Hello Tom and all in
Round for the house - just a quick call to drop off a message for Rob (or anyone else likely to be in Toronto at the date below) - Rob I just picked this up off a message board I use re vintage films - these will be good - but I relasie it depends on committments and of course possible costs. Thought I'd mention it in case the 'heads up' was of interest.
BTF = British Transport Films (see www.britishtransportfilms.co.uk )
Regards to all
DL
Something of interest to our North American subscribers
The manager and a programmer of the CFC Worldwide Short Film Festival
(WSFF) in Toronto, Canada is planning to include several BTF titles at
this year's event.
The WSFF is North America's premier event for short film, bringing
filmmakers, buyers, distributors, and the public together each June,
and qualifying films for the BAFTA Awards and the Oscars. Each year
they have a special program dedicated to archival titles - including
training and promotional pieces, public service announcements, and
other ephemeral films - that comprise an important and often
startlingly entertaining body of short film work.
The following BTF films are to be considered for inclusion via the BFI:-
Make a Train, 1979
Our Canteens, 1957
Promises, Promises, 1982
Old Sam the Signalman, 1982
People Like Us, 1962
The Finishing Line, 1977
Crossing the Railway Safely, 1967
A Desperate Case, 1958
Emergency, 1962
Joe Brown at Clapham, 1965
I Am a Litter Basket, 1959
Why Bother?, 1956
Last year's selection of archival safety films from the 1930s to 1970s
was received by an extremely enthusiastic audience, and the National
Film Board of Canada has had substantial interest in some of the
titles we screened from their library.
Programming information for the festival should be released around May
22 or 23 on www.worldwideshortfilmfest.com
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. The sun is out here today, but the Weather Guessers say we are about to head into a protracted stretch of rain, snow, clods, etc. Gas went up to $3.39/gal. here yesterday - no reason, just ‘cause they can, I guess.
Pete was in with comments and pictures. I enjoyed the steamship picture and the 0-4-0 as well. Maybe it was used as a shop switcher at Crewe? Incidentally, NP Slumbercoaches were named for Lochs. I remember having space in Loch Katrine one time.
Allan was by with comments as was Eric. ORER was issued monthly. Thing to do is try and get one from the year of your Official Guide.
Rob visited with pictures and historical information. Lease power is a puzzlement sometimes as you try and figure out where it came from originally. We don't see as much of it here as we did a few yrs back as CSX is apparently able to keep up with their power requirements (for a change).
OSP - I'll try to remember Tidewater pictures for the Rendezvous - which way to Newport News?
Here's some 1950-era agent copy Missouri Pacific material.
The Texas Eagle: Daily between St. Louis-Memphis-Little Rock and principal Texas cities. Through sleepers between New York, Washington, and Texas.
The Missouri River Eagle: Daylight service between St. Louis-Kansas City-Lincoln-Omaha.
The Delta Eagle: Daily between Memphis-Helena-Tallulah.
The Colorado Eagle: Overnight between St. Louis-Kansas City-Pueblo-Colorado Springs-Denver.
The Valley Eagle: Daylight service between Houston-Corpus Christi-Rio Grande Valley and Brownsville.
These Five Eagles Star in West-Southwest
Here's an easy way to solve your routing problems to, from and throughout the West-Southwest. Just remember the word "Eagle." For "Eagle" identifies Missouri Pacific's fine streamlined trains that have won great favor with the traveling public. This one word exemplifies those standards of performance so necessary in modern transportation: Speed, safety, diesel-powered smoothness and dependability. Give your patrons "Eagle" as the answer to their question, "What train do you recommend?" They'll appreciate the beauty, comfort and convenience of the Eagles. You save them money, too, for there is no extra fare on any Eagle!
Work safe
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Wednesday's Witticism
Young liars turn into old thieves.
G'day Gents!
It's mid-week AND our 35th Monthiversary . . . moving right along . . . coffee's ready - donuts fresh ‘n breakfasts to order from our Menu Board!
Comments from the Proprietor
Looks like I made the 3,900th reply AND turned the Page to 196 at the same time! I'll have RUTH, fix me a double hit of JD with that OJ . . . <grin>
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Page 196 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:50 AM: Nice book review . . . I've got a couple on back order with amazon.com - try to build the library on "gift days" <B'day - Christmas - Father's day> otherwise things remain static. Will take under keen advisement all recommendations!
The mere sound ‘n sighting of the descriptor "Tidewater" brings to mind another place - the southern Virginia area where I used to live - where Norfolk, Portsmouth, Chesapeake, Virginia Beach ‘n Hampton made up the moniker. Was a great place to live . . . spent a most happy nearly 5-years there . . .
Sage advice regarding preparing submissions on the WP . . . been one of my constant reminders over the years. <grin>
Page 196 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:51 AM ‘n 10"58 AM: Nice quartet of fotos along with a twofer from our Resident Ontario Connection!
I use the SEARCH feature quite a bit, but not to check on the UTBs . . . admittedly, when my curiosity gets the best of me - then it's a source of facts. Rather KNOW than GUESS is the way I look at it.
Origin of the Good Gawd Gertie expression <that you stole> comes from way back in my childhood when my grandpa <maternal> used to express his chagrin at my mother in that manner . . . now you <'n everyone in cyber space> KNOWS!
Already have a "pretty thing" from Canada - ain't in the market for ‘nother one! <uh oh> How's that for covering one's . . . caboose
Page 196 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:13 PM ‘n 5:59 PM: With regard to the SEARCH feature - be sure that you type in exactly what your cyber name looks like - pwolfe - I just did it ‘n it worked for me. Once again: Click on SEARCH - wait for the window - click on SEARCH again - two blank lines will come up - fill in your cyber name on the 2nd line - click SEARCH <there will be 2 "SEARCH" areas - click the one inside the "box">. You should get all of your Posts <or the Posts for any cyber name you put in>.
Email responded to . . . thanx!
A bit surprised that no one else picked up on the Johnny Cash song - that was a "biggie" for him ‘n kinda fit the moment for Nick.
Whatever the time is <or should be> in the UK has no bearing on the time in Mentor Village . . . so let's ensure that you not dawdle Mondays away - especially after taking a weekend "off"! <uh oh>
Many thanx for taking the time to provide us with the descriptions to accompany those 5 fotos! That little vessel sure has a fancy name! Yeah, I think Lars would've enjoyed the guy in the engine room. Good looking double-decker bus . . .
We saw a caboose or two in use during our Alaskan Rail Adventure . . . so they haven't been totally relegated to parks, museums ‘n static displays. <groan>
Page 196 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:31 PM ‘n 10:05 PM: No point in lamenting those who haven't been ‘round since Moby Dick was a minnow <yeah, go ahead ‘n steal that one too>- they drift in ‘n out and NEVER catch up nor do I believe they care to. We're now at five who may be considered as regulars . . . one more loss ‘n I'll have to rethink this surreal world of ours . . .
Good read with your CF7 submission!
Thanx for the twofer ‘n cash for "whenever" . . .
Page 196 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:46 PM: While the eastern portion of what we call the mid-west was getting swacked by that monster storm system, we escaped it all. Today we're heading close to the 70s (F) as spring appears to have arrived. But wait . . . "they" are calling for one last gasp of winter early next week. <grin> Ya gotta luv it . . .
You hit the nail on the head regarding railways being a national asset - bet many people don't think of ‘em that way. Problem in this country is our Congress doesn't seem to recognize the value of passenger rail UNLESS of course THEY need to jump aboard because airlines are grounded. Isn't that always the way
Appreciate the recognition of the Posts ‘n pleased to know they provide the interest ‘n enjoyment intended!
Good eavesdropping . . . and many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Wednesday - April 12th:
Page 196 - Eric <EricX2000) at 12:41 AM: Cut the grass, eh Surprised you have any! <grin> Sweep the sand is my image of the desert! Anyway, glad the weather ‘n temps please ya . . .
I've said it before - Amtrak is NOT a system. For if it was, there'd be no such thing as that ridiculous "layover" you mentioned. Nor would incoming trains just miss outgoing ones by minutes BY SCHEDULE. <geesh> What a way to run a railroad . . .
"They" are predicting four bucks for gas before too long . . . you'll just have to make up the difference by perhaps skipping a visit to the Cracker Barrel! <uh oh>
Many thanx for the info on that Baldwin . . .
Appreciate the visit ‘n inclusive Post! And . . . a ROUND!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Tom
Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!
Leon, a perfect evening for my Rumpsteak Café de Paris! A cold Tui, please! A round for the house! This should cover it, keep the change.
