Trains.com

"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD! Locked

1275530 views
9013 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    May 2014
  • 3,727 posts
Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, May 6, 2005 12:03 AM
Good evening gents. Passengerfan i'll take you up on the crown but put a dash of coke in mine please.I don't know the train you are talking about to have seen it, but I beleave that the Elgin County railway Museum in St TRhomas Ontario has one of the pullman's that would have ran on it in thier collection.They are in the old Michagan Central shops in St Thomas, an e-mail to them might get you some info from their archives possibly. A spot of light on your query anyway (hopefully not a train in the tunnel) I don't have their web address handy but I'm guessing a google search for Elgin County Ontario should turn them up for you.Tedthanks for clearing up your local,i'm glad that you are enjoying yourself here I am as well,my tails aren't as old as some of the others here but I try to chip in where I can. Hope you mend quickly. Were you able to reserect any of your old Bowser trolley's or is that not a high priority right now? Anyway gentlemen I'm off to the ONR lands tomorrow so i'll likley not be back till Monday everyone enjoy their mother's day weekends and if I can be so bold try to tink of the WW2 vets this weekend with sunday being the 60th anniversary of VE day. We are heading to the cerimonies at the Northbay cenataph while we are away. Rob
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • 901 posts
Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, May 5, 2005 7:58 PM
Well good evening gentlemen,Im just popping in to cover for Tom tonight,ah Anne,how are you? I trust these gentemen are behaving themselves?? splendid !!! right,a Molsons for me,a little something for you and a round for this bunch of ner`do`wells....now where was I,ah yes,Earlydiesels, the "skarloey" railway runs from "near the works" on Edwards branchline to Skarloey lake.......Or,In the real world,from an end-on junction with the Cambrian Railway at Towyn up to Abergonolwyn......Better known as the Tal-y-Llyn Railway, one of the great little trains of Wales All the engines depicted in the books are real,and for the most part are worked flat out every summer...The line originally had 3 pass. cars plus a bagg. car delivered,with a further pass car delivered later (slightly taller and squarer in profile ) all 4-whl ,about 20 feet long. In Rev. Awdrys world they became Ruth,Anne,Lucy,Jemima & Beatrice [dark blue with cream window panelling] whilst in the real world they are maroon with gold lining (and the engines are mostly green,apart from one of the Corris pair thats in brick red ),right thats me,last person out please turn out the light. Anne,you are doing a wonderful job so far,`night all,nick
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Central Valley California
  • 2,841 posts
Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, May 5, 2005 6:42 PM
I guess I'll just have to drown myself in double Crown Royals this evening as I ponder the wonderful trip on the Ocean to Halifax that our illstrrious leader is embarked upon this evening. Maybe out of envy I'll run my tab up to the max this evening. Drinks for all!
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Central Valley California
  • 2,841 posts
Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, May 5, 2005 6:33 PM
Hi to all. Well guess I'll have a double Crown Royal with Water back.Living here in the Golden State much is made of Cinco De Mayo. I burst one poor Hispanic's bubble today when I asked what the big deal was about beating the French, everyone else in the world has done the same and they don't make a big deal of it.
Another interesting train from the fifties I am looking for more information about is the NYC Wolverine operating between New York and Chicago via Detroit. This train crossed southern Ontario in both directions. It maintained a fast schedule inspite of a number of drops and pickups enroute. The train was a mixture of Budd Stainless steel and Pullman standard two tone Gray. When I have gathered the information will post for all. Its always been one of those trains I wish I had the pleasure of riding. Must say I am a bit envious of Tom travelling on the Ocean this evening as I sit here in rainy California.
  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Los Angeles
  • 1,619 posts
Posted by West Coast S on Thursday, May 5, 2005 6:22 PM
Afternoon Tom and the gang. Dave from the left coast.. I feel guilty being awol from our place for the last week, mosey me something cold on tap, your call please, and i'll fill you in as what my doings have been.

Had to report for requal since my last posting, lotsa fun and a good indicator that i'm not 21 anymore and maybe those extra 20 pounds i've gained weren't such a good idea and maybe I should have more will power to wear my hair at regulation length at all times, never know who you might run into.

On my return to duty ,the lovestruck, but I have to admit , attractive South Korean Air Force Seargent assigned to my department announces "lets be more then co-workers". Advised her can't happen for numerous reasons, reason one: i've been married for 22 years and i'm not seeking any changes to my life, except retirement and seeing 4294 restored.

With all this excitement behind me, and never being one to back down from a subject SP related, became involved in the great SP headlight debate which was raging between several modelers and several self appointed experts, leading me to a source from whom I purchased SP line drawings complied by the Scaramento Shops. With these drawings, the debate was settled with only minor loss of face and a few forced grins. Now I can build those S scale models I need.

Guess it has been an interesting week afterall. Well, I'm going to quiet down and just observe until closing time.
SP the way it was in S scale
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 5, 2005 4:29 PM
I am late getting back to the Pub because of some uninvited health issues that came my way. Seems an old injury has come back to haunt me in the form of requiring a biopsy on my right index finger. Its nothing a "Royal" and soda won't bring to rights. Ah, that sure beats the "goof pills" from the V.A., thanks Ruthy. I'll try to catch-up on recent posts but can't guarantee something won't go missing. I apologize in advance for not covering a response, it isn't an intentional slight.

Well, since my "business finger" is out of "business" and when I must take a "Goof Ball," it means a trip to "Candyland;" not much R.R.ing has been done. That's okay because we are talking Classic Trains hereabouts, right? "Saved by the Topic!" Rob (trollyboy), I understand the mix-up regarding my present location. "To make a long story short:" I returned to Tulsa, OK when I retired from the military (Balmere a.k.a. Baltimore, D.C., N'apolis a.k.a Annapolis area). I then moved to St. Petersburg Fl after my wife passed away in 1987. I'm still in St. Pete enjoying the Winters and dodging hurricanes in the Summers. You are right, I've been lucky on both counts. Some of my old Army buddies retired here, so finding work and getting a "new life" was relatively easy. Thank heavens for real friends, eh?

