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[passengerfan]

Good evening all time for a Crown Royal with water back and another round for the house.
Tom, you mentioned backing into stations didn't seem very railroad like . Remember the old Rock Island Twin Star Rocket between Minneapolis and Houston. The train always backed into Des Moines Station southbound and backed out northbound. Last time I rode the train it backed in both northbound and southbound never thought to ask why they changed the procedure that had been in place for so long.
Well just thought I would toss that into the fire. I wonder how many other stations besides St. Louis where everything backed in their were. I don't remeber any others off hand but I'm sure their had to be others?

[siberianmo]

Evening Nick I just had a rather long reply to your three posts "disappear" on me ..... so, I think I'll call it a night and try again in the morning! [banghead][%-)][censored]

I'll never learn - shudda composed the response on my word processor then pasted it to the "reply to topic" screen. Oh well ....... can't fix stupid someone once said!

Where's that Worthingtons you were taking about?

Tom

[nickinwestwales]

Well,it`s been a quiet one so far boss,better set `em up again and I`ll wedge open the door and throw a few coins in the juke---just scrolled back and `found` your last update-didnt you have that pair of locos on the outbound trip ?-does the whole set lay over for a few days or did you chance upon them on a repeat visit ? Fine reportage by the way,photo`s also top drawer.....always been more of a `blue with the stripes` fan in my limited exposure but that silver finish suits those Park cars extraordinarily well-I may have to take a fresh look at my model power obs car..........right,here come the sounds,Take 5 performed by the Oscar Peterson Trio to start,smartly followed by Ball & Chain from Janis Joplin,then a whole load from the Campfire Tapes,by Michelle Shocked (which I would warmly recommend to all) and Misguided Angel by the Cowboy Junkies (`cos my Missis sings it perfectly and I love the high-capo open `G` guitar tuning that makes it sound like a mandolin ) to close.....well,it`s getting late at this end of the counter,give the boys a drink on me when they finally show up,sweet dreams to one and all,nick..P.S.-almost forgot,love the logo idea,will give it serious thought-The S+DJR armorial crest was in some very familiar blue & gold/yellow shades....................

[nickinwestwales]

Right,Her Majesty has retired for the night,the court & commons may go about their tasks. Same again for me pleaseTom and how about trying one of these bottled Worthingtons i ordered in. It`s an I.P.A,but with a much lighter flavour than draught (cask) I.P.A`s. When I worked bars in London it was quite often served with a half of keg,in a pint glass to take off the `twang` off of the keg. O.K, back to the tale,where was I.....ah yes. First off,confession time,until 5 years or so ago,I had had no exposure to modelling outside of U.K prototypes,have amassed a collection of 30+ steamers,handful of diesels,40+ pass cars & 100+ freight cars,all British OO,mostly by Tri-Ang and Triang/Hornby but with a liberal salting of most other makers of the time. To give them all something to do,I was building a representation of the much-mourned Bath to Bournemouth secondary main line (-the Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway, a route which in it`s latter days,played host to locos from all corners of the country, the original `prototype for anything` ) but was finding burnout a problem. Arrival of daughter in Nov 2000 put full stop to any modelling at all. Arrival of my sister on visit home from Toronto for Xmas provided unexpected Damascene moment---Bachman C.N. freight set-F9 (as I later discovered),couple of cars,caboose,track`n`pack..........................well,looks kinda silly with just 2 cars,hmmmmmmmmmmm.....................................2002-all British stock now in storage,large numbers of C.N,C.P plus many almost randomly purchased U.S. road cars now looking very silly on a layout where almost all the buildings have obvious Brit origins,signalled for left-hand running,.................2nd Damascene moment---Model Railroad Planning,2002-page61,Steam around Allandale. For those without a copy to hand,this describes the route from Toronto north,round the west side of Lake Simcoe and on eventually,to North Bay. Some research suggested that the juxtaposition of the key features on this route could be superimposed onto the existing layout-or enough to satisfy rule #1 at any rate. As an added bonus,sister has lived in Toronto,Newmarket & New Liskeard-all stations on the line. 2005-intermitant intervals spent in train shed during prev. 3 yrs starting to show-barely keeping pace with decay,little or no forward progress,however,daughter starting to approach age of reason requiring slightly less supervision,aquisition of computer allowing contact with the wider world,specifically,the guys on these forums and the O.N.R site,providing much needed `shot in the arm`---once again wheels are turning,track repairs continue apace( P.S.-I need to speak to you about a loan of the track gang),buildings and scenery are starting to re-appear,some with a heavy "Maple Leaf makeover" from their former lives. and guess what...? It`s fun again,just like when I was a kid with the first few Tri-Ang trains,you start off running anything with anything `cos you dont know any better,but you know youre gonna have lots of fun climbing the learning curve...................Right,I`m off to check on Boris and do the orders,Tom please feel free to use editorial blue pencil here,vol 3,if required,will describe the actual layout. Another bottle to take back with me please Tom,and same again yourself,later,nick

[nickinwestwales]

Hi Tom,just a quick "livener" whilst she`s at the gym,Pilsner for me tonight please,not forgetting an Alexanders for your good self.-Had in fact read back through post,but felt that my note left me without anything left to say,for once. So,where was I,ah yes-Nazareth-brilliant!!!! they and Alex Harvey & his band are for, my money, the finest Scotland has produced bar none! Have spoken at length with Boris (no easy task as you know) and after much confusion,a few tears and the bare minimum of violent co-ercion a compromise has been reached. He will appear for work in appropriate Chefs attire at all times,this is to be removed fortnightly for de-contamination purposes during which time he will remain in the shed. What he wears under his whites will remain his own perogative. He is NOT to approach the track gang for any more "traditional local welcomes" ( I`ll be speaking to you lot later about that-and the state of the washrooms on sunday *@#~$$$%£!!!!!!!) Finally,he is not to stir the draught beer with his finger "To mix in all the goodness"..right,Trains!!..I remembered...I`m working in HO,although G would be a lottery dream My only large scale models are two part built 3.5inch gauge live steamers which I inherited some years ago. I have no hopes of finishing them myself but there is a lad in the village who rebuilds the real thing for a living,negotiations are ongoing............Back to the HO-I have the run of a 16x10 ft summerhouse at the end of the garden with a round the walls stacked onto 4 levels with rather more double run through of scenes than I would like. The origins of the system and the rationale behind it may merit brief amplification - ah she`s back, back soon for part two..........later,nick

[siberianmo]

Now for some photo's to go along with my Part IV commentary: (Click to enlarge)

Two Park Cars - Revelstoke (right) - Evangeline (Left)


VIA Rail's Train #15, the "Ocean" at Halifax, Nova Scotia


Tom in Revelstoke Park car's dome


Mural at Truro, Nova Scotia


Farewell, Nova Scotia!


The six time zones of Canada


Tom & Claude at Moncton, New Brunswick


Crossing the St. Lawrence Seaway at Montreal, Quebec


Approaching Place Bonaventure, Montreal's Central Station


Train board at Montreal's Central Station


Enjoy!

See y'all later!

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place

[siberianmo]

Canadian Rail Journey, Part IV and final


Wednesday, May 11th, a glorious morning in Bedford (Halifax) Nova Scotia and the time has come to bid adieu to family and friends. Arriving at the VIA Rail station in Halifax, we checked in at the Easterly Class kiosk with plenty of time to spare for our 12:40 PM (ADST) departure for Montreal. The familiar sight of Train #15 and its all Budd consist once again rekindled that feeling of anticipation as we checked our luggage into Bedroom D of the Revelstoke Park car (observation dome). “Claude,” our attendant greeted us with his typically warm and friendly manner and we settled in to our seats up in the dome – front right.

Our train was made up of 13 cars and 2 F40PH locos (#6419 & 6418). The consist: one baggage, three coaches, one Skyline dome car – one dining car – six Chateau series bedroom cars and the Revelstoke Park observation dome car.

After snapping off a few more photos, we began our journey along the winding trackage from the station to the shoreline of Halifax Harbor and Bedford Basin. Before to long, the dome filled with travelers as we left Halifax behind and headed up to Truro. The countryside is a pretty sight, replete with large farms, lakes, and lots of new construction. Makes one wonder just where are all the people moving from?