A beautiful day here in the desert in the low 80's. Mowed the lawn and pulled some weeds.
Tom – That is the reason I am buying a laptop, to be able to get in touch when I am traveling! Checked the possibility to take the train to the rendezvous. 55 hrs. Sunset Limited from here to San Antonio, TX and Texas Eagle from San Antonio to St. Louis. $123 each way. Almost 9 hours layover in San Antonio.
I used to be a member of a video club once and I always forgot to return those movies I didn't want. Now we have about 35-40 movies that still are wrapped in plastic and we have never watched them. Crazy!?! Interesting books! The Amtrak book has a former F40 on the cover. One of those that lost its diesel engine and is used as a cab car now. Has big doors on the sides for freight/luggage. You asked for more info on the steam locomotive in my photo. It is a Baldwin 2-6-2 built 1922 for the Cascade Timber Company of Reliance, Washington. In 1942 the Ventura County Railway acquired the locomotive and renumbered it as No. 2. It was used to move war supplies from Southern Pacific at Oxnard to the Naval Construction Battalion supply base at Port Hueneme, CA. Ventura County Railway No. 2. Orange Empire Railway Museum, Perris, CA.CM3 – That is exactly the kind of information I am interested in! I have to find one of those books. I’ll try eBay. Rob – It is a dry heat! Shoveling snow is not good for you when you are middle age or older. Can easily give you a heart attack so you better be careful!Who was nice enough to cancel your snowstorm? Must be a nice guy! Nice photos! The VIA train is a short one, only three cars. I can see the signal lights outside the loco numbers. Do they still use those lights?Very interesting info on Santa Fe’s CF7! I didn’t know they had that many. I wonder if there is any of those rebuilt ones left in service today? Pete – Thanks for the link. Bellerophon looks very nice nowadays! Much better with some nice paint job done. If it had been beer in your black bag instead of soda pop you would probably have tried to drink it instead of wiping it!Thanks for the photos. Nice looking little steamer! Seems to be a compound machine. 51218 is a small engine, perfect for the sharp curves you mentioned. Allan – Have I been to Cracker Barrel yet? I was there four times last week and I’ll go there twice this week. Getting close to my 2,500th visit. It takes longer now to get enough visits since I am only working 20 hrs/week. Interesting to learn about the NZ government buying back the railroads! Who is going to operate the trains in the future?
Eric
Hi again Leon I see that Allan has popped in always good to see him early in the morning his time Yes it was an absolute dump 'o' snow. mind you I''m not sure what it's likein Missouri where Tom is but in Southwestern Ontario , March has always produced the biggest and nastiest snowstorms.I'm young enough yet that I can still move the snow the old fashioned way,we don't have a garage either so storage for a snowblower is a bit tough as I don't like having gasoline powered equipment stored inside the house with us, we use an electric lawnmower for the same reason.I'm glad that you were / are enjoying the re-rolls of some of the old stuff from the other thread, if anything they hopefully create some disscussion amongst the guys.
With that here is another one for everyone to puruse.
CLASSIC DIESEL'S #8 THE CF7 The CF7 At the end of the 1960's the ATSF found itself with several hundred F7 frieght diesels that were out of a job. They had been bumped from mainline frieght duties by high horse power hood units , and their carbody configuration made them unsuitable for the branchline and local duties where they were needed. Santa Fe could not afford to to buy several hundred new units for this type of work and the F7's mechanically still had many usefull years left in them. So the Sante Fe decided to convert them ( F7's ) to hood units.Two factors influenced this decision : 1) The desire to keep the shop at Clerburne Tx busy , 2) The financial advantage of a capitol rebuilding program, which let them treat the rebuilt locomotives as new, therefore enabling them to depreciate their value over a period of several years. The rebuilding process was complicated by the basic difference between cab units,such as the F7, and a hood unit. A hood unit is essentially a flat frame carrying a diesel engine,and a generator and controls, with sheet metal hoods protecting them and the crew from the weather. A cab unit was designed so that the sides carry part of the weight of the machinery. Remove the sides and the frame will sag. Fabricating new frames was a major part of the conversion process from F7 to CF7 . At first glance, the CF7 looks like a GP7 that has had it's short hood lowered.It differs from a GP7 in having a shorter , short hood and a longer cab ; the side members of the frame are also quite different. Most of the CF7's were built with a curved cab roof ; the last 54 had an angled cab roof that can accomodate a roof mounted air conditioner.Mechanically the CF7's are the same as the GP7 1500hp 567 prime mover and the assosiated gen set. All refurbished as needed, but the original as installed powerplant from their F7 days. Sante Fe built 233 CF7's between 1970 and 1978. In the early 80's the road began to phase them out and discovered a ready market for them in the various short lines and regional railroads. Many are onto their third and forth owners, in may cases running with thier purcgasers longer than with their builder. The CF7 was likely one of the most ambitious rebuilding schemes attempted by a class one. Eclipsd only by some of the switcher rebuilds and GP7 and 9 conversions done by the UP and ICG to name just two. Enjoy Rob
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please.
Pete. Many thanks for the Rocket 150 Rainhill set of photo`s mate , a really terrific and historic set of photo`s and are all keepers! Thanks also for the nice pic of Blue Peter and all of your other great pics, I remember the Newcastle steam pilot very well, it was always kept in a "*** and span" gleaming polish all the time until it was withdrawn, can`t remember the year? Was that Alexander double decker a Guy or a Leyland? It looks more like a Guy radiator to my old eyes! The Pug loco looked really cute and some nice shots of that Loch steamer trip and the SS Sir Walter Scott. I`ve just about given up hope with the Toon and their continuing losing streak!
Rob. Wow, what a great dump of snow at your place, looks as if you need to borrow Tom`s snow blower to clear that lot. Enjoyed all your nice pics at Battlecreek and Bayview and all the re-posts of your Classic Steam series, the boat train one was neat, and the Weird Tales from the Barn about Trolley`s and Teddy Roosevelt was really interesting, many thanks.
Eric. Have you been to the Cracker Barrel at all yet? Nice pics of the DM 3 and IORE loco`s, Pete`s famous black bag,and all your other pics and info. Very interesting info on the CNW left hand running with most RR`s running right hand over there.
Cm3. Hope your feeling much better now? Some interesting memories of Steamtown and the re-railing frog hanger story.
Nick. A very colourful set of photo`s of the UK trains and the onr of your model Rly, and the RNAD narrow gauge Rly at Trecwn. A very tempting menu you posted, where do I start? Have just about given the Toon away now after their latest loss, will have to send Kevin Keagan an e-mail with a very big "Hurry up" message!
Tom. Congratulations on making the 3,900th post. Could have sworn i`d entered both those competitions, must be that "CRAFT" episode again? That was a great link of Mike`s to that Youtube video on Lars`s favourite Dome cars, nice lot of info on BITD of the California Zephyr and what a great set of pics of your Rendezvous I and II and all the guys` taking part, your`s and Pete`s KC trip, and your Canadian trip pics with Fergies 1st Command, plus the Patron`s Pix #15, and the Can Am Library hardcover book selection, another veritable feast to behold! The NZ government is now in the process of buying back the whole railway system from Toll Holdings, they are at the stage of confirming the final amount of $$$`s, they should`nt have been sold off in the first place! It`s such stategic national asset to be in private ownership. Oh, nearly forgot to mention the weekend flicks`, saw Will Hay`s "Oh, Mr Porter" when Iwas "knee high to a grasshopper", Will usually played a bumbling schoolmaster in most of his movies, can`t remember seeing "Wings" at all? Did that big storm affect you at all? By the look of Rob`s yard it was a gi-normous dump of snow! [A fifer today!]
See ya, Allan
Good evening Leon, I think I'll have a keith's and here's some extra for the managers slush fund ie for bar activities such as parties etc.Another slow one at the old bar but still some interesting stuff fer sure fer sure
Pete-Looks like the afternoon was yours sir, thanks for helping out. Indeed would be nice to see a few more even irregulars jumping in once in a while. To answer your question yes you an see into and go down into both the boiler room and the engine room which are back to back midships. The dinners are really good,so are the lunches. There are several different cruises to choose from on both vessels of the Muskoka fleet.Have a peek at their website.
http://www.realmuskoka.com/
Great pictures of that little steam engine as well.Loved the link to the steam locomotive as well.
I would think that with all the network of track and infrastructure in place that they would order more electric loco's for freight. Certainly electric locomotives have more tractive effort as almost all their hp is aplied to the rails unlike steam or deisel's. Diesel locomotives are generally cheaper to buy though so economics at that end may have had something to do with it. Mind you savings at that end,will be eaten up by the cost of the fuel.
