Even though the bar at "Our" Place is
CLOSED on Sundays -
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!
Now playing at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . Sunday, November 12th thru 18th: Buster (1988) Starring: Phil Collins, Julie Walters & Larry Lamb – and – The Great Train Robber (1979) Starring: Sean Connery, Donald Sutherland & Lesley-Anne Down. SHORT: Termites of 1938.
Buster (1988)PLOT SUMMARY:
Buster is a small time crook who pulls a big time job. When he finds that the police will not let the case drop, he goes into hiding and can't contact his wife and child. He arranges to meet them in Mexico where he thinks they can begin again, but finds that he must choose between his family and freedom.
Sutherland and Connery wish to rob a moving train's safe in Victorian England. They need wax impressions of keys, coffins, dead cats, and a great deal of planning in order to pull it off.
Muriel Van Twitchett is distraught when she finds out she has no escort for a fancy party she wants to go to. Her husband has skipped out to go fishing. A friend suggests she call the Acme Escort Bureau. Her maid mistakenly dials the Acme Exterminating Company, which happens to be run by the Stooges. The boys accept her offer and show new manners to the guests. During a musical performance to a record, mice appear and the Stooges get to work. When Mrs. Van Twitchett's husband come home and finds the damage done by the Stooges, he chases them out of the house.
from: threestooges.netEnjoy! Tom
G'day Gents!
Check out the Sunday buffet ('til 2 PM) and enjoy our breakfast - brunch - lunch here at the Saloon by the Siding! Sorry, but the bar is CLOSED, but we open on Monday at 6 AM!
Nice spate of 7 Pix from Nick at 8:21 PM yesterday! Well done, Mate and supportive of what we tried to accomplish on Friday 'n Saturday for our Veterans! Looking forward to the next batch.
Pete at 10:11 PM yesterday: As always, appreciate your attentiveness to "Our" Place. Always have something nice to say to the gang! And you know, it wouldn't surprise me at all if our fathers indeed had sailed in convoys all the while never dreaming their sons would someday become great friends! Interesting posit there, eh
Eric at 3:26 AM today: I'll be sure to dig out a Pix from our travels to Bedford to provide a current view of the Basin. No large ships anymore - just private small craft, mainly sailing vessels. If only the Basin could talk, eh
Here's your URL:
http://web.mac.com/ericx2000/iWeb/Sunday%20Picts/Sunday%20Pictures.html
Many thanx for the Pix of the Swedish mail cars; the military aircraft AND the photo of YOU with your unit in the Swedish Air Force! Now which one is YOU
I expect to be away from the bar for all of the afternoon. Enjoy the day, Gents!
Tom
Even though the bar is
G'day!
Some random Pix from my archives to enjoy on this fine bright, clear and chilly day in mid-continent USA!
Amtrak's eastbound St. Louis Mule at Kansas City, MO Union Station
VIA Rail's Evangeline Park car and westbound "Ocean" at terminal, Halifax, Nova Scotia
VIA Rail P42DC and train #33 at station, Ottawa, Ontario
VIA Rail F40PH and westbound Ocean at terminal, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Bedford Basin, Bedford (Halifax) Nova Scotia
That's it from me today!
Until the next time!
Lars
Canada Science & Technology Museum
Veterans Affairs Canada
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1065110296&id=40
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1537872159&id=38
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=88044242&id=37
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=54101885&id=131
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=3045378&id=131
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=71295182&id=131
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=675068190&id=43
http://agents.ili.ca/images/large_images/Halifax/citadel_from_sky.jpg
http://www.parl.ns.ca/samson/images.htm
http://www.parl.ns.ca/samson/samsontoday.htm
Hi Tom and all
Just returned from a most enjoyable lunch with TOM and his bride. We had a great time with a really good meal.
I know the bar is closed today but I will leave some cash in the envelope to celebrate the 19th anniversary of Our Place when the bar reopens.
ERIC Thanks for the pics and drawings of the Post cars, and of the B17.Enjoyed the pic of you in the Swedish Air Force
I will look into the history of the WD 1959 if I can,. the pic was taken this October at Sheffield Park on the Bluebell Railway in Southern England.
LARS Hope you have a great time at the football it should be a great game, I will watch it on the TV.
Another great set of book covers.What a wonderful picture on the Rites Of Passage book,. it just begs the question of how long as that car stood on that track. The wagon in the bottom left of the Brit book is no youngster either.
May I agree with your comments on theFriday/Saturday posts at Our Place.
MIKE Many thanks for the pics of Halifax and the pics and links of Samson and Albion.The link to Samson that told of the locos history really is a great read. It is so good to see that this historic engine is so well cared for today.
TOM Thanks for the kind words. Halifax Harbor looks a lot quiter than it did in yesterdays photo. Talking of our fathers perhaps they may have been on shore in Liverpool after the convoy had arrived. It is a good thought that perhaps they may have been.
Great pics. It is good to compare Amtrak #78 with VIA Rail #900. These must be a good class of passenger locos as they are often left to single haul trains, it would interesting to know how long they have been in service.
I will be calling into the Emporium this week.If I remember right there are some good steam shots in The First Great Train Robbery, I think they were filmed in Ireland.
Sorry they are late, this weeks pics are from Germany by Alan
A run past with the tour loco between Hainichen and Frankenburg.
At Seifersdorf.
At Frankenburg to cross the service train which is pictured below
Hopefully these should enlarge
Pete.
Hi Tom and all.
