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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:42 PM
Hey, I' m needing a water after the brandy. I've never imbided that spirit before. The loudness doesn't faze me. Too many years of loud rock n roll, small arm and artillery fire, and now loco horns means I'm half deaf. It does seem a bit darker in here than usual, though. I will not walk in the kitchen-do not want to interrupt any OJT!
Tom, if the law is already here, does that mean their compatriots will not raid OUR PLACE for excessive noise and rowdiness??
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:28 PM
Well Nick better watch it - she's a teacher at the all female unviersity up the road and no doubt whatever it is you are learning, there WILL be an exam! [}:)]
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:26 PM
Hey Tom-that Cindy is some gal [bow][^][:-,]-- I may be some time,nick[C=:-)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:23 PM
Hillbillies

A guy walks into a bar in West Virginia and orders a white wine.
All the hillbillies sitting around the bar look up, expecting to see some pitiful Yankee from the north.

The bartender says, "You ain't from around here, are ya?"

The guy says, "No, I'm from Canada."

The bartender says, "What do you do in Canada?"

The guy says, "I'm a taxidermist."

The bartender says, "A taxidermist? What in tarnation is a taxidermist? Do you drive a taxi?"

"No, a taxidermist doesn't drive a taxi. I mount animals."

The bartender grins and hollers, "It's okay boys. He's one of us."

Party on!
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:18 PM
Hey Nick What's the point in having the Juke blaring away along with the 3 large screen TV's and the din of the crowd in here [?] And where did that lilve band come from [?] West Wales is my guess! [tup] [swg]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:16 PM
Hey Dan [bday] to you - 43 and counting! [tup] Put aside any bad thoughts and join the gang in celebration of YOUR day! [tup]

Nick is in the kitchen - I'd be a bit careful about just walking in on him - Cindy may be getting some OJT, since it's her first time back there! [}:)]
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:16 PM
Aha -I see the birthday boy has joined us,welcome Dan-[bday][bday] hope your having a good one so far,pull up a waitress & relax,the beers are set up,the food will be ready by the time you`ve taken the bite off of your thirst and if the music gets much louder we`ll be losing roof tiles--ENJOY !!! [C=:-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:07 PM
Hello everyone! A cold one to get me primed for the corned beef and cabbage! Then another one to wash down the bad email I just read. But hey- this is a celebration! Let's enjoy the entertainment that has been arranged and watch these one classic movies!
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:05 PM
Hey Nick Really appreciate your staying up so late to join us in the Party for earlydiesels Dan - In case you haven't heard - open bar this fine night!

Cindy is waiting for YOU back in the kitchen! [}:)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 6:59 PM
Good Evening Gunns [tup] Somewhere 'round here is the coffee urn - I'm sure we'll find it in amongst all the Party stuff......

We kinda like the light breakfast fare, but, should you become a regular breakfast customer I'm sure when Boris returns, he'll fix you right up with your hot choices ....... [:-,]

That was one quick turn around with the photo album ... took me about 72 hours go get up and running .... good deal. Interesting photo ...

Gotta get back to the bar ......
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, June 24, 2005 6:56 PM
Hey Tom,set em up for the house if you will with a large brandy chaser for the birthday boy....[bday][bday] just slippling through to the kitchen to fire up the stove and catch up on some post,see you in a bit,nick[C=:-)]
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Posted by Gunns on Friday, June 24, 2005 6:14 PM
Morning all, <its reall allmost 1700 here but thats when I get up on work days, I work from 2200 till 800>

Menue suggestion >Breakfast Burritos< Want Red Chilii and eggs n carne adovada<

Finally got my photo link set up <actually 1 day is excellent turnaround time> So here is A pic of our "War Baby"

http://www.railimages.com/albums/kevinevans/aaa.jpg

Thanks for the info on the El Pasoan, All I really knew about it was that the 2926 hauled it as it's last revanue run in the 50s. As soon I can peel the photos out of the camera I'll put up the pix I took in Santa Fe Yesterday <of the 5030 a texas 2-10-4 made in 1944> sadly the Builders Plate and Boiler data plate were missing on that Locomotive also. I did however get some shots of the boiler shell where the had removed the lagging, and the pitting damage was much lower than expected. This is good as our engine 2926 was stored in Albuqurque in a much drier climate than Santa Fe.

No suds for now, <8 hr rule dont ya know......> but a snack and coffie would do.

and >>>HAPPY Geburtstdag<<<<< earlydiesels Dan

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 5:32 PM
[bday] [bday] earlydiesels Dan [bday] [bday] [tup] [tup] [tup]

Parfty Time at "Our" Place

Let the Birthday Bash begin! [yeah]

We've got the full staff here tonight - EXCEPT for Boris, he's got the night off thanx to Nick and his wise anticipatation ........ [swg]

I see the pool tables are being used - Juke is blaring away - movies on all three large screen TV's - ALL the gals are working tonight - Can-Am track gang is here - Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary along with his new found friend, Mr. Dolye, Private Investigator are providing security - so sit back, relax and let earlydiesels Dan know you are here! [yeah]

We expect to see Dan and Nick live at around 7 PM CDST! [tup]

So, whatillyahave [?]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 1:34 PM
G'day coalminer3 and thanx for labor you put forth in your last post. [tup] Sure brings back some thoughts of those wonderful times for those who used the passenger trains of America.

