QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 06 Jun 2005, 18:27:02 Good evening {b]Tom,hail fellow tipplers, a Newcastle Brown Ale for me please and try one yourself-somewhat rounder and nuttier in flavour than Alexander`s and with a sting in the tail,but ideal for a long slow evening. Well, a fair few matters arising tonight, Tom-I now realise why Juneau has been regarding me with disdain -talk about adding insult to injury......... A pleasure to meet Cindy- I`m sure a mutually satisfactory position can be found for her-always happy to find staff who are prepared to be flexible & accommodating in their work........................ Agree the Bombardiers were a little "vivid"-perhaps stripes instead of block colour would work better, although I can see where he’s going with it. As to Boris` shots, a crack team of vetinarians are mixing potions as we speak-The problem lay in tracing his genotype,as he is clearly not entirely human. Careful study of " the history of the Magyar & Rom peoples," “Travels in the forests of Romania & Transylvania" and an obscure footnote to the Book of Revelations seem to have solved the puzzle however. So, proceeding along the counter we come to Rob- Hi big fella, have one on me when you get here -The trolley shots I mentioned are on postcards purchased from a kiosk at Toronto Union Stn -The Gloucester cars shot is credited to Ted Wicksen and is by Dexter/JBCVisuals,the shot of #4000 (with a very brief glimpse of car #327 behind) is credited to William N Carr and is from McDonald transport collectibles -By chance the same series has South Simcoe ten-wheeler 1057 in both s.s.r & Credit valley lettering-wonder if she`ll be about when you visit ? Glad you mentioned the "Scotsman"-a run by 4472 will feature later this week. Both the loco and the express that shares the name are Iconic examples of the great days, now long past, of the railways of Britain at their apex. Have always been rather fond of the C.P.R "Royal Hudsons" although for sheer class the silver & blue Royal train livery on #2850 takes some beating... so, on to Ted-How are you dear boy, all well in the sunshine state ? Have a little something to wa***hose meds down, how about a cigar- we’ve some nice fresh Cuban stock, just in from our Canadian supplier- I’d value your opinion. Have rooted round the bookshelves and dug out my venerable Ian Allen B.R. loco’s from 1962,which gives the following data for the G.W.R. "castle" class( the "Stars" & "Saints" from which they were derived, were all withdrawn by then ) 4-6-0 with six wheel tender, power classification 7P,introduced 1923,designed by C.B.Collett, weight-loco 79 tons 17 cwt, tender 46 tons14 cwt, boiler pressure 225lb psi, cyls. 4x 16"x26," driving wheels 6`8.5",tractive effort 31,625 lbs, valve gear walschaerts (rocking shafts & piston valves). No data yet on tender capacity but data for " B.R.Standard" types BR1, BR1H & BR2 ,which are all in the same weight range, suggest coal cap. 6-7 tons & water 3500-4250 gallons. Phew , all a bit dry,same again please Tom, ah lovely, thank you,-by the way Tom, thanks for the summeries (?) Your heroic efforts at hacking through the tangled prose I post here and rendering it into legible form are much appreciated. So, enough from me for now, what shall we have tomorrow-the 1895 race to the north or the Ocean mails across the south Devon switchback, I’m saving the record setters for last !,quick P.S. for ***-if you want to see a "castle" in steam, go on to Didcot. The Great Western Society have their headquarters in the old wye junction and have 5051 "Earl Bathurst" in regular use shuttling up and down the yard. I have also seen it being towed out of Old Oak Common depot, in steam, at the end of a ten car set with a 2-tone original green class 37 as pilot, prior to a down special to Bristol which we later overtook "in the hole" just before Swindon. enough already! be good, nick
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 06 Jun 2005, 19:09:23 Hello everyone. I will take an Alexander's, please. Lot of catching up to do. Seems like the last week I've lived more in motels than when I drove long distance. Part of that time was enjoyable behind a throttle and yesterday I was "conducting". Memorial Day the freight rr called and had me set up for engineer recertification the next day 229 miles away. A quick packing and a kiss from the love of my life and I was gone. Got back 2 days later without ever having been inside one of their locos but passed all the tests. Now waiting on them for instructions for what's next. We are trying to find a house to rent over the phone and net and also look for the wife a job. I believe that if something is meant to happen, it will. So far, everything is going well. The rr seems very interested in me and has spent some funds on me so far. They have even discussed some relocation assistance. Considering that initially we had went over to this rr to ride some different rails and was not even looking for work. I firmly believe someone had told them of my 8 years of experience on the historical demonstration rr. BWT, I will be 43 on 24 June. I believe I'll take another Alexanders. I drink much slower than in my misspent youth but the ale hits the spot. I can't really tell who is working tonight because of all the smoke and haze (purple?) in here so I'll wait to see who emerges from the fog. Sounds like somebody is playing Hank Snow's Canadian Pacific on the jukebox. Now if we could get Tom to hang one of Morant's classic photos on the wall, we'd be set.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 06 Jun 2005, 20:20:23 Evening Nick and earlydiesels ....... Have one on me! [tup] [:D] I'll get to more specific comments in my SUMMARY tomorrow - just had a very long response to your comments LOST in cyber space (again)! Oh, will I ever learn to do these things on my word processor then transfer them over ..... [:(!] Hey! earlydiesels - we're happy for you and hope things work out ..... HOWEVER, since we are an INTERACTIVE cyber bar 'n grill, how about letting us in on where you are - who you will be working for - and what will you be doing? We've missed you during your absence - and are glad to see you back. [tup] [;)] I'll see what I can do regarding a Morant work of art ....... Nick Thanx for the kind words - I really want this to be an INTERACTIVE cyber bar 'n grill. The SUMMARIES appear to be doing that - repetitive I admit - but they do seem to keep the conversations flowing. Among the missing: passengerfan Al and dickwatkins - haven't seen 'em for awhile, especially Al. Last we heard, he was off railfanning ....... Gotta bring a tray of pitchers to the back room AND put in some replacement 45 rpm records in the Juke. I like to refre***he old gal (Juke, that is! [}:)]] from time to time ....... Just found a bunch of WWII stuff - this being June 6th and D-Day, figured some Glen Miller would be nice. Gotta go ........ [tup] [;)] Tom (Siberianmo)
