I found some pic of SL 811:
This one is SL 7XX
Jones 3D Modeling Club https://www.youtube.com/Jones3DModelingClub
A rather new upload of a documentary about The Asia Express run by the Japanese. Besides some footages of the trains, you will find some prewar footages of the cities in the Empire of Manchuria, a puppet state of the Empire of Japan in Northeast China and Inner Mongolia from 1932 until 1945. There are also footages of prewar China (ROC, Republic of China) cities before the country fell into the hand of the DIRTY, DIRTY, DIRTY Chineses Communist Party, showing many historic buildings and cultural activity that probably completely destroyed or uprooted during the cultural revolution that was orchestrated by Chairman Mao - a pathetic tyrant who killed more innocent people than Hitler.
A drawing of the 2nd Class Coach used on the Asia Express (1934)
A newly made YZ21 coach of the Communist China Railway in 1958, looks familiar, isn't it?
Jones1945A rather new upload of a documentary about The Asia Express run by the Japanese. Besides some footages of the trains, you will find some prewar footages of the cities in the Empire of Manchuria, a puppet state of the Empire of Japan in Northeast China and Inner Mongolia from 1932 until 1945. There are also footages of prewar China (ROC, Republic of China) cities before the country fell into the hand of the DIRTY, DIRTY, DIRTY Chineses Communist Party, showing many historic buildings and cultural activity that probably completely destroyed or uprooted during the cultural revolution that was orchestrated by Chairman Mao - a pathetic tyrant who killed more innocent people than Hitler. A drawing of the 2nd Class Coach used on the Asia Express (1934) A newly made YZ21 coach of the Communist China Railway in 1958, looks familiar, isn't it?
Interesting but my Japanese is rusty to non-existant.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Jones1945 A rather new upload of a documentary about The Asia Express run by the Japanese. Besides some footages of the trains, you will find some prewar footages of the cities in the Empire of Manchuria, a puppet state of the Empire of Japan in Northeast China and Inner Mongolia from 1932 until 1945. There are also footages of prewar China (ROC, Republic of China) cities before the country fell into the hand of the DIRTY, DIRTY, DIRTY Chineses Communist Party, showing many historic buildings and cultural activity that probably completely destroyed or uprooted during the cultural revolution that was orchestrated by Chairman Mao - a pathetic tyrant who killed more innocent people than Hitler. A drawing of the 2nd Class Coach used on the Asia Express (1934) A newly made YZ21 coach of the Communist China Railway in 1958, looks familiar, isn't it?
I found the video most interesting.
I just muted the Japanese commentary.
Most of the stations had an English translation of the name visible in the video, and having visited the area I was familiar with the places concerned. One giveaway was that the name "Harbin" was shown as katakana (Japanese phonetic symbols) since it was a Russian name.
The same train clips are shown again and again but they are still interesting.
The most interesting sequence was a "Pashina" streamlined Pacific on a train with two turn of the century wooden Pullmans including the observation car.
The cities I saw, Changchun and Harbin, were little changed from the prewar scenes in the video. I think it is fair to say that Chairman Mao had almost no effect on the buildings in Changchun, since my visit postdated his death. We actually saw his body in the Mausoleum in Beijing. I stayed in the former "Yamato" hotel in Changchun, and the milk jug on the breakfast table still had the South Manchurian Railway logo on it.
I actually saw three of the streamlined Pashinas, all in Changchun, two still streamlined but one completely destreamlined, in two visits in 1980 and 1985.
Some of the clips show Changchun while Russian broad gauge trains still operated between there and Harbin. The Soviet "SSSR" logo is seen in photos of the transhipment process in Changchun. This dates that scene to before 1936 when the gauge conversion took place, but after introduction of the "Asia".
Generally an interesting set of videos.
Peter
Peter Clark is one of the authorities in the English language on this service, and probably of the history of the South Manchuria Railway in development of that area up to the time of the high-speed train development. If I remember correctly, a large part of the establishment of 'Manchukuo' as a state was done more at the behest of the railroad company and its considerable investment in that area than for explicit political or co-prosperity sphere kinds of reasons, and that it represented a more-or-less progressive step away from the sort of warlord kleptocracy more typical of interwar Chinese 'government' at that time... take this with a grain of salt if it derives from Japanese sources, some of which can be a bit excusing when it comes to prewar issues in China.
M636C I found the video most interesting. I just muted the Japanese commentary. Most of the stations had an English translation of the name visible in the video, and having visited the area I was familiar with the places concerned. One giveaway was that the name "Harbin" was shown as katakana (Japanese phonetic symbols) since it was a Russian name. The same train clips are shown again and again but they are still interesting. The most interesting sequence was a "Pashina" streamlined Pacific on a train with two turn of the century wooden Pullmans including the observation car. The cities I saw, Changchun and Harbin, were little changed from the prewar scenes in the video. I think it is fair to say that Chairman Mao had almost no effect on the buildings in Changchun, since my visit postdated his death. We actually saw his body in the Mausoleum in Beijing. I stayed in the former "Yamato" hotel in Changchun, and the milk jug on the breakfast table still had the South Manchurian Railway logo on it. I actually saw three of the streamlined Pashinas, all in Changchun, two still streamlined but one completely destreamlined, in two visits in 1980 and 1985. Some of the clips show Changchun while Russian broad gauge trains still operated between there and Harbin. The Soviet "SSSR" logo is seen in photos of the transhipment process in Changchun. This dates that scene to before 1936 when the gauge conversion took place, but after introduction of the "Asia". Generally an interesting set of videos. Peter
Glad to know you enjoy the video, Peter. I guess not many people on CT forum really interested in these streamlined Pacific like you and me, even though they had a deep connection with the American railroad industry. We had a thorough discussion with other forumers earlier that I really enjoyed.