I have found some info on yesterday,s pic for ERIC.The loco was USATC # 1959 here is a link with a couple of pics and a short history.
http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/usa.html
Hi Tom and all in
I’ll have a full breakfast please, whilst I catch up on various posts.
Pete – thanks for that Coronation Class run down – I’d wondered about the division of the names within the class and nice to read your summary. I wonder why they decided to ‘mix’ the names between Duchesses and Cities? Only 3 in preservation is a shame – compared with this the Bullied Pacifics have done well – I suppose more had the good luck of ending up at Barry Scrap yard
(For those of you not familiar with how over 200 steam engines got saved from being cut up for scrap you might enjoy this web story here – and raise a glass to our friends from Wales).
http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/barry1.htm
http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/barry2.htm
http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/barry3.htm
Just further to information about Kimberley given your remark about Alan’s interest – I think more or less next to the old GNR station is the old Midland Railway station masters house – I think the 2 competing lines here must have run beside each other. If Alan is interested in old lines he will know doubt be able to check this out. Unfortunately this area is not yet well covered by the otherwise excellent closed stations website or it would be easy to verify:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/sites.shtml
also – is he aware of the website dedicated to hiking abandoned lines? Just in case not:
http://www.railwayramblers.org.uk/
That tour to Old Dalby sounds interesting – I hear the test line is under threat, despite recent investment. My other half’s father worked there (at Old Dalby, as well as the on the old Derby Friargate test line) often as he worked for BR Research at the Technical Centre in Derby before retirement.
Mike – interesting jpeg pics (I really appreciate the jpeg links because you never get the probs of pics not appearing on the forum). A bit worrying to me how long ago some of those WW1 pictures look – after all, I recall speaking to my grandfather very often about his service in WW1, and that gave a sense to me of how relatively recent it all was – he died about 15 years ago which does not seem so long ago.
The vintage pics of Halifax were really interesting considering my recent visit – nice to see that pic of the Nova Scotian hotel – it has obviously been expanded dramatically since then and as a result the architecture has been all messed up (the building is now totally unbalanced, visually, I think – what do you reckon Tom?) Those pics showed the original building – very good.
Eric – nice pics of that B17 – I imagine the belly turret was precisely there to counter the attack Rob described in his tribute to the Avro Lancaster crew – I don’t think the Lancaster had that underneath protection.
The B17 pics reminds me of the collection housed in the Special American Gallery at the Imperial War Museum collection in Duxford, Cambridgeshire, England. I have been fortunate enough to go there and see a B17 in flight at one of their air shows. Some of you might be interested in the information here:
http://aam.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.00h00f
Rob – enjoyed your various contributions – do you happen to know whereabouts in the UK that the Canadian Lancaster crew were stationed at the time of the events you outlined? Hope you can give us a Toronto election report vis a vis prospects for the Trolleys. One of my favourite things to do on visiting that city is to ride the streetcars. I happen to believe the TTC is one of the worlds top transit authorities.
Various contributions remind me that it is not unusual (if you know where to look) to find railway company memorial at UK stations (particularly the larger ones). Derby has an impressive memorial outside the station, and on Platform 1 it has various bronze plaques which I think were moved there from other railway buildings in the town since closed and demolished.
I saw at least one well looked after memorial inside Crewe Locomotive works when I went to the open day a year or so back. There is a particularly impressive memorial outside the 1st class waiting room on Platform 1 of London Paddington Station (itself worth a look inside too) – Tom if you make the Penzance Journey be sure to take a look at this. This is what Network Rail the current owners say about it:
“The memorial which was constructed immediately adjacent to the former Royal Waiting Rooms on platform 1 was unveiled on Armistice Day 1922 by Viscount Churchill, Chairman of the GWR Board and is dedicated to the 2,254 Great Western Railway employees who lost their lives in the Great War.
This was rededicated on 11th November 1949 when Sir James Milne unveiled additional tablets dedicated to the 794 Great Western men and women who lost their lives in the Second
World War. The memorial was designed by T.S.Tait of Burnet,Tait and Lorne and contains the magnificent Bronze statue of an infantryman reading a letter by Capt. Charles Sargeant Jagger completed in 1919.”
On another matter here is an interesting site I found just by chance – which has an armistice theme – since it is about the place where the actual armistice was signed:
http://www.webmatters.net/france/ww1_rethondes_2.htm
Finally I wanted to post a picture about the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch Railway in Southern England which showed this (frankly rather surreal) line – running its armoured train during WW2 – I could not find the picture direct but it is on this page so have a look and scroll down – you will not believe your eyes if you have not seen this before:
http://www.rhdr.org.uk/rhdr/history.html
This railway, despite being surreal – is a joy to visit – as you will see it is a narrow gauge line, but scaled down large engines work it – it was built for a millionaire racing driver in the 1920s essentially as a ‘toy’ and is still going strong today. I’m pretty sure the United Kingdom is the only place in the world where you could encounter such a thing. Lars – you asked where would we be without the Brits – well, without some serious eccentrics that is for sure!!
Apols for not posting these memorial related items closer to the 11th but events overtook me.
DL
G’day Gents!
A new day and work week (for many) has arrived. Best to begin it all with some pastries from the Mentor Village Bakery, a hot mug of freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee and of course a selection from the Menu Board of <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts!
