G'day Gents!
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #2
Missouri Pacific Railroad (MP)
A form of this was initially Posted on Page 106 of the original Thread
source: Classic American Railroads
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Headquarters: St. Louis, MO
Route mileage in 1950: 9,700
Locomotive fleet in 1963: Diesel: 724
Rolling stock in 1950:
Freight cars: 44.923 Passenger cars: 533
Principal lines in 1950:
St. Louis-Sedalia-Kansas City, MO-Omaha, NE
Jefferson City-Boonville-Kansas City
St. Joseph, MO-Stockton, KS
Kansas City-Pueblo, CO
Osawatomie, KS-Wagoner, OK-North Little Rock, AR
Pleasant Hill, MO-Wichita-Geneseo, KS
Fort Scott-Larned, KS
Rich Hill-Joplin, MO
Carthage, MO-Diaz, AR
St. Louis-Little Rock, AR-Texarkana, TX
East St. Louis, IL-Poplar Bluff, MO
Bismark, MO-Salem, IL
Bald Knob, AR-Memphis, TN
Little Rock-McGehee, AR-Lake Charles, LA
Memphis-McGehee
McGehee-Vidalia, LA
Pine Bluff-Hot Springs, AR
Gurdon, AR-Clayton, LA
Longview-Laredo, TX
Palestine-Galveston, TX
Brownsville, TX-Baton Rouge, LA-New Orleans
New Orleans-Donaldson-Alexandria, LA
Forth Worth-Spring (Houston), TX
San Antonio-Corpus Christi, TX
El Paso-Longview, TX-Livonia, LA-New Orleans (T&P)
Fort Worth, TX-Cypress, LA, via Texarkana & Marthaville, LA (T&P)
Texarkana-Longview (T&P)
Passenger Trains of note:
Aztec Eagle (San Antonio-Mexico City)
Colorado Eagle (St, Louis-Denver)
Houstonian (New Orleans-Houston)
Louisiana Sunshine Special (Little Rock-Lake Charles)
Missouri River Eagle (St. Louis-Omaha)
Missourian (St. Louis-Kansas City and Wichita)
Orleanean (Houston-New Orleans)
Ozarker (St. Louis-Little Rock)
Pioneer (Houston-Brownsville)
Rainbow Special (Kansas City-Little Rock)
Royal Gorge (Kansas City-Pueblo)
Southerner (St. Louis-El Paso & San Antonio & New Orleans)
Southern Scenic (Kansas City-Memphis)
Sunflower (St. Louis-Kansas City & Wichita)
Sunshine Special (St. Louis-Hot Springs & San Antonio)
Texan (St. Louis-Fort Worth)
Texas Eagle (No. 1 & 2: St. Louis-El Paso, TX)
Texas Eagle (No. 21 & 22: St. Louis-Houston & San Antonio)
Valley Eagle (Houston-Brownsville)
Of note: National Railways of Mexico operated the Aztec Eagle between Nuevo Laredo-Mexico City.
T&P operated the El Paso trains out of Texarkana and handled Texarkana-Longview trains.
Denver trains out of Pueblo were operated by D&RGW.
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MP E3 #7001 "Colorado Eagle Streamliner" at Jefferson City, MO (1948) (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Fred Schneikart)
MP E8 #40 "Eagle Streamliner" at Poplar Bluff, MO (late 60s)(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Joe Falvey)
MP Alco PA-2 #8009 at Raymondville, TX (1952) (courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Arthur B. Johnson)
MP Alco PA #8018 at KCity, MO (1962)(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: postcard)
MP PA-3 #8019 at Texarkana, TX (1956)(courtesy: www.trainweb.org) (foto: Arthur B. Johnson)
Enjoy!
Tom
Denali Star - from my personal collection
Wednesday's Witticism
Did you know An optimist is man who, when she says, "I'm tellin' you know for the last time," he says, "I knew you'd weaken in time."
Seems like Spring here in mid-continent USA as all of the ice layers have melted, heavy winter gear shed in favor of lighter wear and all's right with the world! Wellllllllllll, maybe not everything! Petrol jumped to $2.29 (rounded) up at "Collusion Corner" after the Speculators and Extortionists in the "trade" decided we'd had enough of "low" prices. And the beat goes on . . .
Another SLOW day at the Bar by the Ballast and it surely seems to the Proprietor that we are limping into the end of this 2nd year of business. ALWAYS appreciate the support from those of you who give a Rat's Patoot - that's why I'm here!
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS!
CM3 at 8:52 AM - and - Doug at 7:10 PM yesterday - quarters for Herr Wurlitzer's Coal Scuttle from both!
Eric at 11:09 PM yesterday: Many thanx for the dialogue and business! Getting difficult to remain awake ‘round here these days (daze)!
I'd take living in Sweden in a "heart beat" just as long as there'd be a "guarantee" of snow cover for winter, fuel for the furnace, beer for the ‘fridge and trains to ride! <grin> Ahhhh, I'm too O-L-D to even think about relocating.
Good "catch" with the metric conversion! Just goes to show (once again) that "net" sources aren't always "Gospel"!! Wikipedia does have a method in place for updated and corrected material. That's far different from the majority of "net" sources, eh Thanx for the Pix from Seattle!
Seattle, "The Emerald City," has always been a favorite place of mine to visit. Spent considerable time out that way back in early 1960 (7 weeks in Jan/Feb) and the sun never shown one day! Then over time, several trips where it was an absolutely beautiful scenic place to be. Have LOTS of memories from there. Happened to be in SeaTac airport when Mt. St. Helens blew it's top - was my birthday - May 18th. Never forget it.
Anyway, my bride and I rode the mono rail in 1996 to the "needle" and back to downtown. Thought then, as I do now, "What a pity that the line is so limited." It's really only a tourist "thing," but a treat nonetheless!
Ya know, I never ‘wished' to be a train engineer, conductor or any other fashion of employee. Rather, my preferences have always been to ride ‘em and enjoy ‘em and "weep" when they reached their destinations. Just detest the end of the run . . .
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!
I'll have a Filet Mignon tonght Leon! Medium. Yes, please add some mushroom! Good stuff!
A number of fine posts provided by the Captain today! Including the Chessie System, one of my Mrs. favorites (after UP) because of the Kitten logo!
Tom – Holiday for a few? Yes, I think you are right but it seems to be quite a few. The traffic yesterday morning and evening was like a Sunday morning! I made it to (and from) work in no time at all! Have to comment your response to Lars about “that place”. “My place” is in the middle of the forest (that is where I lived in the old country), not the desert. But circumstances put me here and that is okay, but I certainly miss the forest. Yeah, it was nice to recharge the batteries. I have to clarify one thing about following behind an other train. There was never any risk for any “rear ending” or that kind of mishap. The worst thing that could happen would have been to pass a stop signal with part of the train. That is something you want to avoid, cause if “they” find out you better have a good explanition why and how it happened. Yes sir, you were correct reading the signal aspect in that picture, “expect clear” for my train. The signals further down the line are showing “clear, expect clear” and “clear”. It is hard to see that in the picture but when I look at the original I can see it. You passed the test!! There is a shortage of locomotive engineers in Sweden, maybe you are interested? The alignment of the rail is just fine, the speed of the train when I took the picture was 125 mph and we did not derail. We got 1/3” of rain yesterday, not bad at all! We certainly need it. Nice ad for C&O! Sleep like a Kitten sounds nice, at least it looks very comfortable when a kitten is asleep! I have seen Seattle Monorail but I never “tried” it. But the monorail tracks are visible at the top of the picture below. Interesting info about Seattle Center Monorail! But they converted 1.2 miles to 1.6 km, it should be 1.9 km. 1 mile = 1.609 km.