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 06 Jun 2005, 22:59:03 Good evening gentlemen. Nick I'll have a Guiness tonight I think. Nick Those are nice postcards we sell Ted Wickson's fare at the museum as well. Bill Carr and his wife are two very early members of the museum. Not founders but their membership number is in the low teens. TTC 4000 is an air electric PCC meaning it's controller is of course electric but the brakes and doors are air powered. It's one of the original 1938 PCC's indeed it's PCC car number 1 on the TTC roster, eventually there was over 700 PCC's all tolled on the system. The later cars of course became all electric, Most of the air electrics were scrapped or sold to Alexandria Egypt and are likely still there. 4000 is the only one left we saved it from the scrap line. In fact it had been purchased by a scrapper so we traded him an all electric that the museum had purchased at the same auction.4000 being much more historically significant. We run 4000 infrequently but she is in excellent shape. Our three 4600 series all electrics get more regular use. 327 is an interesting story as well. It's an 1896 Toronto railway company car, hand brake open wood body type streetcar. These cars were banned in 1915 for there side running boards, people got on and off this type of car without the car stopping which before the turn of the century was not a problem but by 1915 too many people were getting hurt as vehicle traffic other than horse and buggies and street cars were becoming more common. Therefore these cars were stored and were lost in a barn fire in 1917.All but the cars metal bits (truck, seat frames) were lost . Flash forward to 1933. The city of Toronto was celebrating it's 100th birthday that year so the TTC rebuilt from original plans car 327 using the salvaged metal pieces and all new wood. The car was put on display for the 100th birthday celebrations and was then regulated to historical collection storage at TTC's Hillcrest shops. This car never ran in revenue service on Toronto's streets as it's still by law banned. Our museum received it in 1968 and it was the first car to run under our wires in 1971.Two summers ago 2003 TTC celebrated their 80th birthday and we shipped 327 back to Toronto to take part in the parade of streetcars. Toronto City council had to repeal for a Day the old 1915 bylaw to allow it to run it's one and only revenue trip on the queen street line.Here;s the shot from that day. Well I'm off for tonight talk to you all tomorrow. Rob
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 04 Jun 2005, 22:45:24 Good evening folks. Ruthie situation has been solved.I found a new girl to work at the CS abd the gang have taken to her,soooo sheeee's back. Tom try .ca for that url or just a search for Niagara Central Hobbies. I know they have both books still. I've been shopping there for years. Ray the owner is a good guy. I await your e-mail plan. Talk to you all later. Rob
QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 05 Jun 2005, 06:21:56 Ah, a peaceful, quiet Sunday basking in the balmy breezes of a sub-tropical early morning. This is the sort of morning Carol (my late wife) and I detrained in Sanford, Fl. (Dec. 1973) to visit my in-laws in North Port, Fl. We rode the Auto Train (no kin to the U.K. variety) from Largo, Md. which departed early the previous day. Lunch and dinner on the train were served buffet style with steam tables and micro-wave ovens instead of the usual full menue on a typical dining car (more is the pity). There were movies available in several cars on the train. We opted to relax in our full length vista dome car and enjoy the sunset. Stereo headphones offered a variety of musical choices and I chose Classical just as Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" began. With the twilight setting, Barber's music, a J & B Scotch in hand and the "mystique" of the rhythmic motion of the train; I was transfixed to another deminsion. That rare moment lingers in my mind as something totally unique about train travel. It is still possible today but much more "rare." The coastal views the next morning had a calming, almost sedating effect until our arrival at Sanford. Then, of course the "spell" was shattered with waiting for my car to be unloaded and the subsequent drive to my Inlaw's home. I was impressed with the West Coast of Florida as oppossed to the Atlantic side which smacks of "high dollar" tourism at its' most obnoxious pitch (my opinion only). We had a nice visit with her folks but all I could think about was our return journey. The "return," as you can imagine, was Summer giving way to Winter and maybe not quite as pleasant but we escaped motoring through one of the worst blizzards to hit the Carolinas in decades. The dark, gloomy, heavy clouds over Virginia reminded us that we were, indeed, back home again. That, and the "white knuckle" sprint through D.C. traffic toward Baltimore plus shoveling out the drive way before opening the "Castle" door; brought on the decision to retire in warmer climes. Well, I hear snoring emanating from one or two easy chairs, so my tale has "hit the mark" this day. I'll be seeing you tomorrow, hopfully with something for a proper toast...I mean, Post! Ted
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 05 Jun 2005, 08:56:25 Good Sunday Morning! Yes, we are CLOSED on Sundays, however, there are always "things" to take care of 'round here, without the welcomed interruptions of a business day. As always, you can drop off your messages by using the mail slots on either set of doors .... I'll find 'em. No need for a "formal" SUMMARY today, but I can catch up on the comments ....... FOR ROB Bureaucracies being what they are, the Tribunal has set up a "procedure" whereby one Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary MUST be the intermediary between parties of the first part and the Tribunal, adjunct of the Executive Committee [aka: Kangaroo Court]. Once in receipt of your resoultion plan, and a review - certified by Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary along with concurrence from Nick, party of the first and second parts, closure (I HATE that word .......) may be obtained. The URL, www.niagracentralhobbies.ca only gets me an error message, as did .com - but that's okay. I think you'll like my plan ...... Enjoy this fine Sunday! [tup] [;)] FOR TED Really appreciate the description of your experiences aboard the Auto Train. That's a trip we've thought about, but always seem to put off. My Carol and I are NOT "into" trps of any kind where lots of children may be involved. Now before I get catogorized as the Grinch let me continue .... simply put, Been there, done that (in a previous life). I fully understand that the majority of southbound riders are heading off to Orlando and the wonders of amusement parks - Been there, done that many time over (in a previous life) don't need to do it again. Nevertheless, riding trains - taking in the sights from a comfortable setting - and those Superliner lounge cars aren't bad - are things that memories are made of. (Sorry, Dean Martin - Memories Are Made of This - circa: mid-50's). My preference for sightseeing is also the Gulf Coast, up on the panhandle as well as the western shore. Been awhile since we've been to the Sunshine State and never aboard a train. Perhaps one day ........ Also enjoyed the descriptions of "reality" once off the the train, in Florida and back home. Oh, how I can relate to THAT ........ Enjoy your Sunday! Tom (Siberianmo)