I have a well used edition of The Official Guide of ther Railways and Steam Navigation Lines of the Unites States - Puerto Rico - Canada - Mexico and Cuba. Mine is the August 1956 edition of the monthly publication. Within its pages one can easily find themselves immersed in nostalgia beyond belief. [wow]

The advertisements alone a worth whatever this book cost my son at a flea market sale. For example, full page ads for the Pennsylvania Railroad, New York Central System, Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway for openers. The steamship companies like the Grace Line - Waterman - Lykes Line and Moore-McCormack representative of the days when the USA had many, many flag vessels along with a huge Merchant Marine. Pages and pages of airline schedules for companies long gone, Eastern Air Lines - National Airlines - Colonial Airlines - Trans-Canada Airlines and Trans World Airlines are but a few.

But, the fun of browsing this publication is to imagine putting together a passenger rail itinerary - from wherever to nearly anywhere. I like to recreate trips that I made back then, or to come up with routes for others I would have dearly loved to have taken. Goes on and on ...... [yeah] [tup]

I gather we won't be seeing you at this evening's Birthday Bash for earlydiesels Dan - well, I'm sure he'll catch your well wishes!

Enjoy the weekend and thanx again for your continuing contributions to "Our" Place [tup] [;)]
Tom
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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, June 24, 2005 12:28 PM
Coffee to go, please.

Note to passengerfan. Let me know what kind of info. you are hunting for. I bet with the regional coverage provided by our "regulars" and other visitors, we can come up with just about anything.

One facet of passenger service that has always interested me is some of the "long way around" interline services provided by large carriers. I just happened to find a February 10, 1942 PRR timetable in the "stack of stuff," and will provide an example.

Table "M" in this humongous tt covers interline service via the PRR and N&W between Chicago and Norfolk. I am sure back then that this line carried a ton of military traffic.

Anyway, the traveler had two through trains each way. Here are the consists:

Train 200 "Southland"
10 section lounge car: Chicago-Norfolk
8 section/buffet lounge: Chicago-Cincinnati
10 rtte/5 db: Chicago-Cincinnati
12 section/drawing room: Chicago-Springfield (In PRR 204 from Richmond)
10 rtte/5db: Chicago -Dayton
Coach: Chicago-Cincinnati

Train 200 departed Chicago at 11:40 p.m. with a 7:30 a.m. arrival in Cincinnati. The connecting N&W train departed Cincinnati at 11:40 a.m. with a 7:15 a.m. arrival in Norfolk.

Train 208, the Union was the second Chicago-Norfolk service.
This had a 10 section/lounge Chicago-Norfolk sleeper
and a 10 section/3 db sleeper Cincinnati -Winston Salem (an interesting car plan when you think abt it)
A parlor car operated between Chicago and Columbus, a diner longe between Chicago and Cinccinnati. and coaches between Chicago, and Columbus, Cincinnati, and Norfolk

Returning, PRR 215 was the "Chicago Daylight Express." It handled the Norfolk-Chicago and Winston-Salem-Cincinnati cars, along with a diner/lounge and coaches.

Train 201, the "Southland" handled a lounge sleepers and a coach between Cincinnati and Chicago. One of the sleepoers ran out of Cincinnati and the others were picked up en route at Springfield and Dayton. The Springfield and Dayton cars were switched out to PRR 203 at Richmond

Train 237-109, the "Chicago Night Express" provided connecting service from the N&W at Cincinnati. It handled a 10 section/lounge car en route from Norfolk.

The interesting part abt. this is all of the short cars that were handled on these trains and the set outs and pickups that were involved; this is something a lot of people forget when they look at passenger service: Pullmans went to a lot of place.

Now let's close with a fine piece of advertising copy (most folks know I am an NYC follower, but the Great Tuscan Father is not to be ignored...)

IN AND OUT OF WASHINGTON - VIA PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD'S ALL-WEATHER FLEET

Take it from Chicago-There's a fleet of 5 every day - paced by the popular luxury leader, Liberty Limited, offering a complete range of Pullman accommodations as well as reclining seat coaches.

For travel luxury at low coach fares-The Trail Blazer carries through Washington coaches

And from St. Louis - Four fine trains daily to Washington-the all-Pullman Spirit of St. Louism the luxury all-coach Jeffersonian, the American, and Pennsylvania Limited.

From
Cleveland - The Clevelander
Akron - The Akronite
Detroit - The Red Arrow
Buffalo - The Dominon Express

Washington-New York: 40 all-electric trains daily, led by The Congressional (226 miles in 215 minutes)

Washington-New England-Eastern Canada
A fine fleet daily, through without change via the Hell Gate Bridge

Well, that's enough nostalgia for now, but it was too good not to post.

Happy birthday and andjoy the celebration. I trust all of the fire extinguishers have been checked and certified.

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, June 24, 2005 10:10 AM
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The big day has arrived for earlydiesels Dan [bday] HAPPY 43rd BIRTHDAY! [bday]

Don’t want to jump the gun on this, but it appears that we may have a new customer in Gunns – Kevin. Again, [#welcome] and hope you find the time to visit us on a regular basis! [tup] [;)]

PARTY TIME THIS EVENING – DAN and NICK said they’d try to be on line with us around 7 PM CDST. Stop in whenever you can to wish [bday] to Dan and partake in Chief Chief [C=:-)] Nick’s bill of fare. [tup] [swg]

Okay, on to the SUMMARY

QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 11:22:59
Not a problem, the Bier is good here. <I was spoiled when I was in Germany>

I'm not really a museum guy, I work for the FAA fixing the stuff the ATC break..... steady work that.

On Wednesdays and Saturdays I am the Lead machinest for the NMSL&RHS, our page http://www.nmrhs.org/

as for food, I spent 5 years in Germany with the Army, and developed quite a taste for Deutcher essen. <german food> so I want a Curry Wurst.

As to fixing up the 2926 I feel kinda like a guy that has seen a Cessna 152 and is trying to restore a 747....... None the less work is proceedin at a steady pace and we hope to be finshed in about 6 years.