I just realized that my picture is showing the same intersection as in the third picture from the top in your post! My picture was taken from a hotel on the street to the right.
CM3 – Thanks for the info on NP’s passenger service! 1971 makes sense, the year Amtrak took over most of the passenger service. Doug – Scoring points?!! Supervising Security System installation should give you a lot of extra bonus points! Yes, there are models of monorails for layouts, see the link below.
http://www.mouseplanet.com/al/docs/monorail.htm
Eric
Evenin' Tom and friends! Found a little time to check the activity here, so I'll be needing a bottomless draught while I read, and buy a round for the crowd of course. Great to see visits from Eric and CM3 today, and some outstanding posts from our Captain.
We're making some decorating progress on the homefront, and I'm scoring more points by hanging around for a security system installation tomorrow, so of course I'm thinking that I'm going to be owed some train-time activities as a reward. I'm thinking a trip to Galesburg to watch the activity in a few weeks!
Yes, those confusing pix were inside the Oriental Theatre, but I could only take pictures in the lobby. They really watch to make sure no one gets pictures inside the theatre, as the props are super secret I guess. They have their hands full with cell phones being what they are these days.
Tom's Seattle Monorail post got me to wondering if someone makes monorail systems for layouts?
I need to get going here, but will leave some Michagan quarters for some tunes!
Now arriving on Track # 3
Classic Transit - Number One
Seattle Center Monorail
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements.
Locale
Seattle
Transit type
Monorail
Began operation
March 24, 1962
System length
1.2 mi (1.6 km)
No. of lines
1
No. of stations
2
Daily ridership
7,000
Operator
Seattle Monorail Services
The Seattle Center Monorail is an elevated monorail line in Seattle, Washington, that runs one mile along Fifth Avenue from Westlake Center in Downtown to Seattle Center in Lower Queen Anne. It claims to be the "only fully self-sufficient public transit system" in the United States, and with a top speed of 50 mph (80 km/h), to also be the fastest full-sized monorail in the country. The monorail trains and their tracks were given historical landmark status by the Seattle Landmarks Preservation Board April 16, 2003.
Creation and route
The monorail, which cost $3.5 million to build, opened on March 24, 1962 for the Century 21 Exposition, a World's Fair being held at the current site of Seattle Center. Eight million people rode the monorail during the half year the fair was open; today, annual ridership is around 2.5 million.
At the northern end of the line, the Experience Music Project building was designed so that the monorail passes through it on its way to the terminal.
Originally, the south end of the line was a large station in Westlake Park that formed a lid over the park. In 1988, the station was moved north a block with the construction of the Westlake Center shopping mall. In order to fit the design of the mall the tracks were moved closer together, such that there is only room for one train to occupy the Westlake Center station at a time. This design decision introduced a collision risk at the station that was eventually realized in 2005.
Operation
The monorail tracks with the Space Needle visible in the distance
The Seattle Center Monorail operates daily. It departs every 10 minutes from the station at Seattle Center enroute to Westlake Center Mall, at Fifth and Pine Street. Each trip takes two minutes to cover the approximately one mile route. Each train can carry up to 450 passengers per trip. The Monorail provides two-train service during special events and activities, with departures every five minutes or less.
Round-trip fares are $4.00 for adults, $1.50 for youth ages 5-12, $2.00 for senior 65+, disabled (with valid Regional Reduced Fare Permit), and persons with Medicare cards. One-way fares are half of the round-trip price. Children four and under ride free.
Potential demolition
In November 2002, Seattle voters approved the construction of a new 14-mile monorail line. The "Green Line," as it was known, was to be the first of five monorail lines running throughout the city. Partial service was scheduled to be available in 2007, and full service was scheduled for 2009. Due to the route chosen from Queen Anne to Downtown, the existing monorail line was to be demolished as part of that project. The Green Line project was terminated by a public vote in November 2005 after concerns were raised about its financing plan.
Accidents
(foto credit: Garrett Fitzgerald - Public Domain)
The train on the right was approaching the station, and should have yielded.
On July 25, 1971, a brake failure on the red train resulted in it striking the girder at the end of the track in the Seattle Center station, causing injuries to 26 passengers. In 2002 and 2003. passengers were evacuated by ladder after trains stalled on the track.
On May 31, 2004, a fire broke out on the monorail with 150 people aboard. No one was killed; five passengers were taken to the hospital, none of them burned. The line was closed until December 16, 2004, when service resumed with one of the two trains (the "red train," newly fireproofed) in operation.
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox. Gas is $2.45 this a.m. - gone up nearly 50 cts a gallon in 10 days. We had approx 9-inches of "little or no accumulation" over the weekend and it was !@#$ cold - at least the snow brushed off easily; K9s ran several plow extras out in the yard. Today is the warmest it's been here in about am month; actually above freezing.
Lars has been visiting us with all sorts of FL. Ideas; go for it.
Eric re NP passenger service; it disappeared in 1971 as true NP operation.
Barndad provided us with some fine Chicago pictures; can feel that lovely cold dampness.
James - I believe your NP picture was made at Centralia, WA. Back in the day, Centralia was served by your favorite MILW, NP, UP, and GN.
Mike sent along some interesting pictures.
C&O 4021 photograph was made at Louisville. I wish I could get a better view of the baggage car in the middle of the picture as it may have been setout either from the "South Wind" or the "Pan American." Anyway, the photographer is standing about in the middle of the platform looking at the train shed. The L&N used the tracks to the right side of the picture. In fact, the L&N main offices are just to the right. PRR trains came in from the left as the station was a stub on a wye layout. The C&O E unit in the picture is on the Louisville section of the "George Washington." Rode it many times, thanks for sharing. For what it's worth, the L&N had similar sheds on two other passenger stations. Anybody out there know where these stations were?
The NYC track is horrendous in that picture - enough to make you weep.
Last, the PRR K4 with the P70 coaches was photographed in Philadelphia.
Our ‘steamed proprietor sent all sorts of interesting material. Some "select" movies at the Mentor Theatuh. "Strangers on a Train" is a good one. Calling all Curs is one of my favorite Stooge pictures. Also thanks for all of the advertising material (from many different railroads)and for the SP pictures. Check out the Golden State livery on the SP units at Palm Springs; not something you see every day.
Every so often PBS gets it right and they did last night. Back to back presentations of interest to the "Captains of Industry" in the group. An American Experience program on the NY Subway followed by Ken Burns's film on the Brooklyn Bridge (narrated by David McCulloch. The Roeblings (senor and younger) are inspiring figures. One quick one b4 Boris drags me off to "da Rat Room." Neither of these projects could have been built today. "‘Nuff said."
Work safe
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #15
Initially Posted on Page 148 of the original Thread
Here's something to enjoy regarding the C&O from a 1940 advertisement found in one of my scrap books.