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 05 Jun 2005, 19:33:37 Hey Tom, Just popped in to tidy round the kitchen & do the orders`n`stuff. Cindy, Hi-a pleasure to meet you, You will find us a company of gentlemen, although keep an eye on the one in the filthy "whites" with the impenetrable accent..... A quick heads-up for the boys, over on MR w/end photo fun, pge 2 , there`s a guy over in Germany who`se done some nice work on a set of Bombardier double deckers and an F-unit ( plus a pretty impressive setting.)-thoughts anyone ? Apologies To Juneau, both for mis-spelling her name and compromising her digestion. Tom, Rob seems to have acted with the skills of a born diplomat, I feel he has presented us with a perfect solution to a potentially thorny issue, Rob-our thanks for a job well done !!!. Ted - All manner of dolmado`s and other stuffed leaves are available on request, I would advise the minced lamb & peppers with wild rice and the feta, monkfish & bulgar wheat as fillings with Our Place`s mediterranean platter as an accompaniment................ So, to business,-British express train performances, all statistics are taken from "Speed records on Britains railways" by O.S.Nock, a leading authority for many years. One or two brief notes first, unlike `your` side we dont run East/West or North/South. We have Up & Down-Up always being towards London. Thus the Up Brighton Belle is northbound whilst the up Flying Scotsman southbound.........go figure!... Also, in the period under scrutiny, the twenties & thirties, the myriad small companies that made up the network had recently been merged into the "big four" (LMS,LNER,GWR & Southern) and the new bosses were eager to restore and improve upon, pre-war timings. So,one from each region over the next week-an old fashioned serial.! For tonight, the 2.30pm up from Cheltenham to Paddington-the celebrated "Cheltenham Flyer"-in honour of *** ,who will be travelling the route soon. The first data to hand are from 1923,and give a 75 min. start to stop over 77.3 miles-61.8 mph. The road in question ( Brunel`s billiard table ) is either flat or falling slightly away and was without speed restrictions. the load was 8 or 9 cars( about 270+ tons) hauled by a "saint" class 2 cyl. 4-6-0. schedules accelerated in 1929 bringing max speeds up to 86-87 mph behind "castle" class 4-cyl 4-6-0`s 1931,Blue Riband for worlds fastest passes to Canadian Pacific Toronto-Montreal service,Sept 1931-welcome home !--sample timing,15 sept `31-engine 5000 "Launceston Castle",train weight 230 tons,run time 58 mins,average speed 80.25 mph,hit 90 max the following day. 5 june`32,5006 "Tregenna Castle" hit 92 mph for 14.5 miles Didcot/Tilehurst running up,whilst at the same time, 5005 "Manorbier Castle" ,210 tons,running down set a British record start-to-stop for steam which still stands at 81.68 mph 30 june `37 5039 "Rhuddlan Castle",235 tons,avge.88.9 mph max. 95 mph testing speed indicator equipment but shut back before reaching Southall,thus missing record..... O.K -thats the Great Western in a thumb-nail print, more to follow. Well I have to say this is a pleasantly tranquil environment after the rigours of last night. As previously noted, gig in club next door,--good points, I work there so get unlimited credit plus extreme tolerence when I get a bit wobbly, we always get the music night slots there, bad points, on music nights the whole place goes completely crazy, the closest analogy I can think of is the scene in the first Star Wars film where Obi-Wan takes Luke into the spaceport bar-last night we were performing in competition with a two hour long rolling brawl in the car park amongst some of the `start early with vodka in the bus shelter` crowd which had the neighbours bringing out picnic tables & pot-luck suppers and awarding points for style & content,oh to be young & dull again... better go, seem to have written small novel, be well guys, nick
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 05 Jun 2005, 23:39:25 Good evening gentlemen. Nick I'm glad you approve of my solution , and there's been nary a mention of Ruthie at the CS today or yesterday. Jane her replacement has won them over. My thoughts are that it is likly her former occupation as an ummm DANCER has worked it's magic. Boris give me her picture back, wow I thought he was going to bite me. Has he had his shots? Tom I'm sure that I will love your plan likley eligant and well thought out, BTW have you sent it yet? If you have I did not yet reveive it if you haven't then I'm awaiting it with baited breath. They are a "dot com" I was able to go to the site this afternoon, they are on a small cheap local service so that could be why you keep getting an error message. Speaking of classics Heather and I and likely her folks are looking at an early summer steam excursion on the South somcoe Railway at Tottenham(near orangeville ontario) They have CPR136 back working this year(100+year old 4-4-0) If any of you saw CBC's the national dream 136 was the steamer used for the mini series. I'm happy to report that our museum numbers have been up for the year so far and that L&PS 8 is close to returning to service. She is the "queen" of our fleet (a 1915 Jewet car company interurban car) We missed her badly last year, she had an entaglement with the yard wire early last summer and snapped a couple of ears off her working pan. While she was haveing the pan rebuilt we noticed that the one controller and a couple of resistor banks needed some attention, so since she was down we decided to fix all her ills. Her return will give MS&C 107 a bit of a break. We like to have two or three of each type of car available for service as this cuts down on down time do too maintenance and repair.it also gives us more selection for the general public. Last year was a thin year car wise with 8 out and both our operating whitt's were in Toronto being movie stars. Everyone go see Cinderellaman the streetcars in the movie are our two whitts 2424.and 2894 and the TTC's whit 2766. Well I'm off for now will check in tomorrow. Rob BTW here's a shot of L&PS car #8 at barn two
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 05 Jun 2005, 23:45:56 Hey Tom I'm back i noticed that i misspelled the hobby shop name. This is why nothing came up for you.should be www.niagaracentralhobbies.com I gave you one to few "a's". Rob
QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 05 June 2005, 06:21:42 First, may I "catch" Nick, Rob and yourslef Tom a flagon of your choice? Uh, no Boris, not an ensign, just a glass will do, thanks. Incredible time tables on the Great Western (U.K.) Nick. The speeds, tonage and distance indices "billboard" a staggering standard of efficiency. To "...restore and improve upon, pre-war timings" by the "Big Four" bosses would seem ambitious to say the least. I can only guess the terrane (hill and dale) along most of the Route (G.W.) is relatively flat, not only "Brunel's Billiard Table?" The "Ten Wheelers" must have had 60" plus drivers, and "long haul" tenders? It is astounding what is possible when the incentive, finances and logistics are favorable. I'm afraid those qualifications (except logisitcs) had evaporated in the post war years. Great input and I (for one) am interested in receiving more, more, MORE! Nick, your suggestion for mediterranean fare is, no doubt, preferable. Until Tom mentioned the unmistakable odor of boiling cabbage, it hadn't occurred to me how offensive it could be. I'm afraid there would be only you, me, Matah and Boris left in attendance. Once again, I leave the selections to your good taste. Rob, the LP & S, #8 is really a handsome car. It has some genetic lines similar to a Sacramento Northern (#302) prototype that comes to mind. The monitor roof being a notable difference but the pantograph system being the same. Darn it, just getting started and its already time to get ready for an appointment! I echo Nick's congratulations on the skillful manner with which you handled the "Ruthy Crisis." Between Rob and Tom, I believe "Our" Place can endure nearly any calamity; from within or without! Happy rails, Ted
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 05 June 2005, 09:22:10 Good morning everyone. Nick I concur with Ted on his praise of your, timetables that was an interesting list. One wonders if the "test" of the Flying scotsman on the CPR gave them the idea for the 4-4-4 jubilee's with their massive drivers and 80+ mph capabilities. I thought them to be an attractive engine though some would argue, at least they shared the "moon" fronted smoke box of the royal Hudson's and the same passenger maroon and grey paint of the passenger Hudson's and Pacific's. The Morant's curve biik has many nice shot's of the Jubilee's doing their thing through Quebec and Ontario, they seemed to love the fast high speed stop'n'start of the commuter trains. Ted i'm glad you liked the L&PS shot, this is an older shot before we completely fifnished her exterior / interior restoration. I'll try to get some new shoys in and out this year as her insides are as opulant and attractive as the outsides(why we refer to her as the queen)The L&PS didn't do anything cheaply even thought it was only a 50 mile run from Port stanley to London these cars routinly did that in 45 minutes 60-70 mph average speeds( with all station stops)Quite often they would run as two or three car trains two jewett power cars and an unpowered but control stand equiped MU trailer which were built by preston Car and Coach, the trailers were wood but had the same roof profile. The museum has trailer #3 on property but it may not be restorable unfortunatly.An interesting side note is that the L&PS ran unit trains of coal from Port stanley to London for home and locomotive use. They used three box cab loco's and occationally 8 or one of her sisters to pull the freight trains as well. 8 may not look like it but she's an all steel car and weighs in at around 50 tons. Our heaviest operating piece next to the set of gloster subway cars we have from the TTC. So Nick your photo of the TTC red devil subway cars still have an existing set of "masters" still existing. Here's a shot of the "G" cars arriving at the museum in the late 1980's i think it was 88 or 1989 .
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 04 Jun 2005, 22:45:24 Good evening folks. Ruthie situation has been solved. I found a new girl to work at the CS abd the gang have taken to her,soooo sheeee's back. Tom try .ca for that url or just a search for Niagara Central Hobbies. I know they have both books still. I've been shopping there for years. Ray the owner is a good guy. I await your e-mail plan. Talk to you all later. Rob
QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 05 June 2005, 06:21:56 Ah, a peaceful, quiet Sunday basking in the balmy breezes of a sub-tropical early morning. This is the sort of morning Carol (my late wife) and I detrained in Sanford, Fl. (Dec. 1973) to visit my in-laws in North Port, Fl. We rode the Auto Train (no kin to the U.K. variety) from Largo, Md. which departed early the previous day. Lunch and dinner on the train were served buffet style with steam tables and micro-wave ovens instead of the usual full menue on a typical dining car (more is the pity). There were movies available in several cars on the train. We opted to relax in our full length vista dome car and enjoy the sunset. Stereo headphones offered a variety of musical choices and I chose Classical just as Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" began. With the twilight setting, Barber's music, a J & B Scotch in hand and the "mystique" of the rhythmic motion of the train; I was transfixed to another deminsion. That rare moment lingers in my mind as something totally unique about train travel. It is still possible today but much more "rare." The coastal views the next morning had a calming, almost sedating effect until our arrival at Sanford. Then, of course the "spell" was shattered with waiting for my car to be unloaded and the subsequent drive to my Inlaw's home. I was impressed with the West Coast of Florida as oppossed to the Atlantic side which smacks of "high dollar" tourism at its' most obnoxious pitch (my opinion only). We had a nice visit with her folks but all I could think about was our return journey. The "return," as you can imagine, was Summer giving way to Winter and maybe not quite as pleasant but we escaped motoring through one of the worst blizzards to hit the Carolinas in decades. The dark, gloomy, heavy clouds over Virginia reminded us that we were, indeed, back home again. That, and the "white knuckle" sprint through D.C. traffic toward Baltimore plus shoveling out the drive way before opening the "Castle" door; brought on the decision to retire in warmer climes. Well, I hear snoring emanating from one or two easy chairs, so my tale has "hit the mark" this day. I'll be seeing you tomorrow, hopfully with something for a proper toast...I mean, Post! Ted
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 04 June 2005, 01:01:14 Good eveninng again everyone. Tom I will attempt again to remove Ruthie from the clutches of her customers and cousins attempted to a few pages ago over at CS but things had been busy and hectic over there. I actually saw a for sale copy of the BC book tonight at Niagara central hobbies in St Catharines on (my hometown, hometown) try www.niagaracentralhobbies .com They don't sell on the internet but i beleave that if you call them they will do mail order. Sorry I didn't peek at the price. Normally sold for around $80 CDN. Another good book is Across The Canadian Shield, good photo's of Ontario CNR action in the 50's early deisel's and the Super Continental passenger trains good stuff. Books by Alan Lill and Robert Wanner it was published by the CN Lines Special Interest Group in 1998. (Niagara Central has one or two copies of this left as well) well I'm off for now thanks for the link for the video's Tom as well. talk to you all later. Rob
QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 04 June 2005, 11:26:11 It is really great to have "Our Bunch" back at "Our" Place, isn't it? The brief absence of a few "key" and highly esteemed players brings the promise of many future "rails tales." Thanks for the feed-back on the "transition" (steam-Deisel/elcectrification) periods in Canada, U.K. and U.S. Tom, if you please, a 'round for all. When you consider the passenger cars e.g., "slam door" (U.K.) to the "B-29" obsevation car (Milwaukee Road) along with the fledgling Diesel (petroleum distillation process) and fading steam (turbines); the "transition era" may not be so far afield as it seems. Hopefully, it all comes together for greater appreciation and enjoyment for everyone. "All is well that ends well" appears to be the result of, an otherwise baffling, convaluted, thread of litigation. Here is to a "job well done" by all who participated including Boris, although kissing the Magistrate's ring may have been bit uncustomary. Any road, we can only wi***hat other note worthy trials should be so merciful, right? Nick, I owe you. First, for the ill-fated tet-a-tet involving your culinary labors. Second, for addressing you as "...in northeast Wales" at an earlier posting; my profound apologies! Perhaps we had best leave the "first" faux pas for some future date "to be determined." I've been seeing a Hungarian Lass from time to time. Is there any chance that "stuffed Cabbage" might be in your planning menues? Tom, splendid job of keeping the Paparazzi at bay. Well friends all, may I offer a toast for a Summer of good hunting, reading and viewing in our own respective manner of enjoyment. Happy rails, Ted
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 03 June 2005, 09:19:59 Ah, it IS Friday!!! Let me get a cup of java to get the system started. Going to have fun riding trains in Great Britain next month. Have about a week of work at Thames Valley Park in Reading, about 25 miles west on London. Will be taking the Frist Great Western trains from Paddington to Reading every day. They are a little pricy at £20 per round trip, however, a hold over from my days on the DART board is a pass on FGW trains. Price is right and hotel rooms and restaurants are far better in London than Reading. Will be taking my wife with me. She will be seriously abusing the plastic while I work. Donations are appreciated. Please make checks payable to the Richard Watkins Welfare Fund. *** PS. Just kidding about the welfare fund.
QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 03 June 2005, 10:57:03 Thanks for the input on the "seek and Ye shall find" A.P.B. I sent out last Post. This is the third time I've attempted sending but have been "bounced" due to power outages. [And Progress Energy wants a rate increase to boot] Nick, that must've been a grueling trek on the "Under-the-Briny Speed Rail System." No need for dome cars, I dare say. I trust you will be swapping your powdered whig for the Head Chef's gear presently? Tom's superb Gourmand Pizza has been seeing me through pending your assuming "normal" status. I ordered a toasted English with cream cheese, topped with Nova Scotia while Boris was in earlier. Unfortunately, he returned ten minutes later declaring the "English" was busy in Court and he couldn't find a map of Nova Scotia anywhere. I don't want to tell you what "hit the counter" when I re-ordered for cream cheese on Rye. Rob, thanks again and you will be hearing from me very soon regarding public support for the Museum. I'll return with a another vignette of some youthful train travels a.sa.p.! Meanwhile, let us hope for a speedy judgment from the honorable Provencial Tribunal. Good afternoon to all. Ted
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 12:02:44 Quote wrwatkinsPosted: 03 June 2005, 09:19:59 Ah, it IS Friday!!! Let me get a cup of java to get the system started. Going to have fun riding trains in Great Britain next month. Have about a week of work at Thames Valley Park in Reading, about 25 miles west on London. Will be taking the First Great Western trains from Paddington to Reading every day. They are a little pricy at £20 per round trip, however, a hold over from my days on the DART board is a pass on FGW trains. Price is right and hotel rooms and restaurants are far better in London than Reading. Will be taking my wife with me. She will be seriously abusing the plastic while I work. Donations are appreciated. Please make checks payable to the Richard Watkins Welfare Fund. *** PS. Just kidding about the welfare fund. ============================================= Hey, it's lunchtime at "Our" Place ..... time for a hoagie/hero/sub/grinder with the freshest meats and cheeses in the territory. Also, freshly baked breads (all kinds) early this AM. So, whatillyahave? Haven't been to Great Britain since 1971 and then the visit wasn't while on vacation. I was a "young" junior officer (33) assigned to one of our 378 ff Cutters and we were on a summer "Cadet Cruise." It was a great adventure for the CG Academy boys (that's what they were in those days ... a "boy's school) as we had 'em aboard for the seven weeks away from our homeport of Boston, MA. The regularly assigned officers and crew were narrowed down to about 1/3rd of normal complement in order to accommodate the Cadets. We ran 'em through all of the shipboard duties and through it all, my guess is the vast majority of 'em came away with good memories. I did. Got to see England, Norway, Germany and France during our European ports of call in Southampton, Oslo, Lubeck and Brest. The ONLY train experience I had involved taking the train from a place in Germany called ULM to Paris, France. Spent 3 days there and then took another train to Brest to meet the ship - I was on 10 days leave, having departed my ship up in Lubeck, Germany. It was a "blast" - all of it. [#oops] Hmmmmmm, a bit [#offtopic], sorry! We EXPECT lots of pix from your vacation ... so plan on it! [tup] [;)] I'm sure we can spare some quarters from the Juke Box jar over there for the RWWF ....... [tup] [;)][:(] ======================================================== QUOTE: Ted D. Kramer Posted: 03 June 2005:57:03 Thanks for the input on the "seek and Ye shall find" A.P.B. I sent out last Post. This is the third time I've attempted sending but have been "bounced" due to power outages. [And Progress Energy wants a rate increase to boot] Nick, that must've been a gruelling trek on the "Under-the-Briny Speed Rail System." No need for dome cars, I dare say. I trust you will be swaping your powdered whig for the Head Chef's gear presently? Tom's superb Gourmand Pizza has been seeing me through pending your assuming "normal" status. I ordered a toasted English with cream cheese, topped with Nova Scotia while Boris was in earlier. Unfortunately, he returned ten minutes later declaring the "English" was busy in Court and he couldn't find a map of Nova Scotia anywhere. I don't want to tell you what "hit the counter" when I re-ordered for cream cheese on Rye. Rob thanks again and you will be hearing from me very soon regarding public support for the Museum. I'll return with a another vignette of some youthful train travels a.sa.p.! Meanwhile, let us hope for a speedy judgment from the honorable Provencial Tribunal. Good afternoon to all. Ted ====================================================== Glad the info provided helped ....... I'm not doing as well, as I cannot locate the book Rob referred me to British Columbia Railway by J.F. Garden. I can find the title on amazon.com and borders.com, but it is out of print and neither site has been able to locate any used copies. [:(] Boris will be Boris and it's all a matter of adjusting - us to him. (Lord, help us all!) Where Nick found this guy, and why, will probably remain one of life's mysteries better left unexplained. Sorry. So, whatillyahave? [tup] [;)] Tom (Siberianmo)
QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:28:42 Hello there...Tom, just an inch of this fine Longmorn, please. I have been busy doing what I do for a living in the Eastern Townships these days. I may be of some help with prosecuting "The Ruthie case"[^] but then again, I like to leave my work at the office when I leave at night... [soapbox] While a was in Sherbrooke this week, I took a few pics of the old depot and the station, both boarded up and in bad shape. I wish I could post these pics but I still can't open an account at trainboard or elsewhere. Maybe I will send them to Tom and he could post them on the forum next week... [:D] Tom, check this month's Railfan and Railroad (july issue) and you will find the cover to your liking my friend!!! "The last streamliner in the east" Via's Budd cars on the Ocean and Chaleur trains!! [:P] All with nice pictures of these trains in the Maritimes and in Gaspesie. And on top of that,( and too good to be true...) for the traction fans among this learned assembly [bow] a " last days of the trolley in New-York" p.36. I have to go now, have a nice weekend everyone. Chris, in the sunny North Coast ltd.
QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:38:05 Tom, Nick, I have not seen Annie lately, is she seeing someone else... [:(] Chris, in the solitary North...
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:53:38 G'day Chris - Whatillyahave? Didn't notice you sitting over there on YOUR stool ....... been keeping my eye on Boris and the bunch of young ladies who stopped in for lunch ...... wonder IF they'll ever return[?] Annie[?] She's been here - worked last night in fact. Stick around, she's on the schedule to work the back room tonight - Pizza night and steak & fries too. Haven't heard anything about HER - but we sure have our hands full (we wish) with Ruthie and her exploits. Haven't seen hide nor hair of the Tribunal since they adjourned. Unconfirmed reports over at the all female university is that the sounds of [bonk] [bonk] [bonk] have been heard coming from the residence buildings along with Do what the nice Judge tells you - now let's try again. Haven't a clue what that's all about ...... [}:)] So, whatillyahave? [tup] [;)] Tom (Siberianmo)
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 13:59:15 A new page has been reached, #21 ..... I'm going to use this occasion as a reminder to those who haven't responded: 2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST revised: May 18th (Tom - 67) – July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34) C'mon "Our" Place customers - sign up and let's make this BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST more reflective of our regular customer base ........ Even Nick has yet to reveal his Natal Day and age, and HE's the Party Coordinator! Tom (Siberianmo) Proprietor of "Our" Place
QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 03 June 2005, 14:28:21 Tom, just finished reading the july issue of "Railfan and railroad". great story about Via's Budd cars. I urge you to get your hands on a copy. Benchwork weekend again... Where's my Longmorn?. Chris in the French North
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 14:38:16 Chris Longmorn, a fine Scotch whisky ... how about a double? [;)] Thanx for the tip about the VIA Budd cars article ....... [tup] [;)] Stick around, I hear the decision of the Tribunal is about to be revealed. Tom (Siberianmo)
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 14:44:57 Oye, Oye, Oye, the EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE of “Our” Place is now in session. All rise for the procession of the Judges. (Hey! Boris, those are NOT long Kilts – and put them DOWN – Sheesh. [bonk – bonk – bonk] (is THIS a gavel?) This Tribunal is now prepared to render its decision in the case Anonymous versus “Our” Place (or is it the other way ‘round ) Anyway, you may be seated. Boris bring the Tribuna a hair of the dog a pitcher of something refreshing to drink. Attorneys for both sides approach the bar bench. Do you have any further material evidence to submit to the Tribuna[?] No, your Tribunalship. And are you ready for the decision of this august body[?] You mean the decision will be revealed in August[?] No, Boris you half-witted son of a gnat, this is June and we are ready to ……. Oh forget it. All rise! It is the decision of the Tribunal that one Ruthie was not forced, coerced, or otherwise duped into employment at The Coffee Shop. Rather, we find that Rob, aka: Trolleyboy did in fact inadvertently expose her – poor choice of words – did in fact introduce her to The Coffee Shop whereupon she found that her distant relatives, worked as waitresses, aka: servers. We also have found that one Nick an Associate Justice of this august body (keep quiet, Boris) was involved in that through his frequency of attendance at The Coffee Shop and ”Our” Place he too added to the inadvertent nature of Ruthie’s transgressions through references to her in both places. The matter of a newly born child has been clarified in that Ruthie was in fact recently visiting West Wales and was observed pushing a baby carriage, however, the report of one Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator revealed that the baby is that of Ruthie’s Mum, former Biker ‘itch and current Librarian at large. Ruthie therefore is as clean as the wind driven snow - of course that depends totally on the direction the wind is coming from, but that's another story. It is the decision of the Tribunal that all records be expunged regarding any charges against all parties in this case and that the following judgment be carried out forthwith: Rob, aka Trollyboy will be required to extricate Ruthie from further association with The Coffee Shop and that Nick assist in this endeavor. Evidence of completion will be filed with Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary whereupon this matter will be considered closed. Case dismissed! All rise! Oh, you are risen. Well, stay up until the Tribunal departs. (Hey, Boris bring a couple more of those pitchers to the back room, will ya[?]) Let's party!