Earlydiesels hit a nostalgic "bone" when he mentioned the Frisco black and yellow. There is a beautiful 4500 on display at Mohawk Park in Tulsa along with a 15 inch guage St. Loius & San Fransisco streamliner (EMD E-7) for the kiddies...like me. The outdoor miniature sports the St.L. & S.F. red and silver (grey-gray?) livery of yore. Frisco went on the cheap when they painted their heavyweights effecting a fluted sides appearance instead of the stainless "McCoy...sneaky, eh? In 1957, I rode the Olkahoman from Tulsa to St. Louis and thence Pennsy to Manhattan, N.Y.C. Yes, that was to be my only ride to Penn Station before its demolition. If only I would have known! I guess I was lucky to have seen it at all...what a gargantuan terminal!

For the R.D.C. (D.M.U. I didn't forgetcha Nick) gang, the Athearn (all metal) kit was the second purchase for my roster back in the 1960's. I had a problem with a sprung shell frame but jerry rigged my way out it, whew! That R.D.C.-1 cost me over $20 BUCKS! Shall we all "eat our hearts out?" Tom, if you peek in, I know you will appreciate the gravity of this statement. Folks, I just want to tell you what a pleasure this "Our" Place thread is bringing "your's truly." I've never met a more "user friendly" Pub place on the Net. Its what it ain't that I like the best, no pressure, no critics, no politicians, just fresh goodies, fresh soda (not flat), fresh dialogue from a not so fresh clientele...what more do we need, eh? Okay, I need to put a "fresh" dressing on me boo boo, so I'll bid everyone adieu for the present. Happy rials, Ted
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 5, 2005 2:11 PM
Hello all. Nick, what is the redhaired barmaid's name? I am familiar with the Thomas series (been engineer on Thomas trains 3 years running) but can't recall any coaches but Annie and Clarabell.
Since this is Cinco de Mayo, I'll take a large margarita on the rocks. Sometimes I just like to look at steam era pictures to see what railroads used to be like and compare them to today. Everything looks alike and, unlike the 70s, generally it's hard to tell what used to be. When I was a kid then, often foundations,tracks, etc., would give away towers, roundhouses, additional mains,but now even those are gone.
Passenger trains? Tourist trips and very distant memories for me but I really enjoy the experiences all our regulars at Our Place. When Tom returns, I am sure he will have more. Earlier this year, I became really interested in passenger service uniforms and started a thread about that---got some good information. I had no idea what a variety there was in styles and colors.
  • Member since
    May 2014
  • 3,727 posts
Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, May 5, 2005 12:06 AM
Hi all Tom have a safe and healthy trip. Make sure you ahve all the batterioes film/chips etc that you need for your optical equipment we are all expecting some excellent shots to decorate the backroom with. As far as the FA1 goes it's in sergeant stripes.Paint job would have first showed up in the early to mid sixties on the FA1's so will work with the black/white trainsets. I've seen likely have some pictures of CN's 5axle FM C-liners pulling passenger strings in that paint job as well. LL Canada has run the C-liners in the Zebra stripes as well. I'd go to LL's website and there's a link for Life like Canada. they sell on line but drastically more expensive than a hobby shop so look for them in the Nova shops when you get there. I have an FA1 which wouldn't hurt my feelings to part with so you can let me know about that if you have no luck on your trip. well coffee to go. Later gentlemen. Rob
  • Member since
    May 2014
  • 3,727 posts
Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 11:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by earlydiesels

QUOTE: Trolleyboy, have you seen Greg Mcdonnell's article about the Montana Rail Link in the latest trains? I like the way he writes about diesels. I do not remember steam in active service so my early memories are of Frisco black and yellow.

Hi I have not read this article.Rairly do i purchase trains magazine.He has a nice easy read style.Excellent photo's and just enough info to let you know whats going on but he doesn't try to impress you with text book descriptions.Even in real life he's a good guy just to talk to and chat about trains over coffee with. He's good people.I mentioned his book heartland before you would find it interesting all US midwest railroads Rock, CNW you name it. His book U-boats is also a good read,heck I don't think he's done a bad train book yet,his latest on CPR is to die for. Rob
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • 901 posts
Posted by nickinwestwales on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:32 PM
A last thought for the day; You know you`re getting old when it takes you all night to do what you used to spend all night doing...................sleep well
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • 901 posts
Posted by nickinwestwales on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:15 PM
Hey Tom,"management" retired early after the gym session so here we are,back to tell a tale. This may take a while,so I`d best have a couple of Molsons,Landlords choice from the menu,a wee nip for yourself to help you sleep,and a little something for the lovely Ruth on her first night..( Brief digression, names for "the ladies"--my vote,as our host is a dyed-in-the-wool passenger man,how about the coaches on the "Skarloey Railway" in the "Thomas" books.............Ruth,Ann,Lucy,Jemima---------there was also Beatrix,the luggage van,but she went to the bad and now entertains gentlemen behind "Als Store" near the Can/Am depot on high days and holidays...) Right,back to the point,where was I? ah,yes ***, Hi,enjoying meeting you,dont sweat the gin situation,I live in the U.K. where it`s readily available,will keep Tom fully supplied.....Just listen out for the Dodge comin` down Copperhead Road [swg] Glad you enjoyed your trip to the`old country`,nice to know we can still impress!!...In fairness,your trip was on "Brunels Billiard Table"--the flattest,straightest and most level main line in the country {and designed to be so-even in the early 1800`s and working pretty much from first principles on every aspect of design and construction} Are you sure the mine remains you saw in cornwall were from coal and not tin mining ? Pithead gear (where still extant) looks fairly similar ,and a number of them used narrow gauge tramways to shift the ore.. Now then,how did you get to Paddington ?....Cause that Heathrow Express Shuttle is some space age bit of kit!!!.....Not tried it?-go for it next time O.K,back again,R.D.C`s--Well,over here we call `em D.M.U`s,as I`m sure you all know. Well back in the day( about `62 )Tri-Ang Models introduced a 2-car Metro-Cammell D.M.U,one of a number of prototypes that were undergoing long-term evaluation ( I.E. paid for,no guarantee,no comeback) trials on different B.R. regions. It was an immediate best seller and has been in and out of the Tri-Ang and Hornby lists ever since,at one time,almost evey Brit. branch terminus layout had one. Well I caught up with them on what is now ScotRail when,stumbling red-eyed from an overnight bus from London to Edinburgh,on my way to college, I descended the thousand or so steps into Waverley stations cavernous interior. and found the appropriate train. Sat as far from other passengers as possible(all night travelling has never suited me ) at the front of the train,shaken awake by pointwork just in time to cross the Forth bridge with the sun coming up out of the sea,and to realise that these babys were built with glass panels all round so you get a drivers-eye-view from the front seats. This would be enough of a delight already but believe it or not,when I first moved out here to West Wales,the same units had been cascaded down to the Swansea-Milford & Pembroke dock runs so ,for a few years,I was able to enjoy the rare pleasure of riding the same train to different homes in different countries in different decades with different partners,......anyway,the Swansea-Milford run is worth a trip,just for the journey itself-part of it is on a shelf carved out of the cliff face and large parts of it follow the coastline(...Like about 3 feet away from the water ) O.K,Enough already!!, another for me please Ruth,and one for yourself--better send one out back to chef,looks like a quiet one for him. sleep well all,regards,nick
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA
  • 7,214 posts
Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:02 PM
Evening all ...... this is zero hour ...... time to get crackin' with the suitcases. Juneau (Siberian Husky) has been dropped off at the kennel ... howled like mad in the car, once we arrived, he darned near pulled my arm out of joint trying to get into the place! Guess he likes "camp." [:D]

