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Some Amtrak fleet plans revealed

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Some Amtrak fleet plans revealed
Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, March 10, 2012 10:29 AM

While recovering here in the hospital came across Amtrak's   ==  FY 2012 - 2016 5 year financial plan. Here are a few of the high lights.  I am haviing to change some items that I though were in place.  Almost all figures are on a very conservative schedule.

1. Electric locos.-- As is well known availability is 76.2%  vs diesels of 86%.  No delivery schedule was listed so  listed was 41 / day needed  with no change. However text says that most AEM-7 DCs will be converted to a cab car baggage car. ( maybe finally baggage service again on NEC  ?  ).  HHP-8 & AEM-7 ACs  were not listed on disposal  so some speculation may be in order.

A. -- Park at specific points so in case of failure of a revenue train it can be rescued faster.

B. --  Sale of some to MARC< SEPTA, NJ, MN, MBTA.  ( Normally any government equipment disposals required to be offered to other governments.  )

C.  --  a mention of looking for expansion of electric propulsion a possibility as well.

2.    Acelas were tested and found to return 8% electricity thru regeneration.  Regeneration is still not used  for all NEC segments due to needed eectrical upgrades

3.  --  Passenger cars 1538 end FY2011 1553 end of FY 2012. No explanation of where 15 will come from except possible rebuilding of wrecked off books cars  ??

4.  --  Planned renewal rate  new / retired planned at 105 cars and 26 locos

5.  --  Fixed cost Early buy outs  of leased equipment important because at end of lease purchase cost subject to arbitration so if loads are heavy the price would go up.

6.  --  NYP projected to reach ultimate capacity as early as 2020. Looks like time may have already run out?

7.  --  Conservative ridership growth FY 11  30.2  2016  33.5

8.  --  Rolling stock numbers given separate statement if cars not available will return to a chronic shortage of cars on the NEC.  What Henry6 and others have posted.

Will continue later

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:38 PM

9.  ---  projected fleet inventory  end FY 2011  to end  FY2016

FY year end        2011   12     13    14    15     16 

Amfleet 1.           458;  473;  473;  473;  473;  473 

Amfleet  2           145  --------------------------------  145

Horizon                95     95     93     93     93    93

Surfliners              49  ---------------------------------   49 

California cars       78  ---------------------------------   78

NCarolina cars      12    12     11     11     11     11

Viewliners             51;   51;    76;   181;  181;  181

Heritage

baggage                73    73;    73     60;    60;    25

Dinners                 20;   20;    12;      8;      0      0

Dome Parlor            6  -----------------------------------  6

Superliners          428  --------------------------------  428

Auto carriers          80  --------------------------------   80

Cab cars               39  --------------------------------   39

Company cars         4  ---------------------------------    4

Electric                  62    62    62     64    64      64

Diesel                   309  ------------------------------   309

switchers                39  ------------------------------    39

Acela sets              20  ----------------------------      20

Acela cars            120  121  121   121    161   161

Talgo  cars             60 -------------------------------     60

Train sets             227   227   227   227   267   267

Fleet avaiability      83%    81     85    85     85     85%

Note  :    Financial 5 year plan only acknowledges deliveries of new viewlineers and Acela cars.  Wonder if delivery schedules of electric motors and bi-levels is techinicallly not complete  ??  No provision yet for new Talgos.

Note the increase of number of train sets at end of FY 2015.

Dome Parlors  wonder where they might be used  ????     

Note: viewliiner baggage & baggage dorm appears near end of production run of 130 Viewliners

And what about nyp ????

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:52 PM

Corrected see original post  

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:55 PM

correction  see original post

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:02 AM

One additional item in report will interest our posters who have been pushing for more service:

Approximately $0.6 - $0.9 M  has been allocated for service upgrades to:

A.  food service improved on ----------------------City of New Orleans

B.  On board service improvement -----------  Lake Shore

C.  route improvement report items ----------  Crescent

D.  route improvement & China service ----- Capitol limited

E.  Close Jacksonville OBS crew base

     

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