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 03 June 2005, 19:07:29 Long time no see Tom and the gang..Dave from the left coast , can't indulge gotta report for VIP protection detail tomorrow , on a Saturday no less! Gotta stay alert, so how about some Ginger Ale? I've been gone a couple of weeks, my planned trip up north was a no go due to scheduling conflicts involving my occupation. I see we have had some questionable ethics issues stain the honor of "Our Place" during my absence, ok who's responsible? We have ways of making you confess. Tom, You are indeed quite the Baliwick, upon reading your argument, my initial thought was that the stuffed shirts had foreclosed on "Our Place" and transformed it into a haughty, up scale Coffe Bar / internet cafe and low cost-do it yourself law center. . Quit the legal argument you put forth, next time, notify me in detail as to the culprits and I'll put them on a international watch list . Dave
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 19:50:42 Hi Dave - Sorry you can't stick around this fine Friday evening .... as they say, "Duty calls." We should exchange Emails one of these days .... apparently we have more than love of trains in common ....... By the way, how was that train watching trip you went on awhile ago? In case you haven't noticed, 'round here we share those tales! [tup] [;)] When you get the chance, review the SUMMARIES - and those brown posts - you'll get the lowdown on what's been happenin' ........ No stuffed shirts or legal Beagles involved with the management 'round here ... just the same old crowd ....... stirring the pot (and I'm not referring to the growing kind). [}:)] See ya! [tup] [;)] Tom (Siberianmo)
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 03 June 2005, 20:21:27 Ah yes Tom, trains, many tales of many adventures i'll bring the gang up to speed when I can devote time for a proper posting.. Until then..Off duty and leaving the building. To be continued: Dave
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 03 June 2005, 20:31:31 First & foremost,apologies to the bench for interrupting the court whilst in session. I am recently arrived and will take a minute or two to catch up.................................... O.K.,M`Lud,may I approach the bench...?..thank you, ah,Lucy....a bottle of Staropramen from the fridge in the back stores for me,a pale ale & a single malt for judge bloody jeffreys here,and the usual round for the house-go on give the track gang a drink as well-much appreciate the work done in my absence.....!............ Will be running GO trains out to Barrie/Allendale soon,good effort boys !!!. Right, TOM,all evidence finally in,can state with authority natal day 5th March 1960,apparently 29 days late,a recurring pattern established early....., LRC`s-useful modelling potential for #365 / #366 "International"-alternate VIA & AMTRAK power with a short car set . Will give some thought to Boris` past..... TED, Welcome back,we`ve missed the crystal clarity of your prose,I`m glad you can function without the "black bombers" as they are known locally, Am preparing brief roundup of express steam train timings over here r.e. your ref. "Thunderer"on line,also,transition from steam to diesel `Auto-trains`,will need to do sevaral day`s homework here.... ROB..have been grubbing through my postcards`n`blurry photo`s collection and found ex TTC 4000 & G5098 + G5099,that I didnt know I had-no wonder the name seemed familiar...***..I get to ride in and out of Paddington fairly often,I`ll make out a list of all the "trackside industries" between there & Reading.(Which is a junction with the Southern Region) so you can choose which side of the carriage you want to sit on to take photo`s....... Lucy,same again my dear and dont forget to include yourself,.... O.K, My lovely weekend away,up in steam train country;-what would you think the odd`s were of going all that way,to the house of a fellow train nut and ending up visiting a Zoo instead----Never underestimate the real boss......particulaly when She`s with her mother...........yes dear,of course dear,at once dear,------Gig in rugby club next door tomorrow so please disregard any postings,bound to get all excited again. Enjoy your weekends,pass some of that pizza,-here,Juneau,nice pizza--good dog!!! Be happy,nick
siberianmo Posted: 03 June 2005, 20:59:25 Evening Nick - Man this place is hoppin' - Nice seeing you and all the guys enjoying Pizza Night. Looks like Boris is behaving somewhat better this Friday night - must've been that right hook he received from the brunette over in the corner booth in the back where it's dark ...... Once again, he thought she was a she, and it turned out she was a he. Boris does have that track record .... [}:)] I'll get to your comments in the next SUMMARY - kinda busy here at the bar and really don't thave too much time for chit chat. It will be interesting to learn how you and Rob plan to carry out the orders of the Tribunal. Of course, that will have to be handled between the two of you and Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary. Last time I noticed, he and Juneau (Siberian Husky) were playing tug-o-war with a garment that looks kinda like a sling shot made for bowling balls. Hmmmmmm. Oh by the way, Carol says, absolutely NO pizza for Juneau - unless of course YOU want to pick up the results! [:(!] Okay - I'll be right there .... see ya! [tup] [;)] ======================================== That's it for me .......... see ya! [|)] Tom (Siberianmo) Proprietor of "Our" Place Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 8:59 PM Evening Nick - Man this place is hoppin' - Nice seeing you and all the guys enjoying Pizza Night. Looks like Boris is behaving somewhat better this Friday night - must've been that right hook he received from the brunette over in the corner booth in the back where it's dark ...... Once again, he thought she was a she, and it turned out she was a he. Boris does have that track record .... [}:)] I'll get to your comments in the next SUMMARY - kinda busy here at the bar and really don't thave too much time for chit chat. It will be interesting to learn how you and Rob plan to carry out the orders of the Tribunal. Of course, that will have to be handled between the two of you and Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary. Last time I noticed, he and Juneau (Siberian Husky) were playing tug-o-war with a garment that looks kinda like a sling shot made for bowling balls. Hmmmmmm. Oh by the way, Carol says, absolutely NO pizza for Juneau - unless of course YOU want to pick up the results! [:(!] Okay - I'll be right there .... see ya! [tup] [;)] Tom (Siberianmo} Happy Railroading! Siberianmo nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, June 3, 2005 8:31 PM First & foremost,apologies to the bench for interrupting the court whilst in session. I am recently arrived and will take a minute or two to catch up....................................O.K.,M`Lud,may I approach the bench...?..thank you,ah,Lucy....a bottle of Staropramen from the fridge