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Posted by CFournier on Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:21 PM
Hello to all of you. Sorry for having been away so long. [:I]A cup of that black coffee for me...s'il vous plait.
I've been busy at work and my 6 years old engineer, (named Thomas!) had high fever and was sick for a few days. [xx(] I got him a Bachman Hogwart Express with 2 passenger cars ( a classic???) and he has been busy since then, switching with "Thomas, James, Annie and Clarabel", (hi, Nick!)[bow]
[C=:-)]BTW, my 51st birthday, this year, will be celebrated on july the 25 th.
As for "Classic trains", I have tried for weeks now to gather a good story or anecdote to tell you guys, but, unfortunately, in my youth I didn't travel much at all and the steam era was over by the time I was 4! [:D] I can remember tramways and trolley buses but that's it![;)] I do enjoy the stories that this learned congregation of Our Place's patrons deliver from time to time[bow] I was raised near a CP yard and saw many classic paint schemes and Alco and MLW locos run by me playing near the tracks.
I have to run now. I'll be back tonight to drive lil' Annie home...[:-^][;)]
Chris, stuck in a rainy north country...
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:36 PM
QUOTE: JimRCGMOPosted: 26 May 2005, 10:33:46
Good morning, Tom - decided I needed to pop in for a quick one before running my errands (which are before I go to work today at 1...). I'm not wild about beer, but if you have wine, I'll have a port - or if you don't, give me a run and Coke!

Didn't get through all the posts so it may be already decided, but my vote would be for place #1, just because I'm from the Midwest (Missouri), and that place, with the wide porches, looks more like Midwest to me.

Well, I'll try to make it back in later. BTW, my layout is freelance (fictional), in the late 1950's, connecting Cortez, CO and Shiprock, NM (and connects to D&RGW at Farmington, NM) and from there through the Chuska Mountains and down sort of paralleling the Navajo Reservation Road 191 southward until it connects to the (AT&SF) Santa Fe in Holbrook, AZ. Just starting on two 2'X4' modules which will later be part of a layout when I have a more permanent place than my apartment.

Blessings,

Jim in Cape Girardeau

[wow] Is it REALLY Cape Jim? [#welcome] to "Our" Place - and the first drink (port) is on the house ...... [tup] [;)]

Thanx for your vote - however - it closed in mid-April. Place #1 was the runaway winner - it was unanimous - you have good taste! [tup] [;)]

"Our" Place is for rail enthusiasts to talk about the "classic" trains that they've traveled aboard or simply know about. Not that we have a prohibition regarding model railroaders - we don't - but the gist is to keep on track with the "classics" - real OR model. How's that for a compromise? [tup] [;)]

I should mention to those of you who haven't done so, take a browse through "The Coffee Shop" over on the Model Railroads forum - some great interaction goes on over there as well as some helpful info and pictures. It's easy to get "lost" in time at the "Shop."

Thanx for the visit and I hope we see you 'round here soon ........ [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:30 AM
God mornin Y'all. That's Texan, my adopted state. I will partake of the light breakfast and sip on the French Blend coffee. Save the good stuff until later.

Tom- Our trip is all together. We plan to stay two mights in each of the following: Halifax, Sydney, Sackville, and Charlottetown. Are their any trains today on PEI?

Since we have a few juice freaks on board (me included) I thought I would spin a yarn about MATA. Mata has five operating trolley cars, the two PCCs, a charter dining car under restoration, and a few basket cases awaiting restoration. See our web page for all of the gory details. Do a search for McKinney Avenue Transit Authority as there are about 5 sites.

There used to be a free trolley in Fort Worth. It originally was built by Leonard's Department store to carry shoppers from the parking lot to their store. The line was about 1/2 mile long. Leonards are out of business, and Tandy Corp (Radio Shack) has their corporate offices at the site of the Leonards store and ran the trolley for workers and tennants in Tandy Center. Unfortunately Tandy decided to build a larger office building on the parking lot so the trolley was shut down.

The trolleys were former PCC cars which Tandy "modernized" to look like new boxy equipment including two headlights. Controls were at each end as the Tandy line was stub at both ends. Fortunately they were air conditioned. It tends to get a little hot in Texas during the summer. Tandy had 3-4 of the "modernized" PCCs. I do not know the exact number.

When they shut down we bought one of the trolleys plus a wealth of parts for them. We wanted to buy more, but the rivalry between Dallas and Fort Worth only let us buy one. We upgraded several items on the cars and reverted to the single headlight. We still kept the box like shape as parts were not available to revert to the PCC design. We call her Winny, as she looks like a Winnabago. Not true vintage, but air conditioned and has rubber inserts in the wheels for a smoother quieter ride.

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:33 AM
Good morning, Tom - decided I needed to pop in for a quick one before running my errands (which are before I go to work today at 1...). I'm [:O] not wild about beer, but if you have wine, I'll have a port - or if you don't, give me a run and Coke!

Didn't get through all the posts so it may be already decided, but my vote would be for place #1, just because I'm from the Midwest (Missouri), and that place, with the wide porches, looks more like Midwest to me. [:)]

Well, I'll try to make it back in later. BTW, my layout is freelance (fictional), in the late 1950's, connecting Cortez, CO and Shiprock, NM (and connects to D&RGW at Farmington, NM) and from there through the Chuska Mountains and down sort of paralleling the Navajo Reservation Road 191 southward until it connects to the (AT&SF) Santa Fe in Holbrook, AZ. Just starting on two 2'X4' modules which will later be part of a layout when I have a more permanent place than my apartment.

Blessings,

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:23 AM
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Morning gang! The end of the work week approaches and for those of us south of the 49th, Monday is a Holiday.

On this Memorial Day, it would be my guess that not very many Americans will be hard pressed to spend a moment or two in remembance of those who have given their lives for us all - whether they were military, police, fire fighters or any one else dedicated to public service. Additionally, the victims of the September 11th, 2001 attack on our country surely deserves extra special attention.

Now for the summary:

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 25 May 2005, 20:10:19
Hey Rob - forgot to tell you, but I checked out your photo album. Very nice!
Pretty good diversity of shots ......

For the guys who don't know how to access these photo sites - here's the easy way: When you see a photo on these forums that you are interested in, "right click" it - then "click" on "properties" - that will provide a URL - copy it and paste it on the address portion of your browser. That's it .......

Rob's album may be viewed at: http://www.railimages.com/albums/robertaustin

See y'all!
Tom


QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 25 May 2005, 20:26:46
Tom-will go look for Ted first,lets hope He`s just got locked in the shed again.....will get straight back to you,nick

Appreciate your help! I did try the shed ........ never again will I open that without having the environmental people here with their protective suits and equipment! [:(!]
Tom

QUOTE: Fergmiester Posted: 25 May 2005, 20:42:04
OK since I'm new here I guess I'll be buying How about "PinK Ladies" for everyone!

Not much on the go Nick invited me so now your stuck with me. I'll be getting off the ship tomorrow for the month so hopefully the weather will warm up and I'll get some gardening in!

So some of your photos of the trip Si, very impressive!

Anyway it will be a busy trip tomorrow so I'm going to hit the road or as they say in Quebec Frappe le rue

Later Gents
Fergie

Well, shiver me timbers [?], is that really YOU, Fergie? This IS a special treat for us all - having an active sailor join us in "Our" Place to hoist a tankard of three while spinning yarns of "classic" train lore ... ah yes, life is full of pleasant surprises. So, [#welcome], Fergie and enjoy this place while you imbibe a wee bit with our clientele.