Rob
Hi Tom and all.
I'm back LEON with some photos, so a round please.
These are the photos of the steamship. They were taken on September 25th 2000 during the Highland Steam Festival. Between the days on which there was the steam locomotives on the main line there was organised tours, to old lines and other places of transport interest. This is at Loch Katerine and we had a cruise on the S.S. Sir Walter Scott in the photo.
On this day we travelled by the preserved W Alexander preserved classic double-decker bus
I am sure Lars would enjoy this photo.
I found this photos of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway 'Pug' 0-4-0 saddle tank working at the Middleton Railway in Leeds.The Middleton Railway celebrates the 250th anniversary of its founding in 1758 this year, it was the first railway to have an Act of Parliament to authorise to building of the line.
No 51218 would have been used in dockyards and locations where there were sharp curves when it's short wheelbase would be useful.Looking at a couple of books I see she was allocated to Preston and two sheds in the Liverpool area at some time in the 1950s, which have dockyards. I see also 51218 was at Crewe South shed it would be interesting to know what she was used for there.
Well LEON a quick Bathams please.
Pete.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
NICK. Hope you survived the storm with no damage. There are some photos of the large waves off the Cornish coast in the Daily Mail web site.
Many thanks for the narrow gauge photos it is good to see those R.N.A.D. vans were saved and looking in such good condition.
ROB Yes lets hope a few more drop in the bar in the next few months.
I bet that is great to have diner on the Segwuin as she steams on the cruise. It is possible to see the engine at work when on board.
I have found some photos of a small steamboat in Scotland I will scan and post them after I send my post.
Many thanks for the Western Pacific Electric Lines Encore. I enjoyed reading about the Sacramento Northern, it must have been a great trip to go from San Francisco to Chico including being on the car ferry Ramon.
In Britain they are ordering more diesel locomotives for freight instead of increasing the already quite considerable electric lines, I wonder why electric haulage for freight seems so out of favor at the moment, if the price of diesel fuel keeps rising, as it is doing, it could be that they wished they had more electrified lines.
Enjoyed the great photos from the ‘lost' set. Good to see the VIA train, there seems to a lot of different liveries on the locomotives you caught on film.
ERIC There was a boxcar here on Saturday from Stockton CA.
Yes I would have need a beer after finding the almost full bottle of soda pop no longer in the bottle but in the bottom of the bag, I think it would have been better if it had been beer that was in the bag.
If I remember correct Bellerophon had not steamed for a long time when I took the photo which I think was in the mid 1970s and the paint was just to add some protection.I have found this link to her.
http://www.vintagecarriagestrust.org/Bell.htm
V.C. #2 looks a good-looking locomotive, thanks for the photo.
CM3 I think the Haydock Foundry Bellerophon in the photo was named after the Mythological character, built in 1874, she had a long history as it says in the link above. The Mythological names were very popular for names on the early engines in the UK.
There was one locomotive named after the ship I believe, it was LMS Jubilee class number 5694.
Thanks for the info on the books and the Ortega to Modesto line, one of the bride's aunts lives in Modesto; it sounds a leisurely journey with the mixed train, I suppose, doing some switching of its freight cars on route.
TOM Congratulations on the 3,900th reply.
Thanks for the info on the RDC that appears at the top of your recent posts.
Hope the water doesn't rise as high in Nick's part of the world as it does in the Johnny Cash song.
Yes I seem to run late on Mondays, I blame the time change here and where it has not changed yet in the UK, so I am an hour late. Hope this makes sense.
I followed your instructions for the ‘Search' feature but had the usual response from it ‘Not Found' even with my forum name. I will try again later.
Many thanks for the Classic Train Books from the Can-Am Library and the descriptions of the books. In the photo on the front of the Alaska Railroad, it was an everyday scene at one time on British railways and I guess on American railroads as well that has disappeared, that is the single locomotive with just a brake van (caboose) in tow.
I bet it will be a hard decision of which book to get first.
I will post this and I have a couple of photos of that small 'Pug' locomotive in steam,so a round while I scan the photos please RUTH.
Here's a few more pics from the missing pot as it were to keep things flowing.
Two shots of a GP40-2W lead train at CN Robbins east which is midway between Welland and Port Colbourne Ontario.
A VIA corridor train heading through Bayview JCT
CP had alot of power shortages in the early ninties and dragged lease locos infriom where ever they could find them,an ex CN SD40 now belonging to Helm leasing on a CP train in Welland Ontario.
enjoy
Good morning Ruth always glad to see your winning smile in the morning, a tip for you though even though he means well don't follow any of Boris's dentaql regimine, not that you would but I overheard him exposing the virtues of his favourite toothpaste ( with an "H" ) to Leon the other night. Just smile and nod and he'll leave you alone.That said I think a large thermos of the BK high octane to jumpstart the day and a number three. Good gawd gertie how old are those prune danishes we haven't had one with the taste for them here in months.
Eric-Yes concider yourself lucky that you don't have to dig and scrape like that anymore,someone actually said to me yesterday while we were clearing the snowplows leaving s again that at least it was the ligth fluffy snow it's still heavy and it's still several feet deep,kinda like people saying the heat in Azizona while bad is a dry heat ( it's still hot )I try not to eat alot at night either just brings on a world of hurt so why bother coarse here it's glutton yourselves up cause it isn't gonna harm you
CM3-Is it spring yet At least today's snowstorm has been cancelled or at least been downgraded to flurries Ah more tidbits of info on the WP's electrics I figured that someone else would have a word or three about them. It is odd as to how many missplaced freight cars one does see,shows just how far and wide the railcar pools will travel from their home rails,oddly enough I still see the odd covered hopper go through Brantford with very old and faded N&W or family lines markings on them.
Tom-I try not to bother with the formus search features too depressing.Oh well we soldier on eh Great books in todays covers soem grrreat books there
Not sure why the double post happened, I had though I deleted the one without the preamble,I got the email reminder that it was deleted but there it is bigger than life wierdI'll note the proper terminology in my nautical references for alter use though I have seen it used that way, again wierd.
You would have liked the cruise grumpy date or not, besides Kate the bartender would have kept you entertained ( always lots of other pretty things on board as well )
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. I drove through four kinds of weather this a.m. Partly cloudy, fice (combination of fog and ice), fog, and then clear. Sun is out now and it looks as though it will be a good day.
Rob - Nice snow shots (Got all homesick, oh for about 15 seconds, then I remember getting the bends having to dig my car out day after day, after day - well, you understand) Cornwall St. Railway was a good rerun. For some reason we used to see Tidewater Southern cars fairly regularly on the L&N when I was in Nashville.
Nick - Hope you are above the water level. Weather Channel here had quite a bit about the storm in your area. Fascinating car shots - spent a lot of time looking at them. We could probably run Kate in my back yard.
Pete - Bellerophon - named for the mythological character or for the ship?
Eric - ORER can be useful as it gives you car numbers, dimensions, etc. Lots of numbers if that's what you want along with summaries of different rules relating to freight car types, interchange, etc.
OSP - Nice selection of past photos. Yikes! A memory lapse! Moi? I don't know why I had the RDCs running out of W-B instead of Lehighton.
You have some good items on your want list.
John Stover's History of the Baltimore and Ohio would be an excellent compement to the picture book you have on your list. I recommend it.
Portrait of the Alaska RR - I have not seen this one, but it may get on my list (thanks a lot - lol).
Angier's a guru on the BAR - Go for that one; you'll enjoy it.
As an aside, I'm presently reading H. Roger Grant's Rails Through the Wiregrass - History of the Georgia and Florida Railroad and am also working through Lamb's Evolution of the North American Diesel Locomotive. Both of them have a wealth of good material/information. The "captains of industry" at the bar (you know who you are) will espcially enjoy Issue 197 of Railroad History. This is a revision/reprint of John White's Short History of American Locomotive Builders in the Steam Era - a must have item. Fascinating stuff; be the first on your block to have a picture of Daylight tenders under construction at Lima.
Here's some more about the Tidewater Southern (c. 1959).
The TS was approximately 50 miles long, operating between Stockton and Hilmar. A line approx 30 miles long operated between Ortega and Modesto. Trains 101 and 102 provided mixed service between Ortega and Modesto. The trip took about three hours.
Hope this works now - tried to post once and the entire page vanished - that's why we do posts in word and cut and paste.
Now Arriving on Track Number Two!
Hard Cover Classic Train Books for the Can-Am Library!