YOU'LL WISH YOU COULD LOOK both ways AT ONCE! EXPERIENCED TRAVELERS call it "The most beautiful train trip in the East," this mountain-and-canyon route of Chesapeake and Ohio Lines. On this magnificent journey you look out and down upon waves of mountains - the majestic Alleghanies, the mysteriously tinted Blue Ridge . . . upon valleys stretching like bright carpets to the far, purple hills. The scene changes - and you look up the towering green walls of the New River Gorge as you roll smoothly through the widest and deepest canyon this side of the Rockies. Yes, when you watch this panorama of thrilling beauty from your train windows, you'll wish you could look both ways at once! On your next trip east or west GO CHESAPEAKE AND OHIO . . . and enjoy glorious mountain country! You'll travel in complete comfort, on the smoothest of roadbeds, in cool, clean air-conditioned cars that invite you to relax by day and Sleep Like a Kitten at night . . . When you travel west or east, plan to ride through The Chessie Corridor on these famous trains- THE GEORGE WASHINGTON - THE SPORTSMAN - THE F. F. V. Sleep like a Kitten THE CHESSIE CORRIDOR, The Scenic Route of the East A NEW BOOK on Chessies Travel Packages will help you plan interesting, economic trips. Write for free copy to Chesapeake and Ohio Travel Services, 829 East Main St., Richmond, Va.
George Washington's Railroad CHESAPEAKE and OHIO Lines Original Predecessor Company Founded by George Washington in 1785
Enjoy! Tom
Funny thing about these U.S. Monday Holidays - they most times seem as if it's only a "holiday' for a few. Hmmmmmm.
Let's check out The Mentor Village Bakery case, the Menu Board and the coffee urns! That'll put a bounce in your step on this Tuesday!
Lars at 1:22 PM yesterday: Looks as if you "saved the day" once again, Mr. Manager.
Sounds to me as if you ‘n your bride have found "that place" on Earth so many of us keep looking for. For us, it's a mountain top - for you, the ocean, and for others perhaps desert country, river territory and so forth. Whatever flicks your switch - good for the both of you!
Can't tell ya how many times I've "just about" pulled the plug over on "my other Thread" only to keep ‘er going due to a surge in interest. However, there's no denying that we aren't attracting any new blood. So, perhaps the time has come . . . makes no sense to take away from here for there, eh
Many THANX for stopping by!
Mike at 7:41 PM yesterday: A fine spate of URLs from "silent Mike" the bar's URLMeisterMonster!
Enjoyed ‘em all and as always, several brought to mind some fine - super fine - memories. Well THAT's what the Classic Trains idea is all about, eh Too bad so many just don't get it! But that's ‘nother story . . . .
A rather "dinged up" GG1, but always enjoy looking at ‘em! Nice looking Pennsy car too in URL #1 . . .
URL #2 and the George Washington observation "tail" car . . .
URL # 3 ‘n #4 - Chicago, Chicago - my kinda town!
URL # 5 - Nice looking C&O diesel, but where Hmmmmm.
URL #6 - NYCs RDCs along the Hudson - northbound - and mighty fine lookin'!
That's an RDC3 in the lead with two RDC1s in consist . . .
URL #7 - Fine looking NP Alco switcher loco AND RDC3!
URL #8 - Pennsy K4 Pacific steam w/heavyweights!
Eric at 11:33 PM yesterday: Long time, no see BUT happy you returned! Sometimes it's a good thing to recharge the batteries, eh
Fine inclusive Post and good job of catching up, fer sure, fer sure!
Not sure I'd enjoy following too closely on the rails to anything that could cause grief to my well being upon a sudden and surprising STOP! <groan>
So, did I "get it" Referring to the signal displays, of course!
Interesting aspect of the rails in your Pix - almost looks as if they are out of alignment! <oooops>
Raining in the desert - not a bad phenomena, eh
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, tonight I would like a Sugar Cured Ham Sandwich! Yep, the usual kind! Coffee!
Monday evening! A rainy day in Phoenix, some thunder and lightning and rain. We certainly need a lot of rain, so let it come! Kind of strange feeling not to visit Our Place yesterday.
Tom – I don’t know, personally I have never had any problems understanding signals at a long distance when operating a train. What used to be more of a concern was back when there was no ATC and I was following other trains. The signals usually showed “Stop” when I first saw them (and that was expected) but at the same time I knew that they should turn to “Clear” shortly before I got to it. That is if nothing had happened to the other train. Then you just had to stay cool as long as possible but you had to be prepared to apply full service brake when you passed an invisable line to make sure you could actually stop before passing the next signal. There is always a sign at “normal” braking distance to the signal but you always waited beyond that sign. Didn't want to lose speed and momentum.These situations were common during the nights when there are many freight trains running after each other. In Sweden most freight trains are running during the nights, leaving more room on the tracks for passenger trains during daytime. However, all this changed when ATC was installed and you couldn’t follow that close anymore. if you tried the ATC would apply the brakes and stop you.Santa Fe, indeed a very classic railroad! Sure would like to have that book! Nice pictures of a very good looking engine, ATSF F7!!Two train-connected movies at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre this week! I think I have Runaway train on tape. Have to check that. Louisville and Nashville Railroad! Another railroad I have to look up! Ready for a work week? No, but no one cares, I had to show up at the office anyway. 305 days til Dec 21!Doug – Kind of snowy weather in the Chicago area! I guess those indoor pictures are the Oriental Theatre. For whatever reason the first thing that came to my mind was that there are an awful lot of corners and things to dust. But it looks nice! The “whatever it is” outside the Thompson Center is... different. Lars – House hunting! I understand you and your Mrs 100%. Stay away from snow and ice! It must be a nice feeling to find a house for the family almost in the middle of the sea! Good luck!Good idea, order a snack tray and forget it so the little ones can hace it! I should have checked the menu better. But don’t tell the Captain! A very nice book cover! I actually have that book! Bought it in late 2005. A lot of interesting info in it. Nice ads for “travel by Pullman”! Most from the UK. Plus the picture of that British Pullman car. A lot of glass in the doors.James – Get well soon and stay away from colds in the future! I have been lucky the last few years and have not had a cold for three years now. Centralia, WA is located south of Olympia on the railroad line to Portland, OR. Nice pictures! NP’s mixed train is very short! Grand Canyon in the wintertime! Nice looking locomotives!Mike – Some nice links as usual! I like the picture of the GG1! Yes, the picture with the X2000 was taken from Sears Tower in Chicago. X2000 itself can be seen on the track next to the canal (in my picture that is).
Finally a picture for Pete. I thought I had a much better picture of Class S1 #1921, but this is the only one.
Class 21 was a small locomotive used for light trains on branch lines.
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
George Washington is 275, born February 11, 1731 until the King of England synchronized his watch.
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Chesapeake & Ohio
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Northern Pacific
http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_148_np_budd_rail-diesel_car_duluth_mn_terminal_1963.jpg
Pennsylvania Railroad
Mike
G'day Cap'n Tom & fellow travelers at the bar!
Hi Ho Ruth my deAH! Where are all the guys today
Let's see - in the U.S. we're "celebrating" President's Day - so that puts CM3 I'm NOT Shane! OOC (out of commission) - Wolfman Pete is probably still away for his extended weekend - barndad Doug most probably working - Rob has dropped off of the earth (again) and the list goes on ‘n on . . . Really thought that with yesterday "off," we'd see an upswing . . .