Thanx, Nick for getting this guy off of the reef and into some shelter, no doubt between you and Boris, he'll NEVER forget his visit ...... [}:)]

Hey guys - if you haven't done so, check out Fergie's logo (herald) of his model railroad .... in my opinion the absolute best I've seen if not the most innovative design as well. Just scroll back a bit ..... you'll find it! [tup] [;)]

PINK LADIES you say? Sorry - about the only thing PINK in this joint would be an occasional glimpse of an "unmentionable" or three - sorry, this cyber bar 'n grill specializes in BEER - BOOZE - GREAT FOOD and lotsalaughs all the while (trying) to discuss "classic" trains ......... PINK - arggggggggggggh! [V][censored][oX)]

Anyway, the first drink 'round here is on the house for all newcomers ........ so, whatillyahave? (as they say in Missouri/Missourah .......)

Hope you stop by again to share some stories with us ...... [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 25 May 2005, 20:48:53
Message posted,reply awaited---bed time here,over to you, nick

Many thanx!
Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 25 May 2005, 22:33:55
Good evening everyone.
*** I'm glad that TO's PCC's are still out and about. It's not suprising that you didn,t see any when you were on your trip. The TTC has only two left and they are used for excursions only.If you get a group together (20 or more) Phone TTC and you can charter away the whole system is available so long as there is no construction. You can charter their one remaining Whitt (2766) as well but you need a large group as it cannot be on the system by itself. This is a sore point for Trolley fansbut it's a red tape thing. Because the Whitt is an air brake only car it must be lead and tailed by a car equiped with electric track brakes so either the PCC's or a CLRV ahead and behind. Anyway you slice it you need to have enough bodies to fill three cars and enough money to charter three and pay three operators. On a happier note our museum has something like a dozen ex TTC PCC's on property of all sub types and classes as well as a raft of parts. E-mail the museum if you guy's need parts or repair suggestions and help our shop guys are miracle workers. We have people regularly helping out Delson in PQ and the TTC if their Whitt needs attention. Were here to help.

Tom Thanks for the photo thumbs up, it's a nice ego boost.I e-mailed Ted last week as well and haven't got a response yet so I'm a biy worried about him myself,hopefully he's not too i'll or indisposed.

Passenger Al Here's another museum whitt shot for you.

Good night folks Rob

My pleasure! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 26 May 2005, 08:30:32
SPECIAL to TED
QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 26 May 2005, 05:01:10
Esteemed colleagues, Mesdemoiselles, please accept my profound apologies for such an unaccoutable lapse in communication. I pray you will grant me your kind indulgences when you are apprised of a situation I hoped would never need explanation.

The frivolous mention of a "summer cold," (my last post) was a shallow "smoke screen" for events taking a far more serious direction. Yesterday, imperative surgery on my right hand was performed at Bay Pines Veterans Medical Center (St. Pete, Fl) due to an accident back in 1996. Complications arose in glacier like movement to a "second" biopsy on the index finger of my right hand. This time, the results were positive for malanoma and it was neccessary to amputate the entire appendage. This drastic surgery is made with the hope of preventing any farther spread of cancer beyond. I am as much distressed bringing you this intelligence as taking the loss myself.

I will be following the events and misadventures of "Our" Place with the same dedication as before, but to my regret, with less participation . Just in a five day absence, there are far too many posts for commentary which actually may be just as well. The Hydrocodone Rx has reduced my already Jello like cerebral capabilities to that of a "loose" omelette (sorry for the inane analogy Nick).

And yes Nick, please forge ahead, with the dining arrangements for Rob and Spouse instead. Ruthy understands and is ameanable to the change.

Alas, that the former part of this missle were cyber and the latter of substance. Any rate, I am working on a quick adjustment for future, more frequent, participation. Until then Tom, a round for the house please and a "night cap" for Boris before he repairs to the shed for whatever evening formalities he may fancy. Nick, I had considered Wendy's chili but my culinary sensibilities forbid it. All in the bonds, I bid you "happy rails."
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Welcome back Ted .... Here's to a speedy recovery and an adjustment that will have you back at the keyboard real soon and often - Cheers!

As you can tell, many of your friends at "Our" Place missed you. Undoubtedly, Boris is happy - he's even changed over to a cleaner dirty white apron, just for you!

Take your time with the catching up, and of course it isn't necessary to respond to each and every "one liner" or message of substance. Stick around this place long enough, and some of those things will resurface. That's just the way it is in our cyber bar 'n grill!

By the way, that stool - right over there, is YOURS from this point on, as a token of our appreciation for your patronage!

See ya!
Tom

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Okay - remember, tonight is fish 'n chips night along with Nick's Picks for some specials he's conujured up ...... Pool tables are ready - juke box is loaded with hits from the "period" of "Our" Place - gals will be in, so all we need is YOU!

See ya soon! [tup] [;)]
Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:30 AM
SPECIAL to TED
QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 26 May 2005, 05:01:10
Esteemed colleagues, Mesdemoiselles, please accept my profound apologies for such an unaccoutable lapse in communication. I pray you will grant me your kind indulgences when you are apprised of a situation I hoped would never need explanation.

The frivolous mention of a "summer cold," (my last post) was a shallow "smoke screen" for events taking a far more serious direction. Yesterday, imperative surgery on my right hand was performed at Bay Pines Veterans Medical Center (St. Pete, Fl) due to an accident back in 1996. Complications arose in glacier like movement to a "second" biopsy on the index finger of my right hand. This time, the results were positive for malanoma and it was neccessary to amputate the entire appendage. This drastic surgery is made with the hope of preventing any farther spread of cancer beyond. I am as much distressed bringing you this intelligence as taking the loss myself.

I will be following the events and misadventures of "Our" Place with the same dedication as before, but to my regret, with less participation . Just in a five day absence, there are far too many posts for commentary which actually may be just as well. The Hydrocodone Rx has reduced my already Jello like cerebral capabilities to that of a "loose" omelette (sorry for the inane analogy Nick).

And yes Nick, please forge ahead, with the dining arrangements for Rob and Spouse instead. Ruthy understands and is ameanable to the change.

Alas, that the former part of this missle were cyber and the latter of substance. Any rate, I am working on a quick adjustment for future, more frequent, participation. Until then Tom, a round for the house please and a "night cap" for Boris before he repairs to the shed for whatever evening formalities he may fancy. Nick, I had considered Wendy's chili but my culinary sensibilities forbid it. All in the bonds, I bid you "happy rails."

Welcome back [#welcome] Ted .... Here's to a speedy recovery and an adjustment that will have you back at the keyboard real soon and often - Cheers! [swg]

As you can tell, many of your friends at "Our" Place missed you. Undoubtedly, Boris is happy - he's even changed over to a cleaner [?] dirty white apron, just for you!

Take your time with the catching up, and of course it isn't necessary to respond to each and every "one liner" or message of substance. Stick around this place long enough, and some of those things will resurface. That's just the way it is in our cyber bar 'n grill! [;)]

By the way, that stool - right over there, is YOURS from this point on, as a token of our appreciation for your patronage! [8D]

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:01 AM
Esteemed colleagues, Mesdemoiselles, please accept my profound apologies for such an unaccoutable lapse in communication. I pray you will grant me your kind indulgences when you are apprised of a situation I hoped would never need explanation. The frivolous mention of a "summer cold," (my last post) was a shallow "smoke screen" for events taking a far more serious direction. Yesterday, imperative surgery on my right hand was performed at Bay Pines Veterans Medical Center (St. Pete, Fl) due to an accident back in 1996. Complications arose in glacier like movement to a "second" biopsy on the index finger of my right hand. This time, the results were positive for malanoma and it was neccessary to amputate the entire appendage. This drastic surgery is made with the hope of preventing any farther spread of cancer beyond. I am as much distressed bringing you this intelligence as taking the loss myself.

