Siemens Charger SC-44 deiveries and revenue service

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Siemens Charger SC-44 deiveries and revenue service
Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:38 AM

Unconfirmed reports that a Charger will be on Hiawatha revenue service today.  No details . If so may be the start of some relief to the P-42 shortage of serviceable locos ?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:11 AM

It sounds plausible.  I also saw four new Chargers (IDOT 4616-4619) at 18th Street this morning.

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Posted by Buslist on Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:48 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

It sounds plausible.  I also saw four new Chargers (IDOT 4616-4619) at 18th Street this morning.

 

The question is "have the contract issues been settled?"

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:36 PM

Partial retraction  4613 reported was on south end of morning HIA but a P-42 also on the train. Which on rear unknown.  Cabbage unit on north end.  Which unit 4613 or P-42 was the power unit unknown.  Need first hand observations.

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Posted by Buslist on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 1:53 PM

There was a report in another forum the other day of 2 arriving in ABQ to head north to TTC for further testing. Wonder what's up?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:27 PM

Siemens announces a remote monitoring and some maintenance facility in Delaware.  It is for both ACS-64s and SC-44s.  Siemens claim that they have reduced problems on the ACS-64s.

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/mechanical/news/Siemens-new-locomotive-hub-to-use-Internet-of-Trains-technology--52380 n

 

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Sunday, December 10, 2017 6:23 PM

How many of the Siemens Charger SC-44's have been delivered for the midwest service and of those, how many are in regular service? And on which trains? Have they replaced the dual P42's used on the Michigan trains? Any problems so far? As I understand, seventeen would be required each day plus spares (service and failure) 

 2 Chicago-Milwaukee,

 2 Chicago-Carbondale

 2 Chicago-Quincy

 3 Chicago-Pontiac

 1 Chicago-Grand Rapids

 1 Chicago-Port Huron

 4 Chicago-St Louis

 2 St Louis-Kansas City 

17 Total

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:22 PM

My new math nephew said he counted 17 ?

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, December 10, 2017 9:26 PM

Electroliner 1935
2 Chicago-Milwaukee, 2 Chicago-Carbondale 2 Chicago-Quincy 3 Chicago-Pontiac 1 Chicago-Grand Rapids 1 Chicago-Port Huron 4 Chicago-St Louis 2 St Louis-Kansas City 11 Total

I did not realize that קְפִיצַת הַדֶּרֶךְ was now incorporated into PTC.

 

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Posted by D.Carleton on Monday, December 11, 2017 5:26 AM

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 11, 2017 11:19 AM

What is קְפִיצַת הַדֶּרֶךְ ? 

         

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:40 PM

BaltACD

What is קְפִיצַת הַדֶּרֶךְ ? 

 

Hebrew for "jumping" according to Google Translator.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:22 PM

charlie hebdo

 

 
BaltACD

What is קְפִיצַת הַדֶּרֶךְ ? 

 

 

 

Hebrew for "jumping" according to Google Translator.

 

I'll go along with that. Looking the phrase up in my Hebrew-English lexicon, I was somewhar puzzled because the first word (the one on the right) is a noun form--and my lexicon showed only the verb form, which means, basically, to fold, as one folds his body as he leaps. The second word (the one on the left) is Hebrew for "the way" or "the road." 

Dave Klepper, please correct me if I am wrong.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:42 PM

Jeez you guys are no fun!  The question was how you get 11 engines to do the work of 17.  The solution is by having some of them be two places at once.  Google where Frank Herbert got 'Kwisatz Haderach' for more.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:21 AM
Dune. I am surprised anyone would refer to that today with any expectation that terminology would be familiar. And the term used translates from Hebrew..
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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:22 PM

Ok. So my fat fingers made a typo and I got 11 instead of 17. The question was and is, How many are now in regular service? And how are they doing? Any issues? Can one make 110 mph in Michigan or do they still use a P42 with them? Does anyone know?

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Posted by VOLKER LANDWEHR on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:30 PM

Electroliner 1935
The question was and is, How many are now in regular service? And how are they doing? Any issues? Can one make 110 mph in Michigan or do they still use a P42 with them? Does anyone know?

From the Executives Board's December 5th, 2017 minutes (draft) page 3, §8: http://www.highspeed-rail.org/Documents/305%20Exec%20Brd%20minutes%20%20-%2012-5-17%20DRAFT.doc

WSDOT and Caltrans locomotives work in revenue service. All IDOT locomotives (4601 - 4633) have completed burn-in testing at TTCI: Seven are in lead position in revenue service.

Quote: f) The locomotives stored at TTCI will ship to Chicago, as soon as storage space becomes available. Storage space in Chicago is being freed-up with the re-deployment of P-42 locomotives by Amtrak, and now indicates room for 23 locomotives will be available soon. A shipping plan is in place.

And regarding 110 mph:
b) 110 mph hour testing in MI and the Chicago/St. Louis line will take place when all PTC logistics and software are up and in place. There may be a window of opportunity to do this testing this month, or in December, when the UP turns off cab signal in that territory.

Nothing specific about any failures. Quote:
 k) The Failure Review Board is established, with all JPE's included and Siemens. Amtrak representatives are participating in the meetings.
l) Recurring bi-weekly warranty meetings with the JPEs are being held by Siemens.

Regards, Volker

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 8:07 PM

charlie hebdo
Dune. I am surprised anyone would refer to that today with any expectation that terminology would be familiar. And the term used translates from Hebrew...

Whooooooosh, Charlie.

Of course Herbert didn't get the term 'from' Dune; he wrote Dune.  He derived his name for the Shortening of the Way from a trope in Jewish mythology that goes by the Hebrew term that y'all are trying to translate literally.  Google 'kefitzat haderech' for the Wiki Romanization.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Thursday, December 14, 2017 2:32 PM

Thank You Volker. That is informative. I am a little disappointed with the progress that Illinois has made on its Chicago-St Louis implementation. At least it seems that some progress is being made. But there doesn’t look like there is any urgency to complete the project. The short stretch of 110 mph running has been in operation for over a year and there hasn't been any progress toward more mileage being added to the route. Though the track has been upgraded and UP has added more freight to it. They have even reduced the speed back to 79 mph on the test section. I am glad that Siemens has delivered the locomotives as ordered and that they so far seem to be as ordered. Whether they will be as good as the P42’s have been remains to be seen but the Siemens Electric’s are doing well on the corrider which bodes well for the Chargers. Now if only the passenger car contract had been as well delivered, we might have a better acceptance of High Speed Rail. The silence on why they couldn't meet the specifications is deafening.

 Bob

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