Brightline postpones Orlando extension opening until 2020

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:52 PM

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network...

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Posted by GERALD L MCFARLANE JR on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:45 PM

oltmannd

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network... 

Except for one little problem...FEC operates intirely within the state of Florida, though it may be connected to the national network FEC itself is not.

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Posted by Buslist on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 7:26 PM

GERALD L MCFARLANE JR

 

 
oltmannd

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network... 

 

 

Except for one little problem...FEC operates intirely within the state of Florida, though it may be connected to the national network FEC itself is not.

 

Boy I bet all those other single state passenger operations, like CalTrain, will be glad to hear that!

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Posted by A McIntosh on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 7:58 PM

Buslist

 

 
GERALD L MCFARLANE JR

 

 
oltmannd

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network... 

 

 

Except for one little problem...FEC operates intirely within the state of Florida, though it may be connected to the national network FEC itself is not.

 

 

 

Boy I bet all those other single state passenger operations, like CalTrain, will be glad to hear that!

 

On Youtube, Gene Skorowpowski was giving a presentation in which he mentioned, if I recall, that FEC has its own PTC system, which is why he said that all freights operating on FEC either have an all FEC locomotive consist, or an FEC unit in the lead

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Posted by Buslist on Thursday, August 10, 2017 12:30 AM

oltmannd

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network...

 

Guess we just need to look a little harder. Interesting that they are not going with the WABTEC, system but with GE's system ala Michigan.

 

http://m.railwayage.com/index.php/ptc/all-aboard-florida-selects-ge-for-signaling-ptc.html

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Posted by Buslist on Thursday, August 10, 2017 12:34 AM

A McIntosh

 

 
Buslist

 

 
GERALD L MCFARLANE JR

 

 
oltmannd

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network... 

 

 

Except for one little problem...FEC operates intirely within the state of Florida, though it may be connected to the national network FEC itself is not.

 

 

 

Boy I bet all those other single state passenger operations, like CalTrain, will be glad to hear that!

 

 

 

On Youtube, Gene Skorowpowski was giving a presentation in which he mentioned, if I recall, that FEC has its own PTC system, which is why he said that all freights operating on FEC either have an all FEC locomotive consist, or an FEC unit in the lead

 

 

That lead locomotive requirement is for the cab signal system, much as it is on the UP's line across Illinois. Unless its been greatly enhanced somehow it does not not meet the legislated fictional requirements of PTC.

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:01 AM

Buslist

 

 
A McIntosh

 

 
Buslist

 

 
GERALD L MCFARLANE JR

 

 
oltmannd

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network... 

 

 

Except for one little problem...FEC operates intirely within the state of Florida, though it may be connected to the national network FEC itself is not.

 

 

 

Boy I bet all those other single state passenger operations, like CalTrain, will be glad to hear that!

 

 

 

On Youtube, Gene Skorowpowski was giving a presentation in which he mentioned, if I recall, that FEC has its own PTC system, which is why he said that all freights operating on FEC either have an all FEC locomotive consist, or an FEC unit in the lead

 

 

 

 

That lead locomotive requirement is for the cab signal system, much as it is on the UP's line across Illinois. Unless its been greatly enhanced somehow it does not not meet the legislated fictional requirements of PTC.

 

I understand that the UP's cab signal system runs alway the way from Chicago to Ogden. Jeff, please correct me if I am wrong.

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Posted by Buslist on Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:36 AM

Deggesty

 

 
Buslist

 

 
A McIntosh

 

 
Buslist

 

 
GERALD L MCFARLANE JR

 

 
oltmannd

You would think that Brightline would need PTC to legally operate.  Passenger train on national network... 

 

 

Except for one little problem...FEC operates intirely within the state of Florida, though it may be connected to the national network FEC itself is not.

 

 

 

Boy I bet all those other single state passenger operations, like CalTrain, will be glad to hear that!

 

 

 

On Youtube, Gene Skorowpowski was giving a presentation in which he mentioned, if I recall, that FEC has its own PTC system, which is why he said that all freights operating on FEC either have an all FEC locomotive consist, or an FEC unit in the lead

 

 

 

 

That lead locomotive requirement is for the cab signal system, much as it is on the UP's line across Illinois. Unless its been greatly enhanced somehow it does not not meet the legislated fictional requirements of PTC.

 

 

 

I understand that the UP's cab signal system runs alway the way from Chicago to Ogden. Jeff, please correct me if I am wrong.

 

 

somewhere I thought UPs and C&NWs, although both US&S. based were slightly different somehow, but the memory gets faulty once in a while. IIRC North Western's system is 2 aspect without wayside intermediate signals (hence the requirement for an equipped locomotive leading) but still with distant and home signals. UP's is multiaspect with wayside signals. But PTC overlay still required In either case.

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