I will be following the events and misadventures of "Our" Place with the same dedication as before, but to my regret, with less participation . Just in a five day absence, there are far too many posts for commentary which actually may be just as well. The Hydrocodone Rx has reduced my already Jello like cerebral capabilities to that of a "loose" omelette (sorry for the inane analogy Nick). And yes Nick, please forge ahead, with the dining arrangements for Rob and Spouse instead. Ruthy understands and is ameanable to the change. Alas, that the former part of this missle were cyber and the latter of substance. Any rate, I am working on a quick adjustment for future, more frequent, participation. Until then Tom, a round for the house please and a "night cap" for Boris before he repairs to the shed for whatever evening formalities he may fancy. Nick, I had considered Wendy's chili but my culinary sensibilities forbid it. All in the bonds, I bid you "happy rails."
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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:33 PM
Good evening everyone.*** I'm glad that TO's PCC's are still out and about. It's not suprising that you didn,t see any when you were on your trip. The TTC has only two left and they are used for excursions only.If you get a group together (20 or more) Phone TTC and you can charter away the whole system is available so long as there is no construction. You can charter their one remaining Whitt (2766) as well but you need a large group as it cannot be on the system by itself. This is a sore point for Trolley fansbut it's a red tape thing. Because the Whitt is an air brake only car it must be lead and tailed by a car equiped with electric track brakes so either the PCC's or a CLRV ahead and behind. Anyway you slice it you need to have enough bodies to fill three cars and enough money to charter three and pay three operators. On a happier note our museum has something like a dozen ex TTC PCC's on property of all sub types and classes as well as a raft of parts. E-mail the museum if you guy's need parts or repair suggestions and help our shop guys are miracle workers. We have people regularly helping out Delson in PQ and the TTC if their Whitt needs attention. Were here to help.Tom Thanks for the photo thumbs up, it's a nice ego boost.I e-mailed Ted last week as well and haven't got a response yet so I'm a biy worried about him myself,hopefully he's not too i'll or indisposed.Passenger Al Here's another museum whitt shot for you. Good night folks Rob
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:48 PM
Message posted,reply awaited---bed time here,over to you,nick
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Posted by Fergmiester on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:42 PM
OK since I'm new here I guess I'll be buying How about "PinK Ladies" for everyone!

Not much on the go Nick invited me so now your stuck with me. I'll be getting off the ship tomorrow for the month so hopefully the weather will warm up and I'll get some gardening in!

So some of your photos of the trip Si, very impressive!

Anyway it will be a busy trip tomorrow so I'm going to hit the road or as they say in Quebec Frappe le rue

Later Gents
Fergie

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:26 PM
Tom-will go look for Ted first,lets hope He`s just got locked in the shed again.....will get straight back to you,nick
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:10 PM
Hey Rob - forgot to tell you, but I checked out your photo album. Very nice!
Pretty good diversity of shots ......

For the guys who don't know how to access these photo sites - here's the easy way: When you see a photo on these forums that you are interested in, "right click" it - then "click" on "properties" - that will provide a URL - copy it and paste it on the address portion of your browser. That's it .......

Rob's album may be viewed at: http://www.railimages.com/albums/robertaustin

See y'all!
Tom
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:56 PM
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QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 25 May 2005, 10:19:01
A quick good morning all as I'm shortly out the door to work Passengerfan Glad you liked the shots ,you will be happy to know that small Whitt 2766 is back on the rails of TO(charters only) allot of restoration work a fair bit of it by us at the museum,she got an entire new steal floor so should now last another 80+ years.They keep two 4500 sereies PCC's for excursion work as well/ I'm posting a shot of 2766,4500 and our museums open car 327. This is on the coner of Queen&Bay for the 85th birthday parade of the TTC we lent them 327 for the day and she lead the parade of classic streetcars CLRV"S,ALRV's and buses. the usual speaches afterwards, etc , etc , etc. Have a good afternoon everyone. Rob

[;)] Hey Rob Don’t forget our light breakfast menu ……. Looks like you’re hooked on those picture downloads. Enjoy!

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: wrwatkinsPosted: 25 May 2005, 13:19:25
Just stopping in for a quick one and to spin a few more tales.

Have visited Toronto while attending an APTA/CUTA/UIPT joint convention. As many of yo know Toronto has an extensive street car system. I did not see any PCC cars, bud did ride on several of the "modern" versions of the PCC. Even saw a couple Grand Unions that encompass 16 switches and 16 diamonds. These are really rare today.

The highlight of our trip to Toronto was an excursion on the GO Transit green and white bilevels to Niagra Falls. We were on a 16 car train which had no problem loading in Toronto. Niagra Falls was a different story. The station there is a small country type of station that is in excellent repair (*AMTRAK pay attention). With the small station platforms the whole train could not be unloaded at once. It was done in groups of four cars with the train jogging between unloading groups. We were in the last set of cars and when I got off I scalled the train. The engine and the first three coaches were across the international bridge and in the United States.

The Bombardier cars are as ugly as can be, but they do haul the people (160). The Trinity Railway Express, which I was on the advisory committee for several years, has several. Most were bought from GO Transit and rebuilt. The cab cars were bought new from Bombardier.

The PCC cars from Toronto Transit have a soft place in my heart. I am also on the exec committee of McKinney Avenue Transit Authority (MATA), a 5 mile vintage trolley line on guess which street. We bought two of the TTC PCC cars and are storing them at DART's light rail service and inspection facility. As money becomes available they are slowly being rehabbed. We did have them regauged to 4'-8 1/2" track. We do not have them in service as MATA is a stub end line on one end without any way to turn the cars. The PCCs do not doo too well running in reverse for long distances. The other end of the trolley line circles a block and is ready for PCC service. We are working with the city to extend the line to the Arts District and have a loop to reverse the cars. All it takes is money and lots of booze after a meeting with the city fathers. I found out the meaning of the three martini lunch although i tend to hold off until I am home.

Hi *** – Whatillyahave?

Looks like we have lots of trolley fans aboard …. That’s fine with us – for if it runs on steel wheels on steel tracks, it qualifies for discussion ‘round here. “Classic” is in the eye of the story teller ……..

I’ve been seriously thinking of an overnight rail trip for myself on Amtrak – before whatever fate awaits them. The only such train coming through here is the “Texas Eagle” – which we’ve discussed by Email. I checked out the fares for a Dallas round trip – unbelievably expensive – in the ridiculous category for a bedroom WITH toilet facilities. I could fly to Montreal and ride the “Ocean” for the prices I saw. Given what you’ve gathered about my rail preferences … I’ll take VIA Rail any day, any time. Guess I’ll stick to day trips between here and Chicago or Kansas City in Business Class.

Be seeing ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwalesPosted: 25 May 2005, 19:16:04
Hey,Boss-just stopped in to do the `order` for the wet fish for ` Fish & Chip night at Our Plaice`,a shameless promotion.I`ll take a bottle whilst I`m here,yourself obviously,small glass for Boris,and better keep the Crown Royal handy for when the rest of them stumble in,

-just spoken to the fish man and he can do us a deal on some Skate wings I can do in black or brown butter sauce for a "nicks picks" special,plus the butcher had a line on some veal for some authentic schnitzels,if politically correct,

Have arranged with Boris that he will do the bar meals on friday whilst I cook for Ted & Ruthie,----Hoping that Chris might let Anne off of his motorcycle long enough to sit and eat as well sometime.......

