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[quote user="Euclid"]Maybe the improving safety record has suddenly taken a "U"-turn as the retirement of older engineers reaches critical mass in ushering in a new style of safety culture and safety training. And therefore, maybe the improving safety record is behind the curve in stating the actual safety status at Amtrak. Maybe we have just begun the downward spiral of degrading safety as the product of the new, modern, safety culture.[/quote] It has nothing to do with your description. It is as often connected with the statistic. The statistic counts the numbers of the accidents independent of the consequences. And that is correct as it is intended to control the evolution for single causes not their results.A human error can have small or heavy consequences. You need to eliminate the errors and the consequences disappear too. Take Amtrak 501. Had the engineer realized his mistake 10 seconds earlier he might haven gotten away with it, but it would still have been the same human error. Regards, Volker
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