Since there are no departures from Montreal (or Halifax) on Tuesdays, there was no passing train to view as we cleared Truro on the way to Amherst, the last station stop in Nova Scotia. {Back at the Halifax there was another Budd consist sitting across the platform that would become Train #15 on Thursday. This is the same train I came in on Monday late afternoon with the Evangeline Park observation dome car.)

A thought occurred to me as we wound our way through some really great looking scenery, that this may very well be the last time my wife and I travel the “Ocean” in Budd cars, if at all. As I’ve indicated in previous “reports,” VIA Rail will be shifting all the Budd equipment to western service by January 1st thereby making the “Ocean” an all Renaissance equipment train. Having experienced Renaissance in October of 2004, I doubt that I’ll be spending any of my retirement dollars for a repeat performance.

As always seems to be the case, we arrived in Moncton, New Brunswick rather quickly, although “Claude” told us we were running about 10 minutes late. With the elegant depots of Amherst and Sackville behind us, the idea that we were heading home settled in. Another 15 minute stop at New Brunswick so we stretched our legs, took some pix, and checked out the dining car menu. Oh no! Not again – same menu as every trip thus far since leaving home! With just two entrees on the menu, the selection does become rather limited when one has been traveling the route for 4 evenings since May 5th.

“Claude” told us that the Chaleur, VIA Rail’s train to Gaspe, Quebec, may have a schedule change to permit it to make the trip in daylight. Operating on a three day per week departure in each direction, the “Chaleur” is part of the “Ocean’s” makeup at Montreal, with the separation occurring at Matapedia. That same stop is where “Chaleur” meets the Montreal bound “Ocean” as well. For the first time in many, many trips, we did not have the “Chaleur” with us, nor did I on my “solo” round trips earlier in the week. Anyway, they say the scenery along the route to Gaspe is really something. Perhaps some day, unless someone decides to put Renaissance on the line for that as well.

Rogersville – Miramichi – Bathurst (with some snow still visible) – Petit Rocher – Jacquet River – Charlo and Campbellton (last stop in New Brunswick) all were stops where it appeared more passengers boarded than departed. The Campbellton stop also was our signal to call it a day …. Which we did.

Thursday morning found me sitting in the dome at about 5 AM (EDST) as the train backed into the station at Charny, Quebec. I guess I’ll never get used to this backing in, backing out business – and yes, it is railroading – but somewhere in my “socialization” regarding railroads, trains are supposed to pull in and pull out. As I thought about this quirk of mine, it occurred to me that even my model railroad “empire” requires backing in or out amongst the 8 consists of passenger cars accommodated at my Can-Am Union Station. Oh well ….. In a perfect world, it surely would be different!

With no full breakfast to look forward to in the dining car nor a continental breakfast in the Park car (both discontinued by VIA Rail as cost cutting measures (?)) the day began a bit differently than we were accustomed to. The Park car does offer juices, coffee, tea and hot chocolate along with apples and oranges for the Easterly Class folks. Fortunately, I still had some cookies left from my “solo” trip, so we survived on those until reaching Montreal’s Central Station at 8:05 AM (10 minutes early).

Once we reached Saint-Lambert, it was time to get our things together as the journey was about to come to an end. This was a bittersweet conclusion for us in that 15 years of travel along the Montreal-Halifax-Montreal round trip route may very well have ended.

Once inside the station, we had breakfast at our favorite “sidewalk café” table. Again, each breakfast of two eggs, sausages/bacon/ham with toast and coffee/tea cost $5 (Cdn) each. Had VIA Rail offered the full breakfast, it would have cost us $9 apiece and we would have gladly paid it if for no other reason than to have the ambiance of the dining car along with the views along the way. Alas, change is all about …….

So, that concludes my “report” of our rail experiences in Canada 2005.

The intention of these “reports” has been to share my experiences with those of you who appreciate trains – and the “Ocean,” with over 100 years of operation, is a “Classic” in every definition of the word.

Final pictures will be posted separately ……..

See y’all later!

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of “Our” Place

[siberianmo]

Hello coalminer3 - Thanx for the tip - I checked our local PBS site. Did a search on their next two weeks of programming for "Appalachia." Negative results. I'll keep looking ......

I'll get around to posting some other more typical Ottawa pictures .... tell us about your trips to/from there sometime.

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom

[coalminer3]

Good Morning - Fill the thermos and off we go...

PBS locally is running a series called "Appalachia." Not too bad, so far. However, they outdid themselves last night with color footage of Virginian mine shifters behind steam. It was nice to see this as we are in the heart of former VGN country . IIRC, this series will be released nationally fairly soon - if it's not out there already --you might want to look for it. BTW. thanks for the continuing story of your trip on VIA. Seeing the picture(s) of Ottawa brought back more than a few memories although I still can't get used to VIA equipment in there.

work safe

[siberianmo]

QUOTE: nickinwestwalesPosted: 22 May 2005, 20:18:51
Tom,hi,just popped in to pu***he mop around the kitchen and polish a few glasses and saw your note-

I will be out playing with one of the bands twice next weekend,and Jumping Jack Flash will be a special dedication for Thomas Weber Jr from now on,-He`s up there with Brian Jones & Ian Stewart,now they`ve got John Entwhistle back with Keith Moon as a rhythm section they`re playing to full houses every night....Your Boy is stage left,with a black custom Telecaster somewhere down by his knees,throwing those cross-beats against Brians slide guitar spirals.........................so so sorry for your loss my friend,I`ve tried to hide behind trivia here but I cant imagine the pain you and Carol must be going through,be strong and abide...speak soon,nick

Hello Nick Your kind words and deeds are vey much appreciated .....
By the by - YOU'VE got to have a discussion with Boris! This character has the girls in a twitter over his apparent inability to control his "urges." I've had him behind the bar for a time or two - seems comfortable with it all - but has turned off a customer or two with his, "What the F..... do you want?" as opposed to "whatillyahave?" ..... He's a one of a kind, for sure ..... [}:)]
So how about that railroad of yours?? You must be a bit behind in your reading .... check the SUMMARY page.

See ya![tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 23 May 2005, 00:01:08
Good evening folks.

Tom Haven't given up on labour day yet Heather's got a couple of administrative snags as well,she should have seen the vacation sheet by now but has not. We'll talk more later.

Speaking od administrative sangs i've got my railimages account now and i had / have the scanner workinf tested it last night and scanned in a saved a couple of shots. Now this aft I can't find them in the computer. Assuming I find them or scan them again, I'm not real sure how to load them up onto the account. You seem to be the wise grand poohbah of the railimages so any thoughts and or help would be greatly appreciated.

Passengerfan They have three domes, I'll need to consult the trusty branchline guide for the former numbers for you.Once I look them up I'll post the results for you my trackside guide dates from before they were bought so next time I'm at the inlaws I'll get the info for you. earlydiesel My late two cents is go for the dream job they don't usually come up or get offered very often. Remembeering that you have a cyberfamily as well as family family for support. well I'm off to enjoy the Victoria day festivities talk to you all soon. Rob

You know, something tells me that Labor day just 'wasn't meant to be' - nothing prophetic with that statement, but the hurdles are never ending. Carol tells me that the flaming A-hole she has been thinking would be replaced by a new department chair, MAY stay on for another term! Good grief .. that would shoot it down for sure. More to follow ........

Okay - first: go to your "start" menu (bottom left of your screen) - go to search - then to "files and folders" - type in a word or two that might reflect the photo's you scanned in. If you don't know ... then scan in another pix .... essentially follow the same steps you used when you scanned the first couple of times. Jot down any references to them that the software gives you - for example a file with ".jpg" or ".tif" and so forth. The software then generates a "place" to store your photos. Most times it will be "somewhere" in "My documents" - but not always. That's why a search may be of help. Should you find it in the search mode ... click on it and it will come up on your screen. You can then transfer it over to "My pictures" or whatever folder you like.