Hey Chris wondered where you'd been ... have one on me .... and hope all's well. Yes, I'll be in Montreal - tomorrow - Monday and Thursday. But just to catch trains - what else? Somewhere on these posts, I've described my rather busy itinerary which equates to two complete round trips between Montreal and Halifax, plus a "side trip" to Ottawa. One day we shall make some time to visit ....... [tup] [;)]

Nick Those groundrules are GREAT .... I'll have to make 'em "official" and have 'em posted in the back room, where the pool tables are ....... Thanx for your willingness to help the ladies ......... [tup] [;)]

passengerfan Glad that photo brought back a happy memory or three .... that Crown Royal is comin' right up. [tup] [;)]

*** Glad you made it back ... our sandwich menu includes heros/hoagies/subs and grinders. That's it .... the bread is the freshest in town as are the lunchmeats. So, hope you find something to flick your switch.

Appreciate your continuing contributions .... just don't have time tonight to comment ...... [tup] [;)]
-----------------------

Appreciate the bon voyage wishes ...... means a lot. [tup] [tup] [tup]

See y'all in a week or so ...... keep those temporary barkeeps "hoppin' " - never know what may pop out ....... [;)] [}:)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place


Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Central Valley California
  • 2,841 posts
Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 7:38 PM
Tom
Have a wonderful trip your picture of Revelstoke Park brings back fond memories, For my wife and I honeymooned in the Drawing Room of the same car in February 1968 from Vancouver to Toronto even though we had to change cars in Sudbury as Revelstoke Park ran Vancouver to Montreal. We traveled on Banff Park between Sudbury and Toronto. Have a wonderful trip and I'll do my part to keep the thread going til you return. In the meantime I'll have a double Crown Royal with water back for the road and whatever you're having as well. Put it on my tab hope my credits good.
  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Montreal
  • 241 posts
Posted by CFournier on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 3:16 PM
Hello to you all.
I was down and out with the flu for 4 days. TKO. My 6 year old son had big time fever and guess who got it ...Well I'm better now and would like something strong against microbes, how about a shot of old Maker's Mark? Bon voyage Tom. Call me if you come to Montreal .
Chris
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • 901 posts
Posted by nickinwestwales on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 2:29 PM
Hey Tom-All packed and ready,remember to pack an extra chip/film for the cam,you know you`re gonna need it!!![:D]!!! I`ll take a cold one whilst I`m here please,one for yourself and a round for the ladies to welcome them aboard. Delighted to help the ladies out if there`s a rush.... just thought I`d remind myself of the house rules.....1:all emotional baggage to be checked at the door 2:no ladies of regotiable affection before midnight 3:no w**ing in the spittoons at any time 4:the Ladies are always right,regardless of circumstance5:food available until chef finds the bottle 6;lightly oil & polish barmaids between shifts.....Gotta run She`s back from the gym,safe journey friend,if I miss you before "zero hour" regards,Nick
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 1:56 PM
Good moning y'all. (I live in Texas now). I'll have another slug of black coffee. OOPS it is afternoon so I will saunter to the other side of the room. Please give me a large glass of your best cabernet and a toasted panara sandwich. In a few hours I will switch over to the good stuff (gin over ice, no vermuth please, shaken, not stirred)

Back to the Big One story. My father was born in 1900, which made him too young for WW1 and too old for WW2. He was a machinist at Weirton Steel and the war machine was eating lots of steel then. He also was a air raid marshall to protect the vital steel mill. Fortunately the war was kept away from our shores except for a light shelling of a California oil field by a Japenese sub.

I do have a copy of the "High and Dry" that Coalminer3 mentioned. It has a picture, although not a pretty one, of the Ohio river bridge that I walked towards the end of the book. Nothing looks real pretty in the winter. The P&WV did have a few wrecks. We had a few photos of engines lying on their side in a cut after it decided to go off on its own. Not too successful. Unfortunately when I was closing out my parents home the photos could not be located.

I had the pleasure of riding the last passenger train through Follansbee on the Pennsy. Our high school was in the state football championship game to be played at Parkersburg. The booster club chartered a 30 coach train from the Pennsy to haul the team, fans, band, and "visiting firemen" to the game. The equipment was not quite up to the standards of their Congressional Limiter or Broadway Limited. PRR powered and ran the train to Wheeling where the B&O put on their power and ran to Parkersburg. I noticed that there was considerably more sway on the B&O tracks than PRR. Lack of maintenance? We were the underdogs against Barboursville, which is near the capital in Charleston. We arrived at the Ann Street station that was on an enbankment overlooking the station. When the fans from Barboursville, who were already in the stadium, looked up and saw a 30 car train there was a deathly silence in the stadium. I guess this intimidated Barboursville as we won 34-28. Good day!

Time to refill the glass with some more red bubbly.

Ah! That tastes good. I am not under the alfluence of Incohol as some teeple pink I am. The sandwich was great and I am about to dive into the cheese tray. (BURP!)

When I get under the alfluence I tend to get talky. Now what else can I bore you with?