Number Four
Portrait of the Alaska Railroad <wanted>
Book Description: In July 1923, President Warren G. Harding visited Alaska to drive in the "Golden Spike" commemorating the grand opening of the new, federally funded railroad linking Seward with Fairbanks. The Government Railroad had taken eight years and the influence of three U.S. presidents to complete. Shortly afterward, it was renamed the Alaska Railroad. In the eighty-plus years since then, America's northernmost railroad has remained a critical transportation link, a working train as well as a touring train that wends through some of the most fabulous country in the nation. Resplendent in blue and gold, the engines and cars of the Alaska Railroad remain disconnected from other rail lines, set apart on a track that travels north through the wilderness to a dead end near Fairbanks, and south to a dead end at the seaport of Seward. But, oh, what beauty lies between. In this lavishly illustrated and authoritative book, the Alaska Railroad rides in the spotlight. Through words and color-rich photos, Johnson and Corral offer an entertaining history of the railroad, the routes, the engines and railcars, the landscape and wildlife, and much more. <from: amazon.com>
Book Description: In July 1923, President Warren G. Harding visited Alaska to drive in the "Golden Spike" commemorating the grand opening of the new, federally funded railroad linking Seward with Fairbanks. The Government Railroad had taken eight years and the influence of three U.S. presidents to complete. Shortly afterward, it was renamed the Alaska Railroad. In the eighty-plus years since then, America's northernmost railroad has remained a critical transportation link, a working train as well as a touring train that wends through some of the most fabulous country in the nation. Resplendent in blue and gold, the engines and cars of the Alaska Railroad remain disconnected from other rail lines, set apart on a track that travels north through the wilderness to a dead end near Fairbanks, and south to a dead end at the seaport of Seward. But, oh, what beauty lies between. In this lavishly illustrated and authoritative book, the Alaska Railroad rides in the spotlight. Through words and color-rich photos, Johnson and Corral offer an entertaining history of the railroad, the routes, the engines and railcars, the landscape and wildlife, and much more.
Amtrak in the Heartland <wanted>
Book Description: A complete history of Amtrak operations in the heartland, this volume describes conditions that led to the passage of the Rail Passenger Service Act of 1970, the formation and implementation of Amtrak in 1970-71, and the major factors that have influenced Amtrak operations since its inception. More than 140 photographs and 3 maps bring to life the story as told by Sanders. This book will become indispensable to train enthusiasts through its examination of Americans' long-standing fascination with passenger trains. When it began in 1971, many expected Amtrak to last about three years before going out of existence for lack of business, but the public's continuing support of funding for Amtrak has enabled it and the passenger train to survive despite seemingly insurmountable odds. <from: amazon.com>
Book Description: A complete history of Amtrak operations in the heartland, this volume describes conditions that led to the passage of the Rail Passenger Service Act of 1970, the formation and implementation of Amtrak in 1970-71, and the major factors that have influenced Amtrak operations since its inception. More than 140 photographs and 3 maps bring to life the story as told by Sanders. This book will become indispensable to train enthusiasts through its examination of Americans' long-standing fascination with passenger trains. When it began in 1971, many expected Amtrak to last about three years before going out of existence for lack of business, but the public's continuing support of funding for Amtrak has enabled it and the passenger train to survive despite seemingly insurmountable odds.
Baltimore & Ohio Color History <wanted>
Book Description: In the 20th century, the BO gained notoriety for great passenger trains like the Capitol Limited, innovative technology, and a flair for aesthetic touches. This authoritative and highly visual retrospective spans the railroads entire history through its current operation. Colour photography, both period and modern, along with rare archival photos, depict BO memorabilia, promotional materials and, of course, the trains themselves. <from: amazon.com>
Book Description: In the 20th century, the BO gained notoriety for great passenger trains like the Capitol Limited, innovative technology, and a flair for aesthetic touches. This authoritative and highly visual retrospective spans the railroads entire history through its current operation. Colour photography, both period and modern, along with rare archival photos, depict BO memorabilia, promotional materials and, of course, the trains themselves.
Bangor & Aroostook Railroad in Color <wanted>
Book Description: The Maine Railroad" has its motive power and operations examined in full color from the early 1950s to its end in 2002. From passengers to potatos, all aspects of this intriguing carrier are covered. <from: amazon.com>
Book Description: The Maine Railroad" has its motive power and operations examined in full color from the early 1950s to its end in 2002. From passengers to potatos, all aspects of this intriguing carrier are covered.
Burlington's Zephyrs <wanted>
Book description: This authoritative, illustrated history of the Zephyr fleet examines the trains, their motive power and landmark streamlined designs, rolling stock (including the Vista-Dome, generally considered the first successful dome car), and services. Dozens of black-and-white archival images and period color photographs depict Zephyrs along routes throughout the Midwest, Rocky Mountains, Pacific Coast, and Texas, as well as Burlington uniforms, dinnerware, stations and terminals, and interior views of cars. In the process, the book provides a dramatic visual account of train travel's decline throughout the century. Also featured are period advertisements, and route maps, timetables, and menus. <from: amazon.com>
Book description: This authoritative, illustrated history of the Zephyr fleet examines the trains, their motive power and landmark streamlined designs, rolling stock (including the Vista-Dome, generally considered the first successful dome car), and services. Dozens of black-and-white archival images and period color photographs depict Zephyrs along routes throughout the Midwest, Rocky Mountains, Pacific Coast, and Texas, as well as Burlington uniforms, dinnerware, stations and terminals, and interior views of cars. In the process, the book provides a dramatic visual account of train travel's decline throughout the century. Also featured are period advertisements, and route maps, timetables, and menus.
Canadian National Railway <wanted>
Nothing planned for tomorrow's MONTHIVERSARY . . . next month is year three. Without Lars to put something together, well . . . I'll leave it up to "whoever" wishes to pick up the ball . . .
Monday March 10th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 195 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:10 AM: Yeah, the weather portion of our local news channels had that WVA shot - several times. Looked rather frightful - ice is no fun ‘n sorta just getsya. This has been a strange winter for us as well with three snowfalls exceeding 6 inches - can't recall the last time that happened. Also several bouts of freezing rain ‘n sleet cancelling out pretty much everything depending upon wheels for operation. Yeah, a strange winter . . .
Blue sky day ‘round here, but temps are still on the chilly side . . . warms up in earnest <whoever HE is!> tomorrow. <grin> Petrol holding at $3 <rounded> . . .
Just couldn't resist, so here's some info on the Lehigh Valley RDCs:
The LV purchased two RDCs <RDC-1 ‘n RDC-2> on 14 Sep 1951 from the Budd Company. The cars were used on a branch line in the mountains of eastern PA, 26 miles from the Buffalo-New York City main line.
RDC-1 <Budd #5410> became LV #40 and was built on 23 Aug 1951 whereas RDC-2 <Budd #5416> became LV #41 and was built on 12 July 1951.
The drawing in my AM summary depicts an RDC-2 . . .
The RDCs ran as two-car consists between Hazleton and Leighton, a 26 mile run with 4 roundtrips daily. Those RDCs connected with trains named Asa Packer - The John Wilkes - The Maple Leaf and The Black Diamond.
All LV passenger ops ceased in 1961, with one RDC holding up ‘til the end. RDC-1 went to SEPTA in 1962 whereas RDC-2 was sold to CP in 1958. LV folded the tent on 1 Apr 1976 in a takeover by ConRail.
<source: RDC - The Budd Rail Diesel Car; pages 168-169 have some fine fotos of these RDCs in service>
Glad you got the Email . . .
Page 195 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:55 AM ‘n 12:19 PM: A check on those UTBs you mentioned will reveal the truth of the matter - only one has been gone-zo for keeps from the Forums. I'll give you three guesses <and the first two don't count!> Both were great guys at the bar, but no one ‘did it better' than the guy with the IRM. <sad>
Should you want to know how to determine who has been Posting where - follow these directions: find the SEARCH feature at the top of the Forum Page - click it - when the next window comes up - click on SEARCH again - you will then see 2 lines for info to be placed - on the 2nd line <ONLY> just type in the cyber name of the person you're interested in <siberianmo> - then hit SEARCH again. This will bring up all the Posts for that person . . .
When RailImages notified us about shutting down, I tried to transfer some fotos ‘n found it to be a nightmare. Sent a few Emails asking for some help, but best I could get was a referral back to the "instructions," which didn't seem to address my problem. I just gave up on it all - did manage to copy the "index' for all my fotos, but have seen that they too have "disappeared." A shame . . . but I have those Pix in my hard drive ‘n will get A-ROUNDTUIT for PhotoBucket <one day>!
Winter is wunnerful - enjoy it! <get a snow blower> Thanx for the fotos . . .