As noted last night, we enjoyed yet another fine Sunday Photo Posting Day! Hope the Pix “load” for you, as I’ve experienced all kinds of delays and the like trying to get “up” on the Thread. <geesh>
I see that DL has begun our day, but unfortunately, whatever <gremlins> reside in the Ether, they seem to be inhibiting my ability to view the URLs. <groan> Perhaps later on this morning things may improve – we can only hope.
Certainly hope you were able to view the Friday thru Sunday spate of Veterans – Remembrance – Armistice Day Posts. Lotsagoodstuff, fer sure, fer sure! Are you still experiencing difficulties with the Pix “loading,” especially the Sunday spread
The Halifax VIA Rail terminal and adjacent hotel is very much out of balance – good observation, DL. I’ve Posted pictures of the area in the recent past – and would do so again, but if for the difficulties described.
Seems that Penzance has much to offer, aside from the “Pirates” that is! Thanx for the tip. Will check it out once the <gremlins> retreat into the recesses of the black hole they emerged from. <grin>
Ah yes, where indeed would we be without the Brits? The more I’ve traveled, the more I’ve read, the more I’ve listened, the more appreciation I have for the resolve, the mettle and the humor of those who contributed mightily to what we call the “western world.”
One of my favorite words is “change,” not that it always is for the better. However, as with the tides themselves, change is all about. People, morays, folkways and yes, nations themselves experience it. Given that I prefer to look back in time to see where we’ve been – my appreciation and fascination with the UK seems to flourish.
Pete and I have settled in on our trip to Montreal (Delson rail museum) and a round trip aboard VIA Rail to Gaspe. Looks like May will be “it.” And yes – the 2nd Annual “Our” Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis will take place on May 17th (arrival day) to 20th (departure day). Drop me an Email on either if you would like to join us.
Have some outside work this AM, in the chill and drizzle of the day – but no rest for the retired, eh
Boris, serve ‘em all of the “spiked” OJ they can handle!
Remember: Ruth comes in at 9 AM and remains behind the bar ‘til Leon takes over at 5 PM!
Tuesday’s THEME for the Day is
Chicago Great Western (CGW)!
Watch for the arrivals on track #1 throughout the day!
Greetings Cap'n Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
Well, it took me nearly the whole of the day to recharge my batteries from last night's venture to the Meadowlands and the Jints loss to "da Bears." <groan>
Ruth, I'll take a double JD on the rocks if you please and nothing to eat.
Seems like the Three Horsemen are holding things together on this Monday. Didn't even see CM3 I'm Not Shane! about the premises today. Hmmmmm, so that's quite a looooooooong weekend for our coalminer friend. Oh well, work hard - play hard is a motto many a sailor adheres to - coalmining folks too I suspect!
As a Norseman let me chime in with some more platitudes regarding the Brits. At this point in world affairs, wouldn't it be a huge plus IF we could muster up that resolve and forthrightness always associated with those who maintained the greatness of Great Britain What the world needs now isn't necessarily "love, sweet love" (as the song goes) what it needs is backbone!
One more, Ruith, then I gotta skedaddle. Time for "payback," as my Mrs. has been sooooooo good to me lately, and it's way past due for me to shoulder the load at home.
Good evening Leon , I see that you have spit polished the critter dens oh Boris did , I'm sure that he didn't use furniture polish. Well just a Keith's and here's a couple extra bucks for a round on me for the latter evening revelers.I enjoyed yesterdays photo's everyone, working my last of three midnight shifts tonight so this will be an abrieviated appearance tonight.
Pete-First off some wonderfull shots from Alan again , pass along our thanks aas always.I'm glad that you like the views of VRA , as Tom can attest she is quite a looker when you are upclose and under her wings ( which you can do when she's in the display hanger )The staff and restoration crews as well as the flight crews at warplane are all volenteeers,much of te crew that restored the plane over it's reconstruction phase were for the most part retired vets from the RCAF. Close inspection will show that the midupper is not exactly in the right position ( too far aft ) This was added in 1993. The aircraft that is there saw no WW2 combat it was a MK 10 built right near the end of the war at Victory Aircraft in Toronto ( now terminal two ) AS such it was taken on strength of the RCAF coastal command flying from Summerside PEI and Greenwood NS ubtil it and the rest of the patrol lancs wer retired in the 60's.She also has Avro Lincoln main landing assemblies and oleo's which tend to squeek when she taxis ( a bit larger than original Lancaster parts )I have to say that GG Clarkson was one of the better one's we have had ( at least one's I can remember ) her speaches always were from the heart.
Nick-Thank-you for the wonderfull shots of the Western Front Locomotives
Eric-I'm glad that you were able to read the Mynarski story one of the more heart rendering one's ( one of 100's from the war ) I met the tailgunner he saved about a year before he passed away. truly a remarkable man, always highly nostalgic about Andy.I can't even begin to fathom what the Railway Corps went through, they just did their jobs with out failing.I have to say that the GG's speach on the reinterment of te unkonwn had real meaning for my family.As a side story my Great Grandfather lived through the Hell of the Attack on Vimy Ridge came through without a scratch.His cousin was not so lucky he was killed in the first hours of that successfull battle. He is one of the unknown in that his remains were nevr identified.For all I know the gentleman that's burried in Ottawa could be my great Grandfathers cousin, a stretch to be sure as there wree 27,000 Canadains killed during tthe first world war that fall into the unknown category as to where they were burried.
Tom-I have to say a truly wonderfull outpouring on Fri and sat. Thanks to you for all your efforts as well.And yes that was you in that picture ( hope I caught your best side )Nice to see that you "found" a copy of Buster. I sahll endevour to dig something up for tomorrows Theme. spelling will be awfull as I'll not have had much sleep.
