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The price for taking out the trash....

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The price for taking out the trash....
Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, August 23, 2019 8:06 AM

Good riddance, everytime I see a Talgo I will always think of a weak accordian made of soda cans, ready for the accordian joint to come undone and spew people all over the countryside...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/08/22-feds-give-washington-state-nearly-$40-million-to-replace-talgo-equipment

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, August 23, 2019 11:36 AM

Sigh

Despite your irrational hatred for Talgo that you've never explained (but is probably related to something in Wisconsin), the Talgo VIs have performed reliably and safely for two decades, with the exception of an accident where they were thrown sideways into a grove of trees at 80 MPH.

I have my doubts that conventional cars would've behaved any better. Sure, they might not've had pedestal bogies to go flying, but we saw an Amfleet snap in half at Cayce, SC, last year with similar energy involved.

The Talgo 8s are to continue in service, and there isn't yet a plan to replace the two Amtrak Talgo VI sets, other than perhaps with the Wisconsin sets.

We'll be enjoying our Talgos for decades to come.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, August 23, 2019 2:11 PM

+1

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Posted by AMTRAKKER on Saturday, August 24, 2019 4:14 AM

I have ridden the Talgo series VI's a few times over the years. I have never felt unsafe while riding them. 

 

I travelled by the crash scene several times this summer while visiting family in Washington State. I can tell you that I would be no more confident in an Amfleet or Superliner coming sideways off that curve at 80 mph, down the embankment and onto the expressway. 

I'm not an engineer but in my humble opinion, for the forces exerted on them, the Talgo cars performed admirably. I would not hesitate to ride on one tomorrow. 

 

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Posted by ROBIN LUETHE on Monday, August 26, 2019 7:58 PM

A question that has not been answered thus far (and maybe not asked): A crowded passenger train leaves the tracks at 80mph on a sharp curve, falling off a bridge and landing on a freeway below. What would be expected death toll be?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:59 AM

ROBIN LUETHE

A question that has not been answered thus far (and maybe not asked): A crowded passenger train leaves the tracks at 80mph on a sharp curve, falling off a bridge and landing on a freeway below. What would be expected death toll be?

 
Aside from the repulsive nature of this question, the situation as presented is too vague to make a disgusting guess.Dead
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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:58 AM

ROBIN LUETHE
A question that has not been answered thus far (and maybe not asked): A crowded passenger train leaves the tracks at 80mph on a sharp curve, falling off a bridge and landing on a freeway below. What would be expected death toll be?

The death toll should be ZERO!  Now serious injuries are another matter entirely.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:13 AM

Shoulda,  woulda. A silly discussion. 

When the NE Regional train derailed near Philly at ~80mph using conventional equipment (and not plunging down to a road below),  many were also killed.  The goal should be to avoid these situations,  which for various reasons,  seem to happen too often here compared with other systems,  given a much smaller number of passengers trains running. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, August 29, 2019 4:09 PM

Well, this is what happens when a train with a bruiser of an engine like a Pennsy K4 pulling a train of "built like tanks" heavyweight coaches hits a 25mph "shoo-fly" at a speed close to 50.

Human error is human error.  Sometimes it doesn't matter how good the equipment is.  Eighty-five dead in this case and hundreds injured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_phA9ME6s  

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