So I want another cold one, and this time I buying <G> and if its not too booring I'l drop comments in about our "war baby" <built in 1944> and tooling. BTW today <its my weekend I work a rotating shift> I'm heading up to Santa Fe NM to look at a 2-10-4 in the park there I need dimensions of the Builders plate, and the boiler data plate, ours were lost during our engines park years. if some one could put up a faq about posting pictures I'll put a few up.

Gunns <short for Gunnarsson>

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 12:38:56
Hi Gunns – Kevin Didn't take you long to return - that's a good sign! [tup] [;)]

I checked out your site - the New Mexico Steam Locomotive & Railroad Historical Society. So now I know who 2926 is! [:)]

The food 'round here is simple, that is until Nick our Chief Chef [C=:-)] goes on a roll .... During the week we are a light breakfast and great sandwich kinda place. Thursday evenings is our Fish Fry and Nick's Picks - Friday is pizza night along with steak 'n fries - Saturday is also steak night, plus whatever specials Nick conjurs up. Perhaps Nick can help you out with a special Deutcher essen dish. Ask him ....... [tup]

We specialize in cold ones 'round here -great draught and several floor to ceiling fridges loaded with frosty cold bottled beer (bier). Just ask, my guess is that we'll have what pleases you! [swg] Try one of these Alexander Keith's Pale Ale's from Halifax, Nova Scotia - goes down real eeeeeeeeeeeeeeasy [;)]

Picture posting [?]These forums are loaded with advice and in fact a bit of research on the pages of our thread will give you some help. In a nutshell, here's how it works: The forums do NOT support retention of photo's unless they are stored elsewhere on the web. That may sound confusing - but it really isn't too bad to figure out.

Several free photo sites are out there - and many forums users tend to go with www.railimages.com Once an account is established, you upload your photo's to your newly created album, then copy and paste them from there to here. It's really that simple. The hardest part is getting the account up and running. But, I can help you with that if the need arises.

You can send Emails to other forum participants by clicking on their cyber names in the left hand column of the screen (like this one). Then you'll see how it works ....... So, if you need to ask me a question, suggest you do it by Email.

Hope to see you 'round here again and it's a pleasure having you at the bar! [tup] [;)]
Tom


QUOTE: coalminer3 Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 15:37:57
Back again after a few days conveying knowledge in the classroom. A round for the house and here's some money for the jukebox.

BTW, since we are showing movies now and then, let's see if we can get a copy of "Thunder Road." Not rr related, but I believe it will appeal to the folks who frequent "our place." Then we can follow it with "Emperor of the North."

Rolling back to long previous posts; MTA is now the MBTA (Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority); has been that way for awhile, in fact.

to wr Watkins: in beautiful Raleigh County. Lot more trees than your present location, for sure.

I have really been enjoying some of the old train names and discussion that have been appearing.

Here are a few more names for the collection:

Meadowlark
Steel King
Queen and Crescent
The Sportsman
The Sunbeam
The Havana Special
The Cabana
Night White Mountains
Twilight Limited
Silent Knight (doesn't get much better than that one does it?)
and one of my all time favorites (thank you C&EI)
The Egyptian Zipper
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QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 16:17:10
G'day coalminer3 - Ring the bell, Boris, time to set 'em up! [tup]

Noticed that the jar over there is getting low on quarters, so appreciate the juke box contribution! [yeah]Just got some Alabama tunes put together along with Hank Williams, Jr. - just to get things off to a good start this fine afternoon! [tup]C'mon, guys - 5 plays for a quarter .......

We'll have back-to-back-to-back movies showing on all 3 screens tomorrow evening at the Birthday Bash for earlydiesels Dan. So if you, or anyone else brings 'em in, we'll show 'em! [swg]

Some things in life just stay static as far as I'm concerned - MTA wil be it for me given the era that I called the Boston area home.

Train names [?]Oh [yeah], some real beauties over the glory years, for sure. Here's a few more:

Laurentian (D&H)
Hawkeye (IC)
Blue Bird (Wabash)
Hummingbird (L&N)
Land O' Corn (Chicago Central)
Pennsylvania Limited (PRR)
Chicago Limited (NYC)
Overland Limited (UP-SP)
Florida Special (ACL)
Lark (SP)
Oriental Limited (NP)
Dixie Limited (L&N)

and on it goes ........ [tup]

Good idea! Undoubtedly there are hundreds more .......

Hope to see you at tomorrow's Birthday Bash - we're trying to get as many on board at the same time as possible - 7 PM CDST - but if that's out of the question, check in as close to it as possible.

Have one on me! [tup] [swg]
Tom


QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 16:58:34
Good Afternoon all Sorry I'M late but digging for book information sometimes takes much longer than expected.

The time just flies when one is doing research. Well have to buy around for the house and do you think I should use "Our House" for seeking some information for book?

My very modern trains I have scant information on beginning with the LRC and even need some info on the Acela.

The older streamliners have the information on. My gaps of knowledge and information are all on the latter day streamliners. If you think it is OK Tom will put it out to the readers for feed back.

Well must run for now as I have a least three more hours of work today. Thx Al.