Well, I'm here and I'm ready for a Lars special hero sandwich - ham, Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH and two pickles from the barrel. Ah yes, a saucer of brine for Tex, bucket of ice cubes for Frostbite, a tray of seed for Awk and of course a small jar of pickled pig's feet for Boris! Round for the house, IF we get customers that is! Keep the change my sweet! <grin>
Outstanding work this past Saturday by our mentor and leader. The excellence continued today with those earlier posts for the Budd-Wabash and the Fallen Flag Southern Pacific. Really enjoyed both and hope they don't wind up being "glossed over" as I fear so many of the fine works are these days. Seeing a bit more of the "hit ‘n run" stuff and it is bothersome. Doesn't really take a lot of effort to acknowledge the other guy. Hey! I'm the Manager and I CAN say these things!
Back to the SP, nice pix at the end!
Glad you liked my spread of "book covers" etc. on Saturday!
On the house-hunting progress: Seems that our boys have picked up on the idea of purchasing a home down here. They are all for it and want to be a part of the "deal." They figure that a family get-away would be the way to go, with Mom ‘n Pop having "first dibs" for whatever time we wish. The Mrs. thinks that would pretty much lock us in to having it all to ourselves and not having to worry about rentals and property management, etc. So, looks like we're going into "business" as a family!
Came across a few places that seem to "work" for us and now it's a matter of choosing. We agreed that this is the time to make the decision, after all it's ONLY money! <groan> <fingers crossed>
One of our boys has a boat, a 27 footer and he's just "chomping at the bit" to get it down here and "play" in the Keys. They've already begun ‘scheming' and the like to line up for "who gets to come down" game.
Of course we're not getting rid of or away from our home on Staten Island. That will always remain in the family, long after we're both gone. However, this Florida "thing" has really stoked the coals so much that the Mrs. is acting like she's getting ready for her first Prom. <grin> <lucky me!>
Not sure now whether we will in fact depart the end of this week as planned. Fortunately, we had full fare reservations with "open end" returns, so no sweat on "penalties" and so forth. Should we get to a point where we'll be getting into the buying mode - we'll probably just stick around ‘til the funds can get transferred and all the papers signed on the dotted lines, etc.
So, that's IT from my end of things. Weather down here is still beautiful, but as I mentioned the other day, highs in the 60s. Should be climbing back into the 80s before week's end. Ahhhh, paradise it is.
Phil wants to get in a bit of fishing this evening, so just he ‘n I will try our luck. Says he knows of a "special place" where the fish always are looking to bite. We'll see.
Noted that ‘things' on the "other thread" have had a bit of activity, but not very much. I really think you should closer it up, Cap'n Tom. What's the point No new guys are showing up and sometimes it seems like the more we provide over there, the less we see here. Now that was NOT the intention. For what it's worth, mate!
Hope y'all stay healthy ‘n happy . . . .
Until the next time!
Lars
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #1
Southern Pacific Railroad (SP)
Headquarters: San Francisco, CA
Mileage:
1950: 15,039 (including subsidiary St. Louis-Southwestern)
1955: 178,340 (including subsidiaries, SW, SPCSL, and D&RGW)
Locomotives in 1963:
Diesel: 2,096
Rolling stock in 1963:
Freight cars 77,401 - Passenger cars: 1,002
Principal lines as of 1950:
Los Angeles-San Francisco via San Jose
San Jose-Ogden, Utah
Davis, CA-Portland, OR, via Chemult and Eugene, OR
Eugene-Black Butte via Roseburg, OR
Sacramento-Burbank (LA) via Bakersfield
Lathrop-Martinez, CA
LA-New Orleans via Phoenix, AZ
El Paso, TX-Tucumcari, NM
Galveston-Dallas/Denison, TX via Houston and Hearne
Rosenburg-Brownsville, TX
Houston-Shreveport, LA
St. Louis-Dallas/Ft. Worth (SSW)
Memphis, TN-Brinkley, AR
Mt. Pleasant-Waco, TX (SSW)
Lewisville, AK-Shreveport, LA (SSW)
Principal added lines as of 1996:
Tucumcari-St. Louis via Kansas City
St. Louis-Chicago via Bloomington, IL
Kansas City-Chicago via Quincy, IL (trackage rights on BNSF)
Kansas City-Chicago via Ft. Madison, IA (trackage rights on BNSF)
Ogden-Pueblo, CO via Salt Lake City, UT and Salida, CO
Dotsero-Pueblo, CO via Grandby and Denver
Pueblo-Kansas City via Salinas, KS (trackage rights on UP)
Notable passenger trains:
Argonault (LA-New Orleans)
Cascade (Oakland-Portland)
City of San Francisco (Oakland-Chicago via Ogden; joint with UP and C&NW) - Milwaukee Road after 1955)
Coast Daylight (San Francisco-LA via San Luis Obispo; for a time also known as Morning Daylight)
Del Monte (San Francisco-Monterey, CA)
Golden State Limited (LA-Chicago via Tucumcari; joint with Rock Island)
Hustler (Houston-Dallas)
Imperial (LA-Chicago via Tucumcari; joint with Rock Island)
Lark (Oakland/San Francisco-LA via San Luis Obispo)
Owl (San Francisco-LA via Bakersfield)
Sacramento Daylight (Sacramento-LA via Bakersfield)
San Francisco Overland (Until Oct 1955, Oakland-Chicago via Ogden; joint with UP and C&NW; after 1955 Oakland-St. Louis joint with the Wabash Railroad)
San Joaquin Daylight (Oakland-LA via Bakersfield)
Shasta Daylight (Oakland-Portland)
Starlight (San Francisco-LA)
Sunbeam (Houston-Dallas)
Sunset Limited (Initially San Francisco-New Orleans via San Joaquin Valley; later cut back to LA-New Orleans).
SP Golden State in Palm Springs (1948) (fair use)
SP Golden State in New Mexico (1947) (fair use)
SP City of San Francisco in Wyoming (1948) (fair use)
Here's something from the "original" Thread, now on Page 5 of the Forums!!
http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587
from Page 147 of the "original" Thread
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #14
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Budd Company and the Wabash from a advertisement (early 1950s) found in one of my scrap books.
New Blue Bird On The Wabash This is the Wabash Railroad's new Budd-built, all-stainless steel Blue Bird, on its winging flight between St. Louis and Chicago. The Blue Bird will make the round trip daily between these two great terminal cities, adding to the completeness of Wabash service and presenting to its passengers comfort and luxury in rail travel previously unknown. For the Blue Bird is the latest in the roster of distinguished name trains which Budd has created for the modernization of American railroads. Four of its cars are Vista-Domes, giving passengers an unobstructed view of the rolling prairies, picturesque bluffs and river scenery along the way. Like all Budd-designed, Budd-built equipment, this train illustrates a principle - that better products are made of ideas as well as steel. This was true of the all-steel automobile body which Budd originated and which has made Budd the largest independent builder of body components in the world. It was true of the steel wheel which Budd developed to take the place of wood. It has been demonstrated in the Budd Disc Brake, and in stainless steel highway trailers. In the railroad field, Budd ideas were revolutionary. Ideas that attract passengers by making rail travel more inviting. Ideas that permit faster schedules and yield substantial operating economies. It was Budd vision which led to the whole concept of the modern, stainless steel light weight streamliner. And Budd today is the only car builder who employs the superior strength of stainless steel to achieve lightweight construction with safety.
