Gateway tunnels now expedited + East river tunnels + Other Gateway projects

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:38 PM

Here is an article that makes a summary of plans.  One important item is advocates for the tunnel are worried if New Jersey is the lead.  Too much has happened after NJ cancelled the ARC bores that in hindsight was a badly conceived plan.

 

http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/16/11/08/explainer-why-hudson-river-tunnels-are-so-badly-needed-and-so-long-delayed/

 

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, December 03, 2016 11:11 AM

Crain’s article ('far from done deal') says NJ and NYS probably can’t put money up soon.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22Gateway+tunnel+project+is+still+far+from+a+done+deal%22

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Posted by Gramp on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:07 AM

Has anyone seen the documentary about the construction of the original tunnels plus Penn Station on public TV (The American Experience)?  I just saw it about a week ago on our TV station.  What a magnificent undertaking!  And all designed and paid for by THE PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD, a private sector corporation.

http://wptschedule.org/episodes/44907416/The-Rise-and-Fall-of-Penn-Station-American-Experience/

 

 

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Posted by Gramp on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:32 AM

I really wonder how many Americans today realize the extent that government has usurped the "free market" economy over the last 100 years.

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Posted by aegrotatio on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:22 PM

The tunnels were paid by the corporation, but the electrification projects in the 1930s were financed with low-interest loans from the US government.

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:32 PM

aegrotatio

The tunnels were paid by the corporation, but the electrification projects in the 1930s were financed with low-interest loans from the US government.

 

 

Yes, and the loans were repaid.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:54 PM

With interest. Great investment from the Gov. Served the country well during the war.

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Posted by aegrotatio on Friday, December 16, 2016 11:03 AM

Yep, same with Conrail.  Lots of people still say it was a government bailout, and it was, but the bankers who financed the bailout were private corporations (with the loans guaranteed by the government).

 

They were paid back many times over with interest.  Sometimes government takeovers work.

 

But, then, we have the tragedy of abandoning many important Erie-Lackawanna, Reading, Centrail Railroad of New Jersey, and Lehigh Valley routes.

 

 

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, December 16, 2016 6:13 PM

Can we believe it ? The PA may kick in $2B+ for the Gateway project.  This article seems to not denote which of the Gateway projects will be the receipent ?

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/freight-on-key-lines-to-stop-if-33c-reached?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=top-stories-this-week-on-railpage

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Posted by PNWRMNM on Friday, December 16, 2016 6:48 PM

Streak,

The link you posted has to do with heat restrictions in Australia.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, December 16, 2016 6:51 PM
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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:15 PM

Article about present tunnels say it will take minimum of 18 months each to repair each old tunnel once the two new bores are in operation.  A disappointment is statement that the EIS for new bores will not be finished until 2018.  IMO  -- time to speed up everything.  This poster's title of this thread is misleading. 

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/12/commuter_rail_tunnels_will_take_longer_to_rehabili.html#incart_river_index

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:02 PM

blue streak 1
Article about present tunnels say it will take minimum of 18 months each to repair each old tunnel once the two new bores are in operation.  A disappointment is statement that the EIS for new bores will not be finished until 2018.  IMO  -- time to speed up everything.  This poster's title of this thread is misleading. 

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/12/commuter_rail_tunnels_will_take_longer_to_rehabili.html#incart_river_index

2018 is sooner than 2028.  Permitting grinds slowly.

         

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:44 PM

Is it possible that this executive order will speed up  the Gateway tunnel and Portal bridge projects or is it just for future projects ?

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/federal_legislation_regulation/news/Trump-signs-order-to-shorten-project-permitting-process--52452

 

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Posted by schlimm on Saturday, August 19, 2017 4:52 PM

blue streak 1

Is it possible that this executive order will speed up  the Gateway tunnel and Portal bridge projects or is it just for future projects ?

http://www.progressiverailroading.com/federal_legislation_regulation/news/Trump-signs-order-to-shorten-project-permitting-process--52452

 

 

Funding! Funding! Funding!

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, December 03, 2017 7:33 PM

Some push back is occurring over the PATH extension to EWR airport indicating that PATH may take away froom the Gateway tunnel bores.

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/12/the_path_extension_is_not_a_priority_gateway_is_a.html

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, December 03, 2017 9:37 PM

blue streak 1
Some push back is occurring over the PATH extension to EWR airport indicating that PATH may take away froom the Gateway tunnel bores.

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/12/the_path_extension_is_not_a_priority_gateway_is_a.html

Priorities!  Priorities!  Priorities!

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