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East bound Sunset maintenance schedule change ? Some westbound

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Posted by CJtrainguy on Monday, December 28, 2015 11:54 AM

Several years ago when the Sunset schedule was changed, there was an agreement that Amtrak wouldn't pursue making it a daily train for 2 years. Those 2 years are up. I'd love to see new talks between UP and Amtrak towards that goal. I really think track space is a bigger issue than lack of a few cars to build additional trains at this point.

Still, if you look at it as "the glass is half full" instead of "half empty", it's better to have service on a line 3 days a week than not at all.

Looking at fare availability a few months out suggests that there are plenty of people who want to ride even at 3x a week. Daily should bring more people.

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Posted by Dakguy201 on Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:57 PM

I don't have the data, but I suspect there aren't enough surplus Superliners anywhere in the system to make the Sunset a daily train.  As I recall, at one time there was a proposal to combine the Sunset and the Eagle on a daily basis and put a new single level train on the eastern portion of the Sunset route.  Assuming you could do some interior cleaning on the Eagle at San Antonio, that made sense to me.  

UP threw out some number with a whole lot of zeros as their price to permit daily operation of the Sunset -- I think they were looking to double track clear to Hawaii, but presumably there was negotiating room in that.

The new train would have a 573 mile run, which if I understand the rules correctly, means it could be done without state support.  However, I think any changes not on the NE corridor are going to have to be post-Boardman.     

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Posted by schlimm on Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:43 PM

No way to run a railroad.  A train 'service' only three days per week is not transportation. It's just a land cruise for various people who don't care about time and like riding a train.

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Posted by dakotafred on Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:17 PM

CJtrainguy

Where this really bites is that the Sunset/Eagle only runs 3x week, so it's not like I just catch the train a day later.

 
Yes. If a route really can't support a single pair of daily trains, Amtrak ought to ditch it. But I don't believe LA-New Orleans can't support a daily train. The Empire Builder didn't come into its own as one of Amtrak's best until A. gave up that triweekly nonsense.
 
Less than daily requires most travelers to organize an entire trip around its weakest link, which is a poor business indeed.
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Posted by CJtrainguy on Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:54 PM

Amtrak sent me the message a couple days ago. I'm scheduled to leave LA in late February on the Texas Eagle, but with it leaving earlier now, I have to look at other options for getting home. The original timing provided just the right amount of time to get from my conference to the train station. 

Where this really bites is that the Sunset/Eagle only runs 3x week, so it's not like I just catch the train a day later.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:23 PM

West bound Sunset leaves NOL Jan 13  - Feb 24 leaving at 1030.  Arrives only 36 minutes late SAS and leaves SAS on time.- 

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East bound Sunset maintenance schedule change ? Some westbound
Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:03 PM

From Jan 8 2016 - March13, 2016 the Sunset / Eagle is leaving LAX at 4 PM  (1600) and arriving New Orleans at 1600 (4PM).  Departures of connecting Eagles still leaving at 0700 at San Antionia (SAS).  That is going to be a long layover for those passengers.  2200 - 0700.

There goes any connection from Startlight southbound to Sunset.

This may  mean day time track work either Maricopa - El Paso  and / or SAS - Beaumont.  Any one have some more information ?

KP  maybe you can get some pictures of Eastbound Sunset going over Colton ?

 

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