Mike-Thanks for the shots of the vets train and the old nostalgic shots of halifax and the Basin. *** Tom has said not much in the way of heavy marine traffic there now. Though it still is a large container port and ten canadian Atlantic Fleet still calls Halifax / Dartmouth Home.
Doug-I hope all your moving went well and that no underwear or more importantly none of your reference material has been burried in boxes.
Dl-Thank-you for this mornings contributions both to the 11th and the interesting articles on preserved steam. another place in which Europe far outstrips efforts on thuis side of the lake.You are correct in the positioning of the belly turrets on the Lancs or lack there of. It was felt that a bigger bomb capacity and less crew was the way to go on the Lancs and the Halifax's. That and the fact that they did the night ops. Unfortunatly well placed attacks had that effect.I can't lay my finger on the exact bases which the 419 SQD operated from. they were part of the RCAF's six wing, I want to say central England for their bases but I'll have to do a bit of research to confirm or deny. Looks as though it will be a landslide for TO's mayor the final numbers aren't in bu he is expected to win handily, so the TTC is safe for another 4 years.
Lars-Loved your hallmark book covers. The rights of passage book is a wonderfull read I recomend it highly
BK-Well I hope both you and Lydia have a safe and enjoyable trip. A happy Thanks Giving to you inadvance. I don't imagine the removal of the pests and the dissapearance of one is that much of a coincidence.
Rob
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house.
Notre Dame is in good shape, 9-1 and climbing in the polls.
If they don't beat Army it's all over of course.
Rob, half a million Canadian troops were in Halifax at least once.
I was there briefly in '94 coming back from Prince Edward Island.
Walked around and stayed overnight. It's a great city.
Armored train patrol searching for Norwegian partisans (blame DL for this one)
http://www.dypevag.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ships_files/search.jpg
Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway miniature locomotive
http://www.narrow-gauge-pleasure.co.uk/images/armouredtrain.jpg
http://www.catnip.co.uk/tracks/england/photos/rhd01.jpg
http://www.rhdr.org.uk/rhdr/engines/galleries/images/05_head_image_full.jpg
http://www.rhdr.org.uk/rhdr/location_art/location_map_2003_200.gif
Coney Island Miniature Railway
http://images.nypl.org/?id=801285&t=w
Victor Mature and Coast Guard waiting for a train in 1945
http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvn-jpgs/RVN08981.jpg
http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/rvn-jpgs/RVN08982.jpg
Caroline Mars
http://www.usmc9thsbc.org/jrmcm1.jpg
http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/collections/cushman/full/P04070.jpg
11/11/06 Poppies in Afghanistan
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061111/capt.b963c8e66f8f4a999058787f4a215c9c.afghanistan_canada__kandx101.jpg?x=380&y=238&sig=WRZmlKDkKO_PxCdd0cJcBg--
"Thou shall not be afraid for the terror by night, nor for the arrow that flieth by day
for he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways."
Mike
Good evening Tom and friends! The move is nearly completed, so I'd say that deserves a bottlemless draught and a round for the house! Just got a few more things to grab at the ole' farmhouse now, take care of some garbage and clean the place up for the next renters. SHould be able to wrap that up tomorrow night, and I kinda need to. I'm not paying the utilities there after the 15th. Yes Tom... I am rediscovering train materials I have not seen since we moved to the farmhouse. Now I just need to get some bookshelves and get organized so I can better participate here. It's not easy catching-up with all the great stuff you guys posted. I am humbled by the submissions. Sorry about the Bear game last night Lars . I was starting to wonder if our guys were real or what. I guess they're real. Of course, the really big game is Saturday when my OSU Buckeyes play the hated Wolverines. I guess that's the real championship game this year. That reminds me .... I have a whole pocket full of quarters for the jukebox .... do we have the OSU fight song? I'll buy another round if we do!
Anyhow ...just wanted to pop-in and let you know we're doing fine here. Here's the link with some new-home pictures:
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Barndad/stuff/
Have you ever noticed... anybody going slower than you is an idiot. And anyone going faster is a maniac. * George Carlin *
A pint and a round please LEON in the memory Of Dai Woodham as in DLs post.
As you say DL the steam preseravtion scene would be very much poorer with out the locos saved from the Barry Scrapyard. I first visited the yard in 1968 when the yard was about full and the sight of over 200 locos was unbelieveable. I was once there in the first light of dawn in the early 70s a wonderful but sad experiance as it was not known then that so many of the locos would be saved then.
Yes most of the locos were from the Western and Southern Regions of BR, in fact only one ex LNER loco, B1 4-6-0 No 61264 made it there, and it is said that the 2 Great Western King class got to Barry by mistake.
It was lucky that there are 3 Duchesses preserved as 46229 and 6233 were bought by Sir Billy Butlin in the 60s and placed in his holiday camps along with Royal Scot and Princess Margret Rose.
One fact that is not often talked about was that Dai Woodhams yard also had two North British diesel locomotives in the yard. They were one of the NB A1A-A1A Hydraulics D601 Ark Royal and D 6122 a Bo-Bo diesel electric.Both were cut up I believe, this was before the diesel preservation movement really got going.The locos were the last members of their class to servive if I remember right..
I am sure our N. American friends will enjoy the link to the American Air Museum at Duxford..
Very interesting about the Armistice car. I did not know that the original was destroyed.