The Budd Co., Philadelphia, Detroit Budd
A smile to begin the week!
Stay alert! You can observe a lot by watching.
(A Yogi-ism!)
Are we READY for a new work week (for many)
Let's begin it with a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from the Menu Board, some pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case and a mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee <unleaded> or <regular>!
Looks as if this may be our final day of snow ‘n ice cover here in mid-continent USA as the temps are expected to rise into the 50s. Tomorrow perhaps the 60s and "zap" it'll be all gone. <sniff> <sniff> Juneau and I hate to see it go, but such are the ways of winter into spring, eh
Just one weekend evening ACKNOWLEDGMENT and that was from James at 8:39 PM Saturday. Nothing inclusive, but a visit nonetheless . . . Great looking passenger "steamer" and a fine looking FA!
Quiet place on Saturday, fer sure, fer sure EXCEPT for the Proprietor who provided 4 Posts to keep us "up on the Forum"! 2ME!
Looks like our new schedule has "worked" as our guys all took Sunday off - well deserved!
G-day Toma and all present.
Leon- I would "really" appreciate a coffee right about now. I have a terrible head cold. Thanks
Yes, it's true. I have caught a cold after 8 or 9 months without a cold or flu. I don't feel the best. <groan> I'm going to drop off some pictures and get back to the acknowledgements later.
http://www.lundsten.dk/us_signaling/aspects_up1988/index.html
If you go to this webcite, you can find the signals that closely resemble to what we use today. These signals were used on the Union Pacfic back in 1988, but they are the closest representation I could find on what is used.
Here is a small NP passenger train/ frieght sitting in the siding at Centralia. I do not know exactly were Centralia is located. Here's a littl info on the train.
Mixed Train Daily Northern Pacific Railroad's mixed train No. 596-591 poses on siding at Centralia before starting out on one of its final runs. Dwindling business forces the railroad to abandon passenger service on its Willapa Harbor branch line from Centralia to South Bend. Photographer Alan deLay was hired by The Oregonian to document the train a week before the final run. The actual last train ran on March 19, 1954. Mixed passenger and freight trains were once common on branch lines around America. Although they ran on a timetable schedule, the pace was slower than regular passenger trains. Departure and arrival times at Centralia were coordinated with mainline passenger trains for the convenience of travelers. The rest of the trip was leisurely enough to accommodate the switching of freight cars along the way. Allan deLay photo.
Photo from: www.pacificcohistory.org/sw2004_2.htm
Here is a picture of the Grand Canyon railway's bueatifully restored FA-1s. In this picture you can only see two of the four locomotives they own.
photo from: www.flickr.com/photos/meleniephx/117439916/
Nice Post from the Larsman on a Saturday at that!
Taking a bit of time off down there in the Keys, eh <grin> Sounds like you're about to establish residency!
Appreciate those book covers - posters, etc. on Pullman International! Nicely done, Sir.
This is "it" for me 'til Monday AM . . . so enjoy the weekend to all who frequent this joint!
ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday
Initially Posted on Page 146 of the "original" Thread
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #13
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Louisville and Nashville (L&N) from an advertisement in Classic American Trains
The NEW Crescent A GRAND NEW TRAIN WITH A GRAND OLD NAME In Daily Service between New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington and New York Recommend and Sell the Year's Finest Travel Packge STREAMLINED, STAINLESS STEEL CARS The Crescent is new from end to end. It's the last word in streamliners. all cars are constructed of stainless steel and offer latest comfort and safety features. ALL-PRIVATE-ROOM SLEEPERS A selection of five different type private rooms - new 3-bed master room with shower and individual radio, drawing room, bedroom en suite, bedroom, and roomette. Each offers private lavatory, clothes closet, ice water and individually controlled lighting, heating and air conditioning. LOUNGE AND OBSERVATION CARS The finest atmosphere is found in the mid-train club lounge and the luxurious observation car. Comfortable chairs, music and convenient game or writing tables offer a "club on wheels" for rest and relaxation. NOTHING FINER IN DINERS The Crescent diners serve Southern cooking at is best. Every service to make every meal a travel treat has been provided - even to telephone communication between sleeping cars and diners. COACH SERVICE De luxe coaches with individual reclining seats are operated between New Orleans and Atlanta with connecting service beyond.
LOUISVILLE AND NASHVILLE RAILROAD
Ruth, I'll take a number three from the menu board, a steaming mugga Joe with a "BK" splash and a couple of pastries from the Mentor Bakery. My, my you look simply radiant, as usual, this fine day!
Another day in paradise, but the temperatures have dipped into the 60's for the HIGH! Good Grief Charlie Brown! <grin> Not to worry, skies are partly cloudy and lots of blue up there. Going to be a bit chilly for these parts, but a warm up is anticipated in a couple of days.
Time has really passed quickly for us and we'll be back home this time next week. Mixed emotions on that. The Mrs. and I have found THE place we want to spend more time at and it surely looks as if we will.
Just got back from "house hunting" as a matter of fact. Spent more than a few hours scouring the area for that "just right" place. Many, many condos and I've always had a FEAR of owning one. We'd much prefer the "townhouse" arrangement. But, I know we'd have NO problems with renting or leasing out either for the times we wouldn't be here. Looks as if that's what we may do. Just gotta find that "perfect" spot. Fortunately we have Phil and his Mrs. to help us out, at least until they return to upstate NY in the spring.
Nice pix from Eric and I think my "vote" is cast alongside that of the Cap'n for those signal displays.
Having spent the bulk of my seagoing career below decks, light displays were restricted to the varied and assorted machinery and panels found there. While on deck though, I always found myself fascinated by the running lights and masthead lights of passing vessels. Same while sitting up in the dome cars while traversing the landscape by rail. Always liked to "check out" the signal lights. Gotta be sure they were "set right" huh
Eric, Eric, Eric - all you gotta do is order something and the coffee is FREE! Order a "snack tray" for the critters and it's cheaper than a five buck cuppa Joe! See, it's right there on the menu board, beneath the "Pepto".ad! <grin>
Yeah Doug, life is a "itch" - then you die! <grin> Interesting, but confusing pix . . . musts be ME! Got a kick outta the joke. We had a dog like that long time ago. Loveable mutt for sure. An old "hound dog" if I ever saw one. A beagle-basset mix. Miss the old guy to this day.
Tom - Enjoyed that Santa Fe "mix" - sweet! Interesting movie selections for next week. I don't recall seeing either of the main features. As far as the Stooges go, I don't remember the titles! Just absolute silly stuff that sort of gets "lost" in the circuitry if ya know wutImean! <grin> Anyway, good job, as always!