Insofar as RailImages goes - that took some time for me to "master." If you have trouble getting your "new account" to "work" as advertised - send an Email to the administrator. He'll reply - and he's helpful. Took me about a week for this account to finally get up and running. But, you know what? It's free and a service at that ... so patience is the watch word. Now, if the account is up and running and you wi***o load pictures, try this: log in - then in the upper right corner of the screen you'll see a menu box "album actions" - click on it and you'll see a menu with all kinds of options - "add photos" is what you want. Click and follow the directions ..... when the box comes up indicating it's ready to copy whatever you indicate, you can browse on any folders in your system to find where your photo's are. Once you find what you want, double click it .... it will show up in the copy screen, etc. You can also label these photo's in this screen as well.

Hope that helps ...... if you require a bit more assistance, drop me an Email.

See ya and once again, Happy Victoria Day to you and our Canadian friends!

Tom

[trolleyboy]

Good evening folks.Tom Haven't given up on labour day yet Heather's got a couple of administrative snags as well,she should have seen the vacation sheet by now but has not. We'll talk more later. Speaking od administrative sangs i've got my railimages account now and i had / have the scanner workinf tested it last night and scanned in a saved a couple of shots. Now this aft I can't find them in the computer. Assuming I find them or scan them again, I'm not real sure how to load them up onto the account. You seem to be the wise grand poohbah of the railimages so any thoughts and or help would be greatly appreciated[tup][8D]. Passengerfan They have three domes, I'll need to consult the trusty branchline guide for the former numbers for you.Once I look them up I'll post the results for you my trackside guide dates from before they were bought so next time I'm at the inlaws I'll get the info for you. earlydiesel My late two cents is go for the dream job they don't usually come up or get offered very often. Remembeering that you have a cyberfamily as well as family family for support. well I'm off to enjoy the Victoria day festivities talk to you all soon. Rob

[nickinwestwales]

Tom,hi,just popped in to pu***he mop around the kitchen and polish a few glasses and saw your note-I will be out playing with one of the bands twice next weekend,and Jumping Jack Flash will be a special dedication for Thomas Weber Jr from now on,-He`s up there with Brian Jones & Ian Stewart,now they`ve got John Entwhistle back with Keith Moon as a rhythm section they`re playing to full houses every night....Your Boy is stage left,with a black custom Telecaster somewhere down by his knees,throwing those cross-beats against Brians slide guitar spirals.........................so so sorry for your loss my friend,I`ve tried to hide behind trivia here but I cant imagine the pain you and Carol must be going through,be strong and abide...speak soon,nick

[siberianmo]

Good Sunday Morning to ya ....... Yes, we're CLOSED this fine day, however, it's a good opportunity for me to get this place squared away and then catch up on some unfinished business .........

By the by: HAPPY VICTORIA DAY tomorrow for all of our Canadian customers! Enjoy your long weekend .........

Time for a SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

QUOTE: JPowellPosted: 20 May 2005, 11:21:19
Afternoon all -
Si, I was in the neighborhood and thought I'd drop in for a drink before i head over to the CS. I must say,,, quite a place you have here. Lively bunch from what I've read in a few of the posts. And the food.... A very familiar taste of what I had in leftovers from the CS's anniversary bash... The steak, et al... Nick, you really outdo yourself in the kitchen my friend. BTW, is 'culinary' your 'real' job?
Well, I hear Chloe, Zoe, and Ruthie callin' me to get over to the CS for my lunch that I complained about earlier...
Take care!
JP

QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 20 May 2005, 12:03:38
G'morning everyone, Tom I'm glad that I'm still qualified to sit in at the bar LOL actually I'm having quite a bit of fun here.You will be happy to know that while I was at our exalyed VIA station here in town(okay I was at the LHS there) Both the east and westbounds were all budd.It seems the Ocean's loss for the time being may be our gain.I must say that P42's and Budd's are an even odder match than the f40's but what can you do.The one (westbound) is / was the Montreal train as it had it's baggage car in tow.Of interest the local switcher the last couple of day's has been another antique GMD1 1413,nice to see one still functioning aand in an almost pristine zebra stripe livery to boot. Well gents i'll wish you all the grace of the day. I'll try to pop back in later. Rob

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 20 May 2005, 12:06:08
Hey JP .... Good to see you 'round here. Don't rush off, but if you've made a committment, we understand.

Yes, this is a lively place, for sure. More importantly, check out the "reports" from the guys regarding their train travels - all "classics" for sure!

The idea of "Our" Place is to share our rail riding experiences, all while having a bit of fun in this cyber bar 'n grill. Thanx to the active imaginations of many of our "regulars," the idea has taken root and I'd say we're established.

C'mon back for tonight's bill or fare - normally it's pizza night (I prepare it). The first 8 slices are free PROVIDING you order a mug of your favorite brew with each slice! Additionally, we have steak & fries. There's more - now that Nick is Chief Chef - take a look at Nick's Picks the gourmet menu right over there by the pig's feet jar.

See ya soon! ......... now where was I? Oh yeah, getting "things" back to normal.

Tom

QUOTE: JPowellPosted: 20 May 2005, 13:00:41
Si -
Thanks for the invite for this evening's 'pub fare' but I unfortunately must decline. I am helping the 'CFO' and her son start moving this weekend and tonight's project is dismantling some cabinets and his bunkbed in prep for tomorrow's bunkbed rebuild. I'll try and stop in tomorrow evening, but not sure if I'll get stuck helping out more than I really want to.
As for Nick's Picks... next time I'm in for a 'spell' I will deffinately do that!
Till then...
JP

QUOTE: Ted D. KramerPosted: 20 May 2005, 13:40:42
Great suns of Jupiter, was that Boris? Tom, what is he doing wearing lifts, girley wig and a pinafore? Back from the errands and yes, I'll take that Royal straight up drizzled with a spoon of honey, no soda...sick call, don't you know. This will go down better then the hair down my back at Hubert's. Say Tom, will you be sharing pix of the War Museum with us? That would be of interest to at least four or five others to be sure.

St Louis was quite a rail hub through the "golden years." Our Frisco train from Tulsa to St Louis (The Oil Flyer?) backed into the terminal via a humungus wye that seemed to stretch the radius limitations of the coaches to their limit. The stub end terminal was a more impressive grid than K.C.'s through Station, however the quasi Egyptian architecture of Union Station is hard to beat for massive elegance. The Pennsy for New York was a little disappointing for me. I guess I was expecting too much from a major eastern road. The Frisco Diner took the award easily over Pennsy, but then, there is no "horse shoe curve" in Misourri either. Frisco was running EMD E-7's A and B while Pennsylvania sported four E-8's, A-B-B-A. Naturally, Penn Station, when we finally arrived, "took my breath away." I was in New York before but never had seen this titan from the inside before... my, my! Tom, if you are able and willing to elaborate on some of your experiences with pursuit water craft, I would be "all ears." Some say I am without inspiration. Anyhoo, thanks, I enjoyed our chat and now must go home and try to research the psychological import of "cross dressing." You don't suppose that could've been a traditional ensemble native to Albania? In any case, I'll rethink taking on Boris for preparations prior to Aug. 16th! So long all and not a word of the misidentification to Lucy, please.

QUOTE: earlydieselsPosted: 20 May 2005, 14:08:28
Hello everybody! The railroad called and wants to see me 1000 Monday. The first week in June is when I would start. That just moves things up. A lot to think about for this weekend and next week--money, moving, wife's job, etc. I need a Ale, Tom!

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 20 May 2005, 14:21:48
Canadian Rail Journey, Part III SEE PAGE 15

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 20 May 2005, 15:39:20
Now for some photo's to go along with my Part III commentary
SEE PAGE 15

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 20 May 2005, 16:25:00
For Rob A couple of years back I traveled in a VIA1 Budd car – nice accommodations – plenty of room. I do prefer the LRC’s though for corridor travel – hard not to like those cars. As far as loco’s go, well what is there to be said these days? The “fold along the dotted lines” approach to design doesn’t do a thing for me. But then, what do I know? I’m a retired sailor after all …… it’s always easy to be critical of the other guy’s efforts.

Don’t forget to stop in tonight – Friday’s around here are hoppin’ – but then again, after this mid-week party, I’m not too sure there’s much hop left in me!

See ya!
Tom

FOR JP Okay, ‘til then …….
Tom

FOR TED Hate to continue breaking the news, BUT, Boris has been wearing his “greasy spoon” apron, chefs hat and boondockers. I’d be careful out in public my friend!