A good read on the Cornwall Street Railway - enjoyed it. There were scores of towns ‘n small cities across the U.S. where the working population far exceeded the OH-FISH-UL tally for residents. Mobile, Alabama comes to mind <ship building> . . . a few places in Connecticut as well. Once WWII ended ‘n those factories were no longer needed for producing "things" for the war effort - things CHANGED. Such is the way, eh
A shame about the vandalism to the unit at Halton County's facility. <barf>
Figured you'd KNOW that the 12th of the month used to be meaningful ‘round here . . .
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, a ham sandwich will be just fine. A cold Keith's, please!
The Monday came and went! A beautiful day here in the desert!
Tom – The annual subscription for the Official Guide of the Railways was just $28 in 1954. I am glad I bought it, I am finding a lot of information in it. Very interesting. I don’t have the Official Railway Equipment Register though. I’ll try to get hold of a copy. Honestly, I can eat any time of the day, even big meals. No, I thought two grand for the Zephyr cars was kind of steep. I need that money to buy me a laptop next month. The Bikini Team is welcome anytime. Never heard of “Oh! Mr. Porter” before. But I wouldn’t mind taking a trip to the Emporium to see it! I saw Wings once on TV many, many years ago. By all means a good movie! The Stooges are always fun!Wednesday is the 35th Monthiversary?! Our Place is getting old! Nice mix of photos! I love the Kansas City Southern’s paint scheme! Very colorful! Same about Santa Fe’s locos in Centennial livery!Email received, thank you!Rob – As I mentioned to Tom, no problems to eat late or very early. Did that quite often as an engineer. But the last number of years i tried to avoid it. I thought it was the same freight train in both pictures. I guess you didn’t see the Amtrak train when you took the first picture? A lot of snow! I am glad it doesn’t look like that outside our house! Thanks for the Cornwall Street Railway article! By the end of the war they had 3.3 million passengers and a few years later they closed the whole thing! Interesting article on WP’s Electric Lines! Tidewater Southern at Stockton. Too bad I didn’t know that when I worked as a truck driver. Spent a lot of time in Stockton just waiting to unload or for the next load. CM3 – As I said, German grammar is tough! I can still read and understand it pretty well though.I am very happy I found that ORG! Full of a lot of information! Maps of railroad networks and so much more. Nick – Be careful, stay away from the water. I understand that you don’t live in the area that may get flooded? Interesting photos! I guess all those cars are narrow gauge, but exactly what is the gauge? Pete – I know Eurostar has two pantographs and I am quite sure that Pendolino also has two. I don’t remember exactly when you had the beer on the Texas Eagle, but I have a feeling it was after the soda pop disaster. Thanks for the photos of the old steam locomotives! Is the Haydock Railway 0-6-0 just partly painted?
Howdy again Mr Leon back for another round of Guinness pour for Nick as well sounds like he will need it with the night he's gonna have.Here's another oldy but goody from a WP themed theme day abck from the good old.Who knows maybe it will flush our friend Dave back out of teh bushes it did a year or so ago
CLASSIC JUICE # 27 WP's ELECTRIC LINES Well good day again gents another round of Blue I think Tom please. I haven't much info on the WP, however after such info packed pieces as Dave and yourself put forth I'll just add this little bit on WP's electric lines. I know that these are in no way complete. Perhaps our local West Coast connections can fill in the more interesting meat that I leave out as I know there will be much. In the days of steam most Railroads viewed the electric interurbans as interlopers that competed for customer traffic and were to be beaten down at all costs. The WP thought differently and purchased two local lines and continued to operate them as electric lines years after many such railways had faded into history. Indeed the Sacarmento Northern and the Tidewater Southern fed needed traffic to their WP parent, and were a help as opposed to a hinderence. When the Wp's last steam power was being phased out the SN steeple cabs still fed freight to it's parent from the electric lines industrial spurs. Built primarily as a passenger line the SN ran interurban cars for three decades between the communities of its region. Indeed in 1941 when the SN ran it's last interurban passenger cars it bosted then the longest interurban run in the country an approx 200 mile round trip. Boarding one of the SN's cars at the Trans Bay Terminal in San Francisco, a passenger would cross the Bay Bridge into Oakland and then out into the dry Oakland Hills Region and down into the San Ramon valley. At Pittsburg Ca,the car ferry Ramon carried the cars across the Sacramento River. Beyond there the interurban cars sped across the delta lands on trestles and levees toward it's namesake city of Sacramento then continued north through the Sacremento valley to it's terminus in Chico. The SN began scrapping it's steeple cabs in the mid 50's and aquired it's own roster of diesel locomotive replacements, painted in WP company colours but still lettered for the SN. Gradulaly several segments of trackage were retired and the SN became a collection of spurs reached via trackage rights over other railways. The section between Marysville and Yuba City remained electrified until 1965. The other WP electric line was the Tidewater Southern. it evolved into the diesel world more completly than it's sister the SN and remained intact.WP bought the 46 mile line in 1917 gaining it's conection at Stockton via Modesto and Turlock. This small lines days of electrification fell victim to the depression in 1932 when the passenger service and electric service ended. The WP kept the line open for it's wine and fruit trade however, revenue the line still subsides on today.
Good evening Leon I see its famine day at the feast or famine bar n grill, no worries we still are plugging along which is a good thing.Right Leon I think just a guinness for me this evening thank-you.
Pete-I see you made it in in the usual afternoon hole as always a great sum up of all that happens here in the "joint"I ahve a sneaking suspicion that niether Doug or Russell pop in eevn to look through the glass,but we can always hold out that hope,who knows what next month shall bring.
Yes I'm indeed glad that we did not get the ice as well as the snow ( hefting the snow was bad enough )
The Segwuin will indeed be back in servcie this season again, first weekend in May the Wenonah generally starts up a week or two earlier, we will as always take at least one dinner cruise on her, it's a yearly ritual,I ahd hopped we could have taken in a cruise during rendezvous one but it was a bit early that year and a bit out of the range of the rendezvous.It would have been worth it though.Loved today's photo's as well
Nick-Hope you've got the hip waders ready Brantford has already warned the folks near the Grand river that this spring may cause more overflow headaches than unsual. Keep your head high and the hatches batted down my friend.
An intersting spat of photo's as well, that little locomotive looks like it would barely pull itself let alone anything else,neat stuff though. As I said above keep yourselves safe
Leon-another quick round please-still waiting the storm but must be close-ears are popping from the pressure drop-gonna be go find your roof in the morning time is my guess...Right-lets throw some pics at yer-interest was shown in the great war stuff-therefore
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NICK Glad you understood the info to Tom on the units. I was going to go into the HALs and HAPS, PULs and PANs, VEPs and VEGgies and the other strange titles the Southern Region used on their EMU fleet, but I thought better of it. I wonder if the new units are known as 4 or 5 DES.
It is good you are enjoying the photos from Rocket 150, I wonder if something as large as that cavalcade and the one at Shildon will ever happed again. I wonder whether the older engines could be steamed again without a lot of work and not having to replace major items, like the boiler
I have not been through Didcot for a while now, is the Power Station no longer there. At one time it provided the line through Oxford with a lot of traffic with coal from the Nottinghamshire and Yorkshire coalfields. Talking of Didcot, I seem to recall that they were going to build a replica of a Broad Gauge ‘Single' I wonder how that project is coming along. It must have been a wonderful sight to have seen a Midland Spinner traveling at over 60MPH with a train of crimson coaches in tow. I was lucky enough to have a ride behind the ex Great Northern Stirling single No1 when it was on the Great Central Railway at Loughborough for a short while in the 1980s.
Great selection from our on Saturday night, even members of the track gang could not master all of the M.C.G. Platter.
Just seen your post about that terrible weather over there. I do hope your village escapes any floods. It seems as though this year has been real bad in the strength of the winds you have had in Britain.
ROB That is quite a lot of snow you had real glad you did not get the ice.
Seems we had quite the night at the bar, we seem to be in Inspector Clueless's good books at the moment, but no doubt we will have to repay the favor soon..I will have to pay more attention to the stuff BORIS and friends seem to be ordering, I think he has learnt to do my signature(well thats my excuse)
Many thanks for the photos from Battlecreek; the leased SD 38 looks fresh from overhaul and a great photo of the Amtrak train.
I remember the ‘Boat Train' theme day we had, it was very successful I recall. Many thanks for the reminder with your post. I guess the coal fired RMS Seguin will be in use this season.
YES I very much enjoyed Doug and Russell's company at the bar as well. I wonder if they have the occasional peek through the windows at the bar.
The Cornwall Street Railway must have popular with railfans with their use of equipment from different places. I see in the photos the freight motors are of two different types, I guess they had to get the second hand motors that were available at the time.
What a shame #17 had the copper stolen before it could be delivered to your museum.
ERIC I wonder if I was having the beer on the Texas Eagle in Tom's photo before or after I found the soda pop in the bag.
I think the Eurostar and the Pendelino units do have two pantographs.
Many thanks for the great selection of photos; I noticed just how neat and tidy the workshop with No 5 was, a lot different to the BR steam sheds at the end of British steam.
CM3 Glad you enjoyed the photos of the early locomotives, it is hard to believe though, that they were still building ‘Singles' at the turn of the 20th century.
I missed ‘Wings' on TCM; I will have to look out to see if they show it again.
TOM Glad you enjoyed the photos,when I think about it does not seem it was nearly 28 years since it took place.
Hi guys-a quick round for the house please Leon-just enjoying a brief respite from 24 hours of force 10 winds with all the trimmings with another 24 at force 11 yet to come-thats also pushing in behind a 7+metre spring tide-could add another 2 metres to it this far upriver-plus huge volumes of field water run-off and we could be busy bailing out the bottom of the village tomorrow-quite a few places down there get their feet wet at anything above about 7.5 metres-will check back after it settles a bit..............
TTFN
P.S-just found a pic of the area in question-tide is at about 1 metre here
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Good day again Ruth I think I could use a top up on the BK blast, here's some extra cash for a round for da boyz Some reading for the lunch time crowd
CLASSIC JUICE # 30 The Cornwall Street Railway The city of Cornwall Ontario lies just 25 miles from the Quebec Boarder and sits on the shores of the St Lawrence River.The town was founded in 1780 by UEL.s but saw little growth until 1843 when the Cornwall Canal was built and allowed ships to bypass a set of rapids on the ST Lawrence. The first steam Railway reached Cornwall 7 years later in 1850 thus spawned the industrial age in this once small farming town. In order to meet the needs of local transportation the town council passed a speacial bylaw in 1885 granting operating rights for a street railway.On July 7, 1896 six single truck arched roofed cars were purchased from Preston Car ad Coach and the Cornwall Electric Street Railway began operating up and down the streets of Cornwall . In 1898 the railways name was officially changed to the Cornwall Street Railway , Light and Power Company.To reflect the extended scope of the company ( owned the power houses for the city and outlying areas as well )Cornwall was the first town in Ontario to own it's own electric lighting plant. After the initial purchase of equipment the little company never purchased new cars again, they purchased replacements from twenty different cities in the US and Canada. These cities included Green Bay , Ottawa, Williamsport , Windsor, Fort Worth , Fort Wayne and New York City. By 1935 the entire line was operating with single truck Birney saftey cars with double ended control stands. The line also went to one man crews in the early 20's on their street cars. The system started out with two routes, Pitt street, and Second street ( the second street line was the heaviest travelled ), a third route was built in 1934, the Belt Line as it was called was one of the last street car lines built in North America. It was three miles long, and provided crucial acccess to several industrial sites at the edge of the city. they ferried the workers to the plants and operated electric locomotives to switch theindustries as well. When the war broke out in 1939 the CSR wa carrying 1 million passengers a year by the end of the war in 1945 that passenger count had tripled to 3.3 million riders a year. In addition, the CSR's freight division handled 20,000 freight cars, all impressive numbers when you concider that Cornwall at the time had a poulation of about 25,000 people !It's even more interesting when you concider that the CSR was essentilaly a single track system with a couple of passing sidings which limited the length of frieght train movements during daylight hours. The Cornwall Street Railway, as it was locally known, had a fleet of 5 steeple cab locomotives with which it served all the local industries. They interchanged freight cars with CN, cars were spotted at night at the various industries around town. As was the case with the passenger equipment the freight motors were also second hand, having come from the NS&T,The Kansas City Kaw Valley and Western,The Windsor Essex and Northshore,and the Chatham Wallaceburg & Lake Erie.They were all of standard type however as they were all class B or C baldwin Westinghouse Locomotives. By the end of the war, the CSR built a new three mile long frieght route in order to remove the freight trains from the streets of the city. New track was laid, and new overhead was installed. Also for the first time the CSR began operating buses, the first new transit equipmenet the city had bought since the turn of the century. The busses they decided were to be used to feed the three streetcar routes instead of building new streetcar lines. Despite the new track and overhead the CSR decided to phase out the streetcar operation, on july 27 1949, the last car ran in Cornwall. They were replaced by fifteen trolley busses of the early Brill design. A sixteenth was purchased in 1951. Cornwall thus became the smallest city in North america to operate trolley coaches !The trolley coaches were retired in 1970 replaced by standard deisel busse. The frieght operations continued to operate under wires until 1971, the last such frieght operation in Canada. Today the only remainders of the CSR electrification are two of the frieght motors. #16 is stuffed and mounted in a central park in the city facing the St lawrence River. The other 4 were sold to the Illinois terminal. In 1974 #17 was purcahsed from the IT by the Halton County Radial Railway Museum and restored as Lake Erie and Northern 335 our museum's gate guardian for the time being as the locomotive had it's copper stripped by some enterprising JO while it was waiting to be delivered to us in a CPR freight yard.
A couple shots of Cornwall equipment.Rob
Morning Ruth is there any of the BK speacial blend left If so I need a large hit of it and a number three if you don't mind.As always the change is yours Boris once you're done shovelling and stacking firewood go ahead and treat the critters,you can have the large jar of PPF because you have been good ( for you ) at keeping the shed clean ( relative term)That is if you can get frostbite out of the frozen birdbath<uh oh >Oh lets see I put on a new batch of donuts from the mosheen,spike helped though which is handy cause we can sell six donuts scewered on a spike
Tom-Yes having to redo all the stuff I had on railimages is going to be a pain in the patootI'll get "roundtuit" eventually Still you managed to find some good old stuff for today.Oddly enough I have not seen either Doug or Russell around at all on the forums , at least they are gone gone and not still viisting other areas. too bad they were both guys after my own heart at least where restorations and operations of old railway equipment was concerned.
Great advice as always on the cutting and pasting of the old posts , and your right the extra margines are hard to spot.Hope you haven't eaten any of that yellow snow No Boris he wasn't talking about slushies from a slushie machine
Got your email sobering thought to be sure .I would surmise that this months aniversary on the twelth would be 35 months and the bah is turning three in april that's likely why the extra "stuff" has been ordered. we'll have to check with the chandler I think he's getting too much help with the ordering <uh oh >
Cm3-Yes that Sd38 was a rare bird,I kind of figured that you would get a charge out of the TR story. No Awk no one was hooked upto the trolley wire,yes I know your great aunt perched on one an singed her tailfeathers,Boris come over here and lend a shoulder will you <sheesh>
I wonder how many times in a railroaders carreer that they have to wonder back with the ole spare knuckle in a driving snow or rain storm.
Hey Tom want to come north with Juneau here's my front yard as of last night and today,the tree in the snowbank is seven feet tall. Ought to make Eric feel right at home.
I see our Resident WVA Connection has kicked off the AM slot . . . We're heading for a warm-up while you're still in the 'white' . . . <envy>
Now Arriving on Track #1
Patron's Pix - Number Five
Explanation: This series features fotos from the guys who have entertained us over years on the Original Thread and here at the Reborn "Our" Place . . . As long as these fotos "live" in the Ether, why not have ‘em redone right here Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown. A case in point are ALL fotos stored on RailImages . . . recently gone, gone, gone-zo! <sad> That translates to a loss of pretty much everything trolleyboy Rob 'n Moi provided back in those early times . . . The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.
Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown. A case in point are ALL fotos stored on RailImages . . . recently gone, gone, gone-zo! <sad> That translates to a loss of pretty much everything trolleyboy Rob 'n Moi provided back in those early times . . .
The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.
Posted by Trainnut484 Russell on 02 July 2005, Page 39 of the Original Thread:
#1 here's an incentive to come to KC Union Station soon . . . Part of historic rails display coming soon to Union Station.
here's an incentive to come to KC Union Station soon . . . Part of historic rails display coming soon to Union Station.
Posted by Trainnut484 Russell on 04 July 2005, Page 40 of the Original Thread:
#2 I had a great time yesterday (Sunday) at the Midland RR (Baldwin City). Got to meet Dan-earlydiesels in person. Thanks Dan for your hospitality. Also pass along thanks to Ernie and the other members of the crew working that day. The MKT RS3M looked great.