I served for seven years on the Board of Directors of our transit agency, Dallas Area Rapit Transit (DART), and have quite a few train stories to tell. It is getting late and this is bound to put you to sleep.

I would go to the Commuter Rail Conference of American Passenger Transit Association (APTA) each year. The host city would schedule a train excursion in conjunction with the convention. I have stories of trips in Philadelphia, Toronto, Baltimore, New York City, Chicago, and Seattle. I will save these for another day and only terll you about my persuit of bears and pirates.

One of my freebees was a pass to ride first class on any First Great Western train in the UK. First Transit of Aberdeen Scotland contracted for our surburban bus service and they gave me a pass. I had a free day in London last year and decided to go hunting for bears and pirates. My first stop was at Paddington station to look for Paddington Bear who was left on a station bench (A A Milne's classic children's book). Not finding any bears I took the First Great Western train to Penzance to look for pirates (Gilbert and Sullivan's operetta "Pirates of Penzance"). Again a failure in my quest, however the ride was well worth it. The line is double tracked except for the bridge over the river in Plymouth. Like Plymouth as this is where our Pilgrams wintered before the sailed to the new world. They stayed in the Plymouth Gin distillery which sort of debunks the story about beiong pure. (Plymouth Gin is my favorite) Tom - Please stock this brand as it is seldom found in bars in the USA. Through Cornwall we passed several pits (coal mines) with the hoisting towers. Reminded me of good old West Virginia. The interesting part was that west of Plymouth the line was manually signalled. Each town had an "armstrong" tower that controlled the signals and turnouts. You could see the levers through the windows of the towers. Wanted to visit one, however the Brits do not let their trains dewll for more than 1-2 minutes in a station. Quite an all day trip. The train departed Paddington at 8:13 AM and arrived back at 9:58 PM. Took a different route back so saw additional scenery.

Well, the glass is empty again and I am driving. If I have another I will be a candidate to get a DUI ticket. Oh, what the H - - -! Pour another and I will sleep on the bench in the corner.

***
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA
  • 7,214 posts
Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 1:37 PM
passengerfan Crown Royal, coming up .... good choice and a fine, fine Canadian rye whiskey ......

All this talk about those great passenger trains of yesterday is just whetting my huge appetite for our train travels commencing on the 'morrow. [tup]


This shot was taken a couple of years ago in Moncton, NB on the eastbound "Ocean" en route Halifax, NS. The Park Car is the Revelstoke Park and on this trip, we had our double bedroom booked in it ...... great way to go. Starting tomorrow - same itinerary and same luck with getting the bedroom in the Park car ..... [yeah]

As you describe the CN's consist, I could envision those cars speeding along through the Prairies and up into the highlands of the Canadian Rockies. Must have been a great rail experience ..... no doubt.

Seems kind of self defeating to be putting heavyweights on the line with cars of lighter weight - but the inventories had to be used - and used again. As stated earlier, once inside - who cared(es)?

Gotta run ...... [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Properietor of "Our" Place
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Central Valley California
  • 2,841 posts
Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 12:58 PM
I'll have another Crown Royal if you please!
Just found some more information on the Dominion I thought I would share. During peak travel periods during summers the Dominions ran in All sleeping car and all coach sections. The all sleeeping car section usually operated with A Budd Baggage Crew Dormitory followed by five or six heavyweight sleeping cars in the solid maroon, a heavyweight a Budd Dining car, one Budd Manor Sleeper, one Budd Chateau Sleeper and one Budd Park Dome sleeper Lounge Observation. The coach section ran with a heavyweight Baggage Car a heavyweight Tourist sleeper for the crew one heavyweight Tourist sleeper for passengers and three maroon streamlined homebuilt coaches a Budd Skyline Dome , heavyweight dining car three additional streamlined coaches and a heavyweight Lounge Observation. Many of the Pullman heavyweight cars had been modernized with large Thermopane windows fully a/c equipped and roller bearing equipped trucks. They stopped running separate through Dominion trains when the Candaian finally entered service the Dominion operated with Budd cars as they were delivered before the Candian was inaugurated. Once the Canadian entered service the sections of the Dominion were combined and separated at Sudbury like the Canadain except during the summer the Dominion westbound ran as two sections as described above the Montreal and Toronto sleeping cars were combined and separated at Sudbury westbound and the coaches from Montreal and Toronto were combined and separated at Subury. Between Sudbury and Montreal and Subury and Toronto the Dominion trains ran with coaches and sleepers.
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA
  • 7,214 posts
Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 10:45 AM
Mornin' earlydiesels - your order is ready, right over there on the table next to the coffee pot. Enjoy!

One day, I'm going to have an RDC and a Caboose in my back yard ... THEN this "blinkety-blank" subdivision will have something to 'crow' about, for sure!

My father didn't talk about his experiences at all around me. I know that he was involved with two ships being hit by U-Boat torpedo's and shortly after the war, they struck a mine up in the North Sea. Quite a fortunate guy, I'd say ...... no wonder he didn't want to talk about. Many had it far, far worse - and of course, the real hero's (to my way of thinking) are those who never returned. Amazing how the world's attitudes have changed over the eyars - simply amazing. BUT - we're not into polltics around here - so that's enough of that ....... (I've read all three Brokaw's "Greatest" books ......)

Trains in the 40's and 50's were wonderful - and are wonderful memories. I always think back to those times and each visit to downtown St. Louis makes me wonder what it must have been like at Union Station during those days ---- same for Kansas City when I take my solo round trips aboard Amtrak out that way. In 1953, I had the good fortune to be aboard a train that pulled into each Union Station (St. Louis/Kansas City) in the Show Me State ... was 15 at the time and really didn't quite "get it" as I do today. Have some black 'n whites from my Kodak Brownie Hawkeye camera though .......

RDC's? Oh man - I could talk up a storm about those, however, time's getting short -- gotta get moving.

The gals start work in the AM - be kind!

See ya!