The pictures at the War Museum is another story indeed. Let’s just say my battery ran out. A bit of clarification: I took along two fully charged batteries for my digital camera when we left for our adventure. Sitting in the drawer where for the accessories are two battery chargers – one as a plug in to the camera the other as a plug in to the wall. Left ‘em both at home. I was fortunate to get the shots I got ……. Each picture represented the “last” as I judiciously saved up the power for the trip back to Montreal. Once at the station, and with about an hour to kill, I wandered the ungerground shops at the various malls to find a charger. Finally did, right back at the station complex! Negotiated the guy down from $99 Cdn to $49 by using the logic: “How many of these do you sell?? Given that he had to dust off the one he had in stock!
Oh well, now I have three battery chargers for my Sony camera.

Regarding my exploits in federal law enforcement with the USCG – those kinds of things are better discussed elsewhere. I really prefer knowing who I’m talking to when it comes to things like this and more importantly who else is “listening.” Appreciate your understanding ……..

And yes, St. Louis WAS quite the passenger rail hub .... it's so sad to see what's left. Union Station doesn't even accommodate REAL passenger train service ...... was designed to be "upscale" and the developers "threw out" Amtrak. Long story ....... one day I'l share my thoughts on this; qualifies as "classic" - plus I was here when it happened. But, I have my memories and books .... so for me, ALL the nation's great train stations and depots still thrive!

Stick around - the gals will be gracing our establishment in a couple of hours.

Tom

FOR earlydiesels TWO frosty bottles comin’ right up …… whatever the decision, there’s always a seat at the bar ‘round here for you!

Tom

QUOTE: Ted D. KramerPosted: 20 May 2005, 19:24:24
Fantastic pictures and running commentary. The finished product is "its own reward," I'm sure. Personally, the "fold along the dotted line" description of post 1960's industrial designs, I feel, is right on the mark whether it be railroads, automobiles, or even Caribbean cruise ships.

There is nothing I would rather do than await the girls arrival and the inevitable social debauchery attending however I perceive an unseasonable chill in the air. There isn't anything much worse than a summer cold, so allow me to bid all bon soir until another time.

QUOTE: nickinwestwalesPosted: 20 May 2005, 21:02:52
Well Tom,how the devil are you-I must say you`re looking suprisingly chipper given the busy week that you`ve had,I wont stay long but I`m just back from a gig at the Bucaneer public house in Tenby,and need to wind down for a while,so, a molsons for me an Alexanders for yourself and the same again for this crowd of ner`do`wells---Well some small news from this side of the pond,after the encouragement received here & at the Coffee shop,have finally made it out of the armchair and back into the shed--for the first time in 3 years,have managed to run a train (G.P.9+6 cars and a van) from "Barrie/Allendale" all the way to the Metro Toronto staging tracks,around the balloon loop and on to "Steeles ave". yard-a total run of about 180-200 feet,thank you all for providing the inspiration,havn`t yet mastered the knack of digital photo downloads or whatever they are called,but will be happy to provide description of route if any intrest until I can persuade management to show me how it works .Well as it`s Friday,we`ll keep it tradional-Steaks & fries,any pizza you want,beer to wash it down with,OY-YOU!!-IF I CANT SMOKE THAT S**T IN HERE,NEITHER CAN YOU.......OUTSIDE PLEASE,thank you,now Boris,BORIS,confound the man where is he,right here you are ,okay, " I GO HOME NOW , YOU COOK FOOD FOR THESE NICE PEOPLE,GIRLS BEHIND BAR FIND YOU SOMEWHERE TO SLEEP,"see you all ,be good,nick

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 20 May 2005, 21:06:25
FOR TED C'mon back soon and hope you get over whatever is ailing you .......
I'm outta here too ... the gals have the bar .... see y'all tomorrow.

Remember, we're CLOSED on Sunday's .... of course you can always slip your messages through the slots on either sets of doors.

Nite all!

Tom

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 21 May 2005, 13:21:45
G'day all ...... From the looks of things 'round here, Friday night must have been "typical" indeed. Saw the note on the back bar glass indicating that if Boris doesn't behave himself, he'll be singing soprano rather than the deep baritone he is - signed, "The girls." Methinks this is a job for Nick ......

Three of my four rail trips in Canada have been posted, along with pictures .... check 'em out on pages 12, 13 and 15.

Birthday Watch List: Something new to participate in - let me know your Natal Day and age to be in 2005. This info will get posted in "Our" Place and as the date approaches, our "committee" will conjur up plan an appropriate celebration.

Nick I must have just missed you last evening, Nick - spring was sprung and I needed to rest my aging bones.

About your layout: What gauge are you running? Sounds like G to me, but sure would appreciate a description. If I can be of assistance to you with any photo-type downloads, send me an Email - I'll be happy to assist.

Meant to make a comment regarding the "Stones" and where the "real" talent lies. My oldest son was an absolute addict when it came to their music. I know that he had EVERYTHING pressed in vinyl by them, including knock-offs. He also was big time into Nazarath, the rock group from Scotland. In fact, he was their album art director (for lack of a better description.) Even did a tour or three with them. I'll tell you that the influence of Mick and the Boyz had concerned - raising kids is hard enough, but some of THAT STUFF was unfit for the human ear, especially those in their formative years (late 60's into the 70's). When he formed his own group - guess who he thought he was while performing? You got it. Well, Tom Jr. isn't anymore - he was taken from us a bit over four years ago in an auto accident at age 39. Left behind two kids and a wife. Somewhere in this expanse of Universe, I'd bet my retirement pay that he's still listening to the "Stones" - so where's the real talent? In the fan base my friend - the ever lovin' fan base.

Okay - I'm outta here for a bit ....... Boris has the bar (oh Lord!) .............

Tom

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 21 May 2005, 13:39:09

Hey guys! I'm thinking of setting up some "logos" for our regular customers.

They can be whatever you'd like 'em to be - your favorite railroad - your model railroad - a photo, etc.

Only requirement that we must adhere to is the "logo" has to be in the "thumb" size.

For example: the picture I post of "Our" Place at the end of many of my submissions is "thumb" size. Do a "right" click on it, go to "properties" click and highlight the URL - this is what you should see -

http://www.railimages.com/albums/thomasweber/aco.thumb.jpg

Notice the word "thumb" to the right? That prevents the picture from being enlarged when posted. (Of course, this can be "backed out," if one wants to post a picture for others to enlarge.}

There is a catch, however, you must load your logo/picture onto a site that permits free posting to other sites. Confused? Let me explain - you cannot simply take a photo and post it on this forum. You have to "belong" to a group that offers this kind of service. The one I use is www.railimages.com - as do many other forum participants. That's where all of my photo's that you have seen on this thread are stored. I have to transfer them from my digital camera or hard drive to www.railimages.com then transfer them again to this forum. Sounds much more confusing than it really is. If anyone has problems or questions, fire off an Email to me .....

So, depending on the response, I'd like to have some fun with this.

See ya!

Tom

QUOTE: KenLarsenPosted: 21 May 2005, 15:45:04
Hail, Siberius!

Thought I'd stop in and grab a Philly cheesesteak and an iced tea.

Guess I owe you a belated , better late than never I suppose ... I set a goal for myself to reach a certain layout construction milestone before I resumed actively participating in these forums. I notice you've inherited a few patrons from "across the street" LOL.

Really enjoyed viewing your VIA rail trip images, I eagerly await the next episode.

TTFN
--------------------
-ken

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 21 May 2005, 16:19:58
Hi Ken! to "Our" Place ........ first drink is on the house, so enjoy!

Yes, this place is something else indeed. Between the "Shop" and here, along with "Canadian Passenger Railroads!" there are times when I wonder how and why did this all begin!? But, it's fun 'round here and the "customers" are really top shelf. No 'turn offs' in sight ..........

The idea is to talk "Classic Trains" and have some fun while doing it. Sure, we "imbibe" 'round here - but it's a cyber bar 'n grill, no harm, no foul - so to speak.

Hope you come back often and participate in our "Classic Trains" tallk .......

See ya!

Tom

QUOTE: KenLarsenPosted: 21 May 2005, 16:35:47
Tom,

It's great to be back.

During my 3 days of convention attendance last week, I got to pass Union Station several times. Still plenty of trains...except most of these are commuter, not like the glory days of the Capitol Limited, the George Washington and the Cresent. But I suppose it's preferable to empty tracks.