QUOTE: siberianmoPosted: 23 Jun 2005, 19:22:17
For passengerfan Al Hope you come up for air tomorrow evening - we're set for earlydiesels Dan and his Birthday Bash .... see you around 7 PM CDST, or whenever you can make it. [tup]
Tom


QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 19:01:09
Well a classic train name,
How about the El Pasoan. It ran daily to El Paso from Albuquerque, using Heavy Pullman cars and steam for motive power and Diesel after 1957. And has ay one mentioned The Scout, it was also high speed to LA. And lastly The Grand Canyon Limited, all the above were AT&SF "name" trains. Here is a link to the last Grand Canyon trip by the 3751 <a class sister of ours built in 1927> http://www.sbrhs.org/ondroad4a.html

And Fish is good, an order Please. <Grin> Also draw me something cold tall with Yeast in it, Hefawietzen Bitte. got back from Santa Fe, the Texas class 2-10-4 is in the park, and in pretty good shape, it has been Abated, that is had the asbestos removed, and repainted. Of course this exposes the boiler shell, and you don’t have the smooth lines of the wrapper over the Lagging, but it also gets rid of that lagging, which tends to hold water next to the boiler, promoting pitting of the boiler. The Loco 5030 didn’t have the data plates I wanted but I didn’t have much hope as the Builders plates are highly collectable and worth from 300 to 1500 $$.I will append pics as soon as I Get my account up. <It is the same with my on line air to air combat game Fourm>
Regards
Gunns


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 19:30:05
For Gunns – Kevin Looks like you enjoy this bar 'n grill - glad you made it back for Fish 'n Chips and bier. [tup]

Trains names are intriguing to many - there surely were valid reasons for 'em and as time passes, they to fade into distant memories. BUT, not 'round here, thanx to the type of input we get. That's the idea of "Our" Place and the discussion of Classic Trains [yeah]

Okay - a little translation help, s'il vous plait! Hefawietzen Bitte [?]

Enjoy! [swg]
Tom


QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 19:08:30
Good evening one and all, first up, [#welcome] Take a glass & make yourself comfortable my friend, the conversation here is wide ranging, eclectic and sometimes touches on trains in passing--despite Tom`s best efforts to keep us on track, the more off-the-wall element will have their say...................

Now, Tom,another beer whilst I gather my thoughts,-Fish supper night again, Lordy I completely forgot to order, so, courtesy of the "Mountain Dew" fishing club we have:-1: baked rainbow trout, with sage & thyme stuffing 2: Sewin steaks with dill & mustard sauce 3:-Smoked mackerel fillets with gooseberry sauce. All the above served with fries or Pommes Duchess and whatever veg looks good at the market today....

Advise all Can-Am train crews to take extra care when passing our place this weekend due to increased risk of intoxicant related injury--would hate the party to get spoiled.....! enough now, moonlight mile, enjoy, nick [C=:-)]

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 19:39:17
For Nick [C=:-)] We've got you covered tonight - Fish 'n Chips not a big deal - however, glad that your Nick's Picks made it to the menu board over there by the jars of pigs feet and hard boiled eggs. [swg]

Good advice given to our new customer, Gunns – Kevin - I'm sure in no time at all, he'll do his best to drive Tom to distraction. Hey! That's me .... [%-)]

Can-Am track gangs are to be gathered out back. Since Boris has the night off, and Cindy will be part of the kitchen crew, they're drawing lots on whether or not she's wearing any ....... [:-,]

Give a holler if you need anything for the Birthday Bash, okay [?]

By the by - your earlier reference to our Rendezvous in Toronto, keep in mind that since we have a bit less than a year to go, anything can happen. I'm not writing you out of the script just yet ...... [swg]

See ya on the 'morrow! [tup]
Tom


QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 23 Jun 2005, 22:44:17
Good evening all. Nick I think I'll take the smoked mackral sounds intriging.

Had a full day at the museum today. Hosted J.R and his son from the coffee shop forum, they popped by on their way to Mosport for a race, wonderful guy and I think they really enjoyed themselves. I think the TO meet should go famously. (Re: Rendezvous in May 2006}

I'm glad everyone liked the Algoma shots. Click on them to make them bigger the detail shows better this way. I cleaned them up best I could it was a wet sleety day. Next up is the Portage flyer, this little guy is in Huntsville Ontario. The original Portage flyer was a train conection between all the portaging points on the Muskoka lakes. They met up ( brought cottagers) to the various steamships operating on the lakes delivered coal and other supplies. All before hwy 11 and the rest of the Transcanada system was built. They run two little 0-4-0 steamers (porter types) and a small 25 tonner diesel. Their two main passenger cars are the Algonquin and the Iroquois. Both are ex Toronto Railway Company trailers, originally pulled by the TRC's 300 series open cars. Sisters to car 327 which is at our museum. Here's the shots hope you enjoy them. Click on them if you want them bigger. First shot is porter #2 the loco of the day, second is "coach" Algonquin third is coach Iroquois and the last is a shot of 327 from the museum. The coaches are actually a lot bigger than 327 being double trucked trailers. 327 is a single truck car with handbrakes only so imagine trying to stop the train of 327 and one of the trailers in city traffic. It's no wonder that the hand brake open cars were banned from the roads in the early teens (last century) Enjoy the shots. I'll pop back in tomorrow for the bday bash.

Good show, Rob [tup] [;)]
Ed. NOTE: UNABLE TO RE-POST PIX, unless they are mine, IN SUMMARIES
See ya tonight at the Party! Remember, Dan and Nick will try to be on line at 7 PM CDST. [tup]
Tom

QUOTE: Fergmiester Posted: 24 June 2005, 07:12:11
Busted! I see some of you former CS patrons cowering in the corner!! For shame! But since I'm here and the sun is over the yard arm somewhere would the Bar Keep please pour me a Keith's on tap.

I'm just over here looking for photos of the Royal Hudson 2850 used to pull the Royal Train of 1939 across Canada A friend of mine is building a reproduction of one and needs to figure out what colour blue was used.

Anyway I gotta run as we're sailing tomorrow a.m.