Great link to the Romsey Hythe and Dymchurch Railway, it really is a great line to ride, especially when two trains are passing at speed. I believe a few years ago now The Bug had the appearaence of the armour plating re-applied, I seem to recall seeing pictures of her in the Railway magazines at the time. I dont know how long it was kept in this condidtion. I hope the regulars have a look at the locomotives in the link, as Dr Syn and Sir Winston Churchill look very North American in appearance.
Alan enjoyed his trip Saturday they had two trips on the test track. the locos were 60013 and 67016, with a Virgin 57 at the test track.
There must be some good info from your other half's father it must have very interesting working at the BR Research in Derby.
BEWARE KIMBERLY the two Alans are heading that way, I have asked him to give us a report on the station and the beer..
BK Hope the forum problems are solved quickly for you, these puters ARE great things but when you cant get to what you want to there is nothing more annoying, apart from bottom feeders.
LARS Watched most of the game last night, the weather was like an English soccer match. the Giants looked well in control until the last 2 minutes of the first half.
Many thanks for your and Tom,s comment on the Brits, certainly of the last generation.The Norweigian Resistance also performed many brave and daring acts..
ROB I will pass on to Alan your comments on the pics.
Thanks for the info on the Lanc. The voulunteers have done a fine job on the restoration. I too hope you can find out where 419 squadron was based, if it was in the Midlands it may not have been far from my home town.
In Canada with regards to volunteers, wether at railway or at any transport preservsation, are there younger people getting involved and learning from the older generation who had first hand experience of the locos planes etc. I know in the UK there is a great concern that some of the trades and skills could be lost .
TOM. It seems a bad day for the puters, I could not get connected to the net, when I did it seemed to working real slow, yet when I got onto the forum at least I could see what was there.
It seems as though DL is trying to tempt you to see the Romney railway in Kent. It really is a unique experience they had a bar car on some trains. I seem to remember seeing some old newsreel footage of Laurel and Hardy on the railway at its reopening after the war.
Thanks for the kind words on the Brits it is probably our weird sense of humor that keeps us going .
Well I'll have a Kimberley Bitter please LEON, at least it will still be available at Our Place even when the brewery shuts.
Gentlemen all,before I go any further,much respect to all for this weekends observance-TOM and Bar Chandler ROB are due especial praise for their efforts,as the saying goes,above and beyond the call of duty................nice one guys
Bit of a scattershot contribution this night( that reminds me,Leon-give these men a drink or three on me...)
ERIC-fine shots of the B17-everybody else in that theatre of war painted their planes in camoflage colours-not the Yanks-bright silver-" If you want some,come and get it....!!!!!"-and I say this with the greatest of respect for a job well done-we had the night flights -you guys did the daylight runs...........
ROB -those airplane pix are wonderful-classic vehicles--P.S.on a more irreverent note,r.e e-mail,it` definately the cat-the guy in the bottom pic is called Henry Thomas and he plays scrum -half for the Llangwm Wasps rugby team
TOM-As ever,we follow where you lead,wonderful selection of pix and everything else-e-mail received and responded to.
Right,depending on which reality you subscribe to,there are two reasons for this late pix posting:-
1--Boris has been complaining for several days about a strong smell of troll about the place so I have spent the last 2 nights sitting on the roof wrapped in arctic grade coveralls armed with the notorious `Our Place` 7-barrelled black powder blunderbuss loaded with screws and nails from the track gang stores in vain hopes of a sighting.........
or:-........
2:-Had a lunchtime show with the blues band yesterday,bar opened at 11.00 am for the veterans coming back from church parade,as we were there setting up we were included in the general company,kept it together until after we had played (to much critical acclaim it must be said)-but then stayed on to watch "Snatchitback" -the main band of the afternoon,free beer-you know how it is -I can`t remember the last time I had a gallon of beer on a sunday afternoon-it was that sort of day.
Delivered home to Missisnick (not best pleased it must be said ) dinner and bed in short order-all this on the back of a horribly late night on Sat. (blues band again).......
Very penitant this morning......................................................
right,pix:-
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Here we have a foursome of J94 "Errol Lonsdale " on the Gwili Rly -the former Carmarthen -Aberystwyth line
Here we have ALCO 2-6-2t "Mountaineer" on the Festiniog rly
Here we have an ex-ROD Baldwin 4-6-0t on the Glyn Valley Tramway
Another Baldwin on the Welsh Highland rly
I think this is a Hunslet,could be a 4-4-0t,or poss. a 4-6-0t,in the car-park of the Welsh Highland (1964) company at Portmadoc
And just to show the other side of the coin,another outing for "Sir Drefaldwyn",a German or Austrian 0-8-0t on the Welshpool & Llanfair Lt rly
A mixed bag of ex Royal .Navy.Armament .Depot 4 whl vans and Hudson bogie vehicles
two ex ROD Hudson bogie wagons with a 2-ton slate wagon sandwiched between them
LEFT-another 2 hudson bogies with an ex RNAD van converted to a brake/tool van RIGHT-KATIE-I`ve no idea as to her origins but she earns her living taking tourists round a small loop of track at another ex RNAD site just outside Llanelli
This one has been here before---top left-Snowdon,bottom left Festiniog engine (Welsh Pony ? ) with station mistress in Welsh costume,emulating Bessie Jones at Tan-Y-Bwlch on the Festiniog,middle of shot W.H.R "Russell",bottom right ex ROD `Hudson bogie wagons delivering coal-Beddgelert,mid `30`s
O.K boys ,apologies to everyone I`ve failed to mention tonight--will try and get back with the programme tomorrow
Leon-a round for everyone (including Boris & Copperkettle)
Take care guys...................
nick
G-day Tom and all present!