I had a great time yesterday (Sunday) at the Midland RR (Baldwin City). Got to meet Dan-earlydiesels in person. Thanks Dan for your hospitality. Also pass along thanks to Ernie and the other members of the crew working that day. The MKT RS3M looked great.
#3 Can you believe its been almost 30 years (29 exactly) that the railroads celebrated the nation's centennial? Here's a reminder
Can you believe its been almost 30 years (29 exactly) that the railroads celebrated the nation's centennial? Here's a reminder
Posted by Trainnut484 Russell on 05 July 2005, Page 40 of the Original Thread:
#4 Dan, I have another picture of Ernie at the helm. The name of the guy standing on the steps has escaped my mind. I do know that he made engineer that Sunday morning. Pass along a congrats from me.
Dan, I have another picture of Ernie at the helm. The name of the guy standing on the steps has escaped my mind. I do know that he made engineer that Sunday morning. Pass along a congrats from me.
Posted by barndad Doug on 14 July 2005, Page 47 of the Original Thread:
#5 Another club I belong to is the 20th Century Railroad Club. . . . The 51 foot extention to our steam shop, now looks like this . . . Our new rails were supposed to be installed last weekend, but as you can see, they're not there!
Another club I belong to is the 20th Century Railroad Club. . . . The 51 foot extention to our steam shop, now looks like this . . . Our new rails were supposed to be installed last weekend, but as you can see, they're not there!
Posted by barndad Doug on 18 July 2005, Page 50 of the Original Thread:
#6 I spent my saturday prepping journal boxes for painting, and just moving things around for our new construction, which now looks like this! . . . We still don't have our new track, but it's coming!
I spent my saturday prepping journal boxes for painting, and just moving things around for our new construction, which now looks like this! . . . We still don't have our new track, but it's coming!
Enjoy!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house; and $ for the jukebox. Interesting weather over the weekend. I'm sure many of you saw the "bumper car" videos from Charleston on the Weather Channel over the weekend. We got about 5" worth of "scattered clouds" on Saturday night, but most of it evaporated yesterday much to the chagrin of the K9 Korps. Our friends in Ohio got hammered, and when we talked with the Lake Erie Division last night, they were still getting pounded. The New England Division, when contacted had lots rain.
Rob - You are right, the knuckle always breaks at the far end of the train. I remember the story about Pittsfield and TR (no, Awk, I was NOT there). A friend of mine's father was there, however, so that's how I heard about it yrs ago. The road is still there (not the street railway, but the highway). Thanks for the rerun of the boat trains and the shots from Battle Creek. An SD38 is not something you see very day.
Pete stopped by with comments. Nice pictures of the Rocket and the Midland 4-2-2.
Nick was in with menu cards, observations and a batch of pictures. "Prince of Wales" was a good one.
Eric - I know what you mean about German. Back in the day when I was in school, we were required to have "working knowledge" of two languages in addition to English. And we had to pass proficiency exams as well. So, we spent a lot of time studying German - translation was the worst part as the word order was bizarre in some situations. Yes, Frostbite, we did play, "Find the verb," as one you did that you could untangle the rest of the passage.
As I mentioned, there's all sorts of folklore and "reasons" for the CNW doing what it did. The electric you sent along is another beast reminiscent of the ones on the BM&LP. Also thanks for including the pictures of vintage equipment and other scenes from the "old country." BTW, you got a good deal on the ORG. It covers a year b4 everything when down the tubes.
OSP was by with some fine information about the original Zephyr. I especially liked the color shot of the D&RGW. Also liked the eclectic (no Boris, not electric) collection of pictures. Good choice of movies as well. "Wings" ran on Turner Movie Classics last month. "Beer Barrel Polecats" is a fine Stooges pick as well.
Look at the Lehigh Valley RDC - IIRC, they ran between Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton. Good choice - I'm ready to leave right now. The Morning Sun books on the LV have pictures of the RDC in service - for the life of me, I can't remember which volume has them.
E-mail rec'd, will reply later.
A smile to begin the week!
When asked about insurance, he offered, "I don't know what the best type is. But I know none is bad."
<A Yogi-ism!>
And all of a sudden Monday rolled ‘round again! <geesh> Don't despair, the coffee ‘n pastries are fresh! Breakfasts are all set to "go" - so order up ‘n jump start your day with us!
Snow cover should disappear before noon today as the warm-up is upon us. Poor Juneau, he's not to be denied - as he'll "use" the remaining batches of white to turn ‘em yellow for as often as he can. <grin>
When will we reach Page 200 Bonus: Who will make that Post
Participants:
(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)
(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)
(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)
(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)
(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)
(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)
(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)
WHO will make the 4,000th reply at the bar AND when
(1) Pete sez Rob on Mar 22nd
(2) Rob sez Pete on Mar 16th
(3) Eric sez Allan on Mar 21st
(4) CM3 Shane sez Rob on Mar 13th
(5) Ron sez Rob on Mar 10th
(6) Allan sez Pete on Mar 15th
Wednesday is a MONTHIVERSARY - anyone wanna take a guess at what it is
A week from today is St. Patrick's Day - the galley ‘n bar will be GREEN that day! Live entertainment from Nick's band(s) . . . the tent will be "up" in the outback, so be prepared to don your best Irish apparel, practice your brogue, ‘n party with us!
There's a <tweeting> long pending completion at the bar! Hmmmmmm
Sunday - March 9th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 195 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:46 PM: A Sunday visit, but moreso for working than pleasure. Such is life for the working class, eh
Ordering supplies ‘n provisions is the duty ‘n responsibility of the Bar Chandler. Best do some checking to see what's goin
Good evening folks just hanging out in my office trying to make sence of the bills for the kitchen by teh looks of it I think nick's been letting Copperkettle write up the orders, that or pay for them because I see there is an entry from the Mentor grocer and butcher for payment recieved in gold dubloons.
Eric-neat pictures early this morning sir , love those old side entry coaches. I aggree with Tom though If I ordered that much late at night I'm sure I'd have such gastrointestinal distress that Boris wouldn't even want to be around me<uh oh >
Yes that was the same freight train you can see it taking the switch to head up the Dundas sub towards Brantford,they have now tripple tracked the junction as it funnels that many trains through in a day.
Tom-A couple interesting movie pics for the week.Both look very intriging Yes I have snow well up past the patoot here at the moment with more on the way for Tuesday,I'd love to ship someto you cause we ain't got anyplace to put it at the moment,you would loose Boris and Leon in it. Hopefully the Boyz behaved themselves in the gorge with you this afternoon.
I read throught the boat trains Tuesday when I dug that post up last night , an absolute ton of good stuff there,tis to bad that we can't do the themed Tuesdays anymore they were something else. But still water under the bridge and miles of track behind us, we still are pound for pound the best info sorce on these forums bar none
The only thing I can figure is that the formatting goes haywire somehow when the wide pages happen 9 out of 10 reposts seem fine just those occational ones seem to cause difficulties.
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . March 9th thru 15th: ENCORE PRESENTATION of Oh! Mr. Porter (1937) Starring: Will Hay, Moore Marriott, Sebastian Smith & Graham Moffitt - and - Wings (1927) Starring: Clara Bow, Charles "Buddy" Rogers, Richard Arlen & Gary Cooper. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Beer Barrel Polecats (1946)
<Note: Oh! Mr. Porter first shown on Monday, January 30th thru February 4th, 2006>
Oh! Mr. Porter (1937)
PLOT SUMMARY: William Porter is working as a lowly wheel tapper on the English Railways until, through the influence of his downtrodden brother-in-law (who happens to be managing director of the railway company), he is offered the position of station master at the isolated station at Buggleskelly in Northern Ireland. Rather a poisoned chalice, as station masters as Buggleskelly have a reputation for going mad and not lasting all that long... Once in Buggleskelly, he hears the story of One-eyed-Joe (the phantom miller), meets his two station hands (the wily Harbottle and good-for-nothing Albert) and somehow has his train stolen by the Phantom Miller... Featuring some of the most inspired lines of pre-war cinema ("next trains gone","I'm their centre forward","If I can't be Gladstone, I'm not playing","You're wasting your time, everything around here is either too old or won't work - and you're both!"...watch how Porter sniffs and bumbles through life!
William Porter is working as a lowly wheel tapper on the English Railways until, through the influence of his downtrodden brother-in-law (who happens to be managing director of the railway company), he is offered the position of station master at the isolated station at Buggleskelly in Northern Ireland. Rather a poisoned chalice, as station masters as Buggleskelly have a reputation for going mad and not lasting all that long... Once in Buggleskelly, he hears the story of One-eyed-Joe (the phantom miller), meets his two station hands (the wily Harbottle and good-for-nothing Albert) and somehow has his train stolen by the Phantom Miller... Featuring some of the most inspired lines of pre-war cinema ("next trains gone","I'm their centre forward","If I can't be Gladstone, I'm not playing","You're wasting your time, everything around here is either too old or won't work - and you're both!"...watch how Porter sniffs and bumbles through life!