I don't know if I can dream up a logo for my gritty industrial short line, a simple Capitol dome may have to suffice.

Suppertime, gotta run!

--------------------
-ken

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 21 May 2005, 16:55:01
Hey Ken! Here's the "deal" if those commuters ran on the tracks traveled by the "classics," and the "classics" are no more - then your accounts of the journeys taken are more than welcome 'round here! (Our "Excecutive Committe" came up with that determination ....... )

The logo you placed at the bottom of your last post is a good example for the guys to "right click" on ... go to "properties" - click and the URL shows "thmb" - just a different service - this one is trainweb.org - so, guys, don't be afraid of this - it just might be some fun.

Thanx, Ken - see ya later.

Tom

QUOTE: passengerfanPosted: 21 May 2005, 22:13:42
Tom
I finally made it back I have had to earn a living for the past few days so have kind of ignored "OUR PLACE" will try not to make that mistake again. Time for a Crown Royal and whatever the house is having. Unfortunately my boss says my time for goofing off as he calls it is going to be limited for the next couple of months. Little does he know how easy it is for me to goof off as he calls it.
Haven't even had time to go by either of our active stations for awhile so will plan a trip to those in the next few days. We are lucky how many cities do you know of with 300,000 people having two active Amtrak stations. We have a third station but is in a sad state of neglect at the present time. But at least it is saved and will not be leveled.
Well have enjoyed the pictures and just catching up on the rest.
TA TA for now Al

Good to see you again, passengerfan Al - don't fret - we all are entitled to a LIFE outside of the cyber bar 'n grill! [tup]

I don't know of any other state that can equal or surpass the effort that California has to keep Amtrak rolling. Should be a model - but alas, ain't so.

Enjoy the viewing ..... [tup] [;)]

Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 21 May 2005, 23:56:14
Good evening everyone. Tom I like the idea of the personalized thumbnails. I'm confused though( and no it's not Boris's strange atire though I think the powdered wig and faux beauty mark are a bit over the top) Back to my thought are you posting the thumbs or are we sorry i get a bit blonde once in a while. If you are the photo I sent you of 2894 parked in front of the station would be my choice. BTW I've requested a railimages account today(we,ve aquired a second hand flat scanner) so I may be able to share new photo's with everyone in the near future. Also for Passengerfan and others interested. I was doing some reading on the Algoma Central this afternoon, and the dome cars that they are using are all ex WP cars. That's my only tidbit today. Happy long weekend everyone. Rob

Hi Rob - the personalized thumbnails idea may be a bit more difficult for ME than first imagined. What I envision is being able to store them all in a central place - like my photo album for example - then draw upon them from time to time for posting here. I know it can be done .....

Speaking of long weekends, don't give up on us ... Labor Day still is possible, just lots of administrative (university) delays at our end ....

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom

QUOTE: passengerfanPosted: 22 May 2005, 02:42:56
Trolleyboy Thx for the info on Algoma Central dome cars . Don't happen to know how many they have and car numbers by chance do you?
Thx Al

Tom I beleive the CHATEAU series sleepers you mention were built with duplex roomettes just a wee bit smaller than standard roomettes found in MANOR series sleeping cars on Via Rail Canada. Amtrak charged the same for both in the few cars they bought with duplex roomettes made no differnce in pricing. The same was true of the Amtrak sleeping cars that had compartments they sold them at bedroom rates as well. Duplex Roomettes were step up or step down from aisle and roomettes were all on the same level. Outside the cars the duplex roomette windows were staggered and roomette windows all on same level.
Time for one more round for the house then must get some shuteye sometime tonight.
We have an attractive young lady who drives a jeep wrangler stopping by the office now who is always in western dress just happened to see her get in her jeep the other day and she has a bumper sticker that reads "COWGIRLS need more than an eight second ride" thought I would share that with the gang at the bar.

I believe you are correct about those Roomettes in the Chateau series of Budd cars. I have traveled in the other types - Southern - way back in the early '50's from Mobile, Al to NYC. Anyway, this last experience of mine was the first time I ever had a floor level single bedroom in a Chateau car. Always had the step-up situation. More than once, I forgot about the step down ...... [:(!] While there is more accessible storage space with the step-up room, I prefer the other. It's all a matter of ensuring that the "things" you need are out of your luggage, before pulling the bed out ..... with the step-up, the shelf provides a good storage area and is available with the bed down as well. Undoubtedly you know all of this ...

Great bumper sticker! However, what's wrong with 8 seconds? Works for me! [}:)]

Enjoy the rest of the weekend! [tup] [;)]
-------------------------------
That's it .... time to get working on Part IV (and final) of my rail journey.

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place

[passengerfan]

Trolleyboy Thx for the info on Algoma Central dome cars . Don't happen to know how many they have and car numbers by chance do you?
Thx Al

Tom I beleive the CHATEAU series sleepers you mention were built with duplex roomettes just a wee bit smaller than standard roomettes found in MANOR series sleeping cars on Via Rail Canada. Amtrak charged the same for both in the few cars they bought with duplex roomettes made no differnce in pricing. The same was true of the Amtrak sleeping cars that had compartments they sold them at bedroom rates as well. Duplex Roomettes were step up or step down from aisle and roomettes were all on the same level. Outside the cars the duplex roomette windows were staggered and roomette windows all on same level.
Time for one more round for the house then must get some shuteye sometime tonight.
We have an attractive young lady who drives a jeep wrangler stopping by the office now who is always in western dress just happened to see her get in her jeep the other day and she has a bumper sticker that reads "COWGIRLS need more than an eight second ride" thought I would share that with the gang at the bar.

[trolleyboy]

Good evening everyone. Tom I like the idea of the personalized thumbnails. I'm confused though( and no it's not Boris's strange atire though I think the powdered wig and faux beauty mark are a bit over the top) Back to my thought are you posting the thumbs or are we sorry i get a bit blonde once in a while. If you are the photo I sent you of 2894 parked in front of the station would be my choice. BTW I've requested a railimages account today(we,ve aquired a second hand flat scanner) so I may be able to share new photo's with everyone in the near future.[tup][:D] Also for Passengerfan and others interested. I was doing some reading on the Algoma Central this afternoon, and the dome cars that they are using are all ex WP cars. That's my only tidbit today. Happy long weekend everyone.[^] Rob

[passengerfan]

Tom
I finally made it back I have had to earn a living for the past few days so have kind of ignored "OUR PLACE" will try not to make that mistake again. Time for a Crown Royal and whatever the house is having. Unfortunately my boss says my time for goofing off as he calls it is going to be limited for the next couple of months. Little does he know how easy it is for me to goof off as he calls it.
Haven't even had time to go by either of our active stations for awhile so will plan a trip to those in the next few days. We are lucky how many cities do you know of with 300,000 people having two active Amtrak stations. We have a third station but is in a sad state of neglect at the present time. But at least it is saved and will not be leveled.
Well have enjoyed the pictures and just catching up on the rest.
TA TA for now Al.

[siberianmo]

Hey Ken! Here's the "deal" if those commuters ran on the tracks traveled by the "classics," and the "classics" are no more - then your accounts of the journeys taken are more than welcome 'round here! (Our "Excecutive Committe" came up with that determination ....... )

The logo you placed at the bottom of your last post is a good example for the guys to "right click" on ... go to "properties" - click and the URL shows "thmb" - just a different service - this one is trainweb.org - so, guys, don't be afraid of this - it just might be some fun. [tup]

Thanx, Ken - see ya later. [tup] [;)]

Tom

[Anonymous]

Tom,

It's great to be back.

During my 3 days of convention attendance last week, I got to pass Union Station several times. Still plenty of trains...except most of these are commuter, not like the glory days of the Capitol Limited, the George Washington and the Cresent[sigh]. But I suppose it's preferable to empty tracks.

I don't know if I can dream up a logo for my gritty industrial short line, a simple Capitol dome may have to suffice.

Suppertime, gotta run!

[siberianmo]

Hi Ken! [#welcome] to "Our" Place ........ first drink is on the house, so enjoy! [tup] [;)]

Yes, this place is something else indeed. Between the "Shop" and here, along with "Canadian Passenger Railroads!" there are times when I wonder how and why did this all begin!? But, it's fun 'round here and the "customers" are really top shelf. No 'turn offs' in sight ..........

