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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, October 5, 2019 7:00 PM

What a beautiful old station that Goderich depot is!  They sure don't build 'em like that anymore!  

Reminds me a bit of the Warwick NY station on the old Lehigh and Hudson River RR.  The L&HR's gone but the station's still there.  The tracks are owned by the Susquehanna now.  And here it is, it still looks that that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Warwick_NY.png  

Goderich and Warwick, those stations were built for the ages.  No "planned obsolescence" here, the builders thought and built like Romans!

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, October 5, 2019 10:59 PM

Miningman
Midland Mike-- I don't know where ferry and car float equipment went. Like everything else of the era it just ceased to be.

What I meant was, what ports did the ferry/carfloats regularly sail to when they were operating out of Goderich.

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, October 5, 2019 11:11 PM

Midland Mike: Good info here, I'll have to research historical items 

https://goderichport.ca/Port_Corporation/uploads/files/PortStudy-Goderich-FINAL.pdf

 The Port of Goderich is the only deepwater port on the east shore of Lake Huron. Servicing regional mining, manufacturing and agricultural industries, the Port is an important hub of commercial shipping in southwestern Ontario. Approximately 250 ships dock within the Port of Goderich annually, loading and delivering commodities such as salt, grain and calcium chloride. In addition to these activities, the Port is also used by fishing boats, and other users. The Port of Goderich is owned by the Town of Goderich and administration of the Port is overseen by the Goderich Port Management Corporation.

To learn more about the Port and the Goderich Port Management Corporation, please use the navigation menu on the left. 

This below didn't work .. sorry 

 

 
 

Welcome to Goderich Port Management Corporation

 

Welcome to the website for the Port of Goderich and the Goderich Port Management Corporation (GPMC).

The Port of Goderich is the only deepwater port on the east shore of Lake Huron. Servicing regional mining, manufacturing and agricultural industries, the Port is an important hub of commercial shipping in southwestern Ontario. Approximately 250 ships dock within the Port of Goderich annually, loading and delivering commodities such as salt, grain and calcium chloride. In addition to these activities, the Port is also used by fishing boats, and other users. The Port of Goderich is owned by the Town of Goderich and administration of the Port is overseen by the Goderich Port Management Corporation.

To learn more about the Port and the Goderich Port Management Corporation, please use the navigation menu on the left. 
 


For more information on shipping and the St. Lawrence Seaway,
please see the Highway H20 website:
 
   

 

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, October 6, 2019 1:02 AM

Passenger Service to Goderich on the CPR

The next Time Table in October turned the two roundtrips into Mixed trains! A Daily except Sunday Mixed with an RS-18 diesel operated from Guelph to Goderich, with an immediate return. Previously two Mixed trains met halfway between Guelph and Goderich. Prior to April 24,1955 a roundtrip passenger train operated between Hamilton and Goderich, Daily except Sunday. 



9004 sits at Guelph, Sept. 10,1956, hiding most of the well kept station next to the Speed River,
between one of its many shuttle runs to Guelph Junction to connect with CPR Detroit or Toronto trains.
Dave Shaw/collection of Carleton Smith 


9004 "Sparky" shown here Sat. April 26,1958 on the last run of train #346 to Guelph Jct. R.J.Sandusky/JBC Visuals
 


Postcard view of passenger train on spectacular viaduct, circa 1912. Viaduct has been saved. 
Dick George


Old post card cancelled May 1923 Collection of Gordon Strathdee

Gas-Electric 9007 with mail and express car on bridge just north of Wallenstein, Ont.
In a photo by Paul Ziegler published October 1944. 
Note: Railway records show 9007 assigned to this Hamilton-Goderich passenger run 
in 1933 and in 1938. It is likely to have been assigned all the years in between and longer. 

9007 Looks like the trainman is about to toss off some newspapers. 
Elmira, Ont. April 26, 1941 Bud Laws Collection 

 

 

2925 train 637 Hamilton-Goderich approaching Waterdown just south of Hwy.5 
19 June 1954. Photo © Bob Sandusky


No. 2928 was a John Street engine, but when assigned to the Goderich run, she was maintained at the TH&B Hamilton roundhouse, returning to Toronto once a month for boiler washouts. Toronto was her home from the time she was built in March 1938, through to the mid-1950's. When diesels infiltrated heavily into John Street, No. 2928 was transferred to the New Brunswick District, and during 1956 to 1957, she was on the St. Andrews mixed train. Tied Up Serviceable at McAdam, New Brunswick, on March 27, 1958, she was stored at St. Luc, Montreal by October of that year. She arrived at Angus Shops on August 31,1959, where she was stored until 1961, when she became one of 12 steam locomotives presented to the Canadian Railroad Historical Association by Canadian Pacific. W.H.N.Rossiter

 

Train No. 637 is seen arriving at Guelph Junction from Hamilton on May 24,1954, at 9:00 a.m. The train will pull ahead to the eastbound main line of the London Division, cross to the westbound main, back down west of the station, turn on the wye facing north and stand behind the station, awaiting the arrival of Train No. 21, the Chicago Express. It will depart shortly after, heading for Guelph and Goderich, returning later in the day as Train No. 640.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, October 6, 2019 12:01 PM

A semi-streamliner on the point of a local, and sometimes a mixed.

What a classic, classy, CPR thing to do!  

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Posted by NDG on Monday, October 14, 2019 7:18 AM
FYI.
 
Three B-B'd 1700s in Drag Service.
 
 
Note different sizes CN Herald.
 
Note Track Speeder Take Off foreground.
 
Thank You.
 
Thank You  Mr. Overmod re TMs.

 

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, November 2, 2019 12:02 AM

Dominion Atlantic Rwy.

How about a mixed, behind steam, and passengers ride the caboose, all into 1959! 

G2s 2551 ex CP 2551 ex M&A 2551 

The following three photographs were taken one morning early in August, 1958, at Rockingham, NS, the location of CN's general freight yard on the shores of Bedford Basin, at the north end of the city of Halifax. My notes from the time say that the train was DAR M-26. It is shown arriving and heading for the CN interchange, and then (the final image) sitting at the platform of Rockingham station with only the baggage/express car and caboose left, as it readies to depart for Halifax Station, at Ocean Terminals. Although indicated as a mixed train the rare passenger would have ridden in the caboose. Ian Mac Donald

Note the old style slanted illuminated numberboards. Very rare at this late date. Still with open cab.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, November 2, 2019 10:15 AM

NDG
Three B-B'd 1700s in Drag Service.

  http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=28210

I just noticed that this picture solves the issue raised somewhere in a prior post.  You can clearly see the pedestal ties installed on the center jaw openings.  That of course was common-sense, but it's nice to see it proven.

To me this was a very sensible low-cost conversion, easily laid out and fabricated in a steam-capable shop.  It might also be noted that nothing would have to be 'undone' to permit re-conversion to a light service truck in future if the removed parts were retained.

I do have to wonder, just a bit, what would have been done if comparably cost-effective antislip means for individual traction motors had been available to them at the time.

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