From my point of view, these early streamliners that outshined every single local train in Japan in terms of speed and luxury, was a symbol of ambition and determination of the Empire of Japan, they told the general public in the Empire of Manchuria how good the Japanese were capable of, and the legitimacy of the Empire.
I believe people who lived in Northeast China who survived WWII but suffered, again and again, from all those devastating political movements launched by the CCP from the 1950s to the late 1970s, (+1989)... including Aisin-Gioro Puyi himself, missed the day when the Manchuria was actually running by the Japanese. Puyi was "lucky" enough that he didn't have to witness how the Northeast China was turned upside down during the Cultural Revolution, directly or indirectly by Chairman Mao, his evil wife, and his nephew, Mao Yuanxin.
Yes, the Cultural Revolution was not an "urban renewal" project of CCP, like what Nicolae Ceaușescu did to the Bucharest, therefore, many but not all prewar historical buildings survived and still erected across Mainland China as long as it was not built with wood, like the Peace Hotel in Shanghai (used to be my favorite), though the number of victims, including many scholars who lost their lives during the Culture Revolution, as Deng Xiaoping said, "it was an astronomical figure."
When I watched the video showing the fancy dining room on the Asia Express, I remembered a scene on a local train from Shenzhen to Guangzhou in the early 1990s during a business trip, it was a (at least) 18-car consist powered by a single 1800hp(?) DF-3 diesel engine. The "soft seat coach" ticket was sold out, so we were traveling on a "hard seat coach", it was like a buffet seat in the dining car with four seats facing each other, when we finished our lunch boxes, we searched for a rubbish bin but there was none, after about 20 mins, we found a train attendant and asked her how to handle the lunch boxes, she stared to us in the face, open the heavy window skillfully, throw all the lunch boxes outside without saying a word. Think about the butterfly effect and those lunch boxes......
Jones1945 M636C I found the video most interesting. I just muted the Japanese commentary. Most of the stations had an English translation of the name visible in the video, and having visited the area I was familiar with the places concerned. One giveaway was that the name "Harbin" was shown as katakana (Japanese phonetic symbols) since it was a Russian name. The same train clips are shown again and again but they are still interesting. The most interesting sequence was a "Pashina" streamlined Pacific on a train with two turn of the century wooden Pullmans including the observation car. The cities I saw, Changchun and Harbin, were little changed from the prewar scenes in the video. I think it is fair to say that Chairman Mao had almost no effect on the buildings in Changchun, since my visit postdated his death. We actually saw his body in the Mausoleum in Beijing. I stayed in the former "Yamato" hotel in Changchun, and the milk jug on the breakfast table still had the South Manchurian Railway logo on it. I actually saw three of the streamlined Pashinas, all in Changchun, two still streamlined but one completely destreamlined, in two visits in 1980 and 1985. Some of the clips show Changchun while Russian broad gauge trains still operated between there and Harbin. The Soviet "SSSR" logo is seen in photos of the transhipment process in Changchun. This dates that scene to before 1936 when the gauge conversion took place, but after introduction of the "Asia". Generally an interesting set of videos. Peter Glad to know you enjoy the video, Peter. I guess not many people on CT forum really interested in these streamlined Pacific like you and me, even though they had a deep connection with the American railroad industry. We had a thorough discussion with other forumers earlier that I really enjoyed. From my point of view, these early streamliners that outshined every single local train in Japan in terms of speed and luxury, was a symbol of ambition and determination of the Empire of Japan, they told the general public in the Empire of Manchuria how good the Japanese were capable of, and the legitimacy of the Empire. I believe people who lived in Northeast China who survived WWII but suffered, again and again, from all those devastating political movements launched by the CCP from the 1950s to the late 1970s, (+1989)... including Aisin-Gioro Puyi himself, missed the day when the Manchuria was actually running by the Japanese. Puyi was "lucky" enough that he didn't have to witness how the Northeast China was turned upside down during the Cultural Revolution, directly or indirectly by Chairman Mao, his evil wife, and his nephew, Mao Yuanxin. Yes, the Cultural Revolution was not an "urban renewal" project of CCP, like what Nicolae Ceaușescu did to the Bucharest, therefore, many but not all prewar historical buildings survived and still erected across Mainland China as long as it was not built with wood, like the Peace Hotel in Shanghai (used to be my favorite), though the number of victims, including many scholars who lost their lives during the Culture Revolution, as Deng Xiaoping said, "it was an astronomical figure." When I watched the video showing the fancy dining room on the Asia Express, I remembered a scene on a local train from Shenzhen to Guangzhou in the early 1990s during a business trip, it was a (at least) 18-car consist powered by a single 1800hp(?) DF-3 diesel engine. The "soft seat coach" ticket was sold out, so we were traveling on a "hard seat coach", it was like a buffet seat in the dining car with four seats facing each other, when we finished our lunch boxes, we searched for a rubbish bin but there was none, after about 20 mins, we found a train attendant and asked her how to handle the lunch boxes, she stared to us in the face, open the heavy window skillfully, throw all the lunch boxes outside without saying a word. Think about the butterfly effect and those lunch boxes......
I have watched a number of videos illuminating China. The one thing they all seem to show is that China loves to build something new - but then hates to do what is required to maintain the things that have been build.
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