The idea is to talk "Classic Trains" and have some fun while doing it. Sure, we "imbibe" 'round here - but it's a cyber bar 'n grill, no harm, no foul - so to speak.

Hope you come back often and participate in our "Classic Trains" tallk .......

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)

[Anonymous]

Hail, Siberius!

Thought I'd stop in and grab a Philly cheesesteak and an iced tea.

Guess I owe you a belated [bday], better late than never I suppose [:I]... I set a goal for myself to reach a certain layout construction milestone before I resumed actively participating in these forums. I notice you've inherited a few patrons from "across the street" LOL.

Really enjoyed viewing your VIA rail trip images, I eagerly await the next episode.

TTFN

[siberianmo]

Hey guys! I'm thinking of setting up some "logos" for our regular customers.

They can be whatever you'd like 'em to be - your favorite railroad - your model railroad - a photo, etc.

Only requirement that we must adhere to is the "logo" has to be in the "thumb" size.

For example: the picture I post of "Our" Place at the end of many of my submissions is "thumb" size. Do a "right" click on it, go to "properties" click and highlight the URL - this is what you should see -

http://www.railimages.com/albums/thomasweber/aco.thumb.jpg

Notice the word "thumb" to the right? That prevents the picture from being enlarged when posted. (Of course, this can be "backed out," if one wants to post a picture for others to enlarge.}

There is a catch, however, you must load your logo/picture onto a site that permits free posting to other sites. Confused? Let me explain - you cannot simply take a photo and post it on this forum. You have to "belong" to a group that offers this kind of service. The one I use is www.railimages.com - as do many other forum participants. That's where all of my photo's that you have seen on this thread are stored. I have to transfer them from my digital camera or hard drive to www.railimages.com then transfer them again to this forum. Sounds much more confusing than it really is. If anyone has problems or questions, fire off an Email to me .....

So, depending on the response, I'd like to have some fun with this.

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)

[siberianmo]

G'day all ...... From the looks of things 'round here, Friday night must have been "typical" indeed. Saw the note on the back bar glass indicating that if Boris doesn't behave himself, he'll be singing soprano rather than the deep baritone he is - signed, "The girls." [}:)] Methinks this is a job for Nick ...... [:-,]

Three of my four rail trips in Canada have been posted, along with pictures .... check 'em out on pages 12, 13 and 15.

Birthday Watch List: Something new to participate in - let me know your Natal Day and age to be in 2005. This info will get posted in "Our" Place and as the date approaches, our "committee" will conjur up plan an appropriate celebration.

Nick Must have just missed you last evening .....

QUOTE: nickinwestwalesPosted: 20 May 2005, 21:02:52
Well Tom,how the devil are you-I must say you`re looking suprisingly chipper given the busy week that you`ve had,I wont stay long but I`m just back from a gig at the Bucaneer public house in Tenby,and need to wind down for a while,so, a molsons for me an Alexanders for yourself and the same again for this crowd of ner`do`wells---

Well some small news from this side of the pond,after the encouragement received here & at the Coffee shop,have finally made it out of the armchair and back into the shed--for the first time in 3 years,have managed to run a train (G.P.9+6 cars and a van) from "Barrie/Allendale" all the way to the Metro Toronto staging tracks,around the balloon loop and on to "Steeles ave". yard-a total run of about 180-200 feet,thank you all for providing the inspiration,havn`t yet mastered the knack of digital photo downloads or whatever they are called,but will be happy to provide description of route if any intrest until I can persuade management to show me how it works .

Well as it`s Friday,we`ll keep it tradional-Steaks & fries,any pizza you want,beer to wash it down with,OY-YOU!!-IF I CANT SMOKE THAT S**T IN HERE,NEITHER CAN YOU.......OUTSIDE PLEASE,thank you,now Boris,BORIS,confound the man where is he,right here you are ,okay, " I GO HOME NOW , YOU COOK FOOD FOR THESE NICE PEOPLE,GIRLS BEHIND BAR FIND YOU SOMEWHERE TO SLEEP,"see you all ,be good,nick

I must have just missed you last evening, Nick - spring was sprung and I needed to rest my aging bones.

About your layout: What gauge are you running? Sounds like G to me, but sure would appreciate a description. If I can be of assistance to you with any photo-type downloads, send me an Email - I'll be happy to assist.

Meant to make a comment regarding the "Stones" and where the "real" talent lies. My oldest son was an absolute addict when it came to their music. I know that he had EVERYTHING pressed in vinyl by them, including knock-offs. He also was big time into Nazarath, the rock group from Scotland. In fact, he was their album art director (for lack of a better description.) Even did a tour or three with them. I'll tell you that the influence of Mick and the Boyz had concerned - raising kids is hard enough, but some of THAT STUFF was unfit for the human ear, especially those in their formative years (late 60's into the 70's). When he formed his own group - guess who he thought he was while performing? You got it. Well, Tom Jr. isn't anymore - he was taken from us a bit over four years ago in an auto accident at age 39. Left behind two kids and a wife. Somewhere in this expanse of Universe, I'd bet my retirement pay that he's still listening to the "Stones" - so where's the real talent? In the fan base my friend - the ever lovin' fan base.

Okay - I'm outta here for a bit ....... Boris has the bar (oh Lord!) .............[%-)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place

[siberianmo]

QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 20 May 2005, 19:24:24
Fantastic pictures and running commentary. The finished product is "its own reward," I'm sure. Personally, the "fold along the dotted line" description of post 1960's industrial designs, I feel, is right on the mark whether it be railroads, automobiles, or even Caribbean cruise ships.

There is nothing I would rather do than await the girls arrival and the inevitable social debauchery attending however I perceive an unseasonable chill in the air. There isn't anything much worse than a summer cold, so allow me to bid all bon soir until another time.

C'mon back soon and hope you get over whatever is ailing you .......

I'm outta here too ... the gals have the bar .... see y'all tomorrow. [zzz]

Remember, we're CLOSED on Sunday's .... of course you can always slip your messages through the slots on either sets of doors.

Nite all! [tup] [;)]

Tom (Sibeianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place

[nickinwestwales]

Well Tom,how the devil are you-I must say you`re looking suprisingly chipper given the busy week that you`ve had,I wont stay long but I`m just back from a gig at the Bucaneer public house in Tenby,and need to wind down for a while,so, a molsons for me an Alexanders for yourself and the same again for this crowd of ner`do`wells---Well some small news from this side of the pond,after the encouragement received here & at the Coffee shop,have finally made it out of the armchair and back into the shed--for the first time in 3 years,have managed to run a train (G.P.9+6 cars and a van) from "Barrie/Allendale" all the way to the Metro Toronto staging tracks,around the balloon loop and on to "Steeles ave". yard-a total run of about 180-200 feet,thank you all for providing the inspiration,havn`t yet mastered the knack of digital photo downloads or whatever they are called,but will be happy to provide description of route if any intrest until I can persuade management to show me how it works .Well as it`s Friday,we`ll keep it tradional-Steaks & fries,any pizza you want,beer to wash it down with,OY-YOU!!-IF I CANT SMOKE THAT S**T IN HERE,NEITHER CAN YOU.......OUTSIDE PLEASE,thank you,now Boris,BORIS,confound the man where is he,right here you are ,okay, " I GO HOME NOW , YOU COOK FOOD FOR THESE NICE PEOPLE,GIRLS BEHIND BAR FIND YOU SOMEWHERE TO SLEEP,"see you all ,be good,nick

[Anonymous]

Fantastic pictures and running commentary. The finished product is "its own reward," I'm sure. Personally, the "fold along the dotted line" description of post 1960's industrial designs, I feel, is right on the mark whether it be railroads, automobiles, or even Caribbean cruise ships.

There is nothing I would rather do than await the girls arrival and the inevitable social debauchery attending however I perceive an unseasonable chill in the air. There isn't anything much worse than a summer cold, so allow me to bid all bon soir until another time.

[siberianmo]

QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 20 May 2005, 12:03:38
G'morning everyone, Tom I'm glad that I'm still qualified to sit in at the bar LOL actually I'm having quite a bit of fun here.