in the back stores for me,a pale ale & a single malt for judge bloody jeffreys here,and the usual round for the house-go on give the track gang a drink as well-much appreciate the work done in my absence.....!............Will be running GO trains out to Barrie/Allendale soon,good effort boys !!!. Right, TOM,all evidence finally in,can state with authority natal day 5th March 1960,apparently 29 days late,a recurring pattern established early.....,LRC`s-useful modelling potential for #365 / #366 "International"-alternate VIA & AMTRAK power with a short car set . Will give some thought to Boris` past..... TED, Welcome back,we`ve missed the crystal clarity of your prose,I`m glad you can function without the "black bombers" as they are known locally, Am preparing brief roundup of express steam train timings over here r.e. your ref. "Thunderer"on line,also,transition from steam to diesel `Auto-trains`,will need to do sevaral day`s homework here....ROB..have been grubbing through my postcards`n`blurry photo`s collection and found ex TTC 4000 & G5098 + G5099,that I didnt know I had-no wonder the name seemed familiar...***..I get to ride in and out of Paddington fairly often,I`ll make out a list of all the "trackside industries" between there & Reading.(Which is a junction with the Southern Region) so you can choose which side of the carriage you want to sit on to take photo`s....... Lucy,same again my dear and dont forget to include yourself,....O.K, My lovely weekend away,up in steam train country;-what would you think the odd`s were of going all that way,to the house of a fellow train nut and ending up visiting a Zoo instead----Never underestimate the real boss......particulaly when She`s with her mother...........yes dear,of course dear,at once dear,------Gig in rugby club next door tomorrow so please disregard any postings,bound to get all excited again. Enjoy your weekends,pass some of that pizza,-here,Jeaneau,nice pizza--good dog!!! Be happy,nick West Coast S Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: Los Angeles 1,619 posts Posted by West Coast S on Friday, June 3, 2005 8:21 PM Ah yes Tom, trains, many tales of many adventures i'll bring the gang up to speed when I can devote time for a proper posting.. Until then..Off duty and leaving the building. To be continued: Dave SP the way it was in S scale siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 7:50 PM Hi Dave - Sorry you can't stick around this fine Friday evening .... as they say, "Duty calls." We should exchange Emails one of these days .... apparently we have more than love of trains in common ....... By the way, how was that train watching trip you went on awhile ago? In case you haven't noticed, 'round here we share those tales! [tup] [;)] When you get the chance, review the SUMMARIES - and those brown posts - you'll get the lowdown on what's been happenin' ........ No stuffed shirts or legal Beagles involved with the management 'round here ... just the same old crowd ....... stirring the pot (and I'm not referring to the growing kind). [}:)] See ya! [tup] [;)] Tom (Siberianmo) Happy Railroading! Siberianmo West Coast S Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: Los Angeles 1,619 posts Posted by West Coast S on Friday, June 3, 2005 7:07 PM Long time no see Tom and the gang..Dave from the left coast , can't indulge gotta report for VIP protection detail tomorrow , on a Saturday no less! Gotta stay alert, so how about some Ginger Ale? I've been gone a couple of weeks, my planned trip up north was a no go due to scheduling conflicts involving my occupation. I see we have had some questionable ethics issues stain the honor of "Our Place" during my absence, ok who's responsible? We have ways of making you confess. Tom, You are indeed quite the Baliwick, upon reading your argument, my initial thought was that the stuffed shirts had foreclosed on "Our Place" and transformed it into a haughty, up scale Coffe Bar / internet cafe and low cost-do it yourself law center. . Quit the legal argument you put forth, next time, notify me in detail as to the culprits and i'll put them on a international watch list . Dave SP the way it was in S scale siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 3, 2005 2:44 PM Oye, Oye, Oye, the EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE of “Our” Place is now in session. All rise for the procession of the Judges. (Hey! Boris, those are NOT long Kilts – and put them DOWN – Sheesh. [bonk – bonk – bonk] (is THIS a gavel?) This Tribunal is now prepared to render its decision in the case Anonymous versus “Our” Place (or is it the other way ‘round[?]) Anyway, you may be seated. Boris bring the Tribunal a hair of the dog a pitcher of something refreshing to drink. Attorneys for both sides approach the bar bench. Do you have any further material evidence to submit to the Tribunal[?] No, your Tribunalship. And are you ready for the decision of this august body[?] You mean the decision will be revealed in August[?] No, Boris you half-witted son of a gnat, this is June and we are ready to ……. Oh forget it. All rise! It is the decision of the Tribunal that one Ruthie was not forced, coerced, or otherwise duped into employment at The Coffee Shop. Rather, we find that Rob, aka: Trolleyboy did in fact inadvertently expose her – poor choice of words – did in fact introduce her to The Coffee Shop whereupon she found that her distant relatives, worked as waitresses, aka: servers. We also have found that one Nick an Associate Justice of this august body (keep quiet, Boris) was involved in that through his frequency of attendance at The Coffee Shop and ”Our” Place he too added to the inadvertent nature of Ruthie’s transgressions through references to her in both places. The matter of a newly born child has been clarified in that Ruthie was in fact recently visiting West Wales and was observed pushing a baby carriage, however, the report of one Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator revealed that the baby is that of Ruthie’s Mum, former Biker ‘itch and current Librarian at large. Ruthie therefore is as clean as the wind driven snow - of course that depends totally on the direction the wind is coming from, but that's another story. It is the decision of the Tribunal that all records be expunged regarding any charges against all parties in this case and that the following judgment be carried out forthwith: Rob, aka Trollyboy will be required to extricate Ruthie from further association with The Coffee Shop and that Nick assist in this endeavor. Evidence of completion will be filed with Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary whereupon this matter will be considered closed. Case dismissed! All rise! Oh, you are risen. Well, stay up until the Tribunal departs. (Hey, Boris bring a couple more of those pitchers to the back room, will ya[?]) Let's party! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo « First«284285286287288289290»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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