Tom (Siberianmo)
Properietor of "Our" Place
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 10:16 AM
Good morning all. Hello to the new help. I'll take a order of biscuits and gravy with black coffee for now. All the chatter about RDCs. Late last year the wife and I joined another rail preservation group.(Our Third). Anyway, this group has a old depot, lots of signals on display, some equipment, but most interesting to the conversation, they run occasional trips over the host freight rairoad. The railroad owns 3 ex Boston MBTA RDCs. They are still painted and lettered that way and if memory serves, have B&M on the letterboard. All but one diesel has been removed for power and the rr has to provide a loco for propulsion. This is my only experience with these cars but it seems to me they ride rougher than the heavyweight equipment I'm used to.
Another black coffee, please. My dad served in WW2 in the army and would'nt talk much about his experiences. I got more out of mom about war on the home front. Too bad that the U.S. can't pull together as one as we did back then. Its hard for me to imagine the traffic on the rails during that time. Where I live, long strings of oil tankers came thru often from the Gulf to St Louis pulled by any large power the Frisco had. 1500s and 4500s were popular for this duty. Sometimes I wish I could have a time machine to see the railroads before everything on them became so generic and unpersonal. Growing up with parents of Brokaw's Greatest Generation I look at the condition this town is in now compared to then and I wonder if back then was'nt actually better.
Whoa. I'm off on a tangent. I just am envious some of our regulars were able to experience regular passenger service and remember when railroads were a primary, visable presence in everyday life. I believe I'll wonder over to the jukebox and find some tunes.
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA
  • 7,214 posts
Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:11 AM
Morning all,

Good to see ya this fine day ...... check out the light breakfast menu, right over there .....

And now for the news of the day. Remember those "lovelies" who were in yesterday afternoon and evening? Well, they've been interviewing for my "stand in" bartenders. Hired the red head, one blonde, a brunette, and of course a raven haired gal. So, that's four - count 'em - four, who will begin serving up the drinks on Thursday (tomorrow) until my return.
Names? It's cyber stuff, so whatever flicks your switch my boys, they'll answer the call ....

I'm going to be in and out this fine day, but I'll try to keep up best I can .... probably no SUMMARY until my return .....
-------------------------------------------------
Ted Somewhere on these pages (or for sure over on "Canadian Passenger Railroads - Let's Talk!") you'll find lots of my posts regarding RDC's ...... love 'em.

Used to commute regularly between Melrose, MA and downtown Boston aboard B&M's RDC's ...... lived within walking and sight distance of the station. Loved it.

Stand in's? They haven't started yet! Oh - but you must have seen one or two behind the bar ...... just getting "familiar" with the setup ......

We've got all kinds of pain killers - whatillyahave? It's on me.
-------------------------------------
passengerfan Crown Royal seems to be flowing freeling 'round here ...... enjoy.

Whenever I see photo's of those streamlliners with heavyweights situated within the consists, the word "***ized" comes up. I understand the practicality, and one doesn't see the visual from the INSIDE - just doesn't look right.
----------------------------------------------------

See y'all later ...... [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Properietor of "Our" Place
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Central Valley California
  • 2,841 posts
Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 7:33 AM
I apoligise for not ordering or at least saying G'Day before I start my ramblings. In future I'll remember my manners and by the way make that Crown Royal with a water back.
Just wanted to mention that the Dominion did carry two 12-1 heavyweights during the period 1955 to 1960 anyway.
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 5:43 AM
By golly these stand-in bar tenders are prety darn sharp. Hey Tom, they know all about Crown Royal too. Had a rough day at Bay Pines (VMAC-Madera Beach, Fl) yesterday [Tuesday]. They took another biopsy on the right Index finger. Don't want to bore you with the "proceedures." Suffice to say, the appointment was for 1:30 p.m. and I cleared the last "Banjo" at 4:00 p.m. Between the "local" and the "goof pills;" I sure wi***here was a R.D.C. handy instead of me playing "bumper cars" all the way home via Post #104 [Am. Legion).

My first " rail bus" (R.D.C.) adventure was between Beverly, Mass and Boston's North Station for private lessons with John Coffey (rest his Soul). It was "love at first fright"...not Coffey...the R.D.C! B.M. operated singles or M.U. depending on volume. I have been looking for any excuse to "hang my hat" on any R.D.C. thereafter. The best one was between Baltimore and D.C. (shuttle service) when the Motorman let me "do the air chime" from Laurel, Md 'til D.C. yards. There were others but those ordeals are for another time.

Minnie the Moocher (my kitty cat) is ragging me for a can of Tuna and the "pain killer" is doing a slow fade-out on me finger. So, I'll "fade-out" for now wishing one and all Happy (T)rails to You, Ted
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA
  • 7,214 posts
Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 9:03 PM
SUMMARY OF POSTS

Evening guys ....... you know it's been a long day when its after 8:30 PM CDST and I haven't gotten the SUMMARY out .... same thing last night. These things are time consumers for sure. Hope they are being used ..... a little feedback would help. Thoughts? (This is just a teaser to see who reads this stuff?!)[}:)]

Well let's get to it ........

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 02 May 2005, 21:42:20
I guess i am lucky as I have ridden the Budd Canadian cars in three different liveries the original Maroon with Beaver Crests, The CP Rail Red and the Via colors.

As much as I like them I have to give some credit to the GN for the magnificent Empire Builder that I rode in five color schemes the original Orange and Pullman Green with Gold, the second Orange and Pullman Green without the gold separation stripes, Big Sky Blue BN Green and Amtrak.

The NP North Coast Limited I rode in three paint schemes the original the Loewy paint scheme and BN Green in both cases of the BN Green on the Empire Builder and North Coast Limited neither consisyt was completely repainted. In fact I don't know if a complete train set of either train was fully painted in Cascade Green.

Rode the CN in the old green scheme, Green & Black scheme, and the Black and white scheme and rode both the original PG&E and after it became BC Rail.

All of this talk about the Canadian but the other CPR Transcontinental never receives any mention so will do that now. The Dominion was diesel powered the train consist was a mixture of the new Budd cars and many older heavyweights and some lightweights of older vintage. Although it ran on a slower schedule than the Candaian it was first class in every way.

Both types of Budd Sleepers Manor and Chateau as well as Park cars were carried. The dining car was a Budd and the Baggage Crew Dormitory was a Budd. The Skyline Dome was Budd and all other cars were heavyweights in the Maroon scheme with Gold leaf lettering. In summers the Dominion always ran in two sections one Toronto-Vancouver the other Montreal - Vancouver.

The Dominion was an excellent train and very little has been written about it. Many people used to mistake the Dominion for the Canadian thinking it was just carrying extra older cars. From what I have learned it never carried the U series Tourist sleepers in stainless steel finish like the Canadian but it did carry Tourist sleepers.