You will be happy to know that while I was at our exalyed VIA station here in town(okay I was at the LHS there) Both the east and westbounds were all budd.It seems the Ocean's loss for the time being may be our gain.I must say that P42's and Budd's are an even odder match than the f40's but what can you do.The one (westbound) is / was the Montreal train as it had it's baggage car in tow.Of interest the local switcher the last couple of day's has been another antique GMD1 1413,nice to see one still functioning aand in an almost pristine zebra stripe livery to boot.

Well gents i'll wish you all the grace of the day. I'll try to pop back in later. Rob

A couple of years back I traveled in a VIA1 Budd car – nice accommodations – plenty of room. I do prefer the LRC’s though for corridor travel – hard not to like those cars. As far as loco’s go, well what is there to be said these days? The “fold along the dotted lines” approach to design doesn’t do a thing for me. But then, what do I know? I’m a retired sailor after all …… it’s always easy to be critical of the other guy’s efforts.

Don’t forget to stop in tonight – Friday’s around here are hoppin’ – but then again, after this mid-week party, I’m not too sure there’s much hop left in me!

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: JPowelPosted: 20 May 2005, 13:00:41
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo
Hey JP .... Good to see you 'round here. Don't rush off, but if you've made a committment, we understand.

Yes, this is a lively place, for sure. More importantly, check out the "reports" from the guys regarding their train travels - all "classics" for sure!

The idea of "Our" Place is to share our rail riding experiences, all while having a bit of fun in this cyber bar 'n grill. Thanx to the active imaginations of many of our "regulars," the idea has taken root and I'd say we're established.

C'mon back for tonight's bill or fare - normally it's pizza night (I prepare it). The first 8 slices are free PROVIDING you order a mug of your favorite brew with each slice! Additionally, we have steak & fries. There's more - now that Nick is Chief Chef - take a look at Nick's Picks the gourmet menu right over there by the pig's feet jar.

See ya soon! ......... now where was I? Oh yeah, getting "things" back to normal.

Tom
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Si - Thanks for the invite for this evening's 'pub fare' but I unfortunately must decline. I am helping the 'CFO' and her son start moving this weekend and tonight's project is dismantling some cabinets and his bunkbed in prep for tomorrow's bunkbed rebuild. I'll try and stop in tomorrow evening, but not sure if I'll get stuck helping out more than I really want to.
As for Nick's Picks... next time I'm in for a 'spell' I will deffinately do that!
Till then...JP

Okay, ‘til then …….[tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: Ted D. KramerPosted: 20 May 2005, 13:40:42
Great suns of Jupiter, was that Boris? Tom, what is he doing wearing lifts, girley wig and a pinafore? Back from the errands and yes, I'll take that Royal straight up drizzled with a spoon of honey, no soda...sick call, don't you know. This will go down better then the hair down my back at Hubert's.

Say Tom, will you be sharing pix of the War Museum with us? That would be of interest to at least four or five others to be sure.

St Louis was quite a rail hub through the "golden years." Our Frisco train from Tulsa to St Louis (The Oil Flyer?) backed into the terminal via a humungus wye that seemed to stretch the radius limitations of the coaches to their limit. The stub end terminal was a more impressive grid than K.C.'s through Station, however the quasi Egyptian architecture of Union Station is hard to beat for massive elegance. The Pennsy for New York was a little disappointing for me. I guess I was expecting too much from a major eastern road. The Frisco Diner took the award easily over Pennsy, but then, there is no "horse shoe curve" in Misourri either. Frisco was running EMD E-7's A and B while Pennsylvania sported four E-8's, A-B-B-A. Naturally, Penn Station, when we finally arrived, "took my breath away." I was in New York before but never had seen this titan from the inside before... my, my!

Tom, if you are able and willing to elaborate on some of your experiences with pursuit water craft, I would be "all ears."

Some say I am without inspiration. Anyhoo, thanks, I enjoyed our chat and now must go home and try to research the psychological import of "cross dressing." You don't suppose that could've been a traditional ensemble native to Albania? In any case, I'll rethink taking on Boris for preparations prior to Aug. 16th! So long all and not a word of the misidentification to Lucy, please.

Hate to continue breaking the news, BUT, Boris has been wearing his “greasy spoon” apron, chefs hat and boondockers. I’d be careful out in public my friend!

The pictures at the War Museum is another story indeed. Let’s just say my battery ran out. A bit of clarification: I took along two fully charged batteries for my digital camera when we left for our adventure. Sitting in the drawer where for the accessories are two battery chargers – one as a plug in to the camera the other as a plug in to the wall. Left ‘em both at home. I was fortunate to get the shots I got ……. Each picture represented the “last” as I judiciously saved up the power for the trip back to Montreal. Once at the station, and with about an hour to kill, I wandered the ungerground shops at the various malls to find a charger. Finally did, right back at the station complex! Negotiated the guy down from $99 Cdn to $49 by using the logic: “How many of these do you sell?? Given that he had to dust off the one he had in stock!
Oh well, now I have three battery chargers for my Sony camera.

Regarding my exploits in federal law enforcement with the USCG – those kinds of things are better discussed elsewhere. I really prefer knowing who I’m talking to when it comes to things like this and more importantly who else is “listening.” Appreciate your understanding ……..

And yes, St. Louis WAS quite the passenger rail hub .... it's so sad to see what's left. Union Station doesn't even accommodate REAL passenger train service ...... was designed to be "upscale" and the developers "threw out" Amtrak. Long story ....... one day I'l share my thoughts on this; qualifies as "classic" - plus I was here when it happened. But, I have my memories and books .... so for me, ALL the nation's great train stations and depots still thrive! [tup] [;)]

Stick around - the gals will be gracing our establishment in a couple of hours. [}:)]

Tom

QUOTE: earlydieselsPosted: 20 May 2005, 14:08:28
Hello everybody! The railroad called and wants to see me 1000 Monday. The first week in June is when I would start. That just moves things up. A lot to think about for this weekend and next week--money, moving, wife's job, etc. I need a Ale, Tom!

TWO frosty bottles comin’ right up …… whatever the decision, there’s always a seat at the bar ‘round here for you! [tup] [;)]

Tom

[siberianmo]

Now for some photo's to go along with my Part III commentary: (Click to enlarge)

VIA Rail station, Ottawa, Ontario


Similar train to Montreal from Ottawa


Evangeline Park car in Montreal's Central Station


Single bedroom "Roomette" in Chateau Brule car


Single bedroom "Roomette" in Chateau Brule car


Crossing the St. Lawrence Seaway on the Victoria Jubilee Bridge


Mural Lounge in the Evangeline Park car


Service bar in the Evangeline Park car


Dome of the Evangeline Park car


"Joanne" in the Bullet Lounge of the Evangeline Park car


Journey's end - F40PH's at Halifax, Nova Scotia

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Enjoy!

See y'all later!

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of "Our" Place

[siberianmo]

Canadian Rail Journey, Part III

The trip back to Montreal on Monday, May 9th, was aboard a similar VIA Rail consist to the one that brought me to Ottawa (4 LRC coaches powered by a Genesis P42 loco). The car was only 1/3rd full, whereas the morning train was packed. My only gripe with the outbound train to Montreal is that there was no opportunity to snap off a few pix …. Boarding call, followed by a “march” to the cars, very structured and organized to say the least.

Departing the Ottawa station at 3:10 PM, Train #34 began the scheduled nearly 2 hour trip to Montreal. The ride was smooth and comfortable. Before I knew it, we were approaching Place Bonaventure and Montreal’s Central Station. Our early arrival (10 minutes) provided me with a little over an hour before boarding call for the “Ocean” and my return trip to Halifax.

One thing of note on the way back from Ottawa was my observance of a N. de M. electrified locomotive sitting at one of the shops near downtown, on the south side of the mainline. This loco didn’t look “well” and my guess (since corroborated) is that it was there for maintenance. I didn’t have the time to snap off a photo, for before I knew it, there it was – and there it went! I still have to look twice when I see the N. de M. markings on rail cars – seeing more of ‘em these days as CP’s and CN’s empires expand.