Regards
Fergie

Hey Fergie! Top o’ the mornin’ to ya! [tup] [tup] One frosty mug of Keiths – on the house! [swg]

Getting underway this day [?] Sure brings back LOTS of memories for me – early in my career, single – I loved it. When the marriage and kids came along – I hated this day – later in life, when my career took so many positive turns, it was back to positive. Now, in these retirement years, the memories linger …….. [yeah]

Drop an Email now and then, okay [?] Fair winds and following seas, my friend …. [tup] [tup] [tup]
Tom

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 24 June 2005, 07:17:12
Well I realize it is early when I look at the clock but find early AM best time for working on book . Will Just have a coffee and sweet roll to start the day. Was rather surprised to find Boris taking care of kitchen this AM. Must say you will never have trouble with the health department as long as Boris is cleaning. But it must get expensive replacing the sandwich prep boards weekly when I see the way he scrapes them down daily.

Gunns Welcome to "Our Place" Just a little additional information on "El Pasoan" final consist operating this schedule was Santa Fe's only two RDC's. Santa Fe didn't know where else to put them. They originally were assigned to "SAN DIEGAN" service operating twice daily round trips non-stop between Los Angeles and San Diego. They were banished from west coast after the Redondo Junction Accident one of the worst passenger accidents on the AT&SF. Cars were sent to Topeka where they were rebuilt with one becoming an RDC-2.

They next operated local services in Kansas before finally becoming "El PASOAN" between Albuquerque and El Paso round trip daily. Since they did not have meal service a car attendant sold sandwiches, Coffee, and Soft drinks at passengers seats. There was a small refrigerator installed in baggage compartment to keep the drinks cold and sandwiches fresh. It is my understanding that the sandwiches for the train service were prepared by a local restaurant about three blocks from the station and people raved about said sandwiches. I wonder if the restaurant is still there and if they still make the sandwiches everyone raved about?

Mornin’ passengerfan Al Good to see you this AM – whatillyahave [?] A light breakfast – some fresh bakery goodies from The Mentor Village Bakery along with freshly brewed Joe – your choice. [tup]
Appreciate the account of the [i]San Diegan” and the accident at Redondo Junction. Just read about that in one of my RR books …..

Hope to see you this evening at the Birthday Bash – [tup]

That’s it for now! [;)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:17 AM
Well I realize it is early when I look at the clock but find early AM best time for working on book . Will Just have a coffee and sweet roll to start the day. Was rather surprised to find Boris taking care of kitchen this AM. Must say you will never have trouble with the health department as long as Boris is cleaning. But it must get expensive replacing the sandwich prep boards weekly when I see the way he scrapes them down daily.
Gunns Welcome to "Our Place" Just a little additional information on "El Pasoan" final consist operating this schedule was Santa Fe's only two RDC's. Santa Fe didn't know where else to put them. They originally were assigned to "SAN DIEGAN" service operating twice daily round trips non-stop between Los Angeles and San Diego. They were banished from west coast after the Redondo Junction Accident one of the worst passenger accidents on the AT&SF. Cars were sent to Topeka where they were rebuilt with one becoming an RDC-2. They next operated local services in Kansas before finally becoming "El PASOAN" between Albuquerque and El Paso round trip daily.Since they did not have meal service a car attendant sold sandwiches, Coffee, and Soft drinks at passengers seats. There was a small refrigertor installed in baggage compartment to keep the drinks cold and sandwiches fresh. It is my understanding that the sandwiches for the train service were prepared by a local restaurant about three blocks from the station and people raved about said sandwiches. I wonder if the restaurant is still their and if they still make the sandwiches everyone raved about?
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Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, June 24, 2005 7:12 AM
Busted! I see some of you former CS patrons cowering in the corner!! For shame! But since I'm here and the sun is over the yard arm somewhere would the Bar Keep please pour me a Keith's on tap.

I'm just over here looking for photos of the Royal Hudson 2850 used to pull the Royal Train of 1939 across Canada A friend of mine is building a reproduction of one and needs to figure out what colour blue was used.



Anyway I gotta run as we're sailing tomorrow a.m.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:44 PM
Good evening all.Nick I think I'll take the smoked mackral sounds intriging.Had a full day at the museum today.Hosted J.R and his son from the coffee shop forum, they popped by on their way to Mosport for a race, wonderfull guy and i think they really enjoyed themselves.I think the TO meet should go famously.I'm glad everyone liked the algoma shots. Click on them to make them bigger the detail shows better this way. I cleaned them up best I could it was a wet sleaty day.Next up is the portage flyer, this little guy is in Huntsville Ontario. The original Portage flyer was a train conection between all the portaging points on tthe Muskoka lakes.They met up ( brought cottagers) to the various steamships operating on the lakes delivered coal and other supplies.All before hwy 11 and the rest of the Transcanada system was built.They run two little 0-4-0 steamers (porter types) and a small 25 tonner diesel.Their two main passenger cars are tyhe Algonquin and the Iroquois.Both are ex Toronto Railway Company trailers,originally pulled by the TRC's 300 series open cars.Sisters to car 327 which is at our museum. Here's the shots hope you enjoy them.Click on them if you want them bigger.First shot is porter #2 the loco of the day,second is "coach" Algonquin third is coach Iroquois and the last is ashot of 327 from the museum.The coaches are actually allot bigger than 327 being double trucked trailers.327 is a single truck car with handbrakes only so imagine trying to stop the train of 327 and one of the trailers in city traffic.It's no wonder that the hand brake open cars were banned from the roads in the early teens (last century) Enjoy the shots. I'll pop back in tomorrow for the [bday] bash.
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:39 PM
For Nick [C=:-)] We've got you covered tonight - Fish 'n Chips not a big deal - however, glad that your Nick's Picks made it to the menu board over there by the jars of pigs feet and hard boiled eggs. [swg]

Good advice given to our new customer, Gunns - Kevin - I'm sure in no time at all, he'll do his best to drive Tom to distraction. Hey! That's me .... [C=:-)]

Can-Am track gangs are to be gathered out back. Since Boris has the night off, and Cindy will be part of the kitchen crew, they're drawing lots on whether or not she's wearing any ....... [:-,]

Give a holler if you need anything for the Birthday Bash, okay [?]