The coaches were postwar CP shop built streamlined cars and it carried more coaches than the Canadian. I don't know that it carried any 12-1 heavyweights in its consist bust suspect it did as they were still quite popular. There was more variety of sleeping accomodation then on the Canadian and im quite sure the summer consists carried far more passengers than the Canadian.

If anyone else has anything to add about the Dominion I would love to see it in the forum.

Hello passemgerfan Now you know you just can't park yourself in here and begin your input without so much as a "howdy" or "I'll have a ......." This is, afterall, a Bar 'n Grill! Having said that ....... welcome back! [tup] [;)]

Perhaps there have been so few comments about the Dominion because we simply don't have the customers with that experience ...... Never did read much about it over on my other topic, "Canadian Passenger Railroads - Let's Talk!" either. So all that means is time has a way of passing us by - all of us, along with "our" trains .......

As always, appreciate your input ..... makes for great reading. I just hope the customers are taking in everything that "Our" Place has to offer. There are times when I wonder ......

Stick around!

Tom [tup]

QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 03 May 2005, 06:46:03
Mornin' Gents, I did "burn some midnight oil," caught up with most of the Posts and of course, the "Summaries." Yeah, lots of good information from folks who "have been there." That sure means a lot now, 'cause the days of "Pullman Gypsies" is thinning out fast.

My earliest claim to riding "classic Varnish" is pretty lack luster as most of the "name" trains in the East, e.g. Broadway Limited, Capitol Limited, Crescent, et al., had been reduced to "in name only" status by the 1960's. There were still some "hold-outs" in the West as per the Super Cheif (extra fares), plus the El Capitan, Kansas City Cheif, Empire Builder, that maintained full services.

I really should count my blessings to have caught the last gasp of that era and I'll never forget the meaning of "first class." Did have some fun on Mexican, Irish and Panamanian rails and hope to do many more now that I'm fully retired. I trust you will forgive the anemic input from my bar stool. Maybe I'll be able to toss in a rag or a bone from time to time as "Our" Place clears the yard and gets the "Hi Ball"

Speaking of which, a Crown Royal and soda would hit the spot right about now. It is early but I've been "at it" since 4:00 a.m. and have a long way to go yet.

Gotta "hit the bricks" too soon, so its "all aboard" for me 'til next time. Whoever is
"subing" for Tom; please keep a tight cap on the soda bottle.

Untill then, [bTed

Back again! Good to have you aboard ..... Crown Royal? You bethca .... keep the velvet bag ...... great for marble collections!

Man, you hit it on the head with your comments regarding those "classic Varnish" cars along with being blessed to at least having had the chance to experience some of that great era. Me too. Of course, I didn't know then just how valuable to me those experiences would become. Those summer trips from NYC to Baltimore on the Pennsy or B&O as a youngster. The "guy" coming through the coaches with the food and beverage trays (those orange juice containers must have been the protoype for the urine sample containers used by hospitals! [}:)]) Yeah - memories of the New Haven between NYC
and New London, CT over a six month period on weekends. The NYC up to Albany just for kicks, and so much more. No doubt, I was really lucky to have seen and experienced some of it. Even rode one of the Chief's (don't know which one) from LA to NYC via Chicago back in the late '40's. My father had taken me to Long Beach from Baltimore on "his" freighter ...... he put me aboard the train for trip back to NYC. Not bad for a kid of 8 or 9 ...... Oh there's more ..........

Your input is very much appreciated and we're glad to have you as a "regular." [tup]

Tom

QUOTE: wrwatkinsPosted: 03 May 2005, 11:12:21
Good morning Tom. The black coffee was great. Thanks for brewing up a pot. Lets see-what yarn can I spin today. How about WWII stories.

During the big one we lived in the northern panhandle of WV. One of my uncles got on =the wrong end of one of Adolph's grenades in Italy and lost an arm and leg. He spent the winter of 44-45 recovering in Atlantic City where the government converted several of the hotels into hospitals. That winter we made 5 trips to Atlantic City to see Uncle Alf. Since gasoline was rationed train was the only way to go. We would go the the Pennsylvania station either in Steubenville Ohio or Wellsburg WV to catch a train east. With luck we would get a train direct into Philadelphia then transfer to the Pennsy partially owned Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore line to Atlantic City. Getting a "sleeper"
was almost impossible. Just getting a pillow was a miracle. My mother tells the tale of me waking up and asking "What happened to the whistle?" We were in GG1 territory!

Pennsylvania, like all railroads were struggling to get equipment to meet the demand. In one coach you could read under a couple coats of paint instructions for lighting the kerosene lamps. Fortunately the train had been electrified.

I remember one trip returning home. As the train started to cross the Ohio River bridge between Weirton and Steubenville my father got us into the vestibule as the Steubenville station was 2 miles down the line. We met the conductor in the vestibule who enquired why we were there. My father said we were getting off in Steubenville. The conductor said we were in section one, which did not stop in Steubenville. If we wanted off we should be in the third section. The next stop for section one was Zanesville, about 50 miles too far west. My father reached up and grabbed the emergency brake rope and said when he sat the Steubenville station sign he would pull this and we would get off one block later. The conductor said don't do that and he would stop the train. The train slowed
to a crawl, we stepped off, and the conductor gave the highball to the engineer.

The coal was thrown to the engine and the train left in a hurry. Less than 5 minutes later the second section came through at full speed. I only hope that the first section got out of the way.

PS at this time I was 5 years old.

Time for another slug of coffee.

***

Hello *** - seems like you enjoy "Our" Place ... good seeing you again. Coffee - right over there and it's always fresh .......

WWII stories are near and dear to my aging heart. My Dad was a Merchant Marine "mate" - 3rd - 2nd - 1st duirng those four years that I didn't see him at all. Of course, I was just a squirt and didn't quite get the gravity of it all - but I remember things like tape on the upper portion of automobile headlights - gas ration sickers in the corner of the windshield - food tokens needed at the stores for certain goods - "Victory Gardens" - saving the foil from chewing gum and cigarette packages - and Mom working at night in a munitions plant. Yeah, I remember. I also recall being at Atlantic City with my Grandpa and Mom watching the smoke far offshore no doubt from another "Merchie" going down from a U-Boat attack.