I see that it is Saturday Encore & Pix Posting time, so let me get to some "bookcovers," posters ‘n stuff, most of which have been provided B4, but on which pages, WHO KNOWS! <grin>
Ok, ok - I'll ASK: WHERE THE BLAZES IS ROB Send us an e-mail or something just to let us know you haven't disappeared into the ether . . . <geesh>
Manager Lars
This is ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!Starting tomorrow at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . Sunday, February 18th thru 24th: Runaway Train (1986) Starring: Jon Voight, Eric Roberts, Rebecca De Mornay, Kyle T. Heffner & John P. Ryan - and - Strangers On A Train (1951) Starring: Farley Granger, Ruth Roman, Robert Walker, Leo G. Carroll & Patricia Hitchcock. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Calling All Curs (1939).
Runaway Train (1986)
PLOT SUMMARY:
A hardened convict and a younger prisoner escape from a brutal prison in the middle of winter only to find themselves on an out-of-control train with a female railway worker while being pursued by the vengeful head of security.
from: amazon.com
Strangers On A Train (1951)
Psychotic mother's boy Bruno Anthony meets famous tennis professional Guy Haines on a train. Guy wants to move into a career in politics and has been dating a senator's daughter (Ann Morton) while awaiting a divorce from his wife. Bruno wants to kill his father, but knows he will be caught because he has a motive. Bruno dreams up a crazy scheme whereby he and Guy exchange murders. Guy takes this as a joke, but Bruno is serious and takes things into his own hands.
SHORT: Calling All Curs (1939)PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly
The Stooges are veterinarians treating a rich lady's dog Garcon. Two men, posing as reporters, come to check out the Stooges' clinic. They are really dognappers who capture Garcon and hold him for a $2000 ransom. The Stooges then search for Garcon and arrive at the home of the dognappers. The boys thwart the villains and find Garcon in a closet with puppies.
from: threestooges.net
Hey Doug! Nice to see ya, was wonderin . . . .
Not sure I "understand" all of the Pix, but appreciate 'em nonetheless.
It's trying to snow here, but all "they" are calling for are flurries with perhaps nothing more than an inch total throughout the day. <barf> I WANT snow, butt deep to an elephant would be just fine with us!
So, let's see what I can "dig up" for this first Saturday Photo Posting Day!
The Santa Fe should be fine . . .
ATSF Along Your Way (1945) (fair use provision)
The Chief drumhead
ATSF F7B (public domain)
ATSF F7A #300C (foto credit: unknown)
ATSF Super Chief Drumhead (fair use provision)
Catch y'all later on . . . .
Good morning Tom and gang! One light breakfast please.
We've got another snowy day here in Chicagoland, but only a few inches. So today is a picture/ENCORE day, and I just happen to have a few from our trip into Chicago last Wednesday. Today is another paint-day for me, so I'll be in and out. Also got an ADT security guy showing up in a few hours to discuss a system that will keep burglars from coming in and switching my SP model tender backwards, like must have happened recently.
Good to see manager Lars and details on his ordeals in the sunny Keys of Florida. Poor guy ... missing all this snow.
Glad to see a CN&W car in todays pix (courtesy of Eric), because here's the old CN&W heralds on the walls of the station (now Ogilvie). Sorry for the poor quality, but you can't get to this location except by train.
Really enjoyed the other pix too, especially the narrow gage roundhouse.
The other train pix inside the station were even worse, so no use showing those. We went to the Oriental Theatre to see "Wicked"
Here's a picture of the ... um whatever this is ... in front of the Thompson Center
That's all the pictures for now. I'll be back later with more!
Upon entering the little country store, the stranger noticed a sign saying: "DANGER! BEWARE OF DOG!" posted on the glass door. Inside he noticed a harmless old hound dog asleep on the floor besides the cash register.
He asked the store manager, "Is THAT the dog folks are supposed to beware of?"
"Yep, that's him," he replied.
The stranger couldn't help but be amused. "That certainly doesn't look like a dangerous dog to me. Why in the world would you post that sign?"
"Because" the owner replied, "before I posted that sign, people kept tripping over him."
With the light snow falling, mixed with freezing rain, the tracks made by Juneau during this past week have been pretty much covered over. Not much more on the way though, as this too shall pass. "They" say we'll be in the mid-40s (F) early in the week. <boooooo hisssss>
I see we're off to a glorious start for our combined Photo Posting ‘n ENCORE! day ‘round the Tavern by the Tracks! For anyone who has totally missed the reminders Posted throughout the past week, we've made some changes here at "Our" Place.
Sunday the place is CLOSED up tighter ‘n a tick! Slide all messages through the mail slots on either set of front doors. BUT, I'll not be ‘round to read ‘em! A day of REST.
Saturday is now our "official" ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day! Simple enough, eh <youbetcha!>
I'm not expecting very much activity today, as Pete is gone - Rob is gone (to where and for how long, who knows - Doug is gone (maybe) - our Monday thru Friday crew is gone (CM3 ‘n DL) - Lars is still in paradise - BK "down under" and so on . . . . So, we'll just "take what we gets!" <grin>
CM3 at 9:51 AM yesterday: I won! I won! So, WHAT did I win <grin>
Good stuff on the Northern Pacific, I'm ready to go as well. What a great Rendezvous trip that would be, eh
Thanx for the quarters 'n round!
DL at 12:47 PM yesterday: Always good to have you aboard, even if for a brief stop! Never expected you to be one of "those" who just disappears . . . so, we'll be looking forward to a return to "normalcy" when your work and other commitments permit!
Lars at 4:06 PM yesterday: The four of you must've really had quite a Valentine's Day! Now THAT's the way to "do it," eh I checked out some of the info on the web for the "paradise" you visited and it surely seems a bit "over the top" for the likes of Moi! HOWEVER, surely wouldn't mind experiencing it - just ONCE! Thanx for sharing the info with us . . .
Over time, I've met more than a few people who have expressed themselves thusly, "Gee, I wish I wudda done this or that!" So, I concur wholeheartedly with your assessment of doing those things in your "mind's eye" NOW. Sure, there are other factors to consider, but don't let any of ‘em become obstacles! There is a difference.
Thanx for stopping by . . .
Eric at 1:33 AM today: I can see how accidents occur on the rails. Signals can be difficult to discern at certain distances when reaction time is critical. Same when one is out at sea peering thru the "binocs" and wonderin' this ‘n that about a vessel's course and intentions. Interesting similarities, eh
If those signals in the foreground are approach signals, then on the right it looks like "expect stop," whereas on the right it is "expect clear." Now for the signals further on down the line, wouldn't wager a guess. What say you
That's quite a Pix of the rail yard - lots of passenger equipment. Could be most anywhere, but I await your details! X2000 Why it's just "nosing" out of the train shed! <grin>
Thanx for the Pix! You're the FIRST to kick off our new format, soooooo - coffee's on the house!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. Tonight is Steak 'n all the trimminings Nite! Dinner begins at 5 PM.
Good morning Captain Tom and all present!!
Ooops, I think Leon is asleep... Hey, Leo... That's okay! No I am not going to tell! Kind of slow Friday night I guess. No, okay, a $5 cup of coffee, please. Do you really? Okay, I'll have a danish as well! Thank you!