I just wanted to let you know that I am back in town. A great weekend it was. I will explain more tomorrow. I just wanted to check in on everything.
I will begin the real posting tomorrow. Just by the looks of it, it seems to have been a great weekend around here too. Some great looking photos out there.
Well I will say goodnight for now but will be back later tomorrow and post a longer more meaningful entry!
Happy railroading.
James
TOM-Be strong in adversity-These things are sent to try us................................................
Hi Tom and everyone
I’ll start the day with a light breakfast, juice and coffee please.
Various comments on forum access demand a contribution I guess. I must say I have never had problem getting access, and links always work (eg Mike’s links). Only glitches surround photos. EG Nick’s photos never show, James and Rob’s photos always show – most other people’s photos sometimes show, sometimes not (although more often not than do I guess). I can’t imagine Kalmbach make much money out of providing the forums so I suppose I’m prepared to put up with it – actually – it occurs to me that this illustrates a difference between our respective attitude to service – in North America you guys expect the thing to work and are prepared to make the point when it doesn’t – here in the UK you’d just accept the provider didn’t care too much and making the point is a waste of breath! Your tenacity is admirable.
Oh yes, and the idea of ‘rating’ the forums is just plain daft. No point at all.
So – back to matters raised.
Tom – Delson – Gaspe trip – sounds excellent – look forward to a report back in the fullness of time – hope VIA keep the Budd equipment on that route well into next year!
Mike – nice one with the pics – thanks for locating what I could not find. Like Eric – I’m keen to know more about that Flying Boat – a classic era machine no doubt – any volunteers to tell us more?
Tom – just a thought – but Bedford Basin / Halifax Harbour – was it not simply an issue around the fact that due to the existence narrows Bedford basin could be easily secured against sub attack in wartime with nets so the basin got so busy – but in peace time no real reason for large ships to come through the Narrows? I thought you might have a view on this knowing the area etc. If US convoys got together in east coast ports (as no doubt they did) were there natural geographical features like this to help protect them? I know subs prowling east coast USA were a problem.
Pete – Barry must have been awesome but very depressing too at the time – given you would never have believed then had anyone told you that the locos would one day be saved. Presumably that was beyond everyone’s wildest dreams at the time. Interesting footnote re the WR diesels too – did not know about that. A shame that quite a few of the Modernisation Plan designs did not make it to preservation, esp the duff designs. Mind you I was pleased to see the Metro Vick Co-Bo at Crewe works open day – I look forward to seeing that again one day in running order:
http://www.d5705.org.uk/start.html
Overseas readers might be interested in background here: The BR Modernisation Plan was launched in 1955 and included large plans to dieselise and electrify – At the time the UK had a large (mostly steam) loco building and export business and no doubt government thought that by ensuring a reasonable supply of domestic orders for these companies they could develop good diesel designs and continue to compete internationally. Problem was too many trial designs from too many manufacturers were built – many of which were not up to the job. A lot of money was wasted, and many Brit manufacturers went to the wall anyway – GM etc ending up gaining the vast share of the export market as you will know. With the benefit of hindsight the Brit Govt should have forced some of these companies into mergers where they could have come up with a decent range of machines with half a chance of competing with the tried and tested US designs. Instead most of the industry went to the wall and most of the works locations are now good for nothing out of town retail parks selling pointless consumer goods made for the best part in the far east…I digress.
I’d forgotten about the Butlins holiday camps – loco links – bit of luck there obviously.
I look forward to a Kimberley report back in due course – also – forgot to mention – if they take the tram and want to see it fully show its paces it is worth taking it north of Wilkinson Street stop – this is the point where it goes off street onto dedicated line (beside the MR Mansfield / Worksop railway line) and really accelerates up to high speed – impressive. The short branch to Phoenix Park follows the old colliery access line to Cinderhill Colliery - up to colliery closure in about 1988 this was for coal. Phoenix Park is a business park built on site of the colliery. Alan may be interested in this.
BR Research – yes the father in law (or ‘out law’ since we are not married) has interesting stories but he is not an enthusiast so they need to be prised out of him. He did much theoretical work (as a mathematician) ie not an engineer directly, worked on APT and other projects (hence my need to defend family honour vis a vis Virgin Pendolino!!!) Get this – he (and his wife too of course) have a 1st class all British lines pass for unlimited travel – any time, any day, any place – and hardly makes much use of it!! What would I give for one of those when I retire….
There is an interesting website done by a former Railway Tech Centre person which has some good stuff on it though – here – worth a look:
http://www.traintesting.com/
Rob – Hope this does not pre-empt any of your own research but had a quick look re RCAF 419 Sqdn and found out they were based at RAF Middleton St George near Darlington in North East England. Apparently this is now the civil airport for the region – Durham / Tees Valley. Link here with some good pictures of RCAF Lancs and some info pasted below. I’d asked because I was aware so many RAF / RCAF / USAAF bomber bases (and others) were based across central England, Lincolnshire and East Anglia not so far from here.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phillip.charlton/teesside.html
RAF Middleton St George Officers Mess, photographed in April 1945. The concrete square in the centre of the grass 'roundabout' in front of the main entrance now bears a memorial cairn to the 3 squadrons of the RCAF based here. Opened in 1941, Teesside was originally home to RAF squadrons, but they moved out the next year to make way for the RCAF Middleton St George became part of the famous Canadian 6 Group. Home to 419, 420 & 428 Sqns, MStG saw the only VC awarded to an airman of the RCAF Bomber Command, Pilot Officer Andrew Mynarski of 419 Sqn being the recipient. Every year veterans of the RCAF that were stationed here return to pay homage to their fallen comrades.