<from: imdb.com>
Wings (1927)
PLOT SUMMARY: WINGS was the first film ever made that graphically captured the emotional combination of freedom and fear of flying in combat. Director William Wellman drew on his years in an elite flying squadron and pushed the cinematic technology of the day to its limit when he created this film's timeless aerial sequences. The story revolves around two young men, of different classes, who have both fallen for the same young woman before they head off to combat. Richard Arlen and Charles Rogers are well paired as they fight it out over both Clara Bow and enemy soil, and Gary Cooper makes a memorable cameo appearance, which launched his career. The emotional current created by the three stars is as intense as the film's special effects, and the result adequately reflects the lasting brutality of war. This drama won the very first Academy Award for Best Picture.
WINGS was the first film ever made that graphically captured the emotional combination of freedom and fear of flying in combat. Director William Wellman drew on his years in an elite flying squadron and pushed the cinematic technology of the day to its limit when he created this film's timeless aerial sequences. The story revolves around two young men, of different classes, who have both fallen for the same young woman before they head off to combat. Richard Arlen and Charles Rogers are well paired as they fight it out over both Clara Bow and enemy soil, and Gary Cooper makes a memorable cameo appearance, which launched his career. The emotional current created by the three stars is as intense as the film's special effects, and the result adequately reflects the lasting brutality of war. This drama won the very first Academy Award for Best Picture.
<from: rottentomatoes.com>
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Beer Barrel Polecats (1946)
PLOT SUMMARY: It is the middle of Prohibition and the Stooges are unable to buy beer. They decide to make their own and produce 185 bottles of beer. The boys are soon arrested for bootlegging. The warden finds out Curly has smuggled a keg of beer into the prison and the boys are sentenced to a long stretch. The Stooges are finally released after 40 years, but when Curly asks for a bottle of beer, he is thrown back into the warden's care by Moe and Larry.
It is the middle of Prohibition and the Stooges are unable to buy beer. They decide to make their own and produce 185 bottles of beer. The boys are soon arrested for bootlegging. The warden finds out Curly has smuggled a keg of beer into the prison and the boys are sentenced to a long stretch. The Stooges are finally released after 40 years, but when Curly asks for a bottle of beer, he is thrown back into the warden's care by Moe and Larry.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend! Tom
Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY.
Yeah, Sunday ‘n we're CLOSED. Just ‘in" to tidy up a bit ‘n get ready to take Boris ‘n Leon for a romp over at Can-Am Gorge. Gotta check out the cabin, one of the Rangers dropped by to report sightings of a Grizzly family. Boris will luv that! <yikes>
I see we had some activity after a long, slow morning ‘n early afternoon . . . . so let's get to the catch-ups whilst I have the time!
Saturday - March 8th: <all times Central standard>
Page 194 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:16 PM: Our mid-Missouri Resident Brit in the U.S. has been heard from with a fine Saturday offering.
Thanx for the details regarding the class "450" Shudda looked closer at the train board identification - the "450" shows up quite well. At any rate, I'm learning!
Spate of six fotos all in good shape - appreciate the effort!
My bet is the Amtrak version of the California Zephyr <equipment ‘n route of "back in the day"> is a far cry from the real thing. Just carrying over the name doesn't "do it" as far as I'm concerned. I expect we'll thoroughly enjoy our round-trip aboard the Empire Builder - but it's Amtrak ‘n not the Great Northern of old. ‘Nuf said, eh
Enjoyed eavesdropping your comments . . . . also, you need to pay-down on that tab. <yikes>
Thanx for the visit, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND!
Page 194 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:24 PM ‘n 9:03 PM: Not to forget us, the Londoner in Wales came back with a twofer to entertain ‘n feed us on Saturday!
I'd soon be a goner if I consumed food ala Nick's menu selections. That "belly" of mine would be down to my toes ‘n my Doc would go bezerk! <grin> Since I've lost about 15-20 pounds since Rendezvous II, I'm trying my level best to not let things get carried away . . . but must admit the "urge' is there when perusing those menus!
Didn't know great-great, etc. Grandpa Ezekial could sign his name . . . bet he was under the influence. So now we know, "I wonder, wonder WHO - Who wrote the book of . . . ">
I've come a long way since first viewing Brit train fotos, Mate! Now I'm "almost" competent enuf to discern a Blue Peter from a hernia to a "350" to a "450." <make of that what you will!>
Ahhhh, the name Stanley Holloway conjures up some remembrances of fine entertainment via the live stage, movies ‘n CDs. Saw him on Broadway way, way back when the first run of "My Fair Lady" hit New York City like a whirlwind. That role was made for him - Eliza's father, the dustman. Yeah, can still hear him . . .
Interesting story behind my getting tickets to that play. I knew a guy who worked at the old U.S.O. in Times Square. He would help out the guys in uniform who helped him. If you dropped a "forty pounder" on him, he'd get you the up close rows <center> seats at the most popular of the Broadway plays. A "forty pounder" was a 40 oz "jug" of Canadian Club, VO or any other of the 'spirits' to his liking. Being assigned to a ship, we used to pull into Canadian, Carribean 'n other foreign ports where the purchase of liquor was a "steal." We were permitted a gallon each <Imperial measurement, of course>. So a "jug" would run me about 5 bucks 'n in return I'd get the greatest seats for the plays. The gals thought I . . . but that's 'nother tale - probably for Rendezvous III.
As always, enjoyed your visits, chat menus ‘n ROUNDS!
Page 195 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:49 PM ‘n 9:57 PM ‘n 10:33 PM: A trifecta from our Resident Snowbound Ontario Connection!
Monster storms roared through the U.S. eastern mid-section ‘n up through where you are. Lucky ducks! <grin> Youbetcha I'd luv it - snow dumps are grrrrrrrrrrrrreat! Of course when power goes out, people can't use the highways for emergencies ‘n the ice takes hold - welllllllll, that's ‘nother side of it. But for the sheer joy of a winter landscape - I'm packed ‘n ready to go!
Leon, let's see, I would like the welsh black fillet, 3 1 inch thick slices, pan-fried with shallots, on a bed of taglilietele (whatever that is) tricolore with the secret sauce. And a cold Tui, please!
I am kind of lucky tonite. Leon was still awake and the kitchen is up and running. Maybe Nick is here?
Tom – Glad to hear the good news from the doc! I agree with you! I don’t understand why English isn’t the official language. I just don’t get it. To become a citizen you have to prove that you understand and can write and read English. So why the heck do they provide ballots in Spanish when it comes to voting? You have to be a citizen to vote. I went to a Train Expo today and they had a set of 12 Zephyr cars! Just $2,000! No, I didn’t buy it. The only thing I bought was The Official Guide of the Railways from April 1954. All the time tables you can ask for. USA, Canada, Mexico Central America. Just $20. It is strange that one is not allowed to use the correct name for something sitting on every locomotive. That is all I am going to say. A nice mix of good photos! My black bag is much smaller than Pete’s and I don’t pour any soda pop into it. Only camera accessories! How did you manage to take the bag from Pete? Pete – Great trip on the Texas Eagle? I thought you spent most of the time on that train draining your black bag? The black bag is being drained. Texas Eagle, May 2007.Thanks for the info on class 90! Only one pantograph? I prefer two. You never know when things will go wrong and you have to use the other pantograph instead. If you have two, that is. Nice photos fromthe Didcot Railway Centre! Including the Titfield Thunderbolt!! Nick – Glad to learn that your re-wiring job is making good progress! So Prince of Wales is a narrow auge locomotive, 600 mm. 2.4 m wide is a lot for 600 mm gauge. This loco (below) is also a 600 mm gauge locomotive but not that wide.Rob – I am glad if I can help keeping Boris busy! Nice photos! Even Amtrak is in one of them! I am trying to recall where Battlecreek is at. It looks like the freight train in the pictures from Bayview Jct is the same in both pictures. Do you remember if that is correct? Interesting reading about the boat trains! In the photo from Lakeside Park one can see a lot of buses beside the interurban cars. Trying to take over the business? I am glad they managed to refit Seguin and make it operational again!
A mix of photos.Grand Canyon 1992. Narrow gauge (891 mm) steam locomotive. The island of Gotland, Sweden.The same train. Waiting for the cars, mostly tank cars, from a local refinery.
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