Tom – I hope St. Louis will get a little bit warmer in May! Pictures of myself working for the railroad are few. The one I showed last night was taken by the conductor without any warning. So I did not have a chance to improve my make up. Same thing about a picture of me operating the X2000. I did not even notice that they (ABB, the manufacturer) took it and then they used it in their ads around the world for quite some time. I know, five bucks for a cup of coffee is kind of steep. But what can I do? Smile and looke happy! Coffee is always coffee! Almost. Northern Pacific Railway! Riding a Vista-Dome through the Rockies and the Cascades must have been real nice! Wonder if they passed through the mountains during night time? CM3 – You are right, we were all young once! Now I am 27++ and that is not too bad. At least that is what I feel like. The NP consist info is interesting. When did NP cease their passenger service? 1971?DL – Thanks for the round! Hope to see you again soon!Lars – You obviously had a fantastic Valentine’s Day evening!! Sounds like a place very close to Paradise! The only thing missing would be a railroad!?
Since it is Saturday, Photo Posting Day, I'll add a few pictures in random order.
Narrow gauge box car.
Pete, a narrow gauge roundhouse! Still standing today but not in use.
Also for Pete, Class S1 approaching with a short train. A closer look at the locomotive in a few days.
Where in the world is the X2000? And what track?
What signal aspects do we see here? Check the next picture.
Again, signal aspects used in Sweden.
Ruth my deAH, I'll take a double hit of JD on the rocks, a round for the house and treats for the critters. Yes, yes, include a small jar of pickled pig's feet for our resident Cyclops, Boris!
Gee Tom, had I known you weren't going to be around, I'd have checked in earlier. Sorry ‘bout that! Wuddathunk some of the guys . . . but then again, WHAT guys!
Valentine's Day and night was spectacular and perhaps never to be done quite as nicely as we experienced. Phil surely treated us all to one fantastic event. Let me tell y'all just a bit about it.
Little Torch Key is the location and Little Palm Island is where we were treated to a fabulous evening. Dinner was outside under a mostly clear sky with the temperatures comfortable enough to only have to wear a light sweater, if that. Dinner by torch light. How's that for romantic! It's really a South Seas type resort located right here in the states! The only way to the island is by sea plane or boat. Now that's rather exclusive, huh I'm telling you guys, this IS the life! A gold-star 5- salute for sure!
We remained aboard Phil's boat for the night as no one really wanted to navigate back up the Keys after such a relaxing and fun time. I can just imagine what that may have led to! <ugh> Got back yesterday afternoon to dropping temperatures and rather unseasonable weather. Could it be the COLD has gotten this far SOUTH!!
Now back to reality. We'll be packing up and heading north next week. <boo hoo> Sorry to leave all of this. However, if there's one thing the Mrs. and I have surely learned it is that IF the resources are available, one should DO the things they've always wanted to DO, while able. No point in moaning and groaning later on in life about "shuddas & cuddas."
Want to make a comment about our Rendezvous in St. Louis. Cap'n Tom, you've really put together one fantastic agenda and the Good Lord Willing and the creek don't rise, I'll be there! Even the Mrs. is envious of what we'll all be doing! She does understand that this is for the "boys" and of course those who have spent so much time at "Our" Place, that for us, it somehow becomes REALITY.
Can't comment on the Toronto get together, but I'd say this one coming is going to be hard to top. Really looking forward to it. x 5!
Thanks for all the nostalgia posts, Cap'n Tom! Really keeps things perkin' along. Phil has enjoyed them too, but still seems reluctant to "jump in." Says he's really not ‘into' stuff like this, but is fascinated by the enormous amount of "quality" posts. Now that's a compliment, huh
Ok, time for me to skedaddle. Not sure what the weekend plans are, but things are going to be a bit on the chilly side. So I'm sure we'll not be on the water! <grin>
Hello Tom
Just a quick call by - I'll have a beer and leave some change on the bar for a round for whoever is in. Been a bad week this week with tasks to do - not even managed catch up since my last post really - although I'm aware I owe a few replies on this and that. Eventually I'll find time as reviewing the posts is very pleasant! Various evenings I've had to meet up with people in my local pub too - so you can see how the pressure is on!
This was just to say I have no intention of joining the legion of the lost so will be back with you as soon as I can.
Very best wishes
DL
Good Morning Barkeep and All Preset; coffee, please, fresh bricks for the boots; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Temperature here this a.m. was about 4 degrees; may get up to 15 this p.m. and then three more days of "snow showers" which means that the rotary will be fired up.
Barndad stopped by for a visit, good to hear from you.
Pete also stopped in with comments.
Eric - We were all young once (LOL) - but it was a long time ago!
Our ‘Steamed Proprietor gets the prize for the quiz question.
Chesapeake and Ohio is correct.
Rhine - was for the New River
Alps was for the Mountains
Battlefield was for all the Civil War battlefields near the C&O.
Also thanks for NP material.
Here's some consist information (c. 1969) for NP "name" trains.
Trains 1 and 2 "Mainstreeter"
Slumbercoach (8 double rooms 24 single rooms between Chicago and Seattle). One Slumbercoach operated via CB&Q between Chicago and Minneapolis and another on NP 1 and 2 between Minneapolis and Seattle.
Reclining seat coaches
Economy buffet car
Trains 25 and 26 "North Coast Limited"
Dome buffet sleeper
Sleepers including duplex roomettes, roomettes, duplex single rooms, bedrooms.
Vista dome coaches
Reclining Seat day-nite coaches
Travellers rest car (Buffet lounge)
Dining car
"Check-in desk for coach seats on the North Coast Limited at the Chicago Union Station. Passengers must check-in at least 10 minutes before train departure time. Desk is near train gate.
I'm ready to leave now!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #12
Initially Posted on Page 145 of the "original" Thread
Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with Classic Trains. Check out this ad (from The Official Guide of the Railways - 1956)
Look what they're saying about the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited! "FOUR VISTA-DOMES . . . the view really is terrific on the Northern Pacific!" "Pride of the Northwest . . . a train second to none!" "One of the top trains in the country" "A LOVELY STEWARDESS-NURSE . . . so kind to me and my children" "Most friendly and courteous employees" "Comfortable trip - delicious meals. Our compliments to the chef" "THE TRAVELLER'S REST buffet-lounge . . . most unique car we've ever seen . . . captures the flavor and romance of the West" "WON'T YOU BE MY GUEST?" Now a friendly Stewardess-Nurse welcomes you aboard the Vista-Dome North Coast Limited. You'll enjoy extra traveling pleasure at no extra cost - in fact, even low Family Fares apply! Heading East or West through the scenic Northwest, you'll see for yourself why passengers call it . . . . . . . . One of the world's Extra Fine trains . . . . . . . . . . For complete information, write . . . . . G. W. RODINE, Passenger Traffic Manager . . . . . . . . . . Northern Pacific Railway, St. Paul 1, Minn. . . . . . CHICAGO - TWIN CITIES - SPOKANE - PORTLAND - TACOMA - SEATTLE Enjoy! Tom
*Idiot of the Week #4
A motorist was unknowingly caught in an automated speed trap that
measured his speed using radar and photographed his car. He later
received in the mail a ticket for $40 and a photo of his car.
Instead of payment, he sent the police department a photograph of
$40. Several days later, he received a letter from the police that
contained another picture, this time of handcuffs. He immediately
mailed in his $40.
Wise guy....... but you still get a sign
STAY ALERT!
They walk among us .. and they REPRODUCE ..!!!