Well,I`m feeling very pleased with myself--intensive burst of applied energy=2 sq yds of baseboard scenicked to "just needs people,barrels & clutter"stage of development also bass player from band came to call and was "blown away" by layout,having not seen it before,sometimes life is good................................nick

Evening Nick – Have one on me while you’re taking care of business ….
Our Thursday fish ‘n chips has taken on a new look, thanx to you! Talkiing “classic” trains, drinking and dining on some fine kitchen specials surely has made Thursday’s special. Good job! Now, Fridays we have our pizza night, along with my steak & fries. I’ll give Bors a go with the steaks, but I do the pizza (1940’s New York style). No problems with anything else for Nick’s Picks [tup] [;)]

It’s always a good feelling when someone makes a positive comment about your layout. I certainly didn’t enter into my project with accolades in mind, but when they come, they do a lot for the ego – and that’s not all bad. I recall when I posted my Can-Am pix over on “The Coffee Shop” just how blown away I got with the positive responses ….. first time ever for me. To be complimented by those in the hobby sort of makes you feel as if you’ve “arrived.”

By the way, you’ve made mention of two customers who we haven’t seen around here for awhile – Ted and Chris. Suggestion: Why don’t we send them Emails encouraging them to stop in. I know Ted indicted he wasn’t feelling well – but that was about 5 days ago. Anyway, just browse back through the pages – “click” on their site names and the Email capability will come up. Just a thought …….

See y'all later! [tup] [;)]
Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:16 PM
Hey,Boss-just stopped in to do the `order` for the wet fish for ` Fish & Chip night at Our Plaice`,a shameless promotion.I`ll take a bottle whilst I`m here,yourself obviously,small glass for Boris,and better keep the Crown Royal handy for when the rest of them stumble in,-just spoken to the fish man and he can do us a deal on some Skate wings I can do in black or brown butter sauce for a "nicks picks" special,plus the butcher had a line on some veal for some authentic schnitzels,if politically correct, Have arranged with Boris that he will do the bar meals on friday whilst I cook for Ted & Ruthie,----Hoping that Chris might let Anne off of his motorcycle long enough to sit and eat as well sometime.......Well,I`m feeling very pleased with myself--intensive burst of applied energy=2 sq yds of baseboard scenicked to "just needs people,barrels & clutter"stage of development also bass player from band came to call and was "blown away" by layout,having not seen it before,sometimes life is good................................nick
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:19 PM
Just stopping in for a quick one and to spin a few more tales.

Have visited Toronto while attending an APTA/CUTA/UIPT joint convention. As many of yo know Toronto has an extensive street car system. I did not see any PCC cars, bud did ride on several of the "modern" versions of the PCC. Even saw a couple Grand Unions that encopmass 16 switches and 16 diamonds. These are really rare today.

The highlight of our trip to Toronto was an excursion on the GO Transit green and white bilevels to Niagra Falls. We were on a 16 car train which had no problem loading in Toronto. Niagra Falls was a different story. The station there is a small country type of station that is in excellant repair (*AMTRAK pay attention). With the small station platforms the whole train could not be unloaded at once. It was done in groups of four cars with the train jogging between unloading groups. We were in the last set of cars and when I got off I scalled the train. The engine and the first three coaches were across the international bridge and in the United States.

The Bombardier cars are as ugly as can be, but they do haul the people (160). The Trinity Railway Express, which I was on the advisory committee for several years, has several. Most were bought from GO Transit and rebuilt. The cab cars were bought new from Bombardier.

The PCC cars from Toronto Transit have a soft place in my heart. I am also on the exec committee of McKinney Avenue Transit Authority (MATA), a 5 mile vintage trolley line on guess which street. We bought two of the TTC PCC cars and are storing them at DART's light rail service and inspection facility. As money becomes available they are slowly being rehabbed. We did have them regauged to 4'-8 1/2" track. We do not have them in service as MATA is a stub end line on one end without any way to turn the cars. The PCCs do not doo too well running in reverse for long distances. The other end of the trolley line circles a block and is ready for PCC service. We are working with the city to entend the line to the Arts District and have a loop to reverse the cars. All it takes is money and lots of boose after a meeting with the city fathers. I found out the meaning of the three martini lunch although i tend to hold off until I am home.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:19 AM
A quick good morning all as I'm shorly out the door to work[sigh] Passengerfan Glad you liked the shots ,you will be happy to know that small Whitt 2766 is back on the rails of TO(charters only) allot of restoration work a fair bit of it by us at the museum,she got an entire new steal floor so should now last another 80+ years.They keep two 4500 sereies PCC's for excursion work as well/ I'm posting a shot of 2766,4500 and our museums open car 327. This is on the coner of Queen&Bay for the 85th birthday parade of the TTC we lent them 327 for the day and she lead the parade of classic streetcars CLRV"S,ALRV's and buses. the usual speaches afterwards, etc , etc , etc. Have a good afternoon everyone. Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:01 AM
Good morning all! A new day - a fresh start - and some light breakfasts on the menu .... whatillya have?

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QUOTE: wrwatkins
Posted: 24 May 2005, 15:03:22
Welcome back from the Maritimes, Tom. As we have discussed off line we are going to be taking the same trip the first two weeks in August. We have been wanting to visit the Maritimes for several years and your travelogues pushed us over the edge.

Better pour me a strong one before I continue. Make that Plymouth gin over ice with a twist. Better yet make it a double.

As Tom said getting everything pulled together with VIA is tough. Had to coordinate airplane flights, hotels, and VIA to get what we wanted. Thanks for the info about phasing out the Budd cars. I had to hunt to find VIA's phone number, but finally reached a real human who told me which days the Park cars would be running. Had to adjust our tentative schedule one day to get the Park cars. Unfortunately cabin "D" is occupied for the trip to Halifax, but we did get it for the return. I will do a travelogue and post some pictures after our trip.

Noted another thread about the full length dome cars that SP had on their coast line. This brought back many good memories of riding the coast line. Between 1972 and 1974 we lived in Ventura California, which is about 35 miles south of Santa Barbra. For fun we would catch the Amtrak northbound train in Oxnard, which is directly south of Ventura across the Santa Clara river. The train would leave about 11 AM for a 55 minute run to Santa Barbara. This was in the days before Caltrans and the only trains were one Amtrak train in each direction per day. Santa Barbara was as far north as you could go and still catch the southbound train the same day. This gave us 4 hours in beautiful Santa Barbara shopping or walking the beach before the 4 PM departure. Just about enough time to empty your wallet in town as they had many places where you could part with your dough.

The highlight of the trip was Summerland beach a couple miles south of Santa Barbara. This beach was over one mile from the highway and developed into a nudist beach. Almost daily there would be a female standing along the track with her hands cupped behind her head for all of the passengers to view her wares. It was hard to cover the eyes of our children when we were passing the beach. Amtrak in their unofficial advertising referred to the train as "The only X-rated train in America". I do not know if the beach is still being used for this purpose, as it is over 30 years since we rode the train.

Better pour me another for the road.

Hello again *** – glad you stopped by. Happy to learn that your vacation plans are taking shape. I know you will enjoy your trip, especially aboard the Budd cars and in the Park Car observation dome.

Perhaps some clarification is in order regarding VIA Rail reservations ….. so this is for anyone who may be contemplating a trip with them. The web site, www.viarail.ca contains just about everything you will require in order to become familiar with their services. Lots of “places” to click on, etc. The reservation feature is fine EXCEPT when you have some questions – then you are far better communicating by phone. For example, the inexperienced will most probably never figure out how to determine when the Budd equipment is on the line for the “Ocean.” That’s far better handled by phone. Also, requesting a particular bedroom in a specified car is also something that must be handled by phone. So, rather than leave the impression that VIA Rail is difficult or problematic to work with, I’d rather have it known that you do have options when it comes to making those reservations – or simply inquiring about this or that. I’ve NEVER been “turned off” by any of those fine folks at the Moncton Reservation Centre – not once. Hope this helps ………

During my final assignment in southern California, I never rode the trains – not once. The reason was rather simple, I seemed to be out of the country more than in it and when I was stateside, my activities involved helicopter or sea transportation. Just the nature of the “business” I was in. Sure would have liked to have traveled those California Amtrak’s …….. Anyway, my one and only California originated trip was as a kid – somewhere backing 1947-48, when my father put me aboard a train bound for NYC from LA. It was a Santa Fe “Chief” – but at that stage of my life, and so far back in time, I surely don’t recall the full name or make up of the cars. I was in a bedroom and attended to by the train staff – seemingly all the time. I do recall being up in the domes and having meals in the diner. Also, there was a change of trains in Chicago, and I remember being taken to the Pennsy platform for the NY bound train. Ah, memories …….. sure happy to have ‘em!

