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<p>[quote user="243129"]</p> <p> </p> <div class="quote-header"> </div> <blockquote class="quote"> <div class="quote-user">VOLKER LANDWEHR</div> <div class="quote-content"> <p> </p> <div class="quote-header"> </div> <blockquote class="quote"> <div class="quote-user">243129</div> <div class="quote-content">The article certainly does support my theory.</div> </blockquote> <div class="quote-footer"> </div> <p> </p> <p></p> <div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:'Arial','sans-serif';">I don’t know how often I read the article. <span style="font-size:18pt;"><strong>The sentence that in your opinion supports your statement that Europe and Japan rebuilt their trackwork as straight as possible after WW2 is this one: </strong></span></span><br /><span style="font-size:18pt;"><strong><em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:'Arial','sans-serif';">But here in Europe, the legacy of the Marshall Plan is visible for all to see: in high-tech railways and highways, in prosperous, modern cities, in products from perfume to fighter jets.</span></em></strong></span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:'Arial','sans-serif';"><span style="font-size:12pt;">As I said before the article describes the situation i</span><strong><span style="font-size:12pt;">n </span></strong>the 1990<span style="font-size:18pt;"><strong><span style="font-size:12pt;">. </span></strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt;">It doesn’t support your statement</span><strong>.</strong> </span></span>There were no modern, prosperous cities in the 1950s and jet fighters even less. The first German built aircrafts were allowed in 1956. Jet fighters were commissioned in Europe except the UK beginning in the mid to late 1950s, in Germany in the 1960s.</span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:'Arial','sans-serif';">Quote 243129: </span><em><span lang="EN-US">You and others seem to focus on Germany exclusively. </span><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';">Europe</span></span></strong><span style="font-size:12pt;">and</span> Japan were bombed in to rubble.</em></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">My concentration on Germany is for a reason as you know. On the other hand Germany stands as an example for what happened in other European countries after WW2. </span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">For Japan your statement is unlikely too. Why rebuild the cape gauge network with higher speeds in mind when you know that you need standard gauge for high speed? And they knew it because they started a standard gauge line between Tokyo and Osaka for higher speeds in September 1940.</span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">Why is it so difficult to admit that one’s information were perhaps not correct? I linked a wrongly labeled Acela cab. Things like that happen.</span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">For people interested how railroading in Germany in the late 1940s looked like here a few links. I hope they work. I can't edit them.<br /></span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">Excerpt from a three part documentary about German railroads from 1945 to 2011 on the occasion of 175 years German railways:</span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">I translated the narration from 0:42 – 1:11</span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">2,700 miles of track were destroyed. Destroyed were also 3,149 railway bridges and 75 tunnels. The railway, the only available mass transportation system in Germany, needed to function immediately. Without it there would be no reconstruction of Germany.</span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US">The big chance to simultaneously rebuild and modernize the more than 100 year old network had to wait. Emergency operations were given priority.</span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMHGsZckkaU"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMHGsZckkaU</span></a></span></span></div> <div> </div> <div><span lang="EN-US">And some pictures. They show people mostly on forage trips to the country side to trade their valuables for food. </span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oPS-K10txKQ/S9av6ezZ_DI/AAAAAAAACBo/5IsqebytkUA/s1600/1945-die+ersten+Z%25C3%25BCge-.jpg"><span lang="EN-US">http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oPS-K10txKQ/S9av6ezZ_DI/AAAAAAAACBo/5IsqebytkUA/s1600/1945-die+ersten+Z%25C3%25BCge-.jpg</span></a></span></span></div> <p> </p> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/d3/bc/e1d3bc0d6213cc9493c4a9d10c93d96d.jpg"><span lang="EN-US">https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/d3/bc/e1d3bc0d6213cc9493c4a9d10c93d96d.jpg</span></a></span></span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-N0304-310%2C_Berlin%2C_Reiseverkehr_nach_dem_Krieg.jpg"><span lang="EN-US">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-N0304-310%2C_Berlin%2C_Reiseverkehr_nach_dem_Krieg.jpg</span></a></span></span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-N0304-308%2C_Berlin%2C_Reiseverkehr_in_der_ersten_Nachkriegszeit.jpg"><span lang="EN-US">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-N0304-308%2C_Berlin%2C_Reiseverkehr_in_der_ersten_Nachkriegszeit.jpg</span></a></span></span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://www.hamburg.de/image/4407282/portrait/383/518/c3e7fc25353fd6c0a99d457e5f1be3aa/qa/02-hamsterfahrt-1947.jpg"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.hamburg.de/image/4407282/portrait/383/518/c3e7fc25353fd6c0a99d457e5f1be3aa/qa/02-hamsterfahrt-1947.jpg</span></a></span></span></span></span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.technikmuseum-online.de/homepage_dateien/beitrag_22_dateien/hamsterzug.jpg"><span lang="EN-US">http://www.technikmuseum-online.de/homepage_dateien/beitrag_22_dateien/hamsterzug.jpg</span></a></span></span></span></span></span></span></div> <div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US">Regards, Volker</span></span></span></div> <div style="clear:both;"> </div> <p> </p> </div> </blockquote> <div class="quote-footer"> </div> <p> </p> <p>Read it.</p> <div style="clear:both;"> </div> <p>[/quote]</p> <p> </p> <p>?????????????????????????????????</p>
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