Trains, WWII, great music (still love it to this day) and a nation that was resolved to get the job done - as one. Yeah, I remember.

Appreciate the train stories too ..... [tup]

Tom

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 May 2005, 11:55:09
G'day All ..... I'm here, behind the bar, but oh so busy this fine day ........

Just keep things moving along and I'll be a good listener ....

BY THE WAY, HOW COME NO ONE as in NO ONE has even offered to keep this place functioning in my absence? C'mon -- it's not like real work for crying out loud! Just stop in once a day, make a post or two ..... and that's it.

PLEASE respond to this ...... I'd feel a lot better knowing that "Our" Place isn't going to go the way of so many other topics .... at least, not yet!

I'll try to get one more SUMMARY pieced together before I go ........

Get back to y'all later!

Tom


QUOTE: ftwNSengineer Posted: 03 May 2005, 2:20:44
sure i dont mind hanging out here once in a while.It gives me a little break when in trying to do prototype research


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 May 2005, 15:06:52
[#welcome] aboard ftwNSengineer What a way to start out with "Our" Place ... first visit and all set to pitch in when asked ...... that's really something - a first on these forums for me. Thanx! [tup] [tup] [tup]

I hope you take a few minutes to browse through the pages before this one ... especially those SUMMARIES I've posted ... that will help you catch up and become a "regular" in no time.

Oh yeah - FIRST DRINK IS ON THE HOUSE - 2nd one too, for being so willing to help out. [tup]

Now, the idea of "Our" Place is to discuss "classic" trains - that's the gist. We may not always stay on topic, but somewhere in the conversations we do try to at least relate to what this is all about. Of course, being a Bar 'n Grill, you have to recognize that there will be times when there are "other" things going on.

Glad to have you as a "customer" and we're looking forward to what you have to share with us. [tup]

Whatillyahave?

Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 03 May 2005, 14:39:25
Afternoon all. Tom I'd love to help for some of your absence but I'm going away for a couple o days the end of the week as well.I will certainly check in while I'm home however.

Passing trains is a great book two other mcdonell titles you might like are heartland and signatures in steal. Greg still lives in Kitchener ontario and comes up to the museum fairly regularly not a member but he's always willing to sign books when he's around,seeing as how our gift shop sells many a copy of his books.

For those interested in Canada's other continental CNR I recomend Across the Canadian shield by Alan Lill and Robert Wanner.It was published in 1998 by CN Lines SpecialmIntrest Group isbn# 0-9684235-0-7 or right the SIG group at CN Lines Special Intrest group 101 Elm Park Road Winnipeg Manitoba Canada R2M 0W3 It covers steam and diesel in the fifties frieght and passenger trains.It discusses the Super Continental and all the myriad of minor trains as well. It's hardcover and has excellant photo's.Same size format as passing trains but more text and maps.Balck and White and Colour photo's as well.

Tom I may be able to track down a CN FA1 LL P2K from Lifelike canada if you are interested it's not an FP7 but it's still a mighty fine loco(zebra stripe paint job)

Hi Ted glad you made it here as well. What are you doing in Florida I thought you were in the mid west?

thanks for popping by next time your in i'll buy. Later all Rob
Howdy Rob Can't keep you out of "Our" Place, huh? Good seeing you again .... always welcome - enjoy your company (and patronage). So, whatillitbe?

Appreciate your willingness to help out 'round here. Any contribution that keeps "Our" Place up and running is what this request is all about ...... [tup] [tup] [tup]

If you can find a link to that CN FA1 you mentioned, I'd like to see it. As long as it will "fit" with the consist of CN's black/white smoothsides - that's the objective. Appreciate your help on this too. [tup]

Oh yeah - the book about the Continental - looks like the bride will be buying that for me - also!

Tom

QUOTE: coalminer3 Posted: 03 May 2005, 15:59:12
Quick stop b4 we shut down for the day and head home.

I enjoyed the posts about the P&WV. Fascinating railroad with some most interesting locomotives. There is a book called the High and Dry which some of you may have seen. If you have not, it's worth hunting for. The photos are excellent; including some color shots. For those who want to read more about Gould, Maury Klein's book on him is about the best.

My mom used to tell abt riding the P Company in WW2 from Washington to Providence; this would have been abt. 1943; no sleepers, of course, but they did operate parlor cars as "overnight cars." She recalled that women traveling by themselves rode in a separate car. "One of the worst trips I ever made," she used to say, "but we all were in it together."

My father in law had a scenic tour of Europe from France to Germany via Luxembourg and a few other places. He said that when he came home, his ship landed in Jersey. He took the ferry to New York and then rode the NYC from New York City to Buffalo. He said he re,membered getting on the train at GCT and that's all he remembered until the conductor came and told him, "if your getting off at Buffalo, you'd better get off the train now."

Have a good evening.

wrok safe

Evening - nothing to drink? Nada, zilch, zero not even coffee? Must have been a tough day for you. Nevertheless, always good having you stop by and sharing your thoughts with those of us in "Our" Place.

You know, until you guys started coming in here and talked about the P&WV I had no clue about it or the history behind the RR. Thanx to *** Watkins we now all know ......

Trains were such a part of history in the U.S. and Canada that it boggles my aging mind to witness the changes we've experienced. Who would have ever thought .........? But, time waits for no man and change is inevitable.

On that note, have one on me! [tup]

Tom

QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 03 May 2005, 16:51:52
Hello everyone. Tom, I'll take another of those cold ones like last time. I will check in while you're gone to keep things happening.

***, do you happen to have or have access to, a Fall 2000 Classic Trains? It has an great article about the good old days in Wheeling, WV. Same mag has a small writeup about CP's Jubilees.

Trolleyboy, have you seen Greg Mcdonnell's article about the Montana Rail Link in the latest trains? I like the way he writes about diesels. I do not remember steam in active service so my early memories are of Frisco black and yellow.

Tom, you had better look out. If you have a red sitting between two blondes you better gird the battlements and flood the moat! Trouble could be brewing. I better stay away as I have a weakness for redhaired women.

I'll be gone Saturday and Sunday. We have bridge work to do at the rr and a charter for Saturday morning. I am running the train then I'll try my hand at bridge repairs but I'll help around Our Place until then.