By the by - your earlier reference to our Rendezvous in Toronto, keep in mind that since we have a bit less than a year to go, anything can happen. I'm not writing you out of the script just yet ...... [swg]

See ya on the 'morrow! [tup]
Tom
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:30 PM
For Gunns - Kevin Looks like you enjoy this bar 'n grill - glad you made it back for Fish 'n Chips and bier. [tup]

Trains names are intriguing to many - there surely were valid reasons for 'em and as time passes, they to fade into distant memories. BUT, not 'round here, thanx to the type of input we get. That's the idea of "Our" Place and the discussion of Classic Trains [yeah]

Okay - a little translation help, s'il vous plait! Hefawietzen Bitte [?]

Enjoy! [swg]
Tom
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:22 PM
For passengerfan Al Hope you come up for air tomorrow evening - we're set for earlydiesels Dan and his Birthday Bash .... see you around 7 PM CDST, or whenever you can make it. [tup]
Tom
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:08 PM
Good evening one and all,first up, [#welcome] Gunns,take a glass & make yourself comfortable my friend,the conversation here is wide ranging,eclectic and sometimes touches on trains in passing--despite Tom`s best efforts to keep us on track,the more off-the-wall element will have their say................... Now,Tom,another beer whilst I gather my thoughts,-Fish supper night again,Lordy I completely forgot to order,so, courtesy of the "Mountain Dew" fishing club we have:-1: baked rainbow trout,with sage & thyme stuffing 2: Sewin steaks with dill & mustard sauce 3:-Smoked mackerel fillets with gooseberry sauce. All the above served with fries or Pommes Duchess and whatever veg looks good at the market today....Advise all Can-Am train crews to take extra care when passing our place this weekend due to increased risk of intoxicant related injury--would hate the party to get spoiled.....! enough now,moonlight mile,enjoy,nick[C=:-)]
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:01 PM
Well a clasic train name,
How about the El Pasoan. It ran daily to El Paso from Alburqurque, using Heavy pulman cars and steam for motive power and Deisel after 1957. And has ay one mentioned The Scout, it was also high speed to LA. And lastly The Grand Caynon Limited, all the above were AT&SF "name" trains. Here is a link to the last Grand Canyon trip by the 3751 <a class sister of ours built in 1927> http://www.sbrhs.org/ondroad4a.html

And Fish is good, an order Please. <Grin> Also draw me somthing cold tall with Yeast in it, Hefawietzen Bitte. got back from Santa Fe, the Texas class 2-10-4 is in the park, and in pretty good shap, it has been Abated, that is had the asbestos removed, and repainted. Of course this exposes the boiler shell, and you dont have the smooth lines of the wrapper over the Lagging, but it also gets rid of that lagging, which tends to hold water next to the boiler, promoting pitting of the boiler. The Loco 5030 didnt have the data plates I wanted but I didnt have much hope as the Builders plates are highly collectable and worth from 300 to 1500 $$.I will append pics as soon as I Get my account up. <It is the same with my on line air to air combat game Fourm>
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Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:58 PM
Good Afternoon all Sorry I'M late but digging for book information sometimes takes much longer than expected.
The time just flies when one is doing research. Well have to buy around for the house and do you think I should use "Our House" for seeking some information for book?

My very modern trains I have scant information on beginning with the LRC and even need some info on the Acela.
The older streamliners have the information on. My gaps of knowledge and information are all on the latter day streamliners. If you think it is OK Tom will put it out to the readers for feed back.
Well must run for now as I have a least three more hours of work today.Thx Al.
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:17 PM
G'day coalminer3 - Ring the bell, Boris, time to set 'em up! [tup]

Noticed that the jar over there is getting low on quarters, so appreciate the juke box contribution! [yeah] Just got some Alabama tunes put together along with Hank Williams, Jr. - just to get things off to a good start this fine afternoon! [tup] C'mon, guys - 5 plays for a quarter .......

We'll have back-to-back-to-back movies showing on all 3 screens tomorrow evening at the Birthday Bash for earlydiesels Dan. So if you, or anyone else brings 'em in, we'll show 'em! [swg]

Some things in life just stay static as far as I'm concerned - MTA wil be it for me given the era that I called the Boston area home.

Train names [?] Oh [yeah], some real beauties over the glory years, for sure. Here's a few more:

Laurentian (D&H)
Hawkeye (IC)
Blue Bird (Wabash)
Hummingbird (L&N)
Land O' Corn (Chicago Central)
Pennsylvania Limited (PRR)
Chicago Limited (NYC)
Overland Limited (UP-SP)
Florida Special (ACL)
Lark (SP)
Oriental Limited (NP)
Dixie Limited (L&N)

and on it goes ........ [tup]

Good idea! Undoubtedly there are hundreds more .......

Hope to see you at tomorrow's Birthday bash - we're trying to get as many on board at the same time as possible - 7 PM CDST - but if that's out of the question, check in as close to it as possible.

Have one on me! [tup] [swg]
Tom
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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:37 PM
Back again after a few days conveying knowledge in the classroom. A round for the house and here's some money for the jukebox.

BTW, since we are showing movies now and then, let's see if we can get a copy of "Thunder Road." Not rr related, but I believe it will appeal to the folks who frequent "our place." Then we can follow it with "Emperor of the North."

Rolling back to long previous posts; MTA is now the MBTA (Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority); has been that way for awhile, in fact.

to wr watkins: in beautiful Raleigh County. Lot more trees than your present location, for sure.

I have really been enjoying some of the old train names and discussion that have been appearing.

Here are a few more names for the collection:

Meadowlark
Steel King
Queen and Crescent
The Sportsman
The Sunbeam
The Havana Special
The Cabana
Night White Mountains
Twilight Limited
Silent Knight (doesn't get much better than that one does it?)
and one of my all time favorites (thank you C&EI)
The Egyptian Zipper

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:38 PM
Hi Gunns - Kevin Didn't take you long to return - that's a good sign! [tup] [;)]

I checked out your site - the New Mexico Steam Locomotive & Railroad Historical Society. So now I know who 2926 is! [:)]

The food 'round here is simple, that is until Nick our Chief Chef [C=:-)] goes on a roll .... During the week we are a light breakfast and great sandwich kinda place. Thursday evenings is our Fish Fry and Nick's Picks - Friday is pizza night along with steak 'n fries - Saturday is also steak night, plus whatever specials Nick conjurs up. Perhaps Nick can help you out with a special Deutcher essen dish. Ask him ....... [tup]

We specialize in cold ones 'round here -great draught and several floor to ceiling fridges loaded with frosty cold bottled beer (bier). Just ask, my guess is that we'll have what pleases you! [swg] Try one of these Alexander Keith's Pale Ale's from Halifax, Nova Scotia - goes down real eeeeeeeeeeeeeeasy [;)]

Picture posting [?] These forums are loaded with advice and in fact a bit of research on the pages of our thread will give you some help. In a nutshell, here's how it works: The forums do NOT support retention of photo's unless they are stored elsewhere on the web. That may sound confusing - but it really isn't too bad to figure out.

Several free photo sites are out there - and many forums users tend to go with www.railimages.com Once an account is established, you upload your photo's to your newly created album, then copy and paste them from there to here. It's really that simple. The hardest part is getting the account up and running. But, I can help you with that if the need arises.

You can send Emails to other forum participants by clicking on their cyber names in the left hand column of the screen (like this one). Then you'll see how it works ....... So, if you need to ask me a question, suggest you do it by Email.

Hope to see you 'round here again and it's a pleasure having you at the bar! [tup] [;)]
Tom
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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:22 AM
Not a problem, the Bier is good here. <I was spoiled when I was in Germany>

I'm not really a museum guy, I work for the FAA fixing the stuff the ATC break..... steady work that.
On Wendsdays and Saturdays I am the Lead machienst for the NMSL&RHS, our page http://www.nmrhs.org/

as for food, I spent 5 years in Germany with the Army, and devloped quite a taste for Deutcher essen. <german food> so I want a Curry Wurst.
As to fixing up the 2926 I feel kinda like a guy that has seen a Cessna 152 and is trying to restore a 747....... None the less work is proceadin at a steady pace and we hope to be finshed in about 6 years.

So I want another cold one, and this time I buying <G> and if its not too booring I'l drop comments in about our "war baby" <built in 1944> and tooling. BTW today <its my weekend I work a rotating shift> I'm heading up to Santa Fe NM to look at a 2-10-4 in the park there I need dimentions of the Builders plate, and the boiler data plate, ours were lost during our engines park years. if some one could put up a faq about posting pictures I'll put a few up.

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:36 AM
THURSDAY SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

Morning all! Belly up to the bar and partake in some great offerings from The Mentor Village Bakery. Hot coffee (leaded and unleaded) along with our light breakfast fare and your day will be jump started right here! [tup] [swg]

With Ted incommunicado for an indefinite period, we’ll all surely miss his wit and life’s experiences. Hope there’s one or two of you out there willing to step up and provide us with a bit more in the conversation department – at least one a day until he returns. Okay [?]

Been awhile since I posted this, so here it is again:

THE GALS of "Our" Place

Every now and then I need a REMINDER - who's who when it comes to our gals:

Ruth, Ann, Lucy, Jemima - hired by Tom as the "Redhead - Blonde - Brunette and Raven haired beauty." Nick provided the names - so Ruth is the redhead, and so on .........

They work weekend nights - Friday's and Saturdays, with occasional special events - lingerie shows, etc. [;)] [yeah]

Then there’s Cindy. She’s on loan from the all female college up the road – faculty, not student. [:-,] She fills in for me behind the bar and will be helping out in the kitchen for special events – like Birthday Parties. Once you’ve met Cindy, you won’t forget her. [yeah]

TONIGHT is FISH ‘n CHIPS along with NICKS’s PICKS

Okay, on to the SUMMARY

QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 22 Jun 2005, 15:29:35
Well yes and no I will be and not be around for my birthday. On July 15 my wife and I are leaving for London on the 5 PM BA flight. Will leave for the airport about noon so we will and will not be in town on the 15th. I get to work in London while my wife plays and abuses the plastic. All is not bad as we will be staying at the Hilton Paddington Hotel that is over Paddington Station. I will actually be working in Reading which is about a 20 minute ride west from Paddington. Get to ride a fast train twice per day and it is free. Got a pass from First Great Western railroad to ride their trains. Not all bad.
***


QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 22 Jun 2005, 16:42:35
*** As a member of "Our" Place's Birthday Watch List you can decide WHEN the festivities will occur.

Nick is our Party Coordinator and is rariin' to go ........ just let us know WHEN!

Regarding your upcoming trip, check out my photo site for current pix of the trains running on the Montreal-Halifax run: http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber

So, whatillyahave [?] [tup] [swg]
Tom


QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 22 Jun 2005, 20:36:36
Well good evening one and all,happy solstice !-go and check out the moon when it rises with you tonight, not only full but due to once-a-century alignment stuff looks much bigger than usual-"Man in the Moon" face unusually clear--portentious stuff........

O.K, Tom ,how are you Sir ?-a drink for us both whilst we wait for the rush-I`ll have a cold one & I trust you`ll shake hands with Mr Alexander ?

Now, that film,-The more I think about it, the more I become convinced that Gene Hackman only played Doyle in the first film, the guy from that ghastly sitcom "Married with children" took over--Ed something ? But at the same time I can remember the plot line with them flying out of Marseilles to Montreal or somewhere & then taking to the train with Gene right behind them and then about a half hour of pure railway travelogue interspersed with occasional plot-related scenes..ring any bells ?--I have it in mind that it was made in 1979/80...enough already,the party approaches,

I have some thoughts for a menu : 1: as Dan has expressed a preference for corned beef and cabbage (obviously heating is expensive where he lives...) how about, Fresh Oven-Baked corned beef pasties with double-butter pastry, steamed savoy cabbage & 1st crop baby carrots with onion gravy 2: thanks to the generosity of the `Mountain Dew` fishing club-3 whole sea bass, which I shall soak & marinade as the mood takes me, served with potato & parsnip gratinee and mange tout......3: [C=:-)] special chow mein with prawn crackers , glazed ribs, Singapore rice....wouldnt want to stretch Cindy on her first night in the engine room of the house-by the way, love her outfit, but if she`s going to be waiting at table as well we are going to need a lot of extra ice and probably some extra 3rd-party insurance............

Now here`s a thought for the company, whilst I would love to join you all on the Toronto Rendezvous the chances of this happening are, at best,slim. How about, at the same time,I take a weekend tour of some of the decent railfan stuff up in North Wales and write it up and post pix -page 6 -from our British correspondant, just like the old Mecanno magazine,-In fact, at risk of sounding like Julie Andrews, "lets all get up & do it-anyone who cant make the weekend, go visit a railway near you, take notes & ( if possible ) pix--fire `em all in & we`ll have a show`n`tell weekend.....bedtime now, slow, careful walk home..........night all...........<slam>...............................................................................................

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 22 Jun 2005, 21:16:58
Evenin' Nick Ahhhhh, Mr. Alexander's best - one for you [?]

Yes, the more I think about that flick, the more I'm about to fire up the VCR and run through both French Connection movies in order to get to that specific scene.

The menu sounds terrific and undoubtedly Dan will enjoy it - along with our customers. Too bad Boris will be howling at that Solstice Moon - [:-,]

Another great idea from Nick [yeah]On the weekend of the [navy]First Annual "Our Place Classic Trains Rendezvous we will host a picture posting gala. Just check out what Nick came up with - we have until next May to get this organized ....... [tup] [tup] [tup]
Okay - Friday evening .... Birthday Bash for earlydiesels Dan. Oh [yeah] Cindy said something about a birthday suit [wow]Guess we'll have to wait 'n see what she meant .... [yeah]
Tom


QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 22 Jun 2005, 22:28:50
I need A cold one......
I spent all day workin on 2926, in Alburque NM, it was over 100 Deg in the machine shop, but we have the wiring done. Work on the Buckeye tender trucks is nearly done <I need to cut and heat treat about 32 bearings and pins for the 8 wheel trucks>. So Pass me a cold one, and Ill sit in the corner quietly.
Gunns

[#welcome] Gunns – Kevin First drink ‘round here is always on the house – enjoy! [tup]

As you can tell, I checked your profile and it looks like you’ll fit in real well with the ten of us regulars.

We’re a comparatively new thread on the forums and the idea of this cyber bar ‘n grill is to talk about Classic Trains and have a bit of fun doing it. We seem to be thriving quite well with both aspects. Check out the pages and you’ll see there’s lots of info in them from the guys.

Oh, I’m the Proprietor and Nick is Chief Chef [C=:-)]. Drifting in and out of our setting is Boris – best left for you to figure out. We have our four gals who work Thursdays and the weekends – and Cindy who fills in for me when needed and also helps out in the kitchen.

Recommend you spend a bit of time with the SUMMARIES, good way to get up to speed …….

So, what's 2926 [?]

Hope to see you ‘round here again! [tup]
Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 22 Jun 2005, 23:41:39
Good evening everyone. guns I'm glad to make your acquaintance, I'll take a wild guess and say that you are a museum guy of some sort [tup] good stuff we need more of us here.

Nick Any chance for some calamarie or shrimp cocktail Friday as well? Here’s round one of the pictures I promised I'll post the second set tomorrow. This is the Algoma Central railways train #1 the Aagawa Canyon tour train. Unfortunatly in their [censored] wisdom CN has removed the A-B-A set of F7's a replaced them with something more horrible. The day we were on it was a twenty-two car train we were in #16 just behind the dinning car [dinner] was pretty good on the train. Pancake a sausage breakfast and a half decent lunch you could buy on the train or do a boxed lunch. We opted for the boxed because there was 1000 paid riders on the train it was full so it was too long a wait. This was with two dining cars one for front half of train one for the back. First shot(s) is the consist at the Sault Ste Marie Station, the next is the front half of the train crossing the Montreal river tressel. (Shot from the dome car) the next twop shots are shots in the canyon and of the Montreal river hope you enjoy. As tour trains go it's not too bad as it's an 8 hour excursion so you feel as though you've actually gone somewhere and the ACR crews are wonderful and extremely friendly. Good night all, tomorrow I'm museum bound, I have a coffeeshop person comming up on their way to a race at Mosport.

Ed. NOTE: UNABLE TO RE-POST PIX, unless they are mine, IN SUMMARIES

Talk to you all later. Rob

Good stuff, Rob always can count on you to keep things hummin’ ‘round here. Enjoyed the pix .........[tup] [tup] By the way, Email received and replied to ...... thanx! [tup] [;)]

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