was purchased by the Canadian Northern Railway (CNoR) who renamed it the Duluth, Rainy Lake and Winnipeg Railway (DRL&W).
Construction continued in 1908 to extend the line to International Falls, Minnesota where the DW&P bridged the Rainy River on the International Boundary to cross into Fort Frances, Ontario and an interchange with the CNoR mainline between Winnipeg, Manitoba and Port Arthur, Ontario.
In 1909, CNoR renamed the DRL&W to the present name of Duluth, Winnipeg and Pacific Railway (DW&P), the year that construction started to achieve access to Duluth, Minnesota. Duluth was reached in 1912, providing interchange with several US railways.
The DW&P mainline ran for 167 miles from Duluth Junction at Fort Frances (CN interchange) to DW&P Junction (Great Northern Railway interchange).
Following the bankruptcy of the CNoR system and its subsequent nationalization by Canada's federal government under the Canadian National Railways (CNR), the DW&P was maintained as an important connection for CNR to the upper mid-western states.
During the post-war era, the DW&P line was upgraded to handle an increase in freight and unit train traffic, such as potash, lumber and paper. In 1960 CNR changed its name to "Canadian National/Canadien National" (CN) and introduced a radical new paint scheme and logo. At the same time, DW&P was changed to just DWP and given a logo of similar flowing design to the CN "noodle". CN's other US subsidiary, Grand Trunk Western Railroad also underwent a similar name/acronym change to Grand Trunk Western (GT).
DWP began to play an increasingly important role for CN in the 1990s, following the implementation of the Canada-US Free Trade Agreement (FTA), and later the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which contributed to increases in Canadian exports south and US imports north. The DWP provided the most direct connection from CN's western Canadian trackage to the major US interchanges at Chicago, Illinois, however unlike rival Canadian Pacific Railway which had its own <
Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."
The Missabe Road: Safety First
DWP began to play an increasingly important role for CN in the 1990s, following the implementation of the Canada-US Free Trade Agreement (FTA), and later the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which contributed to increases in Canadian exports south and US imports north. The DWP provided the most direct connection from CN's western Canadian trackage to the major US interchanges at Chicago, Illinois, however unlike rival Canadian Pacific Railway
Please excuse that first post. My friend was logged in under the computer.... and I didn't know and posted under his name... Don't ask me how... But it won't let me delete the first one so it's stuck there..... Sorry for the double post again.
James
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I'll have a Sugar Cured Ham Sandwich, please! No, coffee! Thank you!
A quick visit between the thunderstorms.
Tom – I heard some stuff about the Penthouse Suite and I don’t think you want to know what is going on there. July will be over before it even started for real. You don’t remember what I told you about the X2000 being like a Tiger tank under the plastic nose? Wow, your memory is as bad as mine! I am glad you could “solve” the Zephyr "mystery" picture!I think high speed rail can compete with the airlines at distances of up to 300 miles. Maybe even 400 miles depending on how fast trains we are talking about. I agree, transit is something else.Burlington Route! Looked at the Passenger trains of note and wonder why one was called Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr? Sounds kind of Arabic to me. Thanks for the ExpoRail pictures! I like those caboose pix. No explaining signs inside, looks more like it was when it was used. Fergie – Good to see you back safe on land! Come back soon!Lars – I am trying to stay cool, 114°F today. Thanks for the book covers! So many books and I have so little money!DL – Today there are two fireless boiler engines preserved in the old country. At least one of them is operational. James – Glad you liked the pictures! I’ll check to see if I have any more ATSF GP35 war bonnet. I have seen a few MoW trains the last 12 months and they have more modern equipment now. Interesting info on DWP! Do they still use locomotives with the DWP paint scheme? Nice pictures!Ron/DD1 – Don’t have a layout right now, but a lot of model trains. After my retirement I’ll try to make room for a layout somewhere in the house. Most is HO, some N and some G. Hope the doctor’s visit went well!Pete – As I already told Lars, we had 114° today and tonight a dust storm followed by some lightning, thunder and rain. And now another storm is coming up from the south. The monsoon seems to be here. 86 days since we had any rain, so we need it.
Since it was a Burlington Monday I am adding some Burlington pix (reruns).
I don't know if I will have time tonight for a visit. If not I'll probably be back Thursday or Friday morning!
Who's ready for coffee, pastries ‘n breakfast We are! So, let's kick off this Tuesday with a little something . . .
Fergie (Fergmiester) at 6:44 AM Monday - July 16th: Awfully difficult for me to <tweet> a fellow sailor who really never has been a professed regular ‘round here. So, he get's a pass - for now! <grin>
The "Press Gang" . . . . hmmmmm, not a bad idea! Wonder where all THAT began!
Nice to see you're model RR herald gracing our establishment once again! Best of the bunch in my opinion!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:03 AM Monday - July 16th: You surely outdid yourself with that Post, Mate! Great stuff - fine narrative, beer trays ‘n book covers - nice going!
Yeah, you're correct about Red P ‘n young James being at odds about a year or so back. Guess James has forgotten those days <daze> - best to put it all behind anyway. What's the point, eh But, Red P ‘n his PennCentral was always good for "something" <grin> . . .
I have some recollections of R&H beer that go way back. My uncle was a journeyman plumber who hired me as his apprentice (bad move on his part!). Anyway, the summer after high school graduation, he got a contract with the R&H Brewery to "re-pipe" the place. Quite a summer indeed! <urp>
Really liked that Bert & Harry Piel cartoon tray . . .
Oh yeah, Juneau wants you to know there's no "E" in Husky! <grrrrrr>
Panty hose container???!!!
Some fine looking observation dome cars on those Zephyrs!
Thanx for the visit!
Dan (DL-UK) at 11:37 AM Monday - July 16th: The idea of a caboose "annex" to "Our" Place is a grand idea and one that we've kicked ‘round before. In fact, if you've been able to view the Pix from our 2nd Annual Rendezvous (along with some earlier in the year when Pete visited ‘n got stuck during the ice storms in January) - the TrainWreck Saloon (prototype structure for "Our" Place) has just such an arrangement!
Links proved most interesting and I concur about the good looks of those Scottish rail cars. That little loco reminds me of a "bomb" on the tracks. Don't know why, but "boom" should be the caption. Looks dangerous . . .
Appreciate the visit!
James (CMSTPP) at 12:40 PM Monday - July 16th: At your stage of life, you SHOULD have other things on your mind and occupying your time than being here in the Ether along with those of us who for some strange reason think this is fun! <grin> <groan>
The pace of things ‘round this joint is ALWAYS set by the customers. The more interest they show, the more active I get. It's pretty simple. Glad you are finding this place to your liking . . .
Feel the same way about the removal of Rob from our "active" list - he's now OH-FISH-UL-LEE a permanent member of The Legion of the Lost. Life goes on, no point in dwelling on the reasons why - it's most times a matter of personal choice. Exceptions do exist - BudKarr (BK) for example. Life holds many twists ‘n turns for each of us . . .
No "theme" with anything I've put up today - just "stuff" to generate some conversations. Check out my "opening" comments in today's summary . . . maybe we'll get back to Tuesday "themes" - depends on the interest.
Thanx for the round ‘n for not completely forgetting about us!
Ron (DD1) at 12:50 PM ‘n 2:02 PM Monday - July 16th: Man, you ARE O-L-D!! <grin> But ya know
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