I knew you'd come through - just knew it! Thanx earlydiesels .... [ltup] [tup] [tup]
The cold one is one me ....... enjoy!

Well my auburn haired beauty at home would have a helluva lot to say about this! But then again, it's only cyber stuff! Oh, but there was a time .......

Enjoy your weekend and I appreciate anything you can do to keep "Our" Place afloat.

Tom

nickinwestwales Posted: 03 May 2005, 19:03:00
Tom,hi-didnt realise thats all you needed for "cover"-happy to pick up a couple of shifts,thought there would be "computer techie" stuff involved,almost certainly beyond my competance,will look in tomorrow to see when you have me down for,

take it easy now, nick


nickinwestwales[/b] Posted: 03 May 2005, 19:09:21
Well that last post just caused a little purple star to appear in my box ,must be
accumulated Karma points or something.........hey ho..........nick


Thanx Nick you're another that I knew would be there when needed ..... really appreciate your help. Hey - absolutely nothing to it ... just make a post or two when youcan. That's what keeps "Our" Place up and running. Don't worry about SUMMARIES and the like ....... guys will just have to resort to reading the "raw" material! [tup] [;)]

That mug over there is for you ..... along with a refill. [tup] [;)]

Tom
===============================
Okay ....... looks like that's it for this evening. Drop some quarters from that jar over there in the juke box and let's get something going on 'round here.

See y'all in the morning ......

Tom (Siberianmo)
Properietor of "Our" Place
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • 901 posts
Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:09 PM
Well that last post just caused a little purple star to appear in my box ,must be accumulated Karma points or something.........hey ho..........nick
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • 901 posts
Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:03 PM
Tom,hi-didnt realise thats all you needed for "cover"-happy to pick up a couple of shifts,thought there would be "computer techie" stuff involved,almost certainly beyond my competance,will look in tomorrow to see when you have me down for,take it easy now,nick
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 4:51 PM
Hello everyone. Tom, I'll take another of those cold ones like last time. I will check in while you're gone to keep things happening.
***, do you happen to have or have access to, a Fall 2000 Classic Trains? It has an great article about the good old days in Wheeling, WV. Same mag has a small writeup about CP's Jubilees.
Trolleyboy, have you seen Greg Mcdonnell's article about the Montana Rail Link in the latest trains? I like the way he writes about diesels. I do not remember steam in active service so my early memories are of Frisco black and yellow.
Tom, you had better look out. If you have a red sitting between two blondes you better gird the battlements and flood the moat! Trouble could be brewing. I better stay away as I have a weakness for redhaired women.
I'll be gone Saturday and Sunday. We have bridge work to do at the rr and a charter for Saturday morning. I am running the train then I'll try my hand at bridge repairs but I'll help around Our Place until then.
  • Member since
    January 2001
  • From: WV
  • 1,251 posts
Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 3:59 PM
Quick stop b4 we shut down for the day and head home.

I enjoyed the posts about the P&WV. Fascinating railroad with some most interesting locomotives. There is a book called the High and Dry which some of you may have seen. If you have not, it's worth hunting for. The photos are excellent; including some color shots. For those who want to read more about Gould, Maury Klein's book on him is about the best.

My mom used to tell abt riding the P Company in WW2 from Washington to Providence; this would have been abt. 1943; no sleepers, of course, but they did operate parlor cars as "overnight cars." She recalled that women traveling by themselves rode in a separate car. "One of the worst trips I ever made," she used to say, "but we all were in it together."

My father in law had a scenic tour of Europe from France to Germany via Luxembourg and a few other places. He said that when he came home, his ship landed in Jersey. He took the ferry to New York and then rode the NYC from New York City to Buffalo. He said he re,membered getting on the train at GCT and that's all he remembered until the conductor came and told him, "if your getting off at Buffalo, you'd better get off the train now."

Have a good evening.

wrok safe
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA
  • 7,214 posts
Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 3:06 PM
QUOTE: ftwNSengineer Posted: Today, 12:20:44
sure i dont mind hanging out here once in a while.It gives me a little break when in trying to do prototype research

[#welcome] aboard ftwNSengineer What a way to start out with "Our" Place ... first visit and all set to pitch in when asked ...... that's really something - a first on these forums for me. Thanx! [tup] [tup] [tup]

I hope you take a few minutes to browse through the pages before this one ... especially those SUMMARIES I've posted ... that will help you catch up and become a "regular" in no time.

Oh yeah - FIRST DRINK IS ON THE HOUSE - 2nd one too, for being so willing to help out. [;)]

Now, the idea of "Our" Place is to discuss "classic" trains - that's the gist. We may not always stay on topic, but somewhere in the conversations we do try to at least relate to what this is all about. [}:)] Of course, being a Bar 'n Grill, you have to recognize that there will be times when there are "other" things going on.

Glad to have you as a "customer" and we're looking forward to what you have to share with us.

Whatillyahave?

Tom [tup] [;)]
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
  • Member since
    May 2014
  • 3,727 posts
Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 2:39 PM
Afternoon all. Tom I'd love to help for some of your absence but I'm going away for a couple o days the end of the week as well.I will certainly check in while I'm home however.Passing trains is a great book two other mcdonell titles you might like are heartland and signatures in steal. Greg still lives in Kitchener ontario and comes up to the museum fairly regularly not a member but he's always willing to sign books when he's around,seeing as how our gift shop sells many a copy of his books.For those interested in Canada's other continental CNR I recomend Across the Canadian shield by Alan Lill and Robert Wanner.It was published in 1998 by CN Lines SpecialmIntrest Group isbn# 0-9684235-0-7 or right the SIG group at CN Lines Special Intrest group 101 Elm Park Road Winnipeg Manitoba Canada R2M 0W3 It covers steam and diesel in the fifties frieght and passenger trains.It discusses the Super Continental and all the myriad of minor trains as well. It's hardcover and has excellant photo's.Same size format as passing trains but more text and maps.Balck and White and Colour photo's as well.Tom I may be able to track down a CN FA1 LL P2K from Lifelike canada if you are interested it's not an FP7 but it's still a mighty fine loco(zebra stripe paint job) Hi Ted glad you made it here as well. What are you doing in Florida I thought you were in the mid west?Anyway thanks for popping by next time your in i'll buy. Later all Rob

SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP

Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter