Name a railroad that also called their 4-8-4s Northern in addition to Northern Pacific.
Great Northern and the Spooane Portland and Seattle?
Well, CB&Q, RI, D&H, and I believe C&NW... did Cotton Belt have a cute name for theirs? I think SLSF used the number series for theirs, as ATSF did.
Frisco and Santa Fe called their 4-8-4s Northerns and so did Cotton Belt.
SPer Name a railroad that also called their 4-8-4s Northern in addition to Northern Pacific.
Only a few railroads called their 4-8-4s by another name (Niagaras, Dixies), all the rest called them Northerns...although most railroaders referred to their engines by the number series, not a nickname.
wjstix SPer Name a railroad that also called their 4-8-4s Northern in addition to Northern Pacific. Only a few railroads called their 4-8-4s by another name (Niagaras, Dixies), all the rest called them Northerns...although most railroaders referred to their engines by the number series, not a nickname.
WM's 4-8-4's were referred to a Potomacs.
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BaltACD wjstix SPer Name a railroad that also called their 4-8-4s Northern in addition to Northern Pacific. Only a few railroads called their 4-8-4s by another name (Niagaras, Dixies), all the rest called them Northerns...although most railroaders referred to their engines by the number series, not a nickname. WM's 4-8-4's were referred to a Potomacs.
I think RF&P also called theirs Patomacs. If not, then some other name than Northerns.
C&O: Greenbriars. And not Birkshires, but Kiwanas.
Some referred to them by class - Soo Line (WC) O-20. By the same token 4-8-2s were N-20s. Not as picky with smaller engines - 2-8-2s were "Mikes" and 4-6-2's were Pacifics. Maybe due to having multiple classes (and both MStPSSM and WC classes) for the smaller engines.
daveklepperI think RF&P also called theirs Patomacs.
Generals.
Governors.
Statesmen.
Depending on series. You'd be hard pressed to find more beautiful 4-8-4s.
Mr. Klepper, Kiwanis is a fraternal organization.
The word you want is Kanawha.
Canadian National initially called them Confederations, but switched to Northerns pretty early on.
Canadian Pacific only had two, both of which are preserved, and didn't have any special name for them as far as I know.
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Incidentally, while the Canadian locomotives were still Confederations, Cantlie's excellent 4-8-4s for China were called that... with the Chinese class being KF -- in Roman letters! (I'll let M636C tell the rest of the story (as I got most of my current understanding of it from him in the first place...)
I've read reference that RI employees referred to their northerns by their road numbers, "50 hundreds" for the 5000 to 5064 R67b class and "51 hundreds" for the 5100 to 5119 R67 class.
Jeff
Overmod, thanhks. And I agree they looked just terrific. The connecting ACL's were almost as fine. And the FEC. But the SAL and Southern had none.
But the N&W J is my all-time favorite.
"Mr. Klepper, Kiwanis is a fraternal organization.
The word you want is Kanawha."
Making pedantic comments like this puts people off contributing to the forum.
C&NW's H-class 4-8-4's were known as Zeppelins of the Rails.
CSSHEGEWISCHC&NW's H-class 4-8-4's were known as Zeppelins of the Rails.
A point to remember about the 'H of an engine' was that class members received modernizing rebuilding in the early '40s and again in 1948, and it might be argued that the latter produced some of the finest of all locomotives. They got neither the fame nor the life they deserved...
Just a follow-up to my earlier post - keep in mind we're talking about names used like in advertisements and such by the railroad. I believe virtually all working railroaders referred to the engines by their class (like a letter) or their number series ("4200's"), they may not have even known about all the various nicknames for the different types of engines.
TheFlyingScotsman "Mr. Klepper, Kiwanis is a fraternal organization. The word you want is Kanawha." Making pedantic comments like this puts people off contributing to the forum.
I Respectfully Disagree, it was not the intent to criticize, but rather educate, and Dave being a long time member here, I believe would understand, and even appreciate that
Doug
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OvermodMr. Klepper, Kiwanis is a fraternal organization. The word you want is Kanawha.
The northerner's ear, though trained on music, missed the intricacies of the West Virginia dialect.
ALways happy to accept helpful critisism. And cwithy a c91-[year-olds memory, it can be helpful.
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