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: wrwatkins
Posted: 24 May 2005, 15:30:12
Tom - A belated Happy Birthday to you. Mine is coming up on July 15. I will not say how old I am but I was born in 1940. Do the math. Plan to retire at the end of March 2006. This will permit maxing out Social Security and to get the year end reports complete. I work for an oil and gas consulting company and thanks to Sarbanes-Oxley we do the reserves for numerous oil companies and they all want them as of December 31. It has been a fun ride as a consultant having traveled to 5 continents over the years and viewed many trains of various types. I am going to miss the fun of the job after i hang up my hat next spring.

Say, I missed lunch. Please have the Chef make me up a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich. and give me another Molson if you brought a few back from our northern neighbor. That should be good for an extra dose of lipitor.

Back so soon! Great …. Thanx for the best wishes ..... Okay, the 2005 Birthday Watch List has been updated – 2005 Birthday Watch List has three: May 18th (Tom - 67) – July 15th (*** – 65) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34)

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwales
Posted: 24 May 2005, 17:28:38
Tom,Hi-an ice cold bottle for me please,plus one for yourself,a small glass of shandy for Boris and a round for the boys when they arrive, ahhh,lovely ,thankyou.

Right,where`s that note...Damascene-biblical reference, St. Paul’s (?) conversion on road to Damascus,unless I`ve spelt it wrong in which case it`s"similar to damask"( a fabric). I.P.A-a relic from the shameful days of the British Raj-India Pale Ale,brewed to mature in the cask during the sea voyage from home to keep the troops supplied. Joint Running-once the decision was made to cross the water,all `inappropriate` stock removed,-I tried them together once only...

3 hours work managed today on ongoing scenery conversion,will have to look again in daylight but pleased so far.

right,thats me for the road, nick

Hello Nick – Thanx for the clarifications – seems I’m slipping in my advancing years … I shudda known those things! “Somewhere” back in the recesses, I recall the conversion … just a shade of a memory. I.P.A.? Well, that’s an abbreviation I could have spent years trying to figure out! Shame on me.

One nice thing about doing scenery is that however it turns out, IF it pleases YOU, that’s all that matters. If it doesn’t no harm, no foul – it’s a “do over.”
Wouldn’t it be nice if life were so easy?

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 24 May 2005, 21:11:41
Evening all,

Once again, I prepared replies to all recent posts and they disappeared - second night in succession! This is getting to me ..... So, time to do something else.

See y'all tomorrow!

Tom


QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 24 May 2005, 23:25:29
Good evening everyone.Tom I will try to entice some of the other regulars over here,I'm sure if they give us a try they will keep comming back if for no other reason but to keep up with the continuing antics of barboy Boris.As for the photo's I seem to have not saved them thus the reason I could not find them to upload I have since rescanned and saved. Now the railimages account is not bare. I invite everyone to take a peak. A lot of museum shots but some other classics and not so classics to enjoy as well. Please take a look and let me know what you think. Now kids Brantford's Via station a nice classic GT station built round about 1912 and still heavilly used today.by via A small Whitt #2894 entering the east loop at our museum this shot is circa 1991 so a few years before I joined, however this is a car that I do love to operate. Hope we see some pictures and not just the red "x" of death. More later Rob

Nice job, Rob I KNEW you could do it! Fun stuff (when it works! [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboy
Posted: 24 May 2005, 23:30:53
Hey drinks for me she worked captain she worked!!!! Tempting fate here's another classic This is former Toronto Hamilton and buffalo NW2 #51 Owned now by shortline Ontario Southland serving several CN and CP spurs in ontario. This shot is in St Thomas Ontario at the Elgin county rail museum. This loco is assigned to an ex CN spur in St Thomas and still runs on it's original prime mover. Rob

Okay – set ‘em up Boris! Thanx, Rob [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: passengerfanPosted: 25 May 2005, 01:46:08
Trolleyboy, The picture of the Peter Whitt of the TTC brings back memories of when I lived in Toronto. We used to have all day runs using a Peter Whitt operating over the Dundas, Queen, and King St. Lines. We always requested a particular TTC operator for these trips his nickname was boom boom Charlie. I believe his actual name was Charlie Price. The nickname came about when a certain lady was testifying in court about an accident he had with a streetcar in Toronto. It seems she was running alongside the street car on Dundas St. When she said the streetcar ran into the side of her car twice thus the boom boom. The lady swore the streetcar left the rails and hit her car twice. The court erupted in laughter and the Magistrate threw out the case.

Another incident with Charlie occurred on one of the Peter Whitt outings when we were traveling across Queen St and he stopped at a loading island for a particularly attractive lady and after climbing aboard she asked Charlie if the went to college (st). which was about a half mile ahead and Charlie replied no lady this is a full time job.

Those were the good old days in Toronto all PCCs running and the one Peter Whitt held for specials. I was their when the new streetcars arrived and I must say I never rode one somehow they didn't have the appeal of the PCCs.

Great stories, passengerfan Al Just the kinds of things one picks up on while traveling on those steel rails ……. [tup] [;)]

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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:46 AM
Trolleyboy, The picture of the Peter Whitt of the TTC brings back memories of when I lived in Toronto. We used to have all day runs using a Peter Whitt operating over the Dundas, Queen, and King St. Lines. We always requested a particular TTC operator for these trips his nickname was boom boom Charlie. I believe his actual name was Charlie Price. The nickname came about when a certain lady was testifying in court about an accident ahe had with a streetcar in Toronto. It seems she was running alongside the street car on Dundas St. When she said the streetcar ran into the side of her car twice thus the boom boom. The lady swore the streetcar left the rails and hit her car twice. The court erupted in laughter and the Magistrate threw out the case.
Another incident with Charlie occured on one of the Peter Whitt outings when we were traveling across Queen St and he stopped at a loading island for a particulary attractive lady and after climbing aboard she asked Charlie if the went to college (st). which was about a half mile ahead and Chaerlie replied no llady this is a full time job. Those were the good old days in Toronto all PCCs running and the one Peter Whitt held for specials. I was their when the new streetcars arrived and I must say I never rode one somehow they didn't have the appeal of the PCCs.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:30 PM
Hey drinks for me she worked captain she worked!!!! Tempting fate here's another classic This is former Toronto Hamilton and buffalo NW2 #51 Owned now by shortline Ontario Southland serving several CN and CP spurs in ontario. This shot is in St Thomas Ontario at the Elgin county rail museum. This loco is assigned to an ex CN spur in St Thomas and still runs on it's original prime mover. Rob
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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:25 PM
Good evening everyone.Tom I will try to entice some of the other regulars over here,I'm sure if they give us a try they will keep comming back if for no other reason but to keep up with the continuing antics of barboy Boris.As for the photo's I seem to have not saved them thus the reason I could not find them to upload[banghead][#wstupid] I have since rescanned and saved. Now the railimages account is not bare. I invite everyone to take a peak. Allot of museum shots but some other classics and not so classics to enjoy as well. Please take a look and let me know what you think. Now kids Brantford's Via station a nice classic GT station built round about 1912 and still heavilly used today.by via A small Whitt #2894 entering the east loop at our museum this shot is circa 1991 so a few years before I joined, however this is a car that I do love to operate. Hope we see some pictures and not just the red "x" of death. More later Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:11 PM
Evening all,

Once again, I prepared replies to all recent posts and they disappeared - second night in succession! This is getting to me ..... So, time to do something else.