Location County: - Durham, 5 miles E of Darlington
Lat/Long: 54:30:45N 01:25:30W
Operational Control: - Opened – 1941 No 6 (RCAF) Group (1944) Closed – 1965, Opened as Teesside Airport in November 1966, now known as Durham/Tees Valley Airport.
Cheerio for now – look forward to the theme day where I will learn about something I know nothing about!
Tuesday here in mid-continent USA has emerged as a rather grey and cloudy morning. There’s a bit of a chill in the air as the temps are in the low 40s (F). Petrol up at “Collusion Corner” was $2.09 (rounded) when I passed by yesterday.
I note the activity continued after my departure, so let me get to the acknowledgments!
James at 9:36 PM yesterday: As you play “catch up,” take note regarding how many of us have sent Emails to the Forums Manager. Your participation in this can only help in trying to rid the Forums of the “ratings system.” Looking forward to your resumption of activities . . .
Nick at 10:20 PM yesterday: You mean like “jock itch” and mosquitoes <grin>
Eric at 12:04 AM today: Wasn’t able to enlarge that foto, until now. I found the red arrow – so THAT’s you, eh Haven’t changed a bit in the 43 years that have passed, I bet! <grin>
Regarding “Rites of Passage,” I have that book in my modest collection of hardcover RR books. Found it to be an excellent read, sure there’s nostalgia, but nothing to ruin anyone’s happy frame of mind. Highly recommended!
In the “who knows” department – I use FireFox and couldn’t say for sure whether it has been the culprit regarding any of my issues with these Forums. Whenever the gremlins appear, I’ll jump out of FireFox and back to the “generic” Windows browser – with no appreciable difference. So, the “one size fits all” approach surely hasn’t helped, has it
Appreciate your inclusive Posts and participation with us!
DL at 5:33 AM today: Beginning to think that a day without a Post from DL-UK is a day without sunshine! Another fine contribution to the dialogue and one that is your “standard” – diverse and chock full o’ relevant and most educational “stuff”!
Of the naturally protected sea ports along the east coast of the U.S., I’d say New York has the finest of harbors. It is huge in comparison with any others, including Halifax. What made and makes NY such an attraction for shipping are the shoreside facilities enabling transfer of cargo from ships to rail and trucking. The port infrastructure during the “war years” was incredible insofar as pretty much being able to accommodate all requirements for the maritime industry. Being located in a more mariner-friendly latitude insofar as weather and sea conditions are concerned, adds to the lure as well.
While the Nazi U-boats were prowling the seas off of our east coast, the port of NY was well protected. I recall as a youngster being taken to places along the New Jersey shore where one could see the smoke on the horizon from the ships that were attacked by the wolf packs. They were that close. Must have been tough on my mother and grandfather to wonder whether my father’s ship was the target either “out there” or in some other equally vulnerable place on the seas.
I thoroughly enjoyed the URL and piece on the MetroVick diesels. Thanx! The Brit diesel modernization plan reminds me of someone’s definition of a committee that I heard many decades past. Something like this: a group of learned people ordered to come up with a design for a horse, with the result being more like that for a camel. It’s a pity, but when government enters the mix, well more times than not the result may be explained in the acronym FUBAR – a term we used quite often in the military.
Also the information regarding the RAF Middleton St. George is a most enlightening read too. Has it really been THAT long ago <grin>
Okay, ‘nuf from me as I’ve got to prepare my Theme for the Day! material . . .
THEME for the DAY! - THEME for the DAY!
Now arriving on track #1
Railroads from Yesteryear!
Number Twenty Five
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources.
Chicago Great Western Railway
Reporting marks
CGW
Locale
Chicago, Illinois, Minneapolis, Minnesota and Omaha, Nebraska to Kansas City, Kansas
Dates of operation
1885 – 1968
Track gauge
4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)
Headquarters
Oelwein, Iowa / Chicago, Illinois
The Chicago Great Western Railway (AAR reporting mark CGW) was a Class I railroad that linked Chicago, Minneapolis, Omaha, and Kansas City. It was founded by Alpheus Beede Stickney in 1885 as a regional line between St. Paul and the Iowa state line called the Minnesota & Northwestern Railroad. Through mergers and new construction, the railroad, named Chicago Great Western after 1909, quickly became a multi-state carrier. One of the last Class I railroads to be built, it competed against several other more well-established railroads in the same territory, and developed a corporate culture of innovation and efficiency to survive.
Nicknamed the Corn Belt Route because of its operating area in the midwestern United States, the railroad was sometimes called the Lucky Strike Road, due to the similarity in design between the herald of the CGW and the logo used for Lucky Strike cigarettes.
It was merged with the Chicago and North Western Railway (CNW) in 1968, which abandoned most of the CGW's trackage.
The History of the Chicago Great Western
The Stickney Years
Alpheus Beede Stickney was a lawyer-turned-railroad magnate who had found work in management of several railroads before striking out on his own.
The Chicago Great Western, circa 1897.