Once again, sitting within Montreal’s Central Station, listening to the sounds of the train announcements – chimes – bilingual announcements – the hustle and bustle of a real live train station all around me. Yes – this was and remains a special place for me and those of us who appreciate all aspects of passenger rail travel.

The boarding for the Ocean took place precisely at 6 PM for those holding Easterly Class tickets (bedrooms). Proceeding down the escalator to the awaiting train, gleaming in the station lights, I found myself mesmerized once again with just how great those Budd stainless steel cars look and how well VIA Rail has maintained them. (Sure, some may find fault here and there, but my take on that is these very same people probably have “issues” with most things in life – perhaps even Santa Claus!)

My single bedroom (Roomette) this time was at floor level and once getting my gear stowed, I proceeded to the next car, the Evangeline Park observation dome. The 11 car train was the same that brought me to Montreal in the morning – 2 FP40’s (#6441 & 6405) – one baggage, two coaches, one Skyline dome car, one dining car, five Chateau series bedroom cars and the Evangeline Park observation dome car. Car attendants were the same as well, “Joanne” in the Park car and “Al” in the Chateau Brule bedroom car adjacent to the Park car.

Sitting up in the dome – front seat on the right side, I engaged in my familiar “routine” of watching the procession of commuter trains leaving with their cars full, heading off to their suburban destinations. On the right side were the electrified loco’s (out of sight as they had backed in) and on the far left were the trains powered by F40PH’s of Montreal commuter rail system, “AMT” – translated: Montreal Agency of Transportation. During my time in the dome, I did see on LRC consist arrive, powered by a Genesis P42 in that great VIA Rail livery.

6:30 PM arrived and the Ocean slowly left the station behind as once again daylight enveloped the train, giving new perspective to it all. Crossing the St. Lawrence on the Victoria Jubilee Bridge is always special. The Seaway below, with the ships heading off to their destinations, the automobiles, trucks and buses on the bridge, a passing commuter train to the left and of course the structure itself with a turnout to the right, over the water no less. Really is interesting to take it all in.

On this evening, I decided to forgo the dining car experience for two reasons. First, the menu was the same as our Thursday, May 5th trip to Halifax and my Sunday, May 8th trip to Montreal. Enough! Second, I just wasn’t all that hungry – so a sandwich in the Park car dome, with a couple of Alexander Keith’s pale ales “worked” well for me.

VIA Rail is about to undergo several changes to what many of their regular passengers have taken for granted. I posted a separate thread regarding these changes on two forums, and provided Email’s to several people who requested this insight. So, for anyone interested in what these changes are all about – check the previous posts on this thread, and you’ll find them.]

Remaining in the Park car’s dome until about 10:30 PM, I finally gave in to the urge to sleep, and called it a day – a long, enjoyable day. I had accomplished that which was to be done – once again enjoyed the “light show” of the loco’s headlight playing games with the shadows of the night along with the assorted reflections of color bouncing off the rooflines of the cars before me. The signal lights changing, the illumination within the structures within view of the tracks and the occasional highway vehicle racing along in the night. Always captivates my interests …….

Tuesday morning, May 10th and the last leg of my “solo” rail trip would be coming to and end this day. The day began a bit on the overcast side, no rain, just somewhat gloomy. Up at 6:30 AM Atlantic Daylight Savings Time, and directly to the Park car dome. A couple of “shots” of juice, coffee and cookies (purchased at one of the shops within Montreal’s Central Station), provided me with the “start” I needed. “Joanne” was provided with her remuneration in the form of a new cookie supply for being so kind to me the day before.] More than one passenger asked about the “Continental breakfast,” only to be told it no longer is offered (as explained in one of my previous trip reports.) Unfortunately, it appears VIA Rail didn’t do a good job in keeping the passengers informed, especially those accustomed to this particular feature.

Breakfast in the dining car was enjoyable, as always. Several people were commenting aloud with regard to the “missing” continental breakfast in the Park Car’s bullet lounge. It appears that good public relations was not enhanced by this move.

At Campbellton, New Brunswick – about a 15 minute stop - two VIA Rail engineers boarded the train as passenger. They were operating Train #15 on Monday night heading towards Montreal when, according to the senior Engineer, a woman apparently committed suicide right in front of their locomotive. A 42 year old woman stopped her vehicle on the tracks at Nigadoo, NB and waited for the train to hit her. The Engineers were taken off the train for return to Moncton on our train, somewhat somber to say the least.. Needless to say, she died at the scene.

If you’ve never witnessed the scenery in that part of New Brunswick, I find it to be worth the view. Lots of water – the Bay of Chaleur, rivers, inlets and lots of wooded areas, punctuated by a building or three now and then. Stopping at Miramichi, at Miramichi Bay, always perks my interests too. Formerly, Newcastle, the name change apparently was attributable to the mergers of several communities into what it is today. Anyway, for the duration of the stop, there always seems to be lots to look at.

Arriving at Moncton, NB at 11:45 AM, it was time to stretch the aging legs, take some photo’s (again!) and just enjoy what looked like would be turning into a blue skies day after all.

The best part of the trip, insofar as my choice in scenery was yet to come. Passing through Sackville, NB with the Bay of Fundy to the right, the prison to the left and then the historic Sackville Station to the right brought back many fond memories. Sackville happens to be the home of a good friend of mine and at least annually, I try to visit with him on a “turn around’ VIA Rail trip from Montreal. There’s about a 4 hour opportunity for a get together, then the westbound pulls in – thereby giving me a “two nighter” on the train, coupled with a brief reunion with my friend. Works well every time!

Next stop was Amherst, NB – first station stop in Nova Scotia. That is followed by Springhill Junction (flag stop) and I always look for Anne Murray – but somehow our schedules just don’t ever coincide!

Traveling eastward to Truro, the scenery is simply beautiful as the train takes to the ridge line of the mountains (“hills” to those of you in western provinces and states!). On this day, Train #15 passed us on the right, an all Renaissance consist heading to Montreal. From Truro to Halifax, nothing but blue skies and signs of lots of flooding from the torrential rains of recent days past.

Passing by “Mom’s” house at Bedford Basin, my wife and mother-in-law were on the front porch, waving as the Park car zoomed by. Another picture taken and another “signal” given to fire up the Buick for the trip to the station in order to pick me up. Works every time!

So, that’s about it. Leg #3 of my 4 part VIA Rail adventure came to an end at 4:45 PM ADST – 25 minutes late – but once again, as far as I’m concerned – on time!

To be continued ……….

See y’all later! [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of “Our” Place

[Anonymous]

Hello everybody! The railroad called and wants to see me 1000 Monday. The first week in June is when I would start. That just moves things up. A lot to think about for this weekend and next week--money, moving, wife's job, etc. I need a Ale, Tom!

[Anonymous]

Great suns of Jupiter, was that Boris? Tom, what is he doing wearing lifts, girley wig and a pinafore? Back from the errands and yes, I'll take that Royal straight up drizzled with a spoon of honey, no soda...sick call, don't you know. This will go down better then the hair down my back at Hubert's. Say Tom, will you be sharing pix of the War Museum with us? That would be of interest to at least four or five others to be sure.

St Louis was quite a rail hub through the "golden years." Our Frisco train from Tulsa to St Louis (The Oil Flyer?) backed into the terminal via a humungus wye that seemed to stretch the radius limitations of the coaches to their limit. The stub end terminal was a more impressive grid than K.C.'s through Station, however the quasi Egyptian architecture of Union Station is hard to beat for massive elegance. The Pennsy for New York was a little disappointing for me. I guess I was expecting too much from a major eastern road. The Frisco Diner took the award easily over Pennsy, but then, there is no "horse shoe curve" in Misourri either. Frisco was running EMD E-7's A and B while Pennsylvania sported four E-8's, A-B-B-A. Naturally, Penn Station, when we finally arrived, "took my breath away." I was in New York before but never had seen this titan from the inside before... my, my! Tom, if you are able and willing to elaborate on some of your experiences with pursuit water craft, I would be "all ears." Some say I am without inspiration. Anyhoo, thanks, I enjoyed our chat and now must go home and try to research the psychological import of "cross dressing." You don't suppose that could've been a traditional ensemble native to Albania? In any case, I'll rethink taking on Boris for preparations prior to Aug. 16th! So long all and not a word of the misidentification to Lucy, please.