See y'all tomorrow!

Tom
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:28 PM
Tom,Hi-an ice cold bottle for me please,plus one for yourself,a small glass of shandy for Boris and a round for the boys when they arrive, ahhh,lovely ,thankyou. Right,where`s that note...Damascene-biblical reference, st pauls(?) conversion on road to Damascus,unless I`ve spelt it wrong in which case it`s"similar to damask"( a fabric). I.P.A-a relic from the shameful days of the British Raj-India Pale Ale,brewed to mature in the cask during the sea voyage from home to keep the troops supplied. Joint Running-once the decision was made to cross the water,all `inappropriate` stock removed,-I tried them together once only...3 hours work managed today on ongoing scenery conversion,will have to look again in daylight but pleased so far. right,thats me for the road,nick
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:30 PM
Tom-
A belated Happy Birthday to you. Mine is coming up on July 15. I will not say how old I am but I was born in 1940. Do the math. Plan to retire at the end of March 2006. This will permit maxing out Social Security and to get the year end reports complete. I work for an oil and gas consulting company and thanks to Sarbanes-Oxley we do the reserves for numerous oil companies and they all want them as of December 31. It has been a fun ride as a consultant having traveled to 5 continents over the years and viewed many trains of various types. I am going to miss the fun of the job after i hang up my hat next spring.

Say, I missed lunch. Please have the Chef make me up a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich. and give me another Molson if you brought a few back from our northern neighbor. That should be good for an extra dose of lipitor.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:03 PM
Welcome back from the Maratimes, Tom. As we have discussed off line we are going to be taking the same trip the first two weeks in August. We have been wanting to visit the Maratimes for several years and your travelogues pushed us over the edge.

Better pour me a strong one before I continue. Make that Plymouth gin over ice with a twist. Better yet make it a double.

As Tom said getting everything pulled together with VIA is tough. Had to coordinate airplane flights, hotels, and VIA to get what we wanted. Thanks for the info about phasing out the Budd cars. I had to hunt to find VIA's phone number, but finally reached a real human who told me which days the Park cars would be running. Had to adjust our tentative schedule one day to get the Park cars. Unfortunately cabin "D" is occupied for the trip to Halifax, but we did get it for the return. I will do a travelogue and post some pictures after our trip.

Noted another thread about the full length dome cars that SP had on their coast line. This brought back many good memories of riding the coast line. Between 1972 and 1974 we lived in Ventura California, which is about 35 miles south of Santa Barbra. For fun we would catch the Amtrak northbound train in Oxnard, which is directly south of Ventura across the Santa Clara river. The train would leave about 11 AM for a 55 minute run to Santa Barbara. This was in the days before Caltrans and the only trains were one Amtrak train in each direction per day. Santa Barbara was as far north as you could go and still catch the southbound train the same day. This gave us 4 hours in beautiful Santa Barbara shopping or walking the beach before the 4 PM departure. Just about enough time to empty your wallet in town as they had many places where you could part with your dough.

The highlight of the trip was Summerland beach a couple miles south of Santa Barbara. This beach was over one mile from the highway and developed into a nudist beach. Almost daily there would be a female standing along the track with her hands cupped behind her head for all of the passengers to view her wares. It was hard to cover the eyes of our children when we were passing the beach. Amtrak in their unofficial advertising referred to the train as "The only X-rated train in America". I do not know if the beach is still being used for this purpose, as it is over 30 years since we rode the train.

Better pour me another for the road.
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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:46 PM
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QUOTE: passengerfanPosted: 23 May 2005, 22:26:59
Good evening all time for a Crown Royal with water back and another round for the house.
Tom, you mentioned backing into stations didn't seem very railroad like . Remember the old Rock Island Twin Star Rocket between Minneapolis and Houston. The train always backed into Des Moines Station southbound and backed out northbound. Last time I rode the train it backed in both northbound and southbound never thought to ask why they changed the procedure that had been in place for so long.
Well just thought I would toss that into the fire. I wonder how many other stations besides St. Louis where everything backed in their were. I don't remeber any others off hand but I'm sure their had to be others?

Hello passengerfan Al Here’s what I said (trip report IV)
QUOTE: Thursday morning found me sitting in the dome at about 5 AM (EDST) as the train backed into the station at Charny, Quebec. I guess I’ll never get used to this backing in, backing out business – and yes, it is railroading – but somewhere in my “socialization” regarding railroads, trains are supposed to pull in and pull out. As I thought about this quirk of mine, it occurred to me that even my model railroad “empire” requires backing in or out amongst the 8 consists of passenger cars accommodated at my Can-Am Union Station. Oh well ….. In a perfect world, it surely would be different!
No dispute that trains did and do back in …. Just a “thing” with me ……
The selling off of right-of-way certainly has promoted more and more of the backing in situations, which may account for your experience in Des Moines.

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 24 May 2005, 01:11:13
Good evenong everyone. Rather overstuffed from our Victoria day BBQ so I'm keeping this short tonight. Tom thanks for the help don't be suprised if I drop you a pianed e-mail or two(still haven't found the pictures that I scanned) BTW lovely shots of your trip,sad to hear about our continuing labour day woes.Assuming that the before mentioned problems derail us this time out there is always next year. I prefer to be a "The glass is half full type of person" It's too bad too I had scanned a couple of good shots of Brantfords VIA station and some of the action around it, and a shot or two of a certain aircraft our friend Fergie likes to borrow from time to time. Well good night all i'll check in tomorrow. Rob

Rob Those scanned pix ARE in your hard drive – it’s just a matter of where. This scenario has happened to me and it can (and does) drive one to drink. [banghead] (That’s what “Our” Place is for!)
We WILL rendezvous – if not in 2005, then for sure in 2006!
Speaking of our friends over at the “Shop,” while a few have stopped by, seems that the “regulars” are somewhat hesitant. Why not extend the invitation? I’ve done it several times .... but perhaps coming from a few others, it would get ‘em to come by. We’re not talking competition here, but surely some of these guys have REAL train stories to share with us and undoubtedly some of the “classic” variety.

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: passengerfanPosted: 24 May 2005, 07:23:18
Tom Just time for Coffee and a Bismarck !

Just wanted to say the more I look at those pictures of the Budd Park cars I for one find it hard to believe thay are celebrating their fifty-first birthday this year. It was 1954 when the CPR received the Park cars and they first entered service on the Dominion. And today marks the fifty year one month anniversary of the CANADIAN April 24, 1955. How could I have misssed mentioning it last month.

The cars gathered in Montreal as they were delivered from Budd and finally someone in upper management decided that the passenger yard space was more valuable than holding all of the cars for the inaugural of the CANADIAN so the cars actually entered service on the DOMINION first. This train was the premier CPR train across Canada at the time and would be relegated to secondary train when then CANADIAN entered service.

The DOMINION was a mixture of heavyweights and the new lightweights with each dominion assigned a Budd Baggage Crew Dormitory, Skyline Dome Coach Chateau, Manor and Park car. All other cars in the DOMINION were heavyweight or earlier streamlined cars built by the CPR itself.

The ATLANTIC LIMITED was never assigned a Park car until VIA operated the service.

Hi again passengerfan Al Don’t fret – I mentioned the 50th Anniversary of “The Canadian” on this thread and also over on “Canadian Passenger Railroads, Let’s Talk!” …… Oh what I would give for a trip back in time, ride “The Canadian” one way, and “The Dominion” the other. (Then of course have another “go” with that Cheerleader in high school …….

As I’ve indicated previously, my experiences with Canadian passenger railroads are all since the inception of VIA Rail. We had the opportunity of traveling the “Atlantic” (they no longer referred to it as “The Atlantic Limited” once VIA Rail took over). Anyway, it was a treat to go eastbound on the “Atlantic” and make the return on the “Ocean.” Park Car domes, rule the day!

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: KenLarsenPosted: 24 May 2005, 07:57:50
Good Morning, ClassicFans -

Just stopping in for my morning caffeine charge, can't stay long as I'm now "on the clock."

Tom, enjoyed the chat Monday evening, best of luck getting that web site up and running on Geocities - I'm sure you'll have quite a bit of fun with it!

I've heard an unconfirmable rumour that the Maryland Dept of Transp. plans to start running MARC commuter trains on the former B&O Old Main Line - very interesting, since no passenger trains have been operated there since the mid-1950's. Perhaps that is why they are replacing all the track that has been there sine the late 1940's?

Later....

Hi Ken – I enjoyed the phone call as well …. Thanx for the help! I got the site up and running – but of course just in the preliminary stages. As you said it would be – it’s a piece of cake (my paraphrase!).

Anytime there’s a startup for steel wheels on steel tracks it’s got to be good news. I’ll bet with a little digging, one could find out what’s going on along that right-of-way. Why not post the question on the forums?

Oh yes – before I totally forget, the “Ruthie” countdown is beginning! Let’s have some fun with this ……..

See ya! [tup] [;)]
Tom

QUOTE: coalminer3
Posted: 24 May 2005, 08:14:28

Fill the thermos and on our way...

Re passengerfan's post: One station that had lots of backup (and head in moves as well) was Louisville. C&O backed in as well as L&N and PRR (depending on which direction they were heading upon departure.) Wish I had my pictures handy as somewhere in the "stack of stuff" is a group of color shots of the the "George Washington" and the "Pan American," both having backed into the station at Louisville. George was getting ready to head out to DC and the Pan was on its way to New Orleans. The "South Wind" was not running that day or I would have had a trifecta (gotta use them horse words when we talk about Louisville). John Droege's book Passenger Terminals and Trains has lots of track plans for stub end and stub on wye terminals in various U.S. cities; fascinating stuff, especially when you can find photos to go with the track plans; that's what the old ICC valuation study pictures are good for.

Road trip coming up (taking the heathinistics, i.e. school class trip) to Williamsburg. Will be back after Memorial Day. Have a good one and don't forget to take some time to reflect on what this holiday is all about.

work safe

Hi coalminer3 Freshly brewed coffee all set to go ….. one of these evenings, you’ve got to stop by and “imbibe a bit” with the guys …… all work and no play, you know the rest …….

Looks like I started “something” with that backing up commentary …. Nevertheless, it just doesn’t seem right – never has, never will – BUT that surely doesn’t imply it hasn’t happened or isn’t happening right now. Railroading is a lot like ship handling, you do what you gotta do …….

“Ditto” on the Memorial Day advice …. Enjoy your trip and we’ll be looking for you upon your return! [tup] [;)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:49 PM
A NICK SUMMARY
QUOTE: nickinwestwalesPosted: 23 May 2005, 14:34:44
Hi Tom,just a quick "livener" whilst she`s at the gym,Pilsner for me tonight please,not forgetting an Alexanders for your good self.

-Had in fact read back through post,but felt that my note left me without anything left to say,for once. So,where was I,ah yes-Nazareth-brilliant!!!! they and Alex Harvey & his band are for, my money, the finest Scotland has produced bar none!

Have spoken at length with Boris (no easy task as you know) and after much confusion,a few tears and the bare minimum of violent co-ercion a compromise has been reached. He will appear for work in appropriate Chefs attire at all times,this is to be removed fortnightly for de-contamination purposes during which time he will remain in the shed. What he wears under his whites will remain his own perogative. He is NOT to approach the track gang for any more "traditional local welcomes" ( I`ll be speaking to you lot later about that-and the state of the washrooms on sunday *@#~$$$%£!!!!!!!) Finally,he is not to stir the draught beer with his finger "To mix in all the goodness"..right,Trains!!..

I remembered...I`m working in HO,although G would be a lottery dream My only large scale models are two part built 3.5inch gauge live steamers which I inherited some years ago. I have no hopes of finishing them myself but there is a lad in the village who rebuilds the real thing for a living,negotiations are ongoing............

Back to the HO-I have the run of a 16x10 ft summerhouse at the end of the garden with a round the walls stacked onto 4 levels with rather more double run through of scenes than I would like. The origins of the system and the rationale behind it may merit brief amplification

-ah she`s back, back soon for part two..........later,nick

Nick Afaid I’m unfamiliar with Alex Harvey [?]…. Actually, I’m unfamiliar wth just about any of today’s Rock groups, regardless of where their homeports are. Icons, yeah – sure can’t forget those – and Nazareth only through the connection with my son. I do recall a hit or two …. But that was about it.

Appreciate the effort with Boris …. To say he’s a piece of work is an understatement. He’s flushed the gals out more than once, and I’ll tell you, it gets lots of attention at the bar (not to mention the lady’s room!). Good luck! When he handled the bar in a pinch over the weekend, I tried to explain that the “bone” was to skim the foam from the draft (draught) – he thought it was a tongue depressor! Definitely YOURS to control.

I only thought of large scales for you given the distances you mentioned in a previous note – I was thinking “reality” and you were talking “scale.” I’ve never seen a 4 level layout … intriguing to say the least. And yes, G gauge is awfully pricey – but then again, this hobby ain’t necessarily for the faint of heart these days!

Awaiting Part 2 ……..
Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwalesPosted: 23 May 2005, 17:52:26
Right,Her Majesty has retired for the night,the court & commons may go about their tasks. Same again for me please Tom and how about trying one of these bottled Worthingtons i ordered in. It`s an I.P.A,but with a much lighter flavour than draught (cask) I.P.A`s. When I worked bars in London it was quite often served with a half of keg,in a pint glass to take off the `twang` off of the keg.

O.K, back to the tale,where was I.....ah yes. First off,confession time,until 5 years or so ago,I had had no exposure to modelling outside of U.K prototypes,have amassed a collection of 30+ steamers,handful of diesels,40+ pass cars & 100+ freight cars,all British OO,mostly by Tri-Ang and Triang/Hornby but with a liberal salting of most other makers of the time.

To give them all something to do,I was building a representation of the much-mourned Bath to Bournemouth secondary main line (-the Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway, a route which in it`s latter days,played host to locos from all corners of the country, the original `prototype for anything` ) but was finding burnout a problem. Arrival of daughter in Nov 2000 put full stop to any modelling at all.

Arrival of my sister on visit home from Toronto for Xmas provided unexpected Damascene moment---Bachman C.N. freight set-F9 (as I later discovered),couple of cars,caboose,track`n`pack..........................well,looks kinda silly with just 2 cars,hmmmmmmmmmmm.....................................

2002-all British stock now in storage,large numbers of C.N,C.P plus many almost randomly purchased U.S. road cars now looking very silly on a layout where almost all the buildings have obvious Brit origins,signalled for left-hand running,.................

2nd Damascene moment---Model Railroad Planning,2002-page 61,Steam around Allandale. For those without a copy to hand,this describes the route from Toronto north,round the west side of Lake Simcoe and on eventually,to North Bay. Some research suggested that the juxtaposition of the key features on this route could be superimposed onto the existing layout-or enough to satisfy rule #1 at any rate. As an added bonus,sister has lived in Toronto,Newmarket & New Liskeard-all stations on the line.