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Good <brrrrrrrrrrr> morning <brrrrrrrrrrrrr> from the frigid mid-continent of the USA! If it hasn't gone below zero - well, I'll be the first to tell ya it feels like it. And of course, Juneau the Wonder Husky is in his element! <yay>
Coffee's hot - pastries fresh ‘n breakfasts are ready!
I'll be gone for the rest of this morning and into mid-afternoon . . .
Acknowledgments!
Doug at 8:14 PM yesterday: A special treat with a visit from the barndad! Sounds like you and your bride enjoyed your Anniversary! Belated best wishes . . .
Had no clue one could purchase show Tix on eBay! <geesh> Why not, eh
Hockey in the Keys! Why not, eh Hockey in Florida, Georgia, Arizona, southern California, Texas and anywhere else where people attend games in shorts is beyond my limited comprehension! <arrrrggghhhh>
Thanx for the round ‘n the quarters!
Pete at 9:11 PM yesterday: Once doesn't require a "reason" for losing a Post on these Forums - as "reasons" are never given! Happens, eh
Thanx for the links ‘n discussion!
The Amtrak train from Chicago to Denver you referred to is the California Zephyr.
There were soooooooo many trains in ‘n out of St. Louis during the peak of passenger rail travel in this country. Now, in order to travel to the east coast one must first get to Chicago.
We'll miss ya while you're gone . . . good job keeping the stocks "up"!
Eric at 1:15 AM today: IF only we could take the Jeffersonian once agan! Heck, I'd fly to New York just to make the return trip by train for our Rendezvous!!
Nice that you have Pix of yourself back in the days when you had your rail career. I have very few, but then again, most of us didn't think to take photos while hanging on for dear life out at sea!
Appreciate your taking the time to stop in - however - five bucks for a cuppa Joe! <grin>
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. Tonight is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite! Dinner begins at 5 PM.
Leon, just a cup of coffee, please! No, I have to get up early so I can't stay long. No, keep the change!
Tom – I can only repeat what you said about Australia, – what might have been!? I have my papers somewhere in a box in the attic. Thanks for the info on the Ranch Car! I like the interior! Nice cars from 1951, equipped with air conditioning and disc brakes. I like the UP ad! I think there were pretty good connections between Chicago and Denver back then. Leave in the late afternoon and arrive there in the early morning.Too bad we can’t take the Jeffersonian to St. Louis in May! James – X1 is an EMU that first saw service in 1967. Each unit consists of two cars. Usually they are running 2-4 units together. Interesting info on CTC! Back when I worked as a locomotive dispatcher (mid 80’s) I had my desk behind the train dispatchers in a CTC central. I got 2 days training as a train dispatcher. Not that I was supposed to work as one, just to get a feeling for what kind of job they were doing.
CM3 – The answers to the political correct quiz are... hmm, too obvious to figure out. At least for me! Question number 7 explains why I am not a wealthy person! It is because I am an evening person and I hate early mornings! The morning people rule the world. Doug – Happy Belated Anniversary!! Nice to see you again even if it s only for a short moment!Pete – The RETB seems to be very similar to the Swedish Radio Block Signaling system. I don’t know very much about it so I will not draw any conclusions on how similar it is. I’ll see if I can find more info on it. Thanks for the links. I have to come back to them later to read all the info.As far as I know there are a number of steam specials run on the main line in Sweden every year. I wouldn’t say many, but some. You are correct about IORE. It needs a lot of weight to be able to use all that power. It weighs 661,500 lb and the Tractive Effort is 1350 kN (303,750 lbf).
Yeah, I know. I looked younger then! The picture was taken 1982 when I (as usual) was operating a X1 train set.
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of something strong please LEON I have just lost my post(how I managed that this time is beyond me).
MIKE More great links. Wonderful pics of New York and three great railroad ads.
Great photo of Corrour on the West Highland Line in Scotland(not England). The locomotive is an England Electric class 37/4 Co-Co 1,750HP diesel electric hauling MK1 carriages.The 37/4 locos were modified at Crewe works from the standard 37s to be able to provide electric train heat after steam heat was phased out on BR. All the passenger services on the West Highland are in the hands of DMUs today apart from the Fort William sleeper.Although I believe the newer class 67 locos are taking over from the 37/4s on the sleeper. The 37s are ending their over 40 year reign on BR, they have been a very good loco.
The photo must have been taken soon after the Radio Electronic Token Block(RETB) was introduced on the line. there is the sign informing drivers to stop and get the RETB token for the next single line section, also in the pic is the signal posts that carried the removed semaphore signal arms. I have found a couple of links that explaines about RETB.
http://members.madasafish.com/~dysgraphyk/156/class156_retb.htm
http://www.signalbox.org/branches/aj/
ERIC I am looking forward to the pics of the class S1 steam loco on the special. Do you know if there are many steam specials run on the main line in Sweden today.
I guess that the IORE locomotives had to be made heavy to give better adhesion with the very high horesepower they produced.
JAMES I am sure you will have a great time in Chicago.
I found the post on the CTC signalling very interesting Thanks It will be great to read some more about North American signals. The links I have put in my reply to Mike tell about radio being used on BR, although it has only been used in fairly recent times there, I think radio as been used a lot longer over here to despatch trains.
TOM They are saying we are in for the coldest night tonight BRRRR then getting warmer. There is an old saying in England that if the snow hangs about it is waiting for more.
Thanks for the UP and PRR nostalgia ADs. I think there is still a train from Chicago to Denver as I was in Denver a couple of years ago. I think the train is about Breakfast time westbound and late evening eastbound. We did look into going on this but it was a long bus connection from Kansas City, where we were at the time. I dont know if the bus connection is even there any more.
What a great trip it would be from St Louis to New York by train.I guess it is many years since there was a rail service between the two cities.
That really is an interesting lnk to the GN Ranch-Lounge cars, as you say very well worth checking out.
DOUG Just caught your post. Glad you had a good evening at the theatre and the Barrington Hills tour is something well worth looking forward to as is the rendezvous.Thanks for the round
Well I shall be away from the bar for a couple of days, as we are off to the bride's moms, so let me get a round in Leon and I'll have some Fish'N'Chips to give me energy to make sure the bar is well stocked.
Pete.
Good evening Tom and friends. I'll have a bottomless draught and by a round for the house. Belated congrats on reching the 22nd month milestone two days ago. Seems to be some nice activity here as usual, with the also usual fine postings.
Yesterday was my bride and my anniversary. We celebrated by hopping the Metra into Chicago, to see the play "Wicked", which by the way, is first rate! By the way, I highly recommend using E-Bay to buy theatre tickets. You will get better seats for a lot less money! The temperature was near zero, and it snowed, but we had a real nice time.
We're all signed-up for our Victorian tour in Barrington Hills on March 31st, so I'll be sharing pictures of that. I've also been getting some real nice e-mails from Tom outlining the Rendezvous in April. We are going to have a great time!
Marathon is nice, if you like warm temperatures, scuba diving, fishing, or relaxing. Seems pretty cushy living to me though, and where's their hockey team? Poor Lars.
Anyhow, just popped in to stay in touch. Weekends are my only time to get into my trains anymore. Everyone take care. I'll leave a roll of Michigan Quarters in the Coal Scuttle.
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