In 1854, the Legislature of the Territory of Minnesota had chartered the Minnesota and Northwestern Railroad (M&NW) to be built between Lake Superior, Minneapolis and Dubuque, Iowa. However, it stayed dormant until purchased by Stickney and another investor in 1883. Immediately, the railroad began building, and by 1886 had constructed a line
G-day Tom and all present.
Wow. I can't believe how much a person can miss in three days. But none the less, I am Catching up right now.
Ruth- I think a sandwich is needed at hand, and a coffee with the vanilla splash, Please
There were some amazing photos shown throughout "Our Place" this past weekend. Especially the ones for the Veterans memorial day. Some of those were pretty cool. Really liked the Aerial view of all the battle ships and carriers. Very nice. Some cool pics from Sunday. Liked the Via rail commuter trains. Got to like passenger service.
What an amazing weekend. I went to another train show. (last one for quite sometime now.) But it's one of the biggest. The NMRA (National Model Railroad Association) show in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 250,000 thousand square feet of model trains of all sizes. From Z to G and even bigger. I bought some stuff at some unbelievable prices too. I got two locomotives and 9 railcars. One of the locomotives is a B30-7 with sound and DCC. The other is a U25B early version. This locomotive would have a longer nose than most. I will be posting pics of them tomorrow.
Now! I will be going on to catch up. This is from 3 or 4 pages ago.
Pete- Glad you liked the pics. I also like the 2-10-2. I just wish I owned it but I don't. It's acually a friends locomotive that I was reprogramming. Runs really nice too. I have been storeing it now for the past two or three months at the locomotive terminal. Thanks for the date on the train robbery. I couldn't believe they robbed that train. I don't know what planet the robbers were on.
Eric- When you do get a hold of the book, you will enjoy it. It is one of the best books that I own. I love the color photos in it. It should be a good source of info for you.
Rob- The layout is indeed progressing, just.. not very fast. Something like sleeping on the job.. Need to get back at it.
Well, what ever form of rail transportation is fine with me. In fact, if it's and electric railway system that you like, I'm with ya. I love electrification. It's something I have always been interested in and learning new electrified railways, big or small, is always welcome.
Tom- I have to agree that the "rating system" is annoying. Especially if it's a thread that we like. So if you could give me directions to the managers e-mail I would be glad to send a message. I know it sounds really dumb that I have no idea how to contact him for as long as I have been on here.
Anyway: I don't know if I quoted everybody, so if I missed someone here, let me know. There was a lot to read and look at.
Now for some pics of the Chicago Great Western.
Now here is a line up of F-units. Now I am not the best at telling what kind of f-unit these are but I think there F7s.
Picture from: www.pbase.com/image/48789312
Picture by: William J. Manon Jr.
This is a photo of one of the CGWs depots. Located in Elizabeth, Illinois, you can tell this hasn't been used for sometime. But has been restored bueatifully.
Happy railroading
Good Evening Gents!
Yes, we’ve become a late afternoon ‘n evening gathering place. That’s fine, just as long as the basic tenets hold up – focus on the discussion of Classic Trains – have some fun while doing it – be respectful of the other guy – acknowledge the works of all who contribute – be inclusive with your comments and above all, check the emotional baggage at the door!
Special THANX to BK, Lars ‘n James for supporting the Tuesday Theme for the Day!
BK at 10:44 AM today: Thanx to Lydia for finding those Pix! Getting more ‘n more difficult to locate the unencumbered photos. I’ve said it before – why put anything into the Ether if one expects to maintain a “hold” on it Really don’t see how that works.
Really appreciate your support for these “Theme” days, as without you ‘ Lars, I’d probably give up on doing ‘em. Used to be a time when we had all kinds of participation during the day – but that’s no longer the case. I do note that those who browse our Thread are continuing to do so in rather large numbers – but no willingness to join us. So be it. I’d much rather maintain the interested small group we have rather than become an unwieldy home for one-way postings.
Have a safe trip to the states and hope your Thanksgiving with the family turns out even better than you anticipate!
Lars at 2:45 PM today: Dittos to you regarding the consistent participation in the Tuesday Theme for the Day! This one was a bit difficult, and for that my apologies. Kinda running out of material!
Figured you’d have sailed the major ports of the Atlantic and surely Halifax has to be included. The problem they have is as you cited – remoteness. Nova Scotia is indeed a remote arm of Canada and just getting to and from Halifax within Canada isn’t that easy or direct. All of that plays heavily into the decisions of foreign ships wishing to engage in trade at the port. I’ve read where Quebec is trying to redirect shipping interests into Seaway thereby giving them some “clout” on the international scene.
Great looking steam locos and thanx Gawd for yesteryeardepot.com!!
James at 4:36 PM today: Nice contribution from you, Sir and it’s good to know we can count on your interest and participation.
Yes, we seem to be amassing more ‘n more material lately and that does require willingness, patience and time to catch up after an absence. All part of what goes on ‘round the Tavern by the Tracks! <grin.
Looking forward to your Pix tomorrow – which if anyone needs reminding is our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! here at the Saloon by the Siding!
For James: This is from Page 426 on Nov 10th at 5:51 AM:
If anyone is having problems figuring out how to contact the Forums Manager, here’s “how” – (1) at the bottom of this page you will find “contact us” – click it (2) fill out the form; be sure to scroll down to get it all (3) in the “select the topic of your interest or question ” block – click “forums Manager” (4) be sure to fill out the “CODE VALIDATION” block Happy Railroading! Siberianmo « First«283284285286287288289»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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