2005-intermitant intervals spent in train shed during prev. 3 yrs starting to show-barely keeping pace with decay,little or no forward progress,however,daughter starting to approach age of reason requiring slightly less supervision,aquisition of computer allowing contact with the wider world,specifically,the guys on these forums and the O.N.R site,providing much needed `shot in the arm`---once again wheels are turning,track repairs continue apace

( P.S.-I need to speak to you about a loan of the track gang),buildings and scenery are starting to re-appear,some with a heavy "Maple Leaf makeover" from their former lives. and guess what...? It`s fun again,just like when I was a kid with the first few Tri-Ang trains,you start off running anything with anything `cos you dont know any better,but you know youre gonna have lots of fun climbing the learning curve...................

Right,I`m off to check on Boris and do the orders,Tom please feel free to use editorial blue pencil here,vol 3,if required,will describe the actual layout. Another bottle to take back with me please Tom,and same again yourself,later,nick

Nick That Worthingtons is strong stuff! Two of those and it would be easier to plant me under than carry me out! By the way, what’s an “I.P.A.”? Also, haven’t ever come across the term, “Damascene” – looked it up and there are several definitions … another clarification, please ………[?]

This hobby of ours has a few nice characteristics that life itself doesn’t always provide. For instance, YOUR railroad can be anything YOU want it to be in any place or time frame desired. So, screw ‘em all, but for six, save those for Pall Bearers! (A credo of mine from my seagoing days …….. arghhhhh! [oX)])

I cannot envision a consist of freights or passenger cars as a mixture of Brit and North American rolling stock. Neverthless, if it works for YOU – that’s kind of what it’s all about. My Can-Am layout is MINE – the time, place and rolling stock has some relevance, in that I try to model and run that which I can relate to – as in having traveled aboard the cars (freights are the exception …..). When I run something that is dated – I call it a “special” or a “excursion” – anything to place a bit of legitimacy to the run. One can go absolutely bonkers with the hobby ….

I don’t have the MRR Planning edition you mentioned, but I think the idea has come across – thanx. And yes – having fun makes it all worthwhile. My advice: never, ever, let a hobby become an obsession. If one does, then it’s no longer a hobby!

Borrow the “track gang,” you say? Borrow? Hmmmmmm – what do you suppose they will have to say about this? Exactly what do you have in mind? [}:)]

Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwalesPosted: 23 May 2005, 20:02:26
Well,it`s been a quiet one so far boss,better set `em up again and I`ll wedge open the door and throw a few coins in the juke---

just scrolled back and `found` your last update-didnt you have that pair of locos on the outbound trip ?-does the whole set lay over for a few days or did you chance upon them on a repeat visit ? Fine reportage by the way,photo`s also top drawer.....always been more of a `blue with the stripes` fan in my limited exposure but that silver finish suits those Park cars extraordinarily well-I may have to take a fresh look at my model power obs car..........

right,here come the sounds,Take 5 performed by the Oscar Peterson Trio to start,smartly followed by Ball & Chain from Janis Joplin,then a whole load from the Campfire Tapes,by Michelle Shocked (which I would warmly recommend to all) and Misguided Angel by the Cowboy Junkies (`cos my Missis sings it perfectly and I love the high-capo open `G` guitar tuning that makes it sound like a mandolin ) to close.....

well,it`s getting late at this end of the counter,give the boys a drink on me when they finally show up,sweet dreams to one and all,nick..

P.S.-almost forgot,love the logo idea,will give it serious thought-The S+DJR armorial crest was in some very familiar blue & gold/yellow shades....................


QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 23 May 2005, 21:07:15
Evening NickI just had a rather long reply to your three posts "disappear" on me ..... so, I think I'll call it a night and try again in the morning!

I'll never learn - shudda composed the response on my word processor then pasted it to the "reply to topic" screen. Oh well ....... can't fix stupid someone once said!

Where's that Worthingtons you were taking about?

Tom


Back again – so where were we? Yes, it was a quiet Monday evening – but then again, most of ‘em have been.

Good observation regarding those F40’s – yes they were the same duo that brought us to Halifax on the May 5th trip from Montreal. VIA Rail seems to keep the loco’s with the consist on a regular basis. In my volumes of pictures taken over the years, I seriously doubt whether there are any F40’s on the “Ocean” run that I haven’t several photos of.

Appreciate the kind words regarding those trip reports and photo’s. The intent was to share the experience with those of you who appreciate these kinds of things. Glad you enjoyed them ……

The ONLY name I recognized in that list of artists is Janis Joplin – and you DON”T want to know my thought regarding this gal …. Some good stuff, but one of those things with me – the more I learn about one’s personal life, the less inclined I am to want to imbibe …. If you follow my drift.

Okay – hope this iteration “takes” –

See ya! [tup] [;)]

Tom
Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:14 AM
Fill the thermos and on our way...

Re passengerfan's post: One station that had lots of backup (and head in moves as well) was Louisville. C&O backed in as well as L&N and PRR (depending on which direction they were heading upon departure.) Wish I had my pictures handy as somewhere in the "stack of stuff" is a group of color shots of the the "George Washington" and the "Pan American," both having backed into the station at Louisville. George was getting ready to head out to DC and the Pan was on its way to New Orleans. The "South Wind" was not running that day or I would have had a trifecta (gotta use them horse words when we talk about Louisville). John Droege's book Passenger Terminals and Trains has lots of track plans for stub end and stub on wye terminals in various U.S. cities; fascinating stuff, especially when you can find photos to go with the track plans; that's what the old ICC valuation study pictures are good for.

Road trip coming up (taking the heathinistics, i.e. school class trip) to Williamsburg. Will be back after Memorial Day. Have a good one and don't forget to take some time to reflect on what this holiday is all about.

work safe
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:57 AM
Good Morning, ClassicFans -

Just stopping in for my morning caffeine charge, can't stay long as I'm now "on the clock."

Tom, enjoyed the chat Monday evening, best of luck getting that web site up and running on Geocities - I'm sure you'll have quite a bit of fun with it!

I've heard an unconfirmable rumour that the Maryland Dept of Transp. plans to start running MARC commuter trains on the former B&O Old Main Line - very interesting, since no passenger trains have been operated there since the mid-1950's. Perhaps that is why they are replacing all the track that has been there sine the late 1940's?

Later....
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Posted by passengerfan on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:23 AM
Tom Just time for Coffee and a Bismarck !
Just wanted to say the more I look at those pictures of the Budd Park cars I for one find it hard to believe thay are celebrating their fity-first birthday this year. It was 1954 when the CPR received the Park cars and they first entered service on the Dominion. And today marks the fifty year one month anniversary of the CANADIAN April 24, 1955. How could I have misssed mentioning it last month. The cars gathered in Montreal as they were delivered from Budd and finally someone in upper management decided that the passenger yard space was more valuable than holding all of the cars for the inaugural of the CANADIAN so the cars actually entered service on the DOMINION first. This train was the premier CPR train across Canada at the time and would be relegated to secondary train when then CANADIAN entered service. The DOMINION was a mixture of heavyweights and the new lightweights with each dominion assigned a Budd Baggage Crew Dormitory, Skyline Dome Coach Chateau, Manor and Park car. All other cars in the DOMINION were heavyweight or earlier streamlined cars built by the CPR itself. The ATLANTIC LIMITED was never assigned a Park car until VIA operated the service.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:11 AM
Good evenong everyone. Rather overstuffed from our Victoria day BBQ so I'm keeping this short tonight. Tom thanks for the help don't be suprised if I drop you a pianed e-mail or two(still haven't found the [censored] pictures that I scanned) BTW lovely shots of your trip,sad to hear about our continuing labour day woes.Assuming that the before mentioned problems derail us this time out there is always next year. I prefer to be a "The glass is half full type of person" It's too bad too I had scanned a couple of good shots of Brantfords VIA station and some of the action around it, and a shot or two of a certain aircraft our friend Fergie likes to borrow from time to time. Well good night all i